RE: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro?

2013-04-01 Thread Ken Schaefer
Do you have any requirements or wants from the device that you're buying? Cheers Ken From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of James Chapman-Smith Sent: Tuesday, 2 April 2013 10:50 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro? Hi Folks,

RE: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro?

2013-04-01 Thread Nathan Chere
Pointless question without saying what you want to do with it. For my money there's no reason to get a Surface RT at all and very few reasons for a Surface Pro. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of James Chapman-Smith Sent: Tuesday, 2 April 201

Re: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro?

2013-04-01 Thread jasion4
Hi I got an RT when they came out, been mostly happy with it, good battery life. I got it mainly so I had an RT device to test my apps on + to use as a consumer device and for those uses I can’t complain. I also have touch cover, if your gonna do lots of typing then you might want to conside

RE: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro?

2013-04-01 Thread James Chapman-Smith
m] On Behalf Of Ken Schaefer Sent: Tuesday, 2 April 2013 10:26 To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro? Do you have any requirements or wants from the device that you're buying? Cheers Ken From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> [mail

Re: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro?

2013-04-01 Thread Tony Wright
te facebook, > etc. I'll also use the Surface as a note taking device at > seminars/conferences. > > ** ** > > *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: > ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Schaefer > *Sent:* Tuesday, 2 April 2013 10:26 > *T

Re: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro?

2013-04-01 Thread Tony Wright
-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: > ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Schaefer > *Sent:* Tuesday, 2 April 2013 10:26 > *To:* ozDotNet > *Subject:* RE: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro? > > ** ** > > Do you have any requirements or wants from the device that you

Re: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro?

2013-04-01 Thread Stephen Price
What ever you get will have shortfalls. It will also be out of date within a year. (or less). That said, as others have indicated, you need to identify (if not to us, then to yourself) what you need it for. No device does it all, so you need to choose based on your personal requirements. Battery li

RE: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro?

2013-04-01 Thread Williams, Thomas
Wow Tony - great quote! Thomas From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Tony Wright Sent: Tuesday, 2 April 2013 12:04 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro? actually that said, you pay for what you get. The WinRT device is

Re: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro?

2013-04-07 Thread Scott Barnes
> ** ** > > Thomas > > ** ** > > *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: > ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Tony Wright > *Sent:* Tuesday, 2 April 2013 12:04 PM > *To:* ozDotNet > *Subject:* Re: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro? > > ** *

Re: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro?

2013-04-07 Thread Arjang Assadi
RT totally rocks, since I got it haven't put it down, it is just pure awesome. It is light, app switching and screen splitting are so easy. Since I got one I cant remember a day I didn't have it in my hand, most of times without the cover. I would like a Pro for alternative set of reasons, but RT

RE: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro?

2013-04-08 Thread Katherine Moss
f Arjang Assadi Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 2:14 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro? RT totally rocks, since I got it haven't put it down, it is just pure awesome. It is light, app switching and screen splitting are so easy. Since I got one I cant remember a day I

Re: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro?

2013-04-08 Thread Stephen Price
gt; *Sent:* Monday, April 08, 2013 2:14 AM > > *To:* ozDotNet > *Subject:* Re: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro? > > ** ** > > RT totally rocks, since I got it haven't put it down, it is just pure > awesome. > > It is light, app switching and screen splitting

Re: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro?

2013-04-08 Thread Scott Barnes
ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Arjang Assadi > *Sent:* Monday, April 08, 2013 2:14 AM > > *To:* ozDotNet > *Subject:* Re: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro? > > ** ** > > RT totally rocks, since I got it haven't put it down, it is just pure > awesome.*

RE: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro?

2013-04-09 Thread Katherine Moss
iving in some form. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Scott Barnes Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 11:27 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro? Its legacy simply because no investment will be put into it. Windows XP is lega

Re: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro?

2013-04-10 Thread Bec Carter
et-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Scott Barnes > *Sent:* Monday, April 08, 2013 11:27 PM > > *To:* ozDotNet > *Subject:* Re: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro? > > ** ** > > Its legacy simply because no investment will be put into it. Windows XP is > legacy

Re: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro?

2013-04-10 Thread Arjang Assadi
gt;> >> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: >> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Scott Barnes >> *Sent:* Monday, April 08, 2013 11:27 PM >> >> *To:* ozDotNet >> *Subject:* Re: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro? >> >>

RE: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro?

2013-04-10 Thread Katherine Moss
ework sounds more like a kill-off rather than an enhancement. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Arjang Assadi Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 6:12 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro? Not taken over but augmented with,

Re: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro?

2013-04-11 Thread Tom Rutter
et-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Arjang Assadi > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 10, 2013 6:12 AM > > *To:* ozDotNet > *Subject:* Re: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro? > > ** ** > > Not taken over but augmented with, .net still reigns supreme, js and html > allow

Re: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro?

2013-04-11 Thread Corneliu I. Tusnea
>> framework sounds more like a kill-off rather than an enhancement. >> >> ** ** >> >> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: >> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Arjang Assadi >> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 10, 2013 6:12 AM >>

RE: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro?

2013-04-11 Thread Greg Low (GregLow.com)
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Re: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro?

2013-04-11 Thread Stephen Price
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RE: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro?

2013-04-12 Thread Katherine Moss
-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Price Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 1:44 AM To: Greg Low; ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro? The way the Web won. (insert whistling cowboy music) On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 1:21 PM, Greg Low (GregLow.com) mailto:g...@greglow.com>> wr

Re: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro?

2013-04-16 Thread Scott Barnes
MVC4 project, and while I like it and can see the appeal of it, I > can’t help but thinking I could have created the same business > functionality in a winforms app in less than a day. At least it runs all > over the place (sort of). > > > > Regards,**** > > **

Re: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro?

2013-04-16 Thread mike smith
ones,but not to those users of > computers, please. > > ** ** > > *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: > ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Scott Barnes > *Sent:* Tuesday, April 16, 2013 9:16 AM > > *To:* ozDotNet > *Subject:* Re: [OT] Surface

RE: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro?

2013-04-17 Thread David Kean
That is not true. JavaScript/HTML is nowhere close to .NET in the store. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Katherine Moss Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 10:47 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro? Then why are the

Re: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro?

2013-04-17 Thread jasion4
true. JavaScript/HTML is nowhere close to .NET in the store. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Katherine Moss Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 10:47 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro? Then why are the

Re: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro?

2013-04-17 Thread Scott Barnes
the store. > > > > *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: > ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Katherine Moss > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 10, 2013 10:47 AM > *To:* ozDotNet > *Subject:* RE: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro? > > > > Then why are

RE: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro?

2013-04-17 Thread Fredericks, Chris
-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of jasi...@yahoo.co.uk Sent: Wednesday, 17 April 2013 5:39 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro? Yeah, I’ve also heard on various podcasts that while there are a good deal of HTML/JS apps in the store they are not the majority. I chose XAML/C

RE: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro?

2013-04-17 Thread Katherine Moss
testing were part of the criteria for certification? From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Fredericks, Chris Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 4:36 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro? I am a recent convert to Xamarin products

Re: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro?

2013-04-17 Thread Scott Barnes
*Fredericks, Chris > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 17, 2013 4:36 AM > > *To:* ozDotNet > *Subject:* RE: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro? > > ** ** > > I am a recent convert to Xamarin products to do cross-platform development > all in C# for iOS, Android and Windows – all fr

RE: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro?

2013-04-17 Thread Katherine Moss
application, and you’ll realize that I’m not kidding you guys. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Scott Barnes Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 4:28 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro? REALLY?.. Had not known that... I mean

Re: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro?

2013-04-17 Thread mike smith
gt;> >> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: >> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Fredericks, Chris >> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 17, 2013 4:36 AM >> >> *To:* ozDotNet >> *Subject:* RE: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro? >> >>

RE: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro?

2013-04-17 Thread Ken Schaefer
-point protection client is probably the least of the issues. Cheers Ken From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Scott Barnes Sent: Wednesday, 17 April 2013 6:05 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro? The reality is most

RE: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro?

2013-04-18 Thread Katherine Moss
DotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro? The reality is most Enterprises that have moved to Windows 7 aren't likely to rush out again on Windows 8, they'll probably want the dust to settle and lot of time the stalling point for migration between Operating Systems isn't j

RE: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro?

2013-04-18 Thread Jason Roberts
Nope, but my latest Windows Store app "app idea evaluator" was just released. I am interested to see what I'd need to do to make it accessible, it also features some charting which may prove a challenge. I'm then gonna write up on my blog my experience as accessibility is an area I've not seen m

Re: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro?

2013-04-18 Thread Scott Barnes
o that you know I’m not kidding you? > > ** ** > > *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: > ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Schaefer > *Sent:* Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:49 AM > *To:* ozDotNet > *Subject:* RE: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro

RE: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro?

2013-04-18 Thread Katherine Moss
: ozDotNet Subject: RE: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro? Nope, but my latest Windows Store app "app idea evaluator" was just released. I am interested to see what I'd need to do to make it accessible, it also features some charting which may prove a challenge. I'm then gonna wri

RE: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro?

2013-04-18 Thread Katherine Moss
Yes, it's anything written in Windows 8 modern. Look at it for yourself; you'll understand. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Scott Barnes Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 6:28 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Surface RT or Surfac

RE: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro?

2013-04-18 Thread Jason Roberts
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Re: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro?

2013-04-18 Thread Scott Barnes
ott Barnes > *Sent:* Thursday, April 18, 2013 6:28 PM > > *To:* ozDotNet > *Subject:* Re: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro? > > ** ** > > Is it just the Apps in Metro store are you talking about the store itself > and the OS? > > > > > --- > Regards,

Re: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro?

2013-04-18 Thread Scott Barnes
ready planning the next one. The > end-point protection client is probably the least of the issues. > > ** ** > > Cheers > > Ken > > ** ** > > *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: > ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Scott Barne

RE: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro?

2013-04-18 Thread Jason Roberts
Good point Scott

Re: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro?

2013-04-18 Thread Scott Barnes
gt; > ** ** > > Cheers > > Ken > > ** ** > > *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: > ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Scott Barnes > *Sent:* Friday, 19 April 2013 11:46 AM > > *To:* ozDotNet > *Subject:* Re: [OT] Surface RT or Sur

RE: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro?

2013-04-18 Thread Ken Schaefer
tion and management becomes less of an issue. Cheers Ken From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Scott Barnes Sent: Friday, 19 April 2013 2:45 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro? I would have thought by now virus / securit