Two questions.
Have a mum who is formula feeding a 2.5week old and has found that bubs poos
have turned hard but not terribly dry. Is this just normal or is it possible
a different formula would be better. Also what is the research on things
like adding Brown sugar and giving fruit juice? It
Ok I need some more info I guess. I have had some midwives locally say that
this is a better option to have at home for an emergency. This is my own
birth I am talking about I am not a midwife, I am a doula and will be
birthing unassisted due to the non-existence of MIPP up here, I am wanting
I work at a major tertiary hospital-we stock misoprostil and use it with
pph's so I think it is licenced.
Meg
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Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 4:48 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] getting synto
We have it in our cupboard and regularly use it for pph (used pr) and it
works well for this, I imagine this it what you would be having it on hand
for Philippa? Because it's a tablet it doesn't need refrigeration. Most of
our Tops are now done with it too. It is dispensed by our
Cath Mary,
I purchased the hanging baby scales and sling from
a company called "in his hands". they are based in Texas but they only
took about 3-4 days to arrive. The scales are digital and about the size
of a cigarette packet and weigh in both grams and kilos upto 30kg. They
scales cost
We have it in our cupboard and regularly use it for pph (used pr) and it
works well for this, I imagine this it what you would be having it on hand
for Philippa? Because it's a tablet it doesn't need refrigeration. Most of
our Tops are now done with it too. It is dispensed by our
From what I've heard, it is a drug not licensed for use in
obstetrics (but it is used, obviously) ... I can't remember it's
primary function though. And I can't be bothered googling right now.
Jo
On 15/11/2006, at 5:02 PM, meg wrote:
I work at a major tertiary hospital-we stock
Lisa, Misoprostal for PPH is used on a regular basis at our tertiary
hospital. I had a client who planned to go home 4hrs after the birth of twins
and the staff gave her Miso about an hour after the birth..she was not hemorrhaging,
it was given in case. It is also available to the CMP
Used for gastirc ulcers?
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From what I've heard, it is a drug not licensed
Are you able to "acquire" it
somehow
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From:
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To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 9:13
PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] getting synto
etc
I have a few births at home coming up and was
wondering
Brenda's cost suggestions are a lot
less than some MWs closer to the city where $3000-4000 is common.
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To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 5:20
PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] homebirth
costs
I have seen and used misoprostil quite a lot in several hospitals, mostly
for PPH and 2nd trimester TOPs.It is highly effective for PPH and can be
given orally. We would get the woman to chew it, not pleasant but quicker
action that way. It is fine given orally as long as narcotics have not
Where are you that you cannot find a midwife?
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Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 7:56 PM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] getting synto etc
Ok I need some more info I guess. I have had some
Hi Jo,
I think it is not licenced for use for induction of labour with live babies
in australia. It's ok for stillbirth induction and pph.
Melissa
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Yes, I have thought of that but would love to be
above board with everthing that I could, Cath
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To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 7:25
PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] getting synto
etc
This is taken from the misoprostol website
.
I didn't say it didn't work, just that it was
unlicenced. I still think it's not the sort of drug for a homebirth
midwife to carry.
Lisa Barrett
Misoprostol is
currently only approved by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) for the
Hi Mary.
I realise that it is used. I know my
experience was only in the Private system here and it's probably more widely
used in the public service in an open way. I also know that Antenatal
dexamethasone is not licensed either for lung maturity and it used all the
time.
The women's and
Same in WA. MM
Approx $2000-$2500 here in SA I think,
from what I know anyway
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On Behalf Of diane
Sent: Wednesday, 15 November 2006
4:51 PM
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Ah, ok. Thanks for clarifying. :)
Jo
On 15/11/2006, at 6:25 PM, Melissa Singer wrote:
Hi Jo,
I think it is not licenced for use for induction of labour with
live babies in australia. It's ok for stillbirth induction and pph.
Melissa
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Thank you for all the replies, what a wonderful resource you all are.
Yes the idea is to use it if a PPH occurs. I was not aware it could be given
orally. My history is a 700ml pph with c/s not much considering and a 1500ml
pph with quick VBAC on birth stool. Stopped with synto and a oxy drip but
I thought Tiff had mentioned a midwife around Townsville a while back, you
out there Tiff?? When are you expecting your bub Philippa?
Cheers,
Di (now in Mackay)
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Sent: Wednesday, November
Early feb, bit some one would have told me if there was anyone here. I am
supposed to know these things here. I will be cranky if I have missed
something that big!!
Philippa Scott
Birth Buddies - Doula
Assisting women and their families in the preparation towards childbirth and
labour.
President
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To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 9:29 PM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] getting synto etc
Ps: what is pr and TOPs?
Cheers
PR = Per RectumTOP= Termination of Pregnancy
Sue
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Hi Di!
Yes I'm here! Just got back from my honeymoon. The midwives I mentioned
were in Mareeba about an hour west of Cairns on the Tablelands!
Hope you find a midwife soon Phillipa!
Tiff
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I have been away for a week haven't spoken to my colleagues about what's
happened but will do it tomorrow then post the details.
I don't think anyone here knew about the radio broadcast in Rosebud mentioned
in the MCVic Digest.
However as I say, I've been away a week maybe our lot requested
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Hi All,
I did a little research recently concerning Misoprostil and discovered that
the WHO has also been researching Misiprostil for the prevention of PPH.
Like many of you have already mentiioned it is not recomended for use in
obstetrics although it is widely used and it is easier to store
thanks Leanne, it islways good to hear latest research, Cath
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Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 9:32 AM
Subject: RE: FW: [ozmidwifery] getting synto etc
Hi All,
I did a little research
I have had the woman go to her GP and get a script. Only one so
far and that was ok, she also got a script for the Vit K.
Re charges. As far as I know they vary very widely over the
country. I have only just started up and the first couple were
cheaper than the next one I have booked. I found
Pip,
Have you considered a partus-prep herbal tincture formula as well. Usually start at 34/40 at low dose and gradually increase over the weeks until labour. I give it to all keen mums-to-be. Typically I make it a mix ofof squaw vine, false unicorn root, raspberry leaves, chaste tree etc etc. The
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Chilling stuff to read how many of the women who died having complications
most likely related to their previous caesareans. Avoiding that first
surgery is key to avoiding so much trauma.
J
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From: LJG [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Thursday,
My chemist charges $15 for the packet of vitamin K. That gives me 5 doses,
so I have extras to 'start' the next woman who chooses to have it.
Robyn Dempsey
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From: Judy Chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006
Not at all related to anything but worth a look
Andrea
Some really great shots of earth:
What A Beautiful Blue Planet!
scroll down after opening...
Makes our energy use look tiny in comparison, but per capita it is still not
good!
Andrea it is related, its all part of the same wonderous magic of nature that
we see at a personal level at every birth we are priviledged to be part of.
Di.
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From: Andrea
Hi Sue,
I have also read and heard of this practice in America of giving the synto
after the placenta has been delivered. One of the obstetricians who used to
work here went to a conference over there where they were discussing 3rd stage
management. When she suggested giving the synto before
HiSue,
I can't quote scientific evidence on this, but as Michelle has also
experienced, when talking to American midwives, this is what I have
been told. I gather than some places have moved on to active
managements of 3rd stage. When reading the literature the timing of
the injection of
Hi Kristin,
This sounds a lot like the Nature’s sunshine product called 5W that’s no
longer available here in Australia. I’ve used it for the last year for
heavy menstrual bleeding and it works a treat! Helps with cramps, soothes
the belly, lightens the bleed, no clots…probably too much
Dear Kristin
Can you tell me specifically where I can purchase this potion ? As a 42 year
old primip , I need all the help I can get to keep the obstetric demons away
from me, as I now don't have a lot choise when it comes to birthing places. I
am confident that I will birth well with the help
pinky
trying to get hold of you but couldn't get that ph# you emailed in sept., to
do the trick...?
...are you aware your book and name also appear on a brochure over here
featuring an untested baby 'sleeptime' product?
warm rgds
miriam
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From: Pinky McKay [EMAIL
I used to offer women the 5W capsules if they didnt want the liquid tincture (an acquired taste for some). The tincture formula can vary from woman to woman depending on any significant Hx and also her stress levels and general pregnancy health, but the basis is due to its uterine actions and
Wouldn't a truly physiological third stage involve waiting till the placenta
is birthed before clamping/cutting the cord?
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With kind regards
Brenda Manning
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Just going from a very faded memory from
my Mid education, but wasnt it the Hinchinbrook trial that outlined the
dangers of mixing the two practices? I know it was seen as a flawed and dated
trial, with dubious parameters of normal and of what physiological actually
meant, but if someone
I have a few births at home coming up and was
wondering about synto and other drugs in my kit. How do others purchase them? Do
I have to have a script from a doctor? The other issue that I do find difficult
is the issue of cost for homebirth.Others I have been involved in have been for
As a woman planning for a homebirth, I
just went to my GP and got a prescription from her for a dose of syntometrine.
I still have to go to the pharmacy to get it filled- hope they are as easy to
deal with as my GP is J I do know my midwife has a GP who will write scripts for her, yet my
Talking to Jessica Rowe about helping babies to sleep
J
Pass it on Channel 9.
Best Regards,
Kelly Zantey
Creator,BellyBelly.com.au
Conception, Pregnancy,
Birth and Baby
BellyBelly Birth Support
Hi Sonia,
Did you make the sling or purchase it from some
one?
Cath
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From:
Sonja
Barry
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 7:34
PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] hanging baby
scales
Thanks everyone for
This is part of the big problem with the
way in which independent midwives are forced to work here in Australia isnt
it? An IPM who chooses not to carry synto or erg would be crucified in the
event of a PPH, but the reality is that there are few ways to legally acquire
it, and even fewer
Hello,
I am contacting you to let you know that I am forming a Birth
after C-Section information and support group. The idea behind this group is to
give women (and their partners if they would like to) an opportunity to speak
to others that are interested or experienced in VBAC
you can purchase syntocinon at www.livingstone.com.auAndrea QOn 14/11/2006, at 9:13 PM, cath nolan wrote:I have a few births at home coming up and was wondering about synto and other drugs in my kit. How do others purchase them? Do I have to have a script from a doctor? The other issue that I do
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] No Births at Ryde Birth Centre
Justine,
can you clarify what you mean? I
don't understand what you're saying. What "greater good" are women losing out
to? How long will it last? When will births be reinstated? Who is the driving
force behind denying women their
How excellent, Philippa! Not enough
to do with your time?
; )
J
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From:
Philippa Scott
To: Philippa Scott
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 11:35
PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Birth After
C-Section Information and Support group.
Hello,
Sonja wroteI
now have a beautiful digital set with a lovely purple sling to hang the babies
in. Please tell us more.
Like Where did you get them, how much do they cost, to what weight do they
measure, what brand are they? Thanks, MM
Andrea, it is my understanding that one
still has to have a Drs order (e.g. prescription) before a midwife can
actually give the drug. Prior to the CMP being under the umbrella of the State
Health Dept, WA metro midwives had to get the woman to get a script from their
doctor for synto, Vit
I have a few births at home coming up and was wondering about synto and
other drugs in my kit. How do others purchase them? Do I have to have a
script from a doctor? The other issue that I do find difficult is the
issue of cost for homebirth.Others I have been involved in have been for
friends
Justine,
can you clarify what you mean? I don't understand what you're saying.
What greater good are women losing out to? How long will it last? When
will births be reinstated? Who is the driving force behind denying women
their intended place and mode of birth and what are their motives?
Dear all
I might be able to shed a bit of light on Justine's comments.
One of the obstacles we had in getting Ryde Midwifery Group Practice up
and running was an assurance to the Area health service that there
would always be someone (obstetric) capable of doing an emergency CS
if necessary
Hi Andrea,
I am not aware of the practice you have mentioned in America. Have you
any references for this?
Any idea what occurs if the placenta takes longer to arrive than the 20
minutes or so??
Sue
Hello Sue,
The question of third stage management has a cultural aspect as well.
In the
Hi
Would it be possible that yu could send me the PDF full paper?
Many thanks
Elaine
LJG wrote:
I have a PDF of the full paper if anyone is interested..pm me
Lisa
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Thanks Andrea for the Livingstone tip, I have
bought things off there before but wasn't aware that I could get synt.
Cath
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From:
Andrea
Quanchi
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 5:28
AM
Subject: Re:
I know a couple of MPs but this stuff
is rather vague I don't know exactly how to brief them. Anything particularly
clear to share with them would be appreciated!
: )
J
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From:
sally
tracy
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Wednesday,
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] No Births at Ryde Birth Centre
Dear Abby, Janet and all
I hope Sally Tracy answered your questions.
I clearly said in my previous message that MC would advocate on behalf of any woman caught up in this.
We will support women to achieve the birth they want. I am also
Good luck with this support group Philippa. I do
think there is a need for this in Townsville. Hope you are keeping
well.
regards Linda Trewern
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From:
Philippa Scott
To: Philippa Scott
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 10:35
PM
Subject:
Check the RNS/ Ryde newsletter online, has a small
section in it.
Cheers,
Di
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From:
Janet
Fraser
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 8:46
AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] No Births at
Ryde Birth Centre
DATE
Wednesday 8
November 2006
Announcing temporary changes to
Maternity
Services
at Ryde
Hospital
Ry
The Ryde Midwifery Group Practice based at
Ryde
Hospital
has
Something like that Janet!! This thing we
are called to do is very insistent isnt it? Oh well If you love it is
not a burden. I would hate to spend this much time doing something I did not
enjoy though!!
Cheers
Philippa Scott
Birth Buddies - Doula
Assisting women and their families
Hi Cath,
I give the women a letter for the doctor. We've (
the woman and I) have already discussed which tests she would like/ wouldn't
like to have. The doctor is then given the letter with an outline of what the
woman needs. This can be basic bloods, a script for vitamin k, a script for
Yes, the synto is about $100 a box. So what I do, is buy/pay for one box,
which lasts for the next women ( does that make sense?), I only use Synto
about once a year! ( and then there are the years you need it 3 times in a
row!)
Robyn D
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Are there really MWs who can't
resus??? Sounds very unlikely to me! What's the "greater good", Justine? I'm
more confused than ever.
J
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From:
Janet
Fraser
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 12:20
PM
I have a couple of questions about this situation in regards to the media
statement ~
Unfortunately it has not proven possible to recruit to Ryde Hospital a Career
Medical Officer (CMO) with the appropriate skills to assist midwives with the
resuscitation of a newborn baby if required.
It
Thanks Justine. I will pass on your details to my sister. I'm not sure if she
will contact you though, she is completely shattered. Her last birth was
horribly traumatic in a hospital as was the aftermath. She is freaked out but
doesn't feel like she has the strength to fight it.
Love Abby
Hi Cath,
I do a similar thing to others on the list, ask the OB I work with for a
script for any drugs needed ie synt, ergo, konak, xylocaine, maxalon, anti-D,
Hep B Vax etc. Client gets script filled I buy them off her if I don't have a
cache myself. I use these things so rarely that 1
misoprostal isn't licenced here is Australia. I wouldn't be prescribing it
if I were a GP. When I was Working at a private Hospital the Obs kept it
in their own possesion. It isn't licenced to be kept at the hospital as far
as I know. The pharmacy at the hospital wouldn't touch it. It's
Wow thats a significant difference between NSW and
Vic, what about elsewhere??
Cheers,
Di
Approx $2000-$2500 here in SA I think,
from what I know anyway
From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
[mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au]
On Behalf Of diane
Sent: Wednesday, 15 November 2006
4:51 PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: [ozmidwifery]
We use Misoprostol at the hospital where I work and it is kept in the fridge
next to the syntocinon and syntometrine and the prostins etc.
Why would you want to use it at your homebirth but. Syntocinon should be
just fine. Misoprostol is a fairly heavy drug of choice with a fair few side
It may well be, as I rarely cut the cord before the
placenta has birthed during a physiological third stage (unless requested), even
when the woman chooses not to have a lotus birth.
Andres Bilcliff
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From:
Susan
Cudlipp
I mean, does the
fact
Hush Hush is how these things
happen.
Same is about to happen to Rosebud midwifery
but it's being kept quiet because we are 2 weeks from an election it'll
"affect the voting " !
How's that ??
With kind regardsBrenda Manning www.themidwife.com.au
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From:
Title: Message
look
at this! Really no hope for birth Centres
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ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] No Births at
Hush Hush is how these things happen.
Same is about to happen to Rosebud midwifery but it's being kept quiet because
we are 2 weeks from an election it'll affect the voting !
How's that ??
With kind regards
Brenda Manning
www.themidwife.com.au
With kind regards
Brenda Manning
Hey Brenda
Why on earth would you sit down for that.
Where are your consumers running to the media.
It is only at election time will we achieve anything!
JC
Hush Hush is how these things happen.
Same is about to happen to Rosebud midwifery but it's being kept quiet
because we are 2 weeks
what can we do Brenda?? Rosebud is a great place to have a baby. We cant
sit back and let it happen.
Pinky
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To: OzMid List ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 11:21 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] NO
I have been away for a week haven't spoken to my colleagues about what's
happened but will do it tomorrow then post the details.
I don't think anyone here knew about the radio broadcast in Rosebud mentioned
in the MCVic Digest.
However as I say, I've been away a week maybe our lot requested
Hush Hush was tried in mareeba but it leaked!! Tut, Tut.
Cheers
Judy
--- brendamanning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hush Hush is how these things happen.
Same is about to happen to Rosebud midwifery but it's being
kept quiet because we are 2 weeks from an election it'll
affect the voting !
I've tried phoning Ryde but no one's
answering either today or yesterday. Can anyone answer the question yet? Is it
closing?
J
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From:
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To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 10:24
PM
Subject: Re:
Hi,
I'm interested if there is any research on delaying synto for say up to
5 minutes in 'active 3rd stage'.
Have been doing actively managed third stage throughout my clinical
placements as a student (nearly finished!!) with some practitioners
cutting the cord immediately, and most at about
Hello Sue,
The question of third stage management has a cultural aspect as well.
In the US, as far as I know, the syntometrine is not given until
after the placenta arrives. It is then given to prevent excessive
bleeding. Interesting to speculate on how this major difference
developed, and
Sue,
You really need to decide whether your patient wishes for an active or a
physiological third stage. It can be dangerous to try and do a half-half
sort of third stage.
If you plan a physiological third stage then you need to:
1. Dont clamp or cut the cord until it stops pulsating.
2. Put
Sue that's how I do most of mine...don't give the oxytocic with the anterior
shoulderand it's usually some minutes before I 'get' around to it!!!
There is a wide variation of practice isn't there...it is one of those
things that we have always been led to believe i.e if you don't give that
Hi Sue this is something I have always been interested inthe link is to
the FIGo/ICM Joint statement on active third stage and it states you can
leave the cord in a well newborn to stop pulsating...and then cut; this is
with giving the oxytocic at birth..
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] No Births at Ryde Birth Centre
Dear All
Ryde Midwifery Group Practice is not closing. For the immediate future all women booked on the RMGP will need to birth at RNS.
I believe Ryde Hospital is having some issues and there is a view to remove the RMGP from greater
I should add that a physiological third stage is the natural progression
from a normal labour.
However if the woman has had a labour influenced by IOL, augmentation and
directed pushing in second stage then she is more at risk of a PPH because
her uterus has been unnaturally pushed to labour
Competely agree Leanne...but am also of the belief that the issue of timing
of the injection, and therefore timing of the clamping are things that have
been thrust upon us. The research is variable in its support of when to give
the oxytocic and how long we can leave the cord to pulsate after
Why would you do that Lisa? if you give an oxytocic you get a surge of
blood through the cord. The uterus contracts within 3 mins Syntocinon 7/9
mins ergometrine. The Placenta should be sheared off the wall within
minutes. If you want the cord to stop pulsating in a well new born surely
Where I work when I am not being a MIPP we leave the cord until it
has stopped pulsating, or the mother asks for it to be cut and then
we give the synt after it has been clamped. Our PPH rate is not
noticeably higher
Put it this way we have the usual conservative GPs and they do not
object
Well that's what we've always been led to believe, but it's not a one way
system is it? So if you are using syntocinon (not syntometrine where the
contraction is much stronger and more sustained) why won't the baby regulate
it's own blood volume? I am speaking from hospital experience where
Hi Lisa, Delaying the Syntocinon until after the cord has stopped pulsing
isn't a problem as up until you give the drug you are treating it as a
physiological third stage. giving the drug then just waiting for the cord
to stop could be a problem. When I have a few mins I'll check it out I'm
I have a PDF of the full paper if anyone is interested..pm me
Lisa
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Hi Lisa sorry didn't mean to reply as I did, am abit passionate about
this..have pmed you a copy of the bmj paper which talks about this..I think
what they are saying is that the 'belief' about the overload of blood with
the oxytocic hasn't been proven maybe!? Have read lots of old stuff about
the
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