hasn't, of course.
- Original Message
From: Scott Barnes scott.bar...@gmail.com
To: ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com
Sent: Thu, 11 November, 2010 6:28:05
Subject: Re: [OT] Usefulness of Microsoft Certifications
My take is this.
Microsoft has a very turbulent / chaotic nature in the past
than someone who hasn't, of course.
- Original Message
From: Scott Barnes scott.bar...@gmail.com
To: ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com
Sent: Thu, 11 November, 2010 6:28:05
Subject: Re: [OT] Usefulness of Microsoft Certifications
My take is this.
Microsoft has a very turbulent / chaotic
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On Behalf Of Jamie Surman
Sent: Thursday, 11 November 2010 9:21 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] Usefulness of Microsoft Certifications
I must say, out of the people I have worked with who have passed the exams
and
the people I have worked with who haven't bothered
F
Sent: Friday, 12 November 2010 11:50 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] Usefulness of Microsoft Certifications
What about for someone with not much experience?
For me personally I have quite a few years experience in development with
other langauges. However I have only used .net in a few
...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of David Walker
Sent: Thursday, 11 November 2010 2:52 PM
To: ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com
Subject: [OT] Usefulness of Microsoft Certifications
Hi everyone,
the developers at our work are just looking at doing our MCPD for .net 4 and
were wondering if anyone has any input
I can't remember a recruiter or potential employer ever asking me if I had
any MC* qualifications (I don't). I don't think it has held me back.
As a learning exercise I prefer to build real applications in my spare time
and think I learn more that way. For example I have been using the new Razor
In order for some companies to be Microsoft certified, they need a certain
number of certified employees. So those employers will look at your more
favourably if you're looking for work.
I've found from personal experience in real terms as an experienced
developer it doesn't really do anything
On 11 November 2010 13:51, David Walker david.wal...@planbonline.comwrote:
the developers at our work are just looking at doing our MCPD for .net 4
and were wondering if anyone has any input or insight on the usefulness of
these certifications?
In my view, they are completely worthless.
Yeah fair enough. We all have CS degrees now - is it worth extending these to a
Software Engineering degree/masters degree? Does any education provider offer
something like this? My CS course spent alot of time dealing with topics which
honestly I have never used, and will never use - PRNG's,
On 11 November 2010 14:26, David Walker david.wal...@planbonline.comwrote:
Yeah fair enough. We all have CS degrees now - is it worth extending these
to a Software Engineering degree/masters degree?
I think it depends on the institution and course. When I was at uni I did a
bachelor of
I know one IT manager who actually likes employing programmers with degrees
outside of CS. People with vastly different backgrounds tend to think about
problems differently. I remember reading Boeing does the same when they
develop their flight-systems, which are not only are quadruple-backed up,
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From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com on behalf of Nathan Schultz
Sent: Thu 11/11/2010 13:03
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] Usefulness of Microsoft Certifications
I know one IT manager who actually likes employing programmers with degrees
outside of CS. People with vastly different
are generally poor teachers who are
forced to give lectures as part of their tenure...
-Original Message-
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com on behalf of Nathan Schultz
Sent: Thu 11/11/2010 13:03
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] Usefulness of Microsoft Certifications
I know one IT manager who
on behalf of Nathan Schultz
Sent: Thu 11/11/2010 13:03
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] Usefulness of Microsoft Certifications
I know one IT manager who actually likes employing programmers with
degrees
outside of CS. People with vastly different backgrounds tend to think
about
problems
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] Usefulness of Microsoft Certifications
I know one IT manager who actually likes employing programmers with
degrees
outside of CS. People with vastly different backgrounds tend to think
about
problems differently. I remember reading Boeing does the same when
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