Re: Optio cameras, megapiels, and real prints..

2002-11-23 Thread Stan Halpin
on 11/23/02 12:04 PM, gfen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 330RS has the built in memory and uses a special rechargable battery good (in my limited experience) for about 125-150 shots at max quality with very limited usage of the LCD or flash. Metal build. Small. Available at about $330. 430S is identi

Re: Why I won't be buying an MZ-S

2002-11-23 Thread Kevin Waterson
On Sun, 24 Nov 2002 18:09:40 -0800 "Paul Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Usefull for variable aperture zooms, but i never used it on my Z1. Even were it included I doubt I would ever use it, prefering to rely on the dial for the shutter speed and have the aperature either auto or use it man

Re: Why I won't be buying an MZ-S

2002-11-23 Thread Brad Dobo
- Original Message - From: "Paul Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 9:09 PM Subject: Re: Why I won't be buying an MZ-S > > > P.S. What is an AV wheel? And why don't I need one? > > Its a dial or swithc on the body that controls the apertur

Re: Why I won't be buying an MZ-S

2002-11-23 Thread Paul Jones
> P.S. What is an AV wheel? And why don't I need one? Its a dial or swithc on the body that controls the aperture when the lense is set to the A position on an A series or newer lense. Usefull for variable aperture zooms, but i never used it on my Z1. Regards, Paul

Re: Agfa Ultra 100 for my Pentaxes

2002-11-23 Thread Paul Jones
I noticed it in a shop in Melbourne (AU), didnt buy any though as i'm already over stocked in 100iso neg :) - Original Message - From: "Robert Woerner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 7:25 PM Subject: Agfa Ultra 100 for my Pentaxes > Hi, > >

Re: Great Shoot, Was Whining about Security

2002-11-23 Thread Dan Scott
On Saturday, November 23, 2002, at 10:24 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: In truth, anything goes. You just have to keep playing with the prop. I've had models lean against walls. Sometimes you can achieve a really sexy pose that way. Legs slightly out in front, back against the wall. I've even had th

Re: Why I won't be buying an MZ-S

2002-11-23 Thread Paul Stenquist
Gosh, all my Pentax cameras are just fine, and I don't even know what an AV wheel might be. I don't care that Canon autofocus is better than Pentax autofocus. I've never taken a picture with an autofocus camera, and I have no immediate plans to change that. Hell, I don't even own a 35mm lens newer

Recent shoot

2002-11-23 Thread Kevin Waterson
A day or two back I mentioned I was doing a shoot of a Lighthouse for a historical Society. I find Lighthouses the most boring of subjects, but here is a few of the images captured. These are un-editted images and as they came from the scan of the negs. http://www.wildcherry.com.au/showthumbs.ph

Re: Final apology (sorry for posting onlist)

2002-11-23 Thread Keith Whaley
Rob Brigham wrote: > > Firstly, sorry for dragging this out on list, but I just wanted to > apologise to the entire group for my last two postings - I should have > known better. I tried to apologise to the group in the last one, but > obviously failed, so I just want to say a simple sorry to e

Official: Pentax 'not professional' by World Press Photo winner

2002-11-23 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi, I'm reading a very interesting book at the moment called "Shooting under Fire". One of the photographers featured is Don McCullin. Here he is discussing his first overseas assignment, Cyprus in 1964: "The next day the battle started in earnest. As far as equipment was concerned, I was in a mu

Re: Great Shoot, Was Whining about Security

2002-11-23 Thread Keith Whaley
Dan Scott wrote: > > On Saturday, November 23, 2002, at 05:00 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > > >I had a great shoot this morning with a new model. She's a bubbly 30 > > year old who could easily pass for 20. But most importantly, she was > > full of life and really into role playing. I shot t

Final apology (sorry for posting onlist)

2002-11-23 Thread Rob Brigham
Firstly, sorry for dragging this out on list, but I just wanted to apologise to the entire group for my last two postings - I should have known better. I tried to apologise to the group in the last one, but obviously failed, so I just want to say a simple sorry to everyone. If anyone feels that I

Re: What Would You Use A 28mm Soft Lens For?

2002-11-23 Thread Mark Roberts
Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Saturday, November 23, 2002, 1:29:40 PM, you wrote: > >> Just curious here. What would you do with a 28mm soft lens? > >A really ugly group of people. Soften' down so you can't really make >out their features. :) Sounds like just the thing for a PDML ga

Re: Great Shoot, Was Whining about Security

2002-11-23 Thread Keith Whaley
Paul Stenquist wrote: > > No need for apologies. Your point was a valid one, and a clarification > was in order. But you're right, we should let this go. I've probably > been most guilty of prolonging it, and I apologize for doing so. Uh huh, now that we've got _that_ out of the way... > I had

Re: What Would You Use A 28mm Soft Lens For?

2002-11-23 Thread Dan Scott
On Saturday, November 23, 2002, at 06:00 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote: Michael, A really ugly group of people. Soften' down so you can't really make out their features. :) Bruce Ah. Sort of "Beer for Cameras". :-) Dan Scott

Re: Great Shoot, Was Whining about Security

2002-11-23 Thread Dan Scott
On Saturday, November 23, 2002, at 05:00 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I had a great shoot this morning with a new model. She's a bubbly 30 year old who could easily pass for 20. But most importantly, she was full of life and really into role playing. I shot three rolls of Ilford 3200 in my 6x7

Re: What Would You Use A 28mm Soft Lens For?

2002-11-23 Thread Bruce Dayton
Michael, A really ugly group of people. Soften' down so you can't really make out their features. :) Bruce Saturday, November 23, 2002, 1:29:40 PM, you wrote: MC> Just curious here. What would you do with a 28mm soft lens? MC> Michael Cross MC> Chico, CA

Re: Joking about "Security"

2002-11-23 Thread Ed Matthew
It's something we all have to think about when we go out before dawn with a tripod and a trenchcoat. Paul Stenquist Be sure to turn up your collar and wear dark glasses and a black hat . Sorry, couldn't resist. Ed Matthew _ The

Re: book ideas

2002-11-23 Thread Michael Cross
Sounds great. I will definitely seek that one out. Bruce Chatwin's "In Patagonia," is a classic of travel writing. Michael Cross Mark Roberts wrote: "Nowhere is a Place - Travels in Patagonia" by Bruce Chatwin and Paul Theroux, photos by Jeff Gnass. Sierra Club Books, 1995, ISBN 0-87156-359-2

Re: Whining about "Security"

2002-11-23 Thread Paul Stenquist
>Len Paris wrote: > This is a list that is supposed to be dedicated to discussing things >related to Pentax and the use of Pentax equipment. There should be no >political topics introduced here. You're right of course, and I won't continue with this discussion. However, the topic wasn't intr

Great Shoot, Was Whining about Security

2002-11-23 Thread Paul Stenquist
No need for apologies. Your point was a valid one, and a clarification was in order. But you're right, we should let this go. I've probably been most guilty of prolonging it, and I apologize for doing so. I had a great shoot this morning with a new model. She's a bubbly 30 year old who could ea

RE: Whining about "Security"

2002-11-23 Thread tom
> -Original Message- > From: Len Paris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Actually, no. That's not the list we should be > participating in. Well, the point was that the list we actually *are* participating in often gets crotchety when politics comes up, and I thought that was a civil exchang

Re: Genuine Fractals vs. Genuine Fractals Print Pro

2002-11-23 Thread Mark Roberts
One thing I've found about Genuine Fractals is that it isn't that great for 35mm scans. It works best with direct digital capture images and medium format scans from fairly low resolution (like my 1125 dpi Minolta Scan Multi - there's another thread going on about that). I speculate that the reaso

Re: Re: MY GOD!

2002-11-23 Thread Robert Woerner
Good one Bruce. >OK, who let Dobo out of the closet with a guest here?! > >BR > >From: Stephanie Stiavetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >I'm actually very disappointed in the state of this list > > ___ GO.com Mail

Re: 120 in an FS4000?

2002-11-23 Thread Mark Roberts
"Jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I don't plan on enlarging beyond 8x10. My goal is web and slide shows. >At 1125 dpi is the Multi capable of extracting more detail than the 2450? >That's my other choice in scanners. I'm afraid I have no experience with the Epson so I can't tell you anything abo

Re: book ideas

2002-11-23 Thread Mark Roberts
"Nowhere is a Place - Travels in Patagonia" by Bruce Chatwin and Paul Theroux, photos by Jeff Gnass. Sierra Club Books, 1995, ISBN 0-87156-359-2 The supposed draw of this book is the two big-name travel writers, Theroux and Chatwin, but their prose, though good, can't hold a candle to the photogra

Re: What Would You Use A 28mm Soft Lens For?

2002-11-23 Thread Bill D. Casselberry
Michael Cross wrote: > Just curious here. What would you do with a 28mm soft lens? Hmmm - probably just the ticket for the "pictorialist" school of thought in photography. Back in earlier times many "artsy types" pooh-poohed the stark realism possible with the n

RE: What Would You Use A 28mm Soft Lens For?

2002-11-23 Thread Len Paris
I wouldn't buy one. If you want soft pictures, it is a simple matter to make soft pictures with a sharp lens. However, if you want sharp pictures, there is no way to get them using a soft lens. Other people may disagree but this is taken directly from my experience, and I've been in photography s

RE: Whining about "Security"

2002-11-23 Thread Len Paris
Actually, no. That's not the list we should be participating in. This is a list that is supposed to be dedicated to discussing things related to Pentax and the use of Pentax equipment. There should be no political topics introduced here. Discussions of photo technique, film, digital, lighting a

What Would You Use A 28mm Soft Lens For?

2002-11-23 Thread Michael Cross
Just curious here. What would you do with a 28mm soft lens? Michael Cross Chico, CA

Late FS Friday

2002-11-23 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
So, who wants a nice & clean AF280T With case & manual. for $80 (shipped in US). Collin

Re: What was dobo saying a year ago...and what he's saying now to this group.

2002-11-23 Thread Brad Dobo
Oh Rob, you'd be surprised to know some things. You apologized to a poster, that wanted this to stop. You could have done this off-list? You then tried to be sneaky with added some jabs and continuing the silliness that you apologized for that was mentioned in the mail. The message was clear, d

Re: OT: Whining about Security

2002-11-23 Thread frank theriault
My apologies, Paul. I misunderstood you, I must admit. I assumed that you were talking about might include racial profiling, and when I re-read your post after seeing your reply to mine, you clearly weren't talking about that. That's what I get for jumping into what's become a political thread.

Re: Optio cameras, megapiels, and real prints..

2002-11-23 Thread Heiko Hamann
Hi gfen, on 23 Nov 02 you wrote in pentax.list: >It seemed to be a $40 difference between the cheaper 330 and 230. I kind >of figured it was a nobrainer to opt for the 330. 330 without RS? The old 330 lacks the 11MB internal memory and has some older electronics, i.e. it is slower. >I didn't

Re: Optio cameras, megapiels, and real prints..

2002-11-23 Thread Heiko Hamann
Hi gfen, on 23 Nov 02 you wrote in pentax.list: >Anyone know if the 230's lens is better? The 330GS's and 230's lens are identical afaik. The RS has another lens but it is quite of the same quality. The sharpness is not overwhelming but that's the same with most P&S cameras and tiny digicams

Re: 645 300mm A vs FA

2002-11-23 Thread Jostein
Sorry, none convenient for you. There's a shop that manufactures metal parts for many purposes just beside where I work (Oslo). I talked to them once about it, but haven't got around to give them the actual specs yet. Jostein - Original Message - From: "tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAI

Re: Optio cameras, megapiels, and real prints..

2002-11-23 Thread gfen
On Sat, 23 Nov 2002, Tim S Kemp wrote: > I use my 330GS for up to 10x8 for wall mounting / framing, so not for close > inspection, and it's great - lens isn't brilliant though and a bit distorted > at full wide angle but colours and resolution are fine! Anyone know if the 230's lens is better? Al

Re: Optio cameras, megapiels, and real prints..

2002-11-23 Thread gfen
On 23 Nov 2002, Heiko Hamann wrote: > I've got a 330RS. I don't know if the 230 is still available where you > live, but in Europe it has been replaced by the 330GS. As the 330GS has B&H appears to stock the 230, 330GS, and 330RS. > 3MP I would go for it (it has many improvements, too). You won't

Re: Optio cameras, megapiels, and real prints..

2002-11-23 Thread Tim S Kemp
> Looking into picking up either an Optio 230 or 330 for a gift for someone > this year, and was wondering if anyone'shad 4x6s printed from them and how > they look? 5x7s? I use my 330GS for up to 10x8 for wall mounting / framing, so not for close inspection, and it's great - lens isn't brilliant

Re: Optio cameras, megapiels, and real prints..

2002-11-23 Thread Heiko Hamann
Hi Amita, on 23 Nov 02 you wrote in pentax.list: >> LOL. Better buy two... >Hehe...my husband was so jealous of the size of my Optio that he ended >up buying himself a Canon... An Ixus? That could be a booby-trap for him: Now you can tell him, that yours is longer: the Optio has a 3x zoom, the

RE: Optio cameras, megapiels, and real prints..

2002-11-23 Thread Amita Guha
> LOL. Better buy two... Hehe...my husband was so jealous of the size of my Optio that he ended up buying himself a Canon...

RE: 645 300mm A vs FA

2002-11-23 Thread tom
Do you know of any suppliers? -- Thomas Van Veen Photography www.bigdayphoto.com 301-758-3085 > -Original Message- > From: Jostein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 11:36 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: 645 300mm A vs FA > > > Tom, > That's the major

Re: Re[2]: OT: Whining about Security

2002-11-23 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Bob Walkden Subject: Re[2]: OT: Whining about Security >assumes > the right to wage war on that person's country. Forever, because it's > a war without end. Sadly, the war on terrorism will be a war without end, simply because the powers that be have decided to

Re: 645 300mm A vs FA

2002-11-23 Thread Jostein
Tom, That's the major weakness with the A* lens, IMO. However, there's plenty of room to attach a 3rd party or custom made collar without affecting any controls. I have been thinking about doing that with mine. Jostein - Original Message - From: "tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: eBay - Black K sold for $1,200

2002-11-23 Thread Jim Apilado
That is a beauty. I have the silver "K" that I picked up in the Seventies. Jim A. > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 07:26:55 EST > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: eBay - Black K sold for $1,200 > Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Resent-Date: Sat, 2

Re: Genuine Fractals vs. Genuine Fractals Print Pro

2002-11-23 Thread Bruce Dayton
Kathy, I went down this road about a year ago. I looked into Genuine Fractals and by doing quite a bit of reading, I found that it is not as great as you would hope. It will help some, but in the end, the basic problem is that the negative/slide is small. That prompted me to ask on the list abo

RE: Whining about "Security"

2002-11-23 Thread tom
Jeez, a political thread where people admit their mistakes and have reasonable discourse. Am I on the right list? tv > -Original Message- > From: Keith Whaley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 10:58 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Whining about "Se

Re: Whining about "Security"

2002-11-23 Thread Keith Whaley
Okay, I assumed things I shouldn't have assumed, since they were really not in evidence. A big shame on me. That's just the same thing that gets ME going! Ooops! I done wrong and admit it. I humbly retract the assumption. And, thanks for a calm, reasoned response! keith whaley * * * [EMAIL P

RE: 645 300mm A vs FA

2002-11-23 Thread tom
-Original Message- > From: tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Does anyone have experience with these lenses? Moslty I'm > wondering if > there any optical differences. They're both ED (IF), so I'm thinking > the FA just has AF. > > OTOH, the A seems to go for 1/2 of what the FA goes for

645 300mm A vs FA

2002-11-23 Thread tom
Does anyone have experience with these lenses? Moslty I'm wondering if there any optical differences. They're both ED (IF), so I'm thinking the FA just has AF. OTOH, the A seems to go for 1/2 of what the FA goes for used, so maybe there *is* some big optical difference. tv

Re: 120 in an FS4000?

2002-11-23 Thread Jeff
- Original Message - From: "Mark Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 6:09 AM Subject: Re: 120 in an FS4000? > "Jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Hi Mark, > >I posted messages in an MF newsgroup regarding this scanner, compared to the

Re: OT: Whining about "Security"

2002-11-23 Thread Bob Blakely
From: "Ann Sanfedele" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > William Robb wrote: > [shipped] > > Also, I would like to take this opportunity as a Canadian to > > apologize to the Americans on the list for a rather indelicate > > comment by our Prime Minister's communication person. > > I have some opinions about

Re: Whining about "Security"

2002-11-23 Thread eactivist
> In a message dated 11/23/2002 7:30:16 AM Eastern Standard Time, >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > G'mornin' Chris, > > > > Chris Brogden wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, 22 Nov 2002, Keith Whaley wrote: > > > > > > > I should have known. An environmental activist among us. Sighhh. > > > > > > Why

Re: Re: B & W recommendations

2002-11-23 Thread David Brooks
http://www.digitaltruth.com may have something on that Dave Begin Original Message From: gfen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 16:32:46 -0500 (EST) To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: B & W recommendations > > Anyone have a good HC110 recipie to PULL process Tri-X @iso > 1

Re: 120 in an FS4000?

2002-11-23 Thread Kevin Waterson
I was thinking maybe having a crack at modifyiny the FS4000 myself. Earlier someone mentioned that somebody had modified the 35mm Neg holder. What are the dimensions of a 120 Neg? Kind regards Kevin -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-w

FS: Pentax SMCA 35mm f2 & Takumar 135mm f2.5

2002-11-23 Thread Bill Sawyer
I'm not using these two lenses much any more, so thought I'd see if anyone here would be interested in purchasing one or the other. The A 35mm f2 is in what I would call KEH exc. condition. The body has no serious marks, but is missing the "mounting nib." Glass is clean. I have the FA version no

Re: Pentax Upgrade Follow-Up & Q

2002-11-23 Thread Steve Larson
A stuck filter? Easy, take a disk sander and sneak up on it ;) (courtesy of JoMac) Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: "gfen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 9:04 PM Subject: Re: Pentax Upgrade Follow-Up & Q > On F

Re: book ideas

2002-11-23 Thread Pål Jensen
Herb wrote: > i have been collecting over a period of a year or so some landscape and > nature photography books to brush up on my technique, to see beautiful > photographs of landscapes and and learn how they were taken, and to think > of places that i might someday want to visit and photograph

Re: 120 in an FS4000?

2002-11-23 Thread Mark Roberts
"Jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hi Mark, >I posted messages in an MF newsgroup regarding this scanner, compared to the >2450. >After 2 weeks I got my first reply from a Scan Multi user. >Like you, he mentioned that both I & II are identical scanners with the >exception of the software. He sugge

Re: new to the list

2002-11-23 Thread Kristian-H. Schuessler
To all PENTAXIAN: Please excuse me, if I'm not writing in English today.     Hallo Ernst, ein herzliches "Grüß Gott" aus dem Schwarzwald - und wie Du siehst, kannst Du mit mir auch in Deutsch kommunizieren:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Mit Mittelformat 6/7 habe ich

Re: Optio cameras, megapiels, and real prints..

2002-11-23 Thread Heiko Hamann
Hi gfen, on 23 Nov 02 you wrote in pentax.list: >Looking into picking up either an Optio 230 or 330 for a gift for someone >this year, and was wondering if anyone'shad 4x6s printed from them and how >they look? 5x7s? >I've no idea what sort of practical image you can get from one of these, >but

Re: Re[2]: OT: Whining about Security

2002-11-23 Thread Kevin Waterson
On Sat, 23 Nov 2002 08:47:55 + Bob Walkden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: they're making it easier to > intercept and monitor our telephones, email and mail, we can't go > anywhere without being monitored by TV cameras, and there are hundreds > of other relatively minor little tyrranies being added

Re[2]: OT: Whining about Security

2002-11-23 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi, I think there are interesting parallels between '1984' and the world since WWII and although it is definitely way off-topic to discuss it I wasn't really implying that you were misbehaving. This so-called war on so-called terrorism is particularly Orwellian because it involves 2 Goldstein-lik

RE: What was dobo saying a year ago...and what he's saying now to this group.

2002-11-23 Thread Rob Brigham
Yeah, sorry I was just so surprised with what I read and posted it to the list without thinking clearly. I did think it worth sharing with people here, and considered sending it privately but couldn't be bothered to pick out all the addresses of those who might be interested. In hindsight, with h

Re: Optio cameras, megapiels, and real prints..

2002-11-23 Thread bienenbernd
My wife has been using a Pentax optio 430 before she recently went over to the Leica. In summer she searched among her photos for some that would be good for a sort of poster for the gymnastic club where she is busy as trainer. We learnt that the technical dates are not sufficient to garantee us

Re: book ideas

2002-11-23 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi, one of the leading British landscape photographers is Fay Godwin, who has published many books. She has a book out at the moment which is a retrospective to accompany a recent exhibition, called 'Landmarks'. It's not a technical how-to book, but the work is very beautiful and very subtle, most