Re: lens brightness

2001-09-24 Thread Tom Rittenhouse
In critical work such as with motion picture transparency film, the eye can detect as little as 1/10 a stop difference between scenes. With negative films you can adjust in the printing stage so they are not so critical. And, if you are not showing them side by side no one will notice. --graywolf

Re: lens brightness

2001-09-24 Thread Tom Rittenhouse
The physical size of the lens depends on a lot of things, but the f-stop is determined by the ratio of the size of the diaphragm opening to the focal length. In fact if you look at your lens it says exactly that. 1:2.0 50mm, which is just another way of saying the diaphragm openning is 1/2 the foc

Re: lens brightness

2001-09-24 Thread Tom Rittenhouse
Actually, it is do to the increase in focal length at closer distances. For example, a 50mm f2.8 macro stretchs to 100mm when it is focused at 1:1, and becomes an f5.6. We usually ignor this fact and just say you need to open it up two stops at 1:1, but that is just a convient rule of thumb. --gra

Re: lens brightness

2001-09-24 Thread Tom Rittenhouse
Well now we get to talk about t-stops. T-stops are based on the amount of light transmitted through the lens. That controls exposure. Before TTL metering was common lenses used for critical purposes, usually feature motion picture use where each scene had to match the other scenes exactly, the be

Re: OT - Photoshop sucks (IMHO)

2001-09-24 Thread Dan Scott
Ahh, well--if you are going to buy the wrong tool for the job, half-price is quite a bargain. Dan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] Scooterman wrote: >I'd been using the full-tilt ver of Paint Shop pro for abt a year. >It replaced the FREE copy of ver 3.1 (that actually works just peachy)... >actually,

Re: Super Program/A problems

2001-09-24 Thread Jeff
> Based on my experience, I would say that the button may be gibbled rather > than pooched. ;>) > > (Winnipeg English, I think) > > John Poirier In either case, you are farfolen. Jeff - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the

Re: Super Program/A problems

2001-09-24 Thread Rfsindg
In a message dated 9/24/01 9:08:18 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << > "Hinky" is a new one on me, though. Methinks it originates somewhere west > of Mississaugua. :-) > Ya, Bill is a Gaucho from the Canadian Pampas. Jeff >> I thought he was a lumber jack, like i

Re: Super Program/A problems

2001-09-24 Thread John Poirier
- Original Message - From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: September 24, 2001 6:48 PM Subject: Re: Super Program/A problems > > Yer shutter button is hinky. Does the meter shut off? If so the > first position is good and the second position is bad. If not

October PUG

2001-09-24 Thread William Robb
I just sent out the confirmations for the upcoming gallery. If you don't get a confirmation, it may be because your email link was not filled in. Of course, it may also be because you didn't submit an image, in which case you are a big poopie and don't need to read this anyway. If you submitted an

Re: Super Program/A problems

2001-09-24 Thread Jeff
> "Hinky" is a new one on me, though. Methinks it originates somewhere west > of Mississaugua. :-) > Ya, Bill is a Gaucho from the Canadian Pampas. Jeff - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to vi

Re: constant aperture zooms

2001-09-24 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 3:44 PM Subject: Re: constant aperture zooms > In a message dated 9/24/01 2:17:36 PM !!!First Boot!!!, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > writes: > > << Constant aperture zooms are very nice for fill

Re: lens brightness

2001-09-24 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Pål Jensen" < Subject: Re: lens brightness > Bob wrote: > > > Now, tell me how interchangeable lenses are used along with those fancy hand held light meters. When you take out your Pentax Spot Meter, do you adjust it every time you put a different lens on the

Pentax TR Power Pack 2

2001-09-24 Thread Nicholas Wright
A couple of questions concerning this unit. 1) What are the recycle times with fresh batteries from a full-power discharge? 2) Can you use NiMH batteries? 3) Aprox how many discharges can you get from a fresh set of batteries? Thanks! Nick - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List.

Re: lens brightness

2001-09-24 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 11:35 AM Subject: Re: lens brightness > OK folks, I hear what you are saying. > > Now, tell me how interchangeable lenses are used along with those fancy hand held light meters. When

Re: Super Program/A problems

2001-09-24 Thread Frank Theriault
Hi, Jeff, I'm in TO too, and I (and my circle of acquaintances) use "pooched" all the time. "Hinky" is a new one on me, though. Methinks it originates somewhere west of Mississaugua. :-) -frank Jeff wrote: > Hinky? Pooched? Wow, and I thought my Canadian was odd. > -- "The optimist thin

Re: lens brightness

2001-09-24 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" Subject: Re: lens brightness > Ivan Prenosil wrote, re effective lens aperture: > > > It can't be (as people sometimes say on this list) as simple as > > lens diameter divided by focal length; otherwise my FA28-70/4 > > could not be constant ap

Japan's market, RE: whats all this?

2001-09-24 Thread Tonghang Zhou
> With some of the most avid Pentax users here in the U.S. and > elsewhere, I wonder why a setup like this wouldn't be offered > outside of Japan? Jim A. I think the Japaness companies have a tendency to test the market for new products in Japan, before they put them on other markets, perhaps eve

Re: Super Program/A problems

2001-09-24 Thread Jeff
Hinky? Pooched? Wow, and I thought my Canadian was odd. Jeff, from Toronto. - Original Message - From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 8:48 PM Subject: Re: Super Program/A problems > - Original Message - > From: <[EM

Re: lens brightness

2001-09-24 Thread Bob Blakely
I'm just having a hard day an' I'm constipated. Regards, Bob... --- "In the carboniferous epoch we were promised perpetual peace. They swore if we gave up our weapons that the wars of the tribes would cease. But when we disarmed they sold us, and delivered us, bound, t

Re: Super Program/A problems

2001-09-24 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 3:06 PM Subject: Super Program/A problems > Hi all > My much appreciated Super A behaves funny: The shutter fires as soon as I advance the film, without pressing the release button! Y

OT: Dead flash

2001-09-24 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
My 280T quit working. Don't know why. If anyone wants one to repair, $20. I'll pay US shpg. Any EE out there want a project? Collin * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss

Re: constant aperture zooms

2001-09-24 Thread Nicholas Wright
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: constant aperture zooms >Date: Mon, Sep 24, 2001, 4:44 PM > > I'm sure this is self-explanatory to most of you, but not to me. ."the > background will tend to stay at the same density".. Why? "Density" in this reference refers to

Re: lens brightness

2001-09-24 Thread Rfsindg
Bob Blakely wrote: > Thank you for failing to properly attribute > quotes. - and this from a group that is > probably zealous about copyrights and proper > tribulation of their photo work! > > Sheesh! Sorry Bob, from work thru AOL Anywhere Mail, quoting is a miserable task - PITA. I appreciate

RE: OT - Photoshop sucks (IMHO)

2001-09-24 Thread Cotty
>Exactly. My stepbrother asked me the other day to help him figure out why >his iMac would only send B&W to his color HP printer. I figured I'd start >by examining his printer drivers, but do Macs even use printer drivers as I >know them? Where on earth would they be? Where's the right mouse b

Re: lens brightness

2001-09-24 Thread Bob Blakely
The difference among f/stops on modern lenses with excellent coatings is (supposedly) exceptionally small. Some zoom lenses may show differences when used with slides and compared side to side with primes by someone with an exceptionally critical eye, I suppose. I'll bet that even this us usually

Re: constant aperture zooms

2001-09-24 Thread UDPug
In a message dated 9/24/01 2:17:36 PM !!!First Boot!!!, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Constant aperture zooms are very nice for fill flash, even with auto everything cameras, as the background will tend to stay at the same density, no matter what focal length you are shooting at. >> I'm sure

Re: in a quandary (sp?)

2001-09-24 Thread Harry Baughman
i have that tokina 19-35 lens and i like a lot. i shot a wedding two weeks ago and they put togeather two groups of relatives that a 28 mm would not work.the 19-35 sure came in handy. Received: from smtpin-101-6.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.40) by storefull-162.iap.bryant.webtv.net with WTV-SM

Sv: MZ-S Flash Expousre compensation

2001-09-24 Thread arkibladt
Hi John and ... I don't have the MZ-S (yet), but: Does this mean we can practice flash comp. without the new, MZ-S-dedicated flash? Photodane > > Fra: John Hiben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Dato: 2001/09/24 Mon AM 08:01:22 CEST > Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Emne: MZ-S Flash Expousre compensation > > He

Super Program/A problems

2001-09-24 Thread arkibladt
Hi all My much appreciated Super A behaves funny: The shutter fires as soon as I advance the film, without pressing the release button! Have anyone experienced anything like that. Can this be caused by a faulty battery - I have just replased it. Answers wil be greatfulle apreciated! Photodane

Re: lens brightness

2001-09-24 Thread Pål Jensen
Shel wrote: > Since I use rangefinder cameras, hand-held meters, and even cameras > with non-ttl metering, and the exposures are correct regardless of how > I meter, and regardless of which lenses I use, how might that be > explained? It can only be explained with that you're not very critical

Re: lens brightness

2001-09-24 Thread Pål Jensen
Bob wrote: > Now, tell me how interchangeable lenses are used along with those fancy hand held >light meters. When you take out your Pentax Spot Meter, do you adjust it every time >you put a different lens on the camera? Oh, the T-value for that lens is 1/2 stop >better than this one? > (I'm

Re: MZ-S Flash Expousre compensation

2001-09-24 Thread Pål Jensen
John wrote: > Whilst reading through the archive i came across this post in regards to flash >exposure compensation on the MZ-S, if i was going to use the flash for fill flash, >would I dial in + or - exposore compensation? > About -1.5 stops should do the trick. Pål - This message is fro

Re: in a quandary (sp?)

2001-09-24 Thread Brendan
The sigma APO is, if only just a bit. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In a message dated 9/24/01 5:09:36 PM !!!First > Boot!!!, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > writes: > > << I'm considering the Sigma or Tamron 70-300 lens > and > not ever handling a lens like I come to y'all > asking for your opinions. >>

Re: Noise and the Pentax EI-2000

2001-09-24 Thread William Robb
Its not just Pentax, they all have problems under the circumstances you describe. William Robb - Original Message - From: "john vanderaalst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 10:44 AM Subject: Noise and the Pentax EI-2000 > Hi, > > I'm looking a

RE: If you don't now own a Mac, better get one (from "Forbes Magazine"

2001-09-24 Thread Mick Maguire
Sorry Dave, it just hit a raw nerve... :0) I pride myself in being an engineer although of course my qualifications say I am a scientist. I practice good engineering discipline over my work, and guard the use of the term software engineer by those who do indeed engineer software, as opposed to th

Re: in a quandary (sp?)

2001-09-24 Thread UDPug
In a message dated 9/24/01 5:09:36 PM !!!First Boot!!!, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << I'm considering the Sigma or Tamron 70-300 lens and not ever handling a lens like I come to y'all asking for your opinions. >> Just curious. Are these lenses very much better than the Pentax FA 80-320? Phylli

Re: Equinox & PUG

2001-09-24 Thread Len Paris
The world's twenty-four time zones used to be labeled alphabetically ( a military thing, I believe), A through Z, omitting I and O. Len (in the US Air Force from 1956 through 1979) --- - Original Message - From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Frida

RE: lens brightness

2001-09-24 Thread Michel Adam
On Mon, 24 Sep 2001, Chris Brogden wrote: >That might have something to do with lens-to-film distance. Maybe the >smaller mount doesn't need as large an opening because it's closer to the >film plane than the K-mount? (Total guess) That being said, it happens [...] No guess at all. Did every

Re: Reply Part III: Confessions of an old timer

2001-09-24 Thread Len Paris
Wow! The ink cartidges must be huge! Gallon-sized? Len --- - Original Message - From: "Aaron Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 12:11 PM Subject: Re: Reply Part III: Confessions of an old timer > Well, with Epson, the only line div

RE: If you don't now own a Mac, better get one (from "Forbes Magazine"

2001-09-24 Thread David A. Mann
Mick Maguire writes: > Electrical / Electronic I see, perhaps you should take up whether Software > engineers are real engineers with the IEEE Dave, they certainly seem to > think so. I am not arguing that. My statement was tongue-in-cheek (or foot-in-mouth perhaps). I've done both hardware

Re: lens brightness

2001-09-24 Thread Robert Harris
Shel Belinkoff wrote: [snip] > ...I've noticed that newer lenses transmit more light than some > older lenses, due in part, I'm sure, to the coatings used. F2.8 seems > to be the same for all my newer lenses, but F2.8 is a little > underexposed with some earlier lenses. One of the American ma

Re: lens brightness

2001-09-24 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
Right. And closely related to the info from Wheatfield Willie given earlier, f-stops are computations of DOF. On many medium format cameras, esp. those with bellows focusing, you'll see a scale on the side which instructs the user regarding exposure and focus distance. Look at a photo of the

Re: lens brightness

2001-09-24 Thread Matjaz Osojnik
Hi, I noticed the same thing today. Few days ago I bought M42 > Kmount adapter to enable the recently acquired screw mount SMC Takumar 3,5/28. Just today I met with a friend who owns Carl Zeiss Jena 135/3.5 lens (which was made for Practica cameras and has M42 mount) with intention to compare

Vs: lens brightness

2001-09-24 Thread Raimo Korhonen
Yes - for current coated & multicoated lenses it usually is marginal - 33% (!) difference is the smallest that the film is able to record. With your dad´s old lenses you have to do like the photographers of old: test. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://personal.inet.fi/p

Vs: lens brightness

2001-09-24 Thread Raimo Korhonen
Actually the focal length increases - physically - as you crank the lens out when focusing closer. That´s why the f-stop and focal length are correct only at infinity. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen -Alkuperäinen viesti

Re: lens brightness

2001-09-24 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Ivan Prenosil wrote, re effective lens aperture: > It can't be (as people sometimes say on this list) as simple as > lens diameter divided by focal length; otherwise my FA28-70/4 > could not be constant aperture zoom :-) Hi ... Like you, I don't believe it's as simple as diameter/focal length,

Re: lens brightness

2001-09-24 Thread Aaron Reynolds
Rob Brigham wrote: > > Unless you set the aperture from the body - then you will know the > aperture! ...except I can't do that with my LX, ME Super or 67. And yes, there are zooms for the 67 (two of 'em!). :) -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to

RE: If you don't now own a Mac, better get one (from "Forbes Mag azine"

2001-09-24 Thread Mick Maguire
Electrical / Electronic I see, perhaps you should take up whether Software engineers are real engineers with the IEEE Dave, they certainly seem to think so. Regards, /\/\ick... ++ || __/) Mick Maguire | | Email:

Re: lens brightness

2001-09-24 Thread Bob Blakely
Yes. Note: The lenses of almost all motion picture cameras use T-stops (measure of light transmission). At one time in the industry, before the excellent coatings of today and when the lenses of these cameras were mounted on turrets, there could be a significant difference between an f/stop and a

wedding labs in NJ

2001-09-24 Thread Kevin Butler
Hello all, I was at a friend's wedding in the Thousand Islands over the weekend (it's a beautiful area, close to my alma mater as well) and shot a couple rolls of NPH during the ceremony and reception (it was an outdoor wedding, thankfully the sun came through for us). I thought it would be a

Re: lens brightness

2001-09-24 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Subject: Re: lens brightness > > I have heard remarks that a 200/2.8 prime will transmit more > > light than an 80-200/2.8 zoom. Is this true? I thought a > > 200/2.8 was a 200/2.8 whether it be a prime or part of a zoom. > > Thanks for any help. > > I'm with y

Re: lens brightness

2001-09-24 Thread Martin Trautmann
On Mon 2001-09-24 (15:33), HUDERER Bernd wrote: > Nowadays with automatic cameras constant aperture zooms got rare. True: only some Pentax AF lenses have constant aperture values: FA 20-35/4 F 24-50/4 FA 28-70/4 FA* 28-70/2,8 FA* 80-200/2,8 F* 250-600/5,6 FA* 250-600/5,6 That's only 7 out of

Re: lens brightness

2001-09-24 Thread HUDERER Bernd
Martin Trautmann wrote: > Constant aperture is done by adjustment 'tricks' of the > efficient aperture > - the diaphragm blades can be closed for shorter focal lengths. > > In fact I don't know why this should be done. 28-70/3.5-4.0 should be > superior to 28-70/4.0!? I suppose one point is, t

RE: lens brightness

2001-09-24 Thread Rob Brigham
Unless you set the aperture from the body - then you will know the aperture! > -Original Message- > From: Aaron Reynolds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 24 September 2001 13:43 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: lens brightness > > > Martin Trautmann wrote: > > > In fact I don't

Re: lens brightness

2001-09-24 Thread Aaron Reynolds
Martin Trautmann wrote: > In fact I don't know why this should be done. 28-70/3.5-4.0 should be > superior to 28-70/4.0!? ...unless you use a hand-held meter, in which case you won't be able to set your exposure exactly because you don't know what aperture your lens is at. -Aaron - This message

Re: lens brightness

2001-09-24 Thread Yoshihiko Takinami
Hi, On 2001.09.24, at 20:39, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> I have heard remarks that a 200/2.8 prime will transmit more >> light than an 80-200/2.8 zoom. Is this true? I thought a >> 200/2.8 was a 200/2.8 whether it be a prime or part of a zoom. > > I'm with you 2.8 is 2.8. Two different lenses,

Re: Supra 800

2001-09-24 Thread Aaron Reynolds
Paul Jones wrote: > I usually use Fuji Press 800, i have heard the new consumer Fuji 800 > is pretty good. I can't comment on the Supras, but Fuji Superia 800 and Press 800 are the same films, just packed and shipped differently. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To u

Re: 67 re-observations

2001-09-24 Thread Aaron Reynolds
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > It's a beast > of a lens, but well worth the effort, plus the price is less than half of the > new 400/4, if you can find one. Thanks for the info. I asked because Henry's has one for $1400 (CDN), which still seems like a lot. -Aaron - This message is from the Penta

Re: lens brightness

2001-09-24 Thread Martin Trautmann
On Mon 2001-09-24 (13:32), Ivan Prenosil wrote: > It can't be (as people sometimes say on this list) as simple as > lens diameter divided by focal length; otherwise my FA28-70/4 > could not be constant aperture zoom :-) Constant aperture is done by adjustment 'tricks' of the efficient aperture -

Re: lens brightness

2001-09-24 Thread Martin Trautmann
On Mon 2001-09-24 (07:39), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I have heard remarks that a 200/2.8 prime will transmit more > > light than an 80-200/2.8 zoom. Is this true? I thought a > > 200/2.8 was a 200/2.8 whether it be a prime or part of a zoom. > > Thanks for any help. > > I'm with you 2.8 is 2.

Re: lens brightness

2001-09-24 Thread Rfsindg
> I have heard remarks that a 200/2.8 prime will transmit more > light than an 80-200/2.8 zoom. Is this true? I thought a > 200/2.8 was a 200/2.8 whether it be a prime or part of a zoom. > Thanks for any help. I'm with you 2.8 is 2.8. Two different lenses, if calibrated properly, should delive

Re: lens brightness

2001-09-24 Thread Ivan Prenosil
> I have heard remarks that a 200/2.8 prime will transmit more light than an > 80-200/2.8 zoom. Is this true? I thought a 200/2.8 was a 200/2.8 whether it > be a prime or part of a zoom. I believe 2.8 should be "effective" aperture, i.e. it should reflect lens construction, light loss in glass, e

New Toys

2001-09-24 Thread Camdir
Some new toys: Hot Shoe Grip x2 4p Sync Cord B 50cm 50mm F1.4A Super A (real nice) Motordrive A (real nice too) Kind regards Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' G

Re: Locket Rauncher

2001-09-24 Thread Camdir
In a message dated 23/09/01 04:17:03 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << In 1989 I was at Tokyo's Haneda airport and was checking in my hand luggage. I was carrying a martial arts kit bag which had a portable chin up bar strapped to the outside of it. This was an extendable metal

RE: whats all this?

2001-09-24 Thread Ed
For the same reason we don't get the silver MZ-S. Probably so they can offer it later and catch a "second wave" of sales. Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jim Apilado > Sent: Sunday, September