I have the book on my shelf and it is interesting reading. I agree everyone
should have a copy.
Melissa
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From: Vedrana Valčić [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2005 1:18 PM
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Title: Bericht
Hoi Sue,
You are right, but I can understand very much what Michel Odent means.
Whywould you put energy in people who don't want to
listen? You better can work with people that are already open for the message
you have and empower them. I asked in my last contact with Robby
I think that Michel Odent is fed up with
making the effort to travel to speak to obs/Gpobs who didnt turn
up or who ridiculed him. I have had personal experience of this happening
to him here in Australia.
He is not speaking to the converted when he speaks to midwives as there are
many
Following the post from Lynne Staff, and others
who talk of supportive (might even say sensible) obstetricians who do practice
woman friendly care. Wouldn't it be good if some of these rare creatures came
out and spoke to their less supportive colleagues about their methods,
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thought
Following the post from Lynne Staff, and others who talk of
supportive (might even say sensible) obstetricians who do practice woman
friendly care. Wouldn't it be good if some of these rare creatures came out and
spoke
I'll hunt it up for you. I
hope I wasn't dreaming!
J
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From:
Vedrana
Valčić
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 7:52
PM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Just a
thought
Marsden
Wagner talks convincingly
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From:
Janet
Fraser
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 5:33
PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Just a
thought
Following the post from Lynne Staff, and others
who talk of supportive (might even say sensible) obstetrici
Hi Vedrana,
It is in his book 'The Birth Machine' I think.
Ping
I think you're right,
Ping.
J
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From:
Ping Bullock (G)
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 10:15
PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Just a
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Hi Vedrana,
It is in his book 'The Birth Machine' I think
Hello Vedrana,
Marsden has written many articles -we have some on our website that you
will find interesting.
His book Pursuing the Birth Machine describes how the WHO came around to
thinking that the obstetric model of care needed to be changed and the
consensus meeting that established
Thank you, Andrea!
Vedrana
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrea Robertson
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2005 6:11 AM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
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Hello Vedrana,
Marsden has written many
Exactly Gloria, that was my point, the ageing effect it has on
midwives. Sometimes after these incidents when you cant sleep I find
talking about it to listeners out there helps. Not that you really want
an answer it just gets it off my ample chest and then I can let it go.
Andrea
On
And letting go is so vital when we face these slightly unusual situations
frequently. Last evening a woman really had no contractions to speak of at
all throughout her whole second stage of labour, she didn't even really have
any urges to push, but did so on the behest of her accoucheur.
I sure can relate, Andrea. I have three tricks for getting a nice big
shoulder moving rush of hormones. 1 get the woman to take a big drink of water
through a bendy straw (this has the same effect as giving your parched house
plants a nice quaff of water) 2. have her lover stimulate her
Just this week I had a primip who only had 5-7 minutely contractions for
the last hours before her baby was born. After the baby was born we
waited 7 minutes for the next contraction with which the baby was born.
It was a long long long long 7 minutes. I was tempted to do something!!
Then she
This has reminded me of a very stressful incident I had a couple of years
ago. I was relieving in a busy horrible birth suite and had a woman in 2nd
stage with mec. liquor. The head was born and then nothing - no
contractions for about 4 minutes. Finally a contraction came but the
woman's
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Onderwerp: RE: [ozmidwifery] just a thought
Just this week I had a primip who only had 5-7 minutely
This has got me thinking...my first son was born in water, and his head was
born 7 minutes before the rest of his body followed. We have excellent
video of his birth, it was broad daylight, and his colour was great for the
whole time. I'm not sure if my midwife was worried at the time, if she
, where she had hung around half in half out.
I have great births, but those minutes, where the longest of my life...
Lisax
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From: Tania Smallwood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 5:02 PM
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Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 4:42 PM
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This has reminded me of a very stressful incident I had a couple of years
ago. I was relieving in a busy horrible birth suite and had a woman in
2nd stage with mec. liquor. The head was born
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Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 6:32 PM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] just a thought - stickers for ICM
An OZMIDWIFERY STICKER attached to the Australian Akubara Hats would stand
out in the crowd.
Robyn
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Sent: Friday, 1 July 2005 3:51 PM
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Hi Andrea Q,
Yes, great idea! I'll
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Hi Andrea Q,
Yes, great idea! I'll get something organised - perhaps a star that could
go on the name tags (you are all definitely gold star people) or
something similar - come to the stand when you get there and I will make
sure
Hi Andrea Q,
Yes, great idea! I'll get something organised - perhaps a star that could
go on the name tags (you are all definitely gold star people) or
something similar - come to the stand when you get there and I will make
sure that you get a sticker.
It will be fun to see how many of us
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