Re: Professional

2001-07-29 Thread Tom Rittenhouse
Before ramming a hockey stick William Robb wrote: Gosh, I thought professional only meant, its your way of earning an income, I didn't realise it is so complicated! Maybe it should be like any other profession. You get to call yourself a professional after you have earned

Re: Professional

2001-07-29 Thread Jon Hope
At 13:55 29/07/01, you wrote: In a message dated 7/29/01 1:50:36 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The professionalism is in the photographer, not the camera. :-) OK, if it's ~that~ simple, ~you~ use the disposable and I'll use the MZ-S. I'll whip your butt everyday and

Re: Browser survey

2001-07-29 Thread David A. Mann
William Robb writes: I am wondering what browsers people are using for viewing the PUG. If you would kindly click here and tell me what version of which browser you are using, Click where? For the record I'm using MSIE 5.5. Cheers, - Dave David A. Mann, B.E. (Elec)

Re[2]: Camera decsion...

2001-07-29 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi, my experience was quite the opposite. When I bought my first LX one of the things that immediately struck me was how quiet it was compared to my MXs, of which I had 2 at the time, and my Super A. I later had 3 LXs, all equally quiet compared to the MX. The type of noise they make is also

Re: Camera decsion...

2001-07-29 Thread Juan J. Buhler
Nicholas Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] asks about Voigtlander rangefinders considerably cheaper than the Leica bodies. How good would these be suited to what I need to do? Can I use Leica screw mount lenses on these bodies? Thanks again, sorry this is heading somewhat off topic. :) There are

Re: Cable release question

2001-07-29 Thread Artur Ledóchowski
- Original Message - From: Matt Kozak [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Cable release question | Does anyone out there know how the ZX series' electronic releases | work? Works fine:)) | There are three pins on the camera's socket... Do I just to short two | of them or is there some hideous

OT: Translate from Japanese please

2001-07-29 Thread Bojidar Dimitrov
Hi, could someone translate from Japanese please: http://www.BDimitrov.de/temp/colors.gif TIA, Boz - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org

Re: Professional

2001-07-29 Thread Pål Jensen
I believe that part c) you mention below is only needed after you have a certain number of pros. Pentax is capable of handling the relative low nomber of pro users within their current infrastructure. Thats why I don't think Pentax is keen to aquire a higher percentage of pro users because

Re: I got this from Ameritech.net today

2001-07-29 Thread David J Brooks
I have had this e-mail 4 times this week.The sender is in bold letters GUNJUN Dave Begin Original Message From: Mike Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 21:43:20 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: I got this from Ameritech.net today Alert This is a virus notification

Re: RE: Digital weddings - or why I want a full-frame Pentax digital

2001-07-29 Thread David J Brooks
I have done 1 show so far (Nikon D1)and have 3 other events(horses)lined up for August and possible 2 in Sept.I fiqure $300-500 per event and my equip costs are in the mid $7000 to startup.I also have many shows for the winter set up to,so keeping that in mind i haope to have it all payed for by

Re: Filter questions - thx

2001-07-29 Thread krytu
Thanks to everyone who replied. I decided not to buy Pentax filters made by Hoya - think it`s better to get B+W or original ones. Kryt -- Czatuj, wylij sms-y, sprawd poczt Zainstaluj OnetKomunikatora [ http://ok.onet.pl/ ] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe,

Re: Browser survey

2001-07-29 Thread Alin Flaider
Bill, A better approach would be to ask Igor (Komkon's admin) to send you (or to tell you the means to get) a browser type statistics. It might happen that Komkon's Apache server stores in the logs the browser type information contained by all HTTP requests. Servus, Alin William

Re: Professional

2001-07-29 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
Yes, with reference to the person. Aparently not with reference to the equipment. CRB Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 22:36:18 +0100 Gosh, I thought professional only meant, its your way of earning an income, I didn't realise it is so complicated! Frits * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

Re: Professional

2001-07-29 Thread Frank Theriault
Jon Hope wrote: There are two types of professional. Those that are associated with a profession (eg doctors, lawyers, prostitutes etc) and those that perform for reward. . Too many of the former never progress past what they learnt when they were gaining their degrees (or whatever is

Re: Professional

2001-07-29 Thread Frank Theriault
I didn't know that being a professional (or any other type) or photographer had to do with whipping butts. regards, frank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 7/29/01 1:50:36 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The professionalism is in the photographer, not the

Professional: meta-discussion

2001-07-29 Thread D. Glenn Arthur Jr.
Gosh, I thought professional only meant, its your way of earning an income, I didn't realise it is so complicated! Seems to me we're starting to mix up a couple of things. A professional's camera is a camera used by a professional. It can be anything that _some_ pro finds useful. (And

Re: Camera decsion...

2001-07-29 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Bob Walkden wrote: I later had 3 LXs, all equally quiet compared to the MX. The type of noise they make is also very different with, imo, the LX having a greater 'quality' noise. I agree that the LX has a more quality sound (I can't bring myself to call it noise) than the MX. -- Shel

Re: Professional: meta-discussion

2001-07-29 Thread Frank Theriault
An excellent post, Glen. I don't disagree with anything you've written. I guess a point that I was driving toward in the few posts I've made on this thread over the last day or two, is that the term pro or professional when referring to cameras, is virtually meaningless, due to the wide variety

Cameras Professionals Use ...

2001-07-29 Thread Grigolia
The Professionals' Work section (pages 29-86) of the 2000-2001 PENTAX PHOTO ANNUAL exhibits photographs taken with the following cameras: Pentax 645/645n -- 17 photographs Pentax MZ-3 -- 12 photographs Pentax 67/67 II -- 6 photographs Pentax LX

Re: Professional: meta-discussion

2001-07-29 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Frank Theriault wrote: You are, of course, correct, insofar as when one says pro camera, a certain image comes to mind. True, Frank, but might that image be different for different people, based on their own experiences and affectations. For example, someone interested in studio

Re: Professional

2001-07-29 Thread Anand DHUPKAR
yes, that's pretty siple and streight forward one. From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Professional Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 23:01:15 -0600 Gosh, I thought professional only meant, its your way of earning an income, I didn't

Re: Professional: meta-discussion

2001-07-29 Thread Mark Roberts
D. Glenn Arthur Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A professional camera has different nuances. It refers to a camera people _expect_ a significant number of pros to find useful. And on that basis, it really has at least two meanings: Nah, A professional camera is just one that doesn't earn its

Re: Professional: meta-discussion

2001-07-29 Thread Frank Theriault
Shel Belinkoff wrote: Frank Theriault wrote: You are, of course, correct, insofar as when one says pro camera, a certain image comes to mind. True, Frank, but might that image be different for different people, based on their own experiences and affectations. For example, someone

Re: Professional

2001-07-29 Thread ZawadiMedia
In a message dated 7/29/01 3:32:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The professionalism is in the photographer, not the camera. :-) OK, if it's ~that~ simple, ~you~ use the disposable and I'll use the MZ-S. I'll whip your butt everyday and twice on Sundays. You may

Re: Browser survey

2001-07-29 Thread ZawadiMedia
In a message dated 7/29/01 3:33:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: William Robb writes: I am wondering what browsers people are using for viewing the PUG. If you would kindly click here and tell me what version of which browser you are using, Click where? For

Re: I got this from Ameritech.net today

2001-07-29 Thread administrator
actually my machine was infected with this virus a coupla days ago - the adress was from one of the list members, so i opened the attached document without suspecting anything. luckily the Bigfix site rerouted me immediately to the instructions for getting rid of the thing before my personal

OT: Vietnam, Inc.

2001-07-29 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi, Admirers of Phillip Jones Griffiths will be pleased to learn that his legendary and almost mythical book 'Vietnam, Inc' is to be republished for the 1st time later this year. First published in 1971 and an instant sell-out this book was a huge condemnation of the US involvement in Vietnam.

Re: Professional

2001-07-29 Thread ZawadiMedia
In a message dated 7/29/01 8:42:44 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I didn't know that being a professional (or any other type) or photographer had to do with whipping butts. Not literally at least but in quality of images, product output and production value wise?

Re: Professional: meta-discussion

2001-07-29 Thread ZawadiMedia
In a message dated 7/29/01 8:44:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So we have one subjective meaning, one arbitrary meaning, and the closest we get to an objective standard is a closely related (not the same) concept with _fuzzy_boundaries_. There is nothing fuzzy

Saw my first MZ-S

2001-07-29 Thread Paul Wendy Beard
Saw my very first MZ-S on friday. Just checking out the second hand supplies in Ottawa's camera shops. ($CAN 1499 btw) Was making an impulse buy of a 40mm pancake coupled with an ME at the time. Didn't want the ME body, but it was a job lot and they wouldn't split it. As it was 5 minutes past

Camera noise

2001-07-29 Thread Paul Wendy Beard
It was my understanding that the LX was quiet loud compared to the MX. I am mistaken here? That's my opinion too. My LX makes an almighty 'clunk'. I had a P30n briefly (part of a job lot I bought) and that was noisy too. I was very surprised. My MX is definitely the quietest of the lot. To my

Re: OT: Translate from Japanese please

2001-07-29 Thread Takehiko Ueda
Hi Boz, Glass Molded Aspherical Lens, High Refraction Low Dispersion Lens, Extra Low Dispersion Lens Sincerely, Take Ueda, Osaka, Japan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.tripod.co.jp/hayatama/photo/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To

OT: Brussels

2001-07-29 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi, had my day trip to Brussles yesterday, and thanks to everybody who made suggestions about things to do. I went straight from the railway station to the Botanique for the Salgado exhibition, where I spent 2 hours looking at the photos. I think I've worn out my eyeballs. From there I walked

Re: Professional: meta-discussion

2001-07-29 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2001 8:31 AM Subject: Re: Professional: meta-discussion In a message dated 7/29/01 8:44:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So we have one subjective meaning, one

Re: Professional: meta-discussion

2001-07-29 Thread D. Glenn Arthur Jr.
Mafud responded: In a message dated 7/29/01 8:44:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So we have one subjective meaning, one arbitrary meaning, and the closest we get to an objective standard is a closely related (not the same) concept with _fuzzy_boundaries_.

Re: Professional

2001-07-29 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Frank Theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2001 5:53 AM Subject: Re: Professional I didn't know that being a professional (or any other type) or photographer had to do with whipping butts. Depends on the type of

Re: Professional

2001-07-29 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2001 11:55 PM Subject: Re: Professional In a message dated 7/29/01 1:50:36 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The professionalism is in the photographer, not the camera.

Around the World With ....

2001-07-29 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I recently read an article in which the writer noted which single camera he'd take with him on a trip around the world. One camera, one body. We've recently had a few threads in a similar vein, but all Pentax related. So, I'm curious - if you had one camera, one body, any brand, any model, new

Re: Professional

2001-07-29 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2001 7:54 AM Subject: Re: Professional My point was anyone who makes a flat statement like yours simply may not know what we professionals ~do~ when ~not~ taking photographs. Worse, you may

Around the World With ....

2001-07-29 Thread Mike Johnston
Shel B. wrote: I recently read an article in which the writer noted which single camera he'd take with him on a trip around the world. One camera, one body. We've recently had a few threads in a similar vein, but all Pentax related. So, I'm curious - if you had one camera, one body, any

Re: Any PDML'rs Wisconsin!

2001-07-29 Thread Mike Johnston
Darryl wrote: Milwaukee is not much of a Pentax town unless it has changed in the last 9 months. Your best bet is Helix PhotoArts in Dowtown Milwaukee or Mike C's (can't spell the last name) on Blue Mound Rd. Sometimes Art's in Waukesha has used stuff. Crivello's. A salesman there told

Re: Professional

2001-07-29 Thread Bob Blakely
Saying that the professional is in the camera is like saying the artist is in the brush, the cartoonist is in the pencil, the writer is in the word processor. It ~is not~ the camera. It is the eye and the mind behind the camera. In the case of the professional, it's an eye for capturing what

Re: Around the World With ....

2001-07-29 Thread Jim Apilado
Shel, My choice would be a Canon T90. The reason is that its power source are the commonly available AA batteries. I would take along a Tamron 35-90 zoom with the Canon adapter. Also, the adapter that allows the use of my SMC Takumars on it. I would bring a 150mm SMC Takumar as my tele lens.

Re: The value of a meter

2001-07-29 Thread Jim Apilado
Being of a generation that didn't have built-in metering on SLR's, I relied on an add-on meter to my Honeywell Pentax H-3. When the Spotmatic came out, I was very happy, but I still kept a separate meter handy. Today, I use a Gossen meter. I mainly use the incident metering system. Jim A.

Re: Saw my first MZ-S

2001-07-29 Thread tom
Paul Wendy Beard wrote: Another thing that struck me was the fact that it appeared to have a shoe polish can mounted on the front. Further enquiries revealed that it was in fact the 43mm limited lens. Was it black? tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go

Re: Around the World With ....

2001-07-29 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
Rangefinder, but not obliged to be such. Bigger than 35mm. Interchangable lenses. Decent feature set. Too hard to choose. Had to narrow it to three options: (a) Pentax 67II with 55/4, 90/2.8, 300/4 (b) Mamiya 7II with 50/4.5, 80/4, 150/4.5 (c) Linhof with 120 roll back, 90mm, 180mm, 310mm

Re: Virus alert

2001-07-29 Thread Scooterman
I get 3-4 e-mail DAILY that contain a bug of some flavor. I get 2-3 alerts a week from someone passing along info that ranges from valid, to a bogus hoax that's been making the rounds for the last decade. Sometimes, the URL given to learn more about the nasty being described is simply a site to

Re: Professional

2001-07-29 Thread Frank Theriault
I feel really sorry for you, I really do. As I alluded to earlier in the day, I used to be a professional (not a photographer, but a member of a bona fide profession), one which is perceived by the general public as being extremely competitive within its ranks, and very ambitious and obnoxious

Re: Around the World With ....

2001-07-29 Thread Harry Baughman
i would take my pz1p and tokina 28-70 f2.8. if i couldn't take a shot with that i wouldn't take it at all. that set up is not that heavy and that lens would give me the results i wanted. From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] I recently read an article in which the writer noted which single

Re: The value of a meter

2001-07-29 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Gee, Mark ... only you would (seriously) analyze a throw away, humorous, tag line. Methinks you've been working to hard g. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Why should I use a meter? What if the darn thing broke on me when I was out making a photograph? Then what would I do? - This

Re: Saw my first MZ-S

2001-07-29 Thread Robert Harris
tom wrote: Paul Wendy Beard wrote: Another thing that struck me was the fact that it appeared to have a shoe polish can mounted on the front. Further enquiries revealed that it was in fact the 43mm limited lens. Was it black? Of course. Real professionals do not wear brown shoes.

Re: Professional: meta-discussion

2001-07-29 Thread Pål Jensen
You pretty much nailed it there... - Original Message - From: D. Glenn Arthur Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2001 2:38 PM Subject: Professional: meta-discussion Gosh, I thought professional only meant, its your way of earning an income, I

Re: Cameras Professionals Use ...

2001-07-29 Thread Pål Jensen
Alexander wrote: The Professionals' Work section (pages 29-86) of the 2000-2001 PENTAX PHOTO ANNUAL exhibits photographs taken with the following cameras: Pentax 645/645n -- 17 photographs Pentax MZ-3 -- 12 photographs Pentax 67/67 II -- 6

Re: Around the World With ....

2001-07-29 Thread Pål Jensen
An LX and a few lenses including the LImiteds Pål - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2001 5:12 PM Subject: Around the World With I recently read an article in which the writer noted which single

Re: Browser survey

2001-07-29 Thread Conrad Samuels
Well in the past I used Internet Explorer. Now I use Netscape 6 and Opera (the preferred browser) Conrad Samuels Kirstenhof SA [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the

MX Case

2001-07-29 Thread Ian Fleming
Does anyone know where I can get an original MX case? Here in the UK would be good,but don't mind from other countries. Ian - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at

Re: Around the World With ....

2001-07-29 Thread Shel Belinkoff
... a late-model Leica M2 with the 35mm Summilux ASPH, the 50mm Summicron (next to latest edition) and the current 90/2.8 Elmarit. The M2 because it's fully mechanical, extremely durable, and has frame lines for the three lenses I'd choose. The 35mm 'lux ASPH for general shooting wide open,

Re: Professional

2001-07-29 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Yeah ... it's much like Disney World. The Take 'em Out Back and Shoot 'em ride is very popular, as is the Self Immolating Peasant Village Bob Walkden wrote: And I suggest we go any one of these places: http://www.worldrevolution.org/WebGuide/Peace/Other/CurrentWars.htm do they do package

Re[2]: Around the World With ....

2001-07-29 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi, bit light on film there, Shel. To go round the world, travelling at ground level, you're going to have to budget 2 years and at least, absolute minimum 2,000 rolls of film. --- Bob mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sunday, July 29, 2001, 8:55:09 PM, you wrote: ... a late-model Leica M2 with

Re: Professional: meta-discussion

2001-07-29 Thread ZawadiMedia
In a message dated 7/29/01 9:58:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It happens (FWIW) to be a N Ftn, 'cause when I first became interested in photography in the mid- to late-60's, and actually had aspirations to be a photojournalist, that seemed to be what all the pros

Re[2]: Professional

2001-07-29 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi, more fun: http://www.comebackalive.com/df/index.htm --- Bob mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sunday, July 29, 2001, 9:02:09 PM, you wrote: Yeah ... it's much like Disney World. The Take 'em Out Back and Shoot 'em ride is very popular, as is the Self Immolating Peasant Village Bob

Re: Professional

2001-07-29 Thread ZawadiMedia
In a message dated 7/29/01 11:08:06 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And I will continue to use the 6x7 I'll see you your 67 and raise you my now two-year-old PENTAX 67ll. I ignore other formats on this list in that the talk is nearly 100% 35 mm. Thus ~my~ references on

OT: Help Me

2001-07-29 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
Issue #1: Why do dilutes of film developer? How does this reduce grain other characteristics? Issue #2: I need to reinstall my Win98 (complete version) but have lost/misplaced (due to my move from OK to OH) the box, etc. Anyone got a SN to loan me while I look for the

Re: Professional

2001-07-29 Thread ZawadiMedia
In a message dated 7/29/01 11:10:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Depends on the type of photography. Enter BDSM into google for examples of what Mafud is talking about. It's the dust in your ears and your clouded corneas which won't let you see or hear what I write.

Re: Professional: meta-discussion

2001-07-29 Thread ZawadiMedia
In a message dated 7/29/01 11:08:25 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What I was calling fuzzy was not the build of a pro camera. What's _fuzzy_ are the boundaries of who counts as a pro or what kinds of pro do we mean when we discuss cameras used by profesionals.

Signatures was:Re: The value of a meter

2001-07-29 Thread Mark D.
From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gee, Mark ... only you would (seriously) analyze a throw away, humorous, tag line. Methinks you've been working to hard g. One right back atcha Mark Dalal mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Contrast is like crack! - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss

Re: Around the World With ....

2001-07-29 Thread ZawadiMedia
In a message dated 7/29/01 11:16:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So, I'm curious - if you had one camera, one body, any brand, any model, new or old - which would it be, and why? If you care to mention which lenses you'd take, that's fine too. Canon EOS 1n-RS and

Professional: meta-discussion

2001-07-29 Thread Mike Johnston
Bob B. wrote: Saying that the professional is in the camera is like saying the artist is in the brush, the cartoonist is in the pencil, the writer is in the word processor. It ~is not~ the camera. It is the eye and the mind behind the camera. In the case of the professional, it's an eye for

Re: OT: Brussels

2001-07-29 Thread Anand DHUPKAR
would like to see your pictures from brussels, bob. looks like you had a good day over there. anand From: Bob Walkden [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: Brussels Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 15:57:36 +0100 Hi, had my day trip to Brussles yesterday, and

Re: Professional

2001-07-29 Thread ZawadiMedia
In a message dated 7/29/01 11:18:19 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For the record, I think this is a load of horse droppings. I have seen more pro photographers who don't know what the hell they are doing out there ruining peoples weddings, and taking bad portraits than

Re: Professional

2001-07-29 Thread Tom Rittenhouse
Actually, one is only a pro if one does magazine photography. When the last magazine folds there will be no more pros in the occupation. You portrait and wedding photographers are not professionals, nor are commercial or industrial photographers. And, as for those artsie craftsie photographers,

Re: Professional: meta-discussion

2001-07-29 Thread Tom Rittenhouse
That's funny. FWITW, I don't consider any current Canon to be a professional camera because they don't have interchangable viewfinders. But then, I am old fasioned, it used to be that two things made a camera suitable for professional use. One, the ruggednest to stand up to day by day

Re: Professional: meta-discussion

2001-07-29 Thread Tom Rittenhouse
This, of course, proves my response to William Robbs earlier post is correct. BTW, Mikes definition comes directly from the ASMP a magazine photographers trade union (only they call it a Professional Association). Well, you have to be a member of a PA to be considered a professional (by PAs),

Re: Professional

2001-07-29 Thread ZawadiMedia
In a message dated 7/29/01 11:31:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: his puffing of male egos is ridiculous. Mafud, let's see some of your work. I don't believe you've ever contributed to the PUG gallery, nor have you ever posted a photo, or a URL to a photo, that

Re: Why did my Zx-5 do this???

2001-07-29 Thread Paul Jones
Maybe if its the same batch of film then there is something wrong with the cartridge which is causing some resistance which the camera thinks is the end of the film. If both these films were from the same batch, then maybe try and totally different film. Just a guess :) - Original Message

Re: Professional

2001-07-29 Thread ZawadiMedia
In a message dated 7/29/01 11:31:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'll take a Leica M2, a couple of lenses, and whip both your butts. Probably, but by your statement, haven't ~you~ also joined in the macho talk? Shame on you! - This message is from the

Re: Lying on the dock and soaking up sun for a living

2001-07-29 Thread Anand DHUPKAR
have fun! come with lot of pictures !! From: Mike Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Lying on the dock and soaking up sun for a living Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 11:53:06 -0500 And now, I'm off to become a professional vacationer. See you in a

Re: Professional

2001-07-29 Thread ZawadiMedia
In a message dated 7/29/01 11:45:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And it's likely to be much worse if you go into it with a defensive or confrontative attitude, where you assume that competition means animosity. I'm sure this is often the case, as most people have very

Re: Request info on Vivitar Series 1 19-35mm Zoom lens,

2001-07-29 Thread Peter Spiro
For those interested in the performance of this lens, I have added a couple of pictures taken with it to my website. These are the last two under the category People and Places, at http://ca.geocities.com/spirope/photopage.htm The first of these, showing the Divinity School at Oxford

Re: Professional

2001-07-29 Thread ZawadiMedia
In a message dated 7/29/01 6:18:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can I count on you for this?? Yes, snide one. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax

Re: professional

2001-07-29 Thread Scooterman
Jeeez guys. let it die It's getting so that grease spot that used to be a dead horse is nearly gone. Like many, I am a Master and an accredited Journeyman at some other vocation (making photography my avocation?). When doing work within my vocation, if I use a tool that isn't rated as

Re: Around the World With ....

2001-07-29 Thread Robert Harris
Lasse Karlsson wrote: Shel asks: one body, any brand, any model, new or old - which would it be, and why? This will have to be a close call between Rita Hayworth... A good choice, although I was thinking Marilyn Monroe myself, before deciding not to rise to the bait of this question.

Re: Professional

2001-07-29 Thread Mark D.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I never will contribute to the PUG. That said, I'm in the process of loading web pages with my PJ and self-indulgent work. But what makes you think I'd ever involve myself in you show me yours, I'll show you mine endeavors? erhhmmm - credibility SOMETHING to

Re: Professional

2001-07-29 Thread ZawadiMedia
In a message dated 7/29/01 6:16:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Actually, rather than continuing the lets see who is stupid enough to piss into the wind contest, But..but, ~you~ started the contest. Besides, I'm still learning the 67ll ~and~ how to shoot medium

Re: Professional: meta-discussion

2001-07-29 Thread ZawadiMedia
In a message dated 7/29/01 6:10:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That would be some urban legend, the F3 was introduced in 1980, fully 5 years after the Americans evacuated Saigon in 1975. Parsing minutiae are we? Unlike you, I've never, ~ever~ ~held~ a Nikon, so

Re: Professional

2001-07-29 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: petit miam [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2001 4:26 PM Subject: Re: Professional Yes, that doesn't sound very professional. And while we're at it, I resent being compared to a prostitute. I have an annual licence, a

Re: Professional

2001-07-29 Thread Chris Brogden
On Sun, 29 Jul 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your shop is neutral territory, a place where civility ~can~ rein. But the competition for contracts among wedding newbies with new autofocus cameras is ~not~ nice, not ~anywhere~. Hi, Mafud. I see what you're saying, and I think it's applicable

Re: Professional: meta-discussion

2001-07-29 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2001 4:39 PM Subject: Re: Professional: meta-discussion In a message dated 7/29/01 6:10:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That would be some urban legend, the F3 was

Re: July thoughts

2001-07-29 Thread William Johnson
Collin wrote; As always, I'm looking at the shot mostly for pleasure, with just a few critiques. snip Approaching Storm by William Johnson A pleasant piece of menacing weather. Thanks Collin, William in Utah. __ Do You Yahoo!? Make

Re: Professional

2001-07-29 Thread William Robb
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2001 4:43 PM Subject: Re: Professional In a message dated 7/29/01 6:16:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Actually, rather than continuing the lets see who is stupid enough to piss into the wind

Re: Around the World With ....

2001-07-29 Thread Gianfranco Irlanda
Mike Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shel B. wrote: So, I'm curious - if you had one camera, one body, any brand, any model, new or old - which would it be, and why? If you care to mention which lenses you'd take, that's fine too. Shel, Somebody posed this question to me a year

RE: Browser survey

2001-07-29 Thread John Coyle
On Sunday, July 29, 2001 3:35 PM, William Robb [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: Greetings: I am wondering what browsers people are using for viewing the PUG. If you would kindly click here and tell me what version of which browser you are using, I would be most appreciative. Thanks William

Re: Around the World With ....

2001-07-29 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Gianfranco Irlanda wrote: I cannot agree more. An M4p or an M3 could be good too, the only problem is they are meterless. Why is that a problem? (HAR!) -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Why should I use a meter? What if the darn thing broke on me when I was out making a

Re: Professional

2001-07-29 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2001 4:44 PM Subject: Re: Professional In a message dated 7/29/01 6:18:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can I count on you for this?? Yes, snide one. Thank you

do it yourself camera repair?

2001-07-29 Thread William Johnson
Hi everyone, I have a Pentax P3n that has developed a problem with the aperture feedback lever (as far as I can tell). If I let the camera sit a few days, then the meter will act erracticaly when I start using it again, unless I move the aperture ring back and forth a few times. If it sits

Re: Professional

2001-07-29 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
Wrong, TR. Real photographs use sheet film. Pro or amateur. G It's more important to be a photographer than a professional. Isn't that what this list/gallery is all about? Collin Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 16:45:15 -0400 From: Tom Rittenhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Actually, one is only a pro if

RE: I want soft images..

2001-07-29 Thread Paul M. Provencher
You could go the luxe route and get a nice 85mm f/2.3 Soft Focus (K-Mount) that is quite nice and offers variable sharpness. See http://whitemetal.com/kids_10_2000/tom_face_03a.jpg http://whitemetal.com/kids_10_2000/tom_pumpkin_02.jpg You could seek out a Kenko Soft-Cross for a nice

RE: Ebay 20mm/4.5

2001-07-29 Thread Paul M. Provencher
There is a lot of wisdom that says this lense suffers from distortion. Having said that, I believe that the distortion present is only going to be objectionable when you photograph graph paper or a scene that has horizontal and vertical lines that are prominent, off-center, and expected to be

Re: Professional: meta-discussion

2001-07-29 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
A true and similar matter occurred back in Oklahoma when I first got into computer retailing. The HP calc rep and the TI calc rep were both out at Tinker AFB, hawking their wares. The TI had all of the needed features that the HP had. But to make the sale, the TI rep, armed with HP 41, extended

RE: 17mm fish-eye advice

2001-07-29 Thread petit miam
You are dating yourself there :) Christmas '75 - don't remember that one, and not because of what I was drinking (I was on a breastmilk diet at the time). Just out of curiosity - which camera took the photo, the ?Leica or the Spotmatic, or perhaps some unseen camera in the background? Jody. ---

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