Re: CW9 on Mac OS X

2003-02-10 Thread Steve Mann
You may recall that the person who administers these lists doesn't actually read them, looking for embedded tidbits posted in her direction. In order to get her attention, please send email to any of the list-owner addresses indicated on the Forum Help page, reachable from Thanks for the remi

Re: CW9 on Mac OS X

2003-02-10 Thread Keith Rollin
At 10:10 AM -0800 2/10/03, Scott Gruby wrote: > Does anyone besides myself think it would be useful to have a Mac-only Palm dev list or perhaps some dedicated web site devoted to > the topic? If Palm doesn't step up to the plate, I've just setup a list...feel free to join. You may recall t

Re: CW9 on Mac OS X

2003-02-10 Thread Aaron Ardiri
> > Dude, this *is* a mailing list for prc-tools users :-). In practice, at > > least. In theory, you'd add tools-forum into the mix for the tools-usage > > discussions as opposed to the Palm OS programming discussions. > > As found in: http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/prc-tools-devel

Re: CW9 on Mac OS X

2003-02-10 Thread John Marshall
On Mon, Feb 10, 2003 at 03:34:37PM -0500, David H. Silber wrote: > On Mon, Feb 10, 2003 at 09:15:30PM +0100, John Marshall wrote: >> Dude, this *is* a mailing list for prc-tools users :-). In practice, at >> least. In theory, you'd add tools-forum into the mix for the tools-usage >> discussions a

Re: CW9 on Mac OS X

2003-02-10 Thread David H. Silber
On Mon, Feb 10, 2003 at 09:15:30PM +0100, John Marshall wrote: > On Mon, Feb 10, 2003 at 08:29:18PM +0100, Aaron Ardiri wrote: > [David H. Silber wrote:] > >> I would love to find a mailing list for users of prc-tools. > > Dude, this *is* a mailing list for prc-tools users :-). In practice, at >

Re: CW9 on Mac OS X

2003-02-10 Thread John Marshall
On Mon, Feb 10, 2003 at 08:29:18PM +0100, Aaron Ardiri wrote: [David H. Silber wrote:] >> I would love to find a mailing list for users of prc-tools. Dude, this *is* a mailing list for prc-tools users :-). In practice, at least. In theory, you'd add tools-forum into the mix for the tools-usage d

Re: CW9 on Mac OS X

2003-02-10 Thread Hal Mueller
At 9:24 AM -0800 2/10/03, Steve Mann wrote: Does anyone besides myself think it would be useful to have a Mac-only Palm dev list or perhaps some dedicated web site devoted to the topic? I think a separate mailing list would just marginalize us even more. Better to keep the discussions in tools

Re: CW9 on Mac OS X

2003-02-10 Thread Aaron Ardiri
> >i dont know why the CWR9 on mac not happening is news to most of you. > > Gee Aaron, maybe it had something to do with the statements MW made > at the last Palmsource. last palmsource? that was over a year ago - it brings up an interesting question tho, when is the next palmsource event? :) s

Re: CW9 on Mac OS X

2003-02-10 Thread Aaron Ardiri
> Um. There are three lists there. prc-tools-announce, prc-tools-cvs, > and prc-tools-devel. None of them appear to be for purposes of > user-level discussion. > > I would love to find a mailing list for users of prc-tools. and, i think it takes a good few seconds for John to create a new one

Re: CW9 on Mac OS X

2003-02-10 Thread Aaron Ardiri
> >i am sure John and the others on that list will mind if there are > > ^^^ > >discussions about converting from codewarrior -> prc-tools on that > >list. > > Surely you meant will _not_ mind, didn't you? :-) yes.. '_not_' mind :) typo --- Aaron Ardiri [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: CW9 on Mac OS X

2003-02-10 Thread Hal Mueller
At 9:26 AM +0100 2/10/03, Aaron Ardiri wrote: i dont know why the CWR9 on mac not happening is news to most of you. Gee Aaron, maybe it had something to do with the statements MW made at the last Palmsource. -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see h

Re: CW9 on Mac OS X

2003-02-10 Thread John Marshall
On Mon, Feb 10, 2003 at 07:32:45PM +0100, Aaron Ardiri wrote: > why not just subscribe to the prc-tools mailing list? there has been > a bit of macos x discussion there lately *specific* to prc-tools. > i am sure John and the others on that list will mind if there are > discussions about converting

Re: CW9 on Mac OS X

2003-02-10 Thread Ben Combee
I would love to find a mailing list for users of prc-tools. news.falch.net has pilot.programmer.gcc which is for user-level discussion of prc-tools. I don't think there is a news-to-mail gateway for that. tools-forum is the appropriate list at news.palmos.com for discussions about tool deve

Re: CW9 on Mac OS X

2003-02-10 Thread David H. Silber
On Mon, Feb 10, 2003 at 07:32:45PM +0100, Aaron Ardiri wrote: > > > Does anyone besides myself think it would be useful to have > > > a Mac-only Palm dev list or perhaps some dedicated web site > > > devoted to the topic? > > > > If Palm doesn't step up to the plate, I've just setup a list... >

Re: CW9 on Mac OS X

2003-02-10 Thread Scott Gruby
In article <112922@palm-dev-forum>, "Aaron Ardiri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Does anyone besides myself think it would be useful to have > > > a Mac-only Palm dev list or perhaps some dedicated web site > > > devoted to the topic? > > > > If Palm doesn't step up to the plate, I've just

Re: CW9 on Mac OS X

2003-02-10 Thread Steve Mann
i am sure John and the others on that list will mind if there are ^^^ discussions about converting from codewarrior -> prc-tools on that list. Surely you meant will _not_ mind, didn't you? :-) Regards, Steve Mann -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, pleas

Re: CW9 on Mac OS X

2003-02-10 Thread Aaron Ardiri
> > Does anyone besides myself think it would be useful to have > > a Mac-only Palm dev list or perhaps some dedicated web site > > devoted to the topic? > > If Palm doesn't step up to the plate, I've just setup a list... > feel free to join. um.. is there really a need for something like this?

Re: CW9 on Mac OS X

2003-02-10 Thread Florent Pillet
I've added Bernie's language modules to osx-palm-tools. Now if someone could craft a package with PackageMaker to install them automatically into Project Builder, that would be nice. Also, the forums on the osx-palm-tools project page would be a good place to discuss Mac OS tools. With the demi

Re: CW9 on Mac OS X

2003-02-10 Thread Scott Gruby
In article <112906@palm-dev-forum>, Steve Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >While fixing up my .rcp files, I wrote plugins for BBEdit and > >Project Builder to handle syntax coloring of .rcp files. They are > >available from http://homepage.mac.com/estavillo/ > > Bernie: > > Thanks for the p

Re: CW9 on Mac OS X

2003-02-10 Thread Philippe Garnier
> Does anyone besides myself think it would be useful to have a > Mac-only Palm dev list or perhaps some dedicated web site devoted to > the topic? Yes. Philippe. -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/

Re: CW9 on Mac OS X

2003-02-10 Thread C. B. Schofield
On 2/10/03 10:24 AM, "Steve Mann" wrote: > Does anyone besides myself think it would be useful to have a > Mac-only Palm dev list or perhaps some dedicated web site devoted to > the topic? Sure, that would be very helpful. Craig -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to uns

Re: CW9 on Mac OS X

2003-02-10 Thread Steve Mann
While fixing up my .rcp files, I wrote plugins for BBEdit and Project Builder to handle syntax coloring of .rcp files. They are available from http://homepage.mac.com/estavillo/ Bernie: Thanks for the pointer. Seems we Mac/Palm developers are doing to have to start taking care of ourselves mor

Re: CW9 on Mac OS X

2003-02-10 Thread C. B. Schofield
On 2/10/03 10:24 AM, "Fergal Moran" wrote: > This would appease both the Max OS X users and linux users - > just a thought! Not a bad idea, with theoretically less work on MW's part. Of course, it wouldn't benefit Mac OS X users in the near term, since (AFAIK) the porting of WINE to X is in very

RE: CW9 on Mac OS X

2003-02-10 Thread Fergal Moran
> From: Ben Combee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > effort it would be to port it over. I went to our management > with these > estimates, and we looked at the effort required versus our > sales trends, > marketing data, and engineering costs. We looked at other > ideas, like > reducing featur

Re: CW9 on Mac OS X

2003-02-10 Thread Ben Combee
It's "news" simply because Metrowerks told us that nothing was set in concrete when V9 was released for Windows only (though we all had a feeling in our guts right?) and that we should write to them and state our case very nicely. They gave us some hope that we could change things... These comme

Re: CW9 on Mac OS X

2003-02-10 Thread C. B. Schofield
On 2/10/03 9:16 AM, "Bernie Estavillo" wrote: > While fixing up my .rcp files, I wrote plugins for BBEdit and Project > Builder to handle syntax coloring of .rcp files. Useful... thanks Bernie! Craig -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://

Re: CW9 on Mac OS X

2003-02-10 Thread Bernie Estavillo
On Sunday, February 9, 2003, at 03:18 PM, Mark F Rodriguez wrote: Just received this from MW Ron at Metrowerks, so I guess it's "official". Too bad... I wanted to let you know that a decision was made last week that we will not release a new version of CodeWarrior for the Palm OS platform bei

Re: CW9 on Mac OS X

2003-02-10 Thread Gavin Maxwell
Aaron Ardiri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:112823@palm-dev-forum... > i dont know why the CWR9 on mac not happening is news to most of you. > i was pretty sure i was told (maybe it was personal email) that CWR9 was > going to be a windows only release (no questions asked). It's "news"

Re: CW9 on Mac OS X

2003-02-10 Thread Sean Charles
On Monday, February 10, 2003, at 08:15 AM, Steven Fisher wrote: Sean Charles wrote: Yes, I use GDB with PRCTools on 10.1.4 and it works extremely well. Coupled with the legendary EMACS and life just couldn't be easier. Apart from winning the lottery. I really need something that works cross

Re: CW9 on Mac OS X

2003-02-10 Thread Sean Charles
I have a large number of active projects to start moving over; I think I'll start with the small ones and see how it goes. I also need to figure out how to better use Project Builder. I have used ProjectBuilder for Palm work, but only for a while as I just cannot stand the editor! It's very easy

Re: CW9 on Mac OS X

2003-02-10 Thread Aaron Ardiri
> > Yes, I use GDB with PRCTools on 10.1.4 and it works extremely well. > > Coupled with the legendary EMACS and life just couldn't be easier. > > Apart from winning the lottery. > > I really need something that works cross platform. How are the Windows > counterparts? Is there any kind of step

Re: CW9 on Mac OS X

2003-02-10 Thread Steven Fisher
Sean Charles wrote: Yes, I use GDB with PRCTools on 10.1.4 and it works extremely well. Coupled with the legendary EMACS and life just couldn't be easier. Apart from winning the lottery. I really need something that works cross platform. How are the Windows counterparts? Is there any kind of s

Re: CW9 on Mac OS X

2003-02-10 Thread Sean Charles
On Sunday, February 9, 2003, at 09:24 PM, Scott Gruby wrote: Time to start getting prc-tools and associated tools running on my OS X box and converting my CodeWarrior projects over to makefiles. Command line tools, to me, are far superior than running Virtual PC. I've looked at a few sites and

Re: ditch metrowerks entirely? [was Re: CW9 on Mac OS X]

2003-02-09 Thread Scott Gruby
In article <112788@palm-dev-forum>, Hal Mueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How does the Mac conduit situation look? Anybody tried building > conduits under the Apple tools? As far as I know, conduits must be CFM binaries. I believe Apple's tools only produce Mach-O binaries. So, for now, i

ditch metrowerks entirely? [was Re: CW9 on Mac OS X]

2003-02-09 Thread Hal Mueller
How does the Mac conduit situation look? Anybody tried building conduits under the Apple tools? Given the way Metrowerks treated me, I'd sure like to become a Metrowerks-free shop if it's reasonably possible to do so. Hal -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscri

Re: CW9 on Mac OS X

2003-02-09 Thread Scott Gruby
In article <112784@palm-dev-forum>, "C. B. Schofield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2/9/03 2:24 PM, "Scott Gruby" wrote: > > > Time to start getting prc-tools and associated tools running on my OS X > > box and converting my CodeWarrior projects over to makefiles. Command > > line tools, to me

Re: CW9 on Mac OS X

2003-02-09 Thread Philippe Garnier
> Just received this from MW Ron at Metrowerks, so I guess it's > "official". > > Too bad... > This will hopefully help CW alternatives, including of course prc-tools. Philippe. -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/s

Re: CW9 on Mac OS X

2003-02-09 Thread C. B. Schofield
On 2/9/03 2:24 PM, "Scott Gruby" wrote: > Time to start getting prc-tools and associated tools running on my OS X > box and converting my CodeWarrior projects over to makefiles. Command > line tools, to me, are far superior than running Virtual PC. I received notification as well. I, too, will b

Re: CW9 on Mac OS X

2003-02-09 Thread Gavin Maxwell
Yup, got one too... Bugger and damnation... :-( G. Mark F Rodriguez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:112779@palm-dev-forum... > > Just received this from MW Ron at Metrowerks, so I guess it's > "official". > > Too bad... > > > > I wanted to let you know that a decision was made last w

Re: CW9 on Mac OS X

2003-02-09 Thread Scott Gruby
Time to start getting prc-tools and associated tools running on my OS X box and converting my CodeWarrior projects over to makefiles. Command line tools, to me, are far superior than running Virtual PC. I've looked at a few sites and haven't found the answer; is it possible to use gdb to debug

Re: CW9 on Mac OS X

2003-02-09 Thread Mark F Rodriguez
Just received this from MW Ron at Metrowerks, so I guess it's "official". Too bad... I wanted to let you know that a decision was made last week that we will not release a new version of CodeWarrior for the Palm OS platform being hosted on the Macintosh operating systems. This was a hard cho

Re: CW9 on Mac OS X

2003-02-03 Thread Jonathan Jenkins
Seemed only about 70 people or so expressed an interest in CW Palm tools for OS X. That's discouraging since I'm sure there are more of "us" out there. There may very well be... not every developer has time to comb the newsgroups and actively participate in the disucussions. -- For informatio

Re: CW9 on Mac OS X

2003-02-03 Thread Alan Ingleby
I think there's going to be an announcment on this in the next 24 hours. Alan "Mark F Rodriguez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:111897@palm-dev-forum... > > Didn't see any "official statement" and was curious about the decision > made. I've been developing for the Palm on the Mac for s