On Mon, 26 Jan 2004, Herb Chong wrote:
> what makes you think that this would have any useful effect? all you would
> is the same messages spread across 15 or so lists and an additional volume
> of messages from people telling other people to post on the correct lists.
It is fairly easy to elimina
Absolutely, Mark ...
I've been shooting scenes through rain streaked windows and windshields for
years. In fact, the very first photos I took, with some kind of little
"box" camera, was through the rain spattered windshield of the family car at
night ... photographing street lights. They didn't
On 27 Jan 2004, at 14:31, William Robb wrote:
As I read it, he is saying that best available resolution is only
available
when the lines on the test target are aligned with the pixel array.
That reminds me. I was reading a magazine in the library the other
day. It had an article about the free
Very cool, Shel... especially those white dots under the photo where the
caption would normally be
(Just funning..)
But seriously - would you have taken that shot with a film camera?
- MCC
At 11:31 AM 1/26/2004 -0800, you wrote:
Just a little snap from a few nights ago.
I'd be interested i
Steve D posted:
> It's not as if someone else has taken over the list or that anyone is
> actively suppressing "film" talk. As someone here mentioned once, any
> hobby magazine starts to run out of new things to teach you every few
> years. The richest source of new data, techniques, and general
I read down that far and wasn't insulted, you must try harder...
At 11:15 PM 1/26/04, you wrote:
But, seriously, Folks,
And, all joking aside,
I can read the test just fine, Shel.
And I like the shot, too (even though I know you didn't ask) (and, yes, I
know that's just an opinion, not a criti
Actually, no ... no license, no registration, no insurance ...
and a restraining order stating that I must remain 100 yards
from a vehicle at all times unless being driven and i am
in the back seat, securely buckled in.
That's why I only drive at night ...
frank theriault wrote:
> Shel,
>
> They
Actually, the movie image came up while I was composing the message. What I found
was that the character in the movie, a barber, had a very flat personality, and
because your image came across to me as flat, for lack of a better word at the
moment, the movie and the character jumped into my vision
Hi!
Aric, I am sorry, I must head to my job. I will post here what I think
in about 14 hours...
Thanks!
Boris
Hi!
SB> Boris DID ask for suggestions ... iac, your comments were well
SB> thought out and quite germane to the general subject of this list.
SB> And if Boris or someone else thought they were out of line, or
SB> that you are full of crap, the heck with them.
I must rush for work, but I must type
On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 22:18:11 -0500, frank theriault wrote:
> BTW, what's a double Hallmark sign? I'm not very hip about these
> things. The very fact that I use the word "hip" proves it, no?
It's "you're number one" on both hands. :-)
TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
On 26 Jan 2004 18:29:22 -0800, Scott Nelson wrote:
>
> > ps. think how long it would take to do this with film: take the picture,
> > develope, scan - repeat five times. ouch!
> >
>
> i thought the analog version would have been take picture (of somthing
> small), develop film, print on enlarge
But, seriously, Folks,
And, all joking aside,
I can read the test just fine, Shel.
And I like the shot, too (even though I know you didn't ask) (and, yes, I
know that's just an opinion, not a critique).
I was going to change the subject line, adding the letters (OT) for
Off-Topic, (NPC) for N
What you see though the window on the right is the hole in the sidewalk with a
concrete stair leading to the street. On the left is a mirror reflecting that
out side stairwell, and the barber pole on the outside door frame through that
window. On the other side of wall behind the photographer, s
Shel,
They let you drive?
-frank
"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist
fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer
From: Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PDML <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Me and Bobby McGee
Date: Mon, 2
Quick critique
Stepping stones did nothing for me, not sure I get it
I like Latte Ennui, it has a nice feel to it
I think nearing harvest might have worked better as a color print,
especially if it could have been printed with somewhat muted colors.
Butch
Each man had only one genuine vocation
I can't tell. It would help if the damned photo was 1/2 way sharp, wouldn't
it?
BTW, what's a double Hallmark sign? I'm not very hip about these things.
The very fact that I use the word "hip" proves it, no?
-frank
"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimi
"Perhaps we could do something for them as a sign of our gratitude for
their service throughout the years.
"What do you think?"
Komkon theme month?
Uh, what's a Komkon? I've always wondered.
Okay, Frontex theme month.
Yes, we should do something for them, but I don't know what.
Joe
Hey, are we going to get PUG back? Is there any point in submitting for
future months?
Thanks,
Joe
There are lots of places down here like that, too. In fact, just taking
a camera into these places could result in a serious butt kicking. Some
folks are afraid their spouse or S.O. might see them with someone.
Len
* There's no place like 127.0.0.1
> In Saskatchewan, I am pretty sure they ha
The only multiple list setup that I have seen that really works well is
PNN. The secret of their success is very diligent moderation. Any
infraction can result in you being placed into "read only" mode, or
worse. No over quoting, no flames, no bad language, and no off-topic
posting. When the mod
Ya? Well, some folks understand hyperbole, some do not.
But, at least you are reading my posts. ;)
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Quoting graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
[SNIP]
One of the interesting things I have seen, and the interview with Helmut
Newton
that Lasse posted a link to seems to show
- Original Message -
From: "Herb Chong"
Subject: Re: OT: Labelling messages by topic D: S: F: P: OT: and so on (2)
> what makes you think that this would have any useful effect? all you would
> is the same messages spread across 15 or so lists and an additional volume
> of messages from
A slice of life in the late 20th century. They were invaluable, think of
the future man, think of the future...
At 08:36 PM 1/26/04, you wrote:
>
> You never know what will be important. You certainly can't guess.
>
So I shouldn't have tossed the Polaroids I took 20 years ago of an engine I
was
- Original Message -
From:
Subject: Re: As usual: photo advise sought
> Obligatory Pentax remark: I knew a guy that worked at Woolco Northgate
in
> the '70s and early '80s (long before it was sold to Sauron) who used to
write
> up K1000 invoices in advance because they flew out the do
- Original Message -
From: "arnie"
Subject: most useless photo ever
>
> http://www.xdstech.com/istd/cursor_small.jpg (46.3)
May I download it and use it as a desktop tool?
William Robb
> Anyone confirm, I don't dare think of the risks
> Seems also that 1 of the supplied rear filters HAVE to be used all the
> time, since they're part of the optical system.
> How come ?
i used to have one, then sold it, when the diafragm became slow.
it is optically excellent, has some (not much) c
To me, the photo is unbalanced. I think it would be better if the camera was
rotated somewhat to the right, so as to put the man getting his hair cut
closer to the left side of the frame.
I don't like the sink and dreck on the shelf at all, and this would get rid
of the worst of it.
I wonder if wha
When I first lived in Saskatchewan, stores were closed on Monday as well as on
Sunday. What a bizarre policy THAT was, especially moving there from
Montreal.
Obligatory Pentax remark: I knew a guy that worked at Woolco Northgate in
the '70s and early '80s (long before it was sold to Sauron
> ps. think how long it would take to do this with film: take the picture,
> develope, scan - repeat five times. ouch!
>
i thought the analog version would have been take picture (of somthing
small), develop film, print on enlarger, develop print, place object on
print, repeat.
About the useles
Excellent reason to go to unlicensed establishments. Speakeasy, here I come.
--
William Robb wrote:
- Original Message -
From: "frank theriault"
Subject: Re: As usual: photo advise sought
I hear what you're saying, Lon.
If it's real dark in a bar or at a party, I'll use a flash. Bu
Your comments are interesting, Shel. Some of them seem like you have something
in mind from the movie you mentioned that is not being addressed by my photo,
which seems to be the bigest problem for you. Some of them seem to be just the
divergence of our styles, some of your shots seem boring to
This one time, at band camp, "arnie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> what do you think? (besides that i need a life)
You have waaay too much time on your hands.
Nice to see someone experimenting though
Kind regards
Kevin
--
__
(_ \
>
> You never know what will be important. You certainly can't guess.
>
So I shouldn't have tossed the Polaroids I took 20 years ago of an engine I
was disassembling so that I would know how to reassemble it?
William Robb
- Original Message -
From: "frank theriault"
Subject: Re: As usual: photo advise sought
> I hear what you're saying, Lon.
>
> If it's real dark in a bar or at a party, I'll use a flash. But never a
tri
> or monopod.
In Saskatchewan, I am pretty sure they have not repealed the post
Pro
- Original Message -
From: "Jens Bladt"
Subject: RE: D: SMC 1.4/50mm FA / APS vs FF
> I'm not sure I understan all the math, but as I read it you're saying that
> the total obtainable resolution depends on the lens as well as the
recording
> device. The CCD or CMOS. And maybe even film
Quoting graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
[SNIP]
> One of the interesting things I have seen, and the interview with Helmut
> Newton
> that Lasse posted a link to seems to show this, is the best photographers do
> not
> seem to think they are all that good.
Certainly they'd never claim that a post
hey list,
while sitting at my computer i did an experiment with my istD. this is the
result of shooting the mouse cursor, putting the card into the computer,
viewing the image, placing the cursor within the cursor in the image,
putting the card back in the camera, shooting the cursor and repeating
Yes, spilling some, that would definitely be alcohol abuse...
At 03:40 PM 1/26/04, you wrote:
You should never drink while driving ... you might spill some ...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> BTW interesting shot.Could be used for an anti-- drink and drive ad .
I drink to make other people interest
Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 26/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
>
>>>Doesn't everyone have a delete key to delete those they don't want to read.
>>
>>Yup. And for some messages, my delete key is automatic :)
>
>You mean like thi
Oh no, I don't autodelete *your* messages Cotty!
(I do ha
First off, I think you're a good enough photographer to know
what you want and that
you strive to get it. However, in this case, the "time
warp" didn't work for me ...
perhaps the subjects are too removed from their
environment. I suppose the real
question is whether or not it works for you. I f
I kind of thought that mostly the suggestions were to think about where that
shadow is going to wind, up and what it is going to look like when it does. That
is a long way from don't use flash.
I guess, what we are seeing is comments on very much different levels. To start
with Boris's photos w
what makes you think that this would have any useful effect? all you would
is the same messages spread across 15 or so lists and an additional volume
of messages from people telling other people to post on the correct lists.
this has been tried every few minutes on Usenet and that's one of the
reas
frank theriault wrote:
>
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2082147
>
> For those of you who are new: part of an ongoing series.
>
> For everyone: yes, it's not sharp. Harsh shadows. And, yes Tom, it's a
> young lady . The gender imbalance is being addressed (but those haven't
in July, i got a call for an image in the afternoon. they needed it that
night. the only picture i had was taken with a 2 megapixel digital camera
about 4 years ago under bad lighting conditions with lots of sun and shadows
from clouds over the landscape. i never show it to anyone because at best i
I hear what you're saying, Lon.
If it's real dark in a bar or at a party, I'll use a flash. But never a tri
or monopod.
First, the tripod is liable to be kicked, knocking down your camera.
Especially if you have an assistant there.
Second, some drunken patron can trip over it, and hurt them
How can creative labs sell a 4GB microdrive and their music player for
so cheap?
On Monday, January 26, 2004, at 04:44 AM, danilo wrote:
looking for a cheap (big) microdrive?
have you seen this?
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1023&message=7308713
ciao,
Danilo.
I think that your new lens isn't as pristine as you think. The M 50 lenses
I've been familiar with were quite neutral in color rendition. You should
shoot
a roll of film, (color slide would be most likely to show any problems), to
see if
the color cast carries over.
At 03:21 AM 1/26/04, you wr
On 26/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
>>Doesn't everyone have a delete key to delete those they don't want to read.
>
>Yup. And for some messages, my delete key is automatic :)
You mean like thi
Hi,
> I don't believe that you can scan 200 messages a day and decide if
> they are interesting to your or not, no matter what client you use.
of course not. That's what subject headers are for. If I'm not
interested in the subject, or if I lose interest in it because it has
strayed, I delete all
Bill,
Nope. If I were going to crop, I'd take out the pipe on the right. It
would also move the hair-cuttee off centre nicely.
I think the sink along with the various bottles of hair stuff, is very
"barber shoppy", and adds to the mood of the photo greatly.
It may not even need cropping, but
On 26 Jan 2004 at 18:05, J. C. O'Connell wrote:
> Thats why I asked aboutr what the real digisensor resolution was after
> the bayer interpolation. Anbody know?
There isn't one "Bayer" algorithm so it's difficult to define however the white
paper following offers some answers:
http://www.schnei
I don't think Boris said that he didn't appreciate Tom's comments, did he?
Unless I missed it.
Tom, I'll echo what Shel said: your comments were well thought out and
useful to Boris and the whole list.
As one of the "nice shot" folks, I wasn't saying that you or Shel were
wrong, or that Bori
I have no idea or preference for either formula.
Thats why I calculated and posted the data using
both methods.
J.C. O'Connell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jcoconnell.com
On Mon, 26 Jan 2004, graywolf wrote:
> Why are you over here trying to run our list then? Don't feel empowered enough
> with you own? We, in general, like the way Doug runs this one. You have made
> several offers to fix things that don't need fixing for us. You seem to be
> something of a control
I have found that there are basically three ways of getting models.
1. Money. You can always hire models if you offer to pay enough.
2. Fame. If you are a famous photographer whom the model has heard of, she is
usually willing to pose for you.
3. Portfolio. If you have a book to show that the mod
Hey, Lon,
You gonna be at GFM? I can't keep track of everyone.
Have I not told you I'd buy you a drink? Feeling left out?
Okay, I'll tell you what. I'll buy you a drink if you're at GFM. I don't
know why. Just because I like you is all.
Feel better now?
cheers,
frank
"The optimist thin
J. C. O'Connell wrote:
This conflicts with dozens of web publications state the
formula I used and posted. I didnt see a single instance
of steves formula. Not that he's wrong of course.
Yep, and Herb pointed me (off-list) at one particularly detailed site
that explicitly stated (without justifica
From: "graywolf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Anyone else notice that Don left in a huff saying he would only be back if he
> had something to say, or wanted a question answered. Grin, why don't we all put
> his name in our kill file so we can not see his messages when he comes back. I
> mean he can't
Why are you over here trying to run our list then? Don't feel empowered enough
with you own? We, in general, like the way Doug runs this one. You have made
several offers to fix things that don't need fixing for us. You seem to be
something of a control freak, Alex.
--
alex wetmore wrote:
On
Hey, we could be just like usenet. HAR!
There are a lot of complaints about OT threads, they seem to come mostly from
someone who has subscribed to ask a question about his new Pentax camera
and plans to leave as soon as he gets an answer.
Anyone else notice that Don left in a huff saying he wou
Thats why I asked aboutr what the real digisensor resolution was after
the bayer interpolation. Anbody know?
JCO
J.C. O'Connell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jcoconnell.com
---
While trying to find the words to critique your images, I came upon what
Christian wrote. His words say it all for me.
BTW - I find Photocritique ( http://www.photocritique.net/) to be a fairly
good resource, although the critiques can be somewhat less technical than I
prefer.
Kenneth Waller
-
From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> On 9 Jan 2004 at 8:38, Antti-Pekka Virjonen wrote:
>
> > This update is an example which shows that Pentax does listen to
> > their customers after all...
>
> See whining works :-)
>
> Rob Studdert
Hi there Rob,
Yes, very late on this thread, but I
On Mon, 26 Jan 2004, Bob W wrote:
> > I think it would be more effective to split the list into sublists.
>
> there are plenty of discussion list host-sites around. Everybody is
> entirely free to start a list on any subject they choose, and invite
> others to join them.
This is true. I should le
On 26 Jan 2004 at 11:54, Lon Williamson wrote:
> And I have been in bars where, say, a 50mm f1.4, gives me hand-held
> shooting speeds arount 1/4 or 1/8. These situations cost a LOT
> of wasted film, no matter what Shell says abut hand holding.
I love my DSLR just for this reason :-)
I shot 15
"tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> From: Steve Desjardins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> I have a few thousand prints in albums, frames and shoeboxes
>> all over the world...a few of them should survive for a while...
>>
>> LOL. You gotta fill them with nitrogen and tape'em up good.
>
>I sh
Hi,
> I think it would be more effective to split the list into sublists.
there are plenty of discussion list host-sites around. Everybody is
entirely free to start a list on any subject they choose, and invite
others to join them.
But consider this: If you start a list, or a sublist, with a ver
From: "Anders Hultman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Keith Whaley:
>
> >> I too have spent some time surfing for Newton stuff.
> >> I found an interesting, candid and amusing conversation between two
> >> great photographers (Newton and Horvat) at the following link:
> >>
> >> http://www.horvatland.co
On 26 Jan 2004 at 16:54, Lon Williamson wrote:
> It seems to me that most hurled darts at Boris had to do with flash.
> The "Available Light" contingency smote him. That's kinda bad.
> I've seen a LOT of "available light" photos that I don't think much
> of.
I think that the thrust of suggestion
And.. what makes you think that is not pretty much the effect I was seeking?
I was also trying for kind of a feeling of a timewarp type of experience.
The shop is kind of like, "... it feels like the guy and the barber are
suspended in their own world, apart from anything around them " (to
On 26 Jan 2004 at 16:20, Steve Desjardins wrote:
> It is an interesting problem, e.g., how much of the record from our time
> will be erased or preserved over the next 2000 years, even assuming that
> no great catastrophe befalls us. I think we should create a PDML time
> capsule, and bury it on
Great idea
Look, this list is more than just about photography. It's a community and I
like it here. Hell, some people who contribute valuable, insightful
information, don't even shoot Pentax anymore! Don't try to split it into
pieces.
Delete the off-topic banter. It's so easy. If I haven
On Mon, 26 Jan 2004, Bill Owens wrote:
> Doesn't everyone have a delete key to delete those they don't want to read.
At 150-300 messages per day it is difficult to even do that. The
subject of the message is also not always suitable for telling you if
the message contents are interesting.
alex
Splits are nice, I see that on other lists already. People can then post
to all the lists at the same time, that increases the volume even more.
Funny to see the objections to digital, but the bigger volume for OT is
OK for most folks.
On Mon, 2004-01-26 at 22:43, alex wetmore wrote:
>
> I think
From: "Keith Whaley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Excellent, Lasse!
> I now have a much better feeling for the man, and the photographer.
Me too, although I knew a fair bit about him before.
What makes this interview particularly interesting is that it obviously is a
conversation between friends and pee
On 26 Jan 2004 at 15:56, J. C. O'Connell wrote:
> At around 50 lp/mm which is a typical lens, the improvement of FF
> vs
> APS is about the same using either sysres equation, roughly a 50% total
> resolution
> improvement via FF over a APS size 6 Mp sensor. You can also see that when
> using
> rea
Right. and yes film res and lens res combine to give a lower
"lens on film" res. Digital sensors are different than film
in that the diagonal and horizontal and vertical film resolutions
are all the same, not true for most digisensors...
JCO
"Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Doesn't everyone have a delete key to delete those they don't want to read.
Yup. And for some messages, my delete key is automatic :)
--
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com
Just goes to show that different folks have different tastes. You can
probably get as many opinions as people that comment.
Bill
- Original Message -
From: "Lasse Karlsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: As usual: photo ad
Doesn't everyone have a delete key to delete those they don't want to read.
Bill
- Original Message -
From: "alex wetmore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 4:43 PM
Subject: Re: OT: Labelling messages by topic D: S: F: P: OT: and so on (2)
> On
> -Original Message-
> From: Steve Desjardins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> I have a few thousand prints in albums, frames and shoeboxes
> all over the world...a few of them should survive for a while...
>
>
> LOL. You gotta fill them with nitrogen and tape'em up good.
I should start
Funny, I cropped it on the right side and on the top, and thought "I would have liked
a bit more of that sink"... :-)
Lasse
From: "Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Needs cropping on the left side. The sink is distracting.
> Bill
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "graywolf" <[EMAIL P
It seems to me that most hurled darts at Boris had to do with flash.
The "Available Light" contingency smote him. That's kinda bad.
I've seen a LOT of "available light" photos that I don't think much
of. But I thought GrayWolf was both brave (Old?) and kind in his
review.
Keith Whaley wrote:
gray
On Mon, 26 Jan 2004, Dr E D F Williams wrote:
> Labelling the subject in some simple way would not only help people like me
> to eliminate unwanted posts -- but an F: for film would help select the
> desirable ones as well. If the task becomes too laborious, as it often does,
> I may sacrifice all
Gee, Bill, I though the reflection of the barber pole in the mirror kind of made
the shot.
Also that sink helps show that this is an old, old barber shop. In fact if you
look at it the only thing in this photo that shows it wasn't taken 50 years ago
is the plastic product containers on the shel
Second the motion. Graywolf is good. Even if he shoots Pentax.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Please don't Tom.I for one listen and learn.:-)
I have a few thousand prints in albums, frames and shoeboxes all over
the
world...a few of them should survive for a while...
LOL. You gotta fill them with nitrogen and tape'em up good.
It's not as if someone else has taken over the list or that anyone is
actively suppressing "film" talk. As someone here mentioned once, any
hobby magazine starts to run out of new things to teach you every few
years. The richest source of new data, techniques, and general news is
digital, so of c
True, yet you passed judgment without an explanation. So, imo, it's not a
critique, just an opinion. And there's nothing wrong with expressing an
opinion, nothing at all. In fact, you yourself note that your comments were
just an opinion.
BTW, thanks for you far more in depth critique ...
she
Nope. Gimme an Mx, a 50 1.4, and a monopod.
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Sure, and you can use a flash and a big honkin' lens and a loud motor drive while you're at it.
Some people appreciate the subtlety inherent in available light and hand held
photography, and
others like to let everyone know they'
> -Original Message-
> From: Steve Desjardins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> It is an interesting problem, e.g., how much of the record
> from our time will be erased or preserved over the next 2000
> years, even assuming that no great catastrophe befalls us. I
> think we should create
> Yow! Is it too late to revoke my critique
request? :)
>
Yep.You asked for it.LOL
Dave
Boris DID ask for suggestions ... iac, your comments were well thought out and quite
germane to the general subject of this list. And if
Boris or someone else thought they were out of line, or that you are full of crap, the
heck with them.
Frankly, I get the sense that "very nice" is a good cri
As do I..too:-)
Dave
BTW interesting shot.Could be used for an anti-- drink and drive ad .
> As do I ... ;-))
>
> Christian wrote:
>
> > I can read the description fine
>
> [...]
>
> > I feel better now ;-)
> >
>
Yow! Is it too late to revoke my critique request? :)
> -Original Message-
> From: Christian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 2:51 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Me and Bobby McGee
>
>
> I can read the description fine (I'm running 1600x1200 on a 19"
This assumes, however, that we are not generating so much stuff that
there will be plenty of stuff for historians to look at. (We probably
generate enough paper stuff alone to keep thee future guys busy for
ever.) If the digital stuff survives at all, they'll have plenty; if it
doesn't, then wha
Looks fine to me, but then I have good eyes. I like the mood of the
picture as well.
Dead-eye Desjardins
Steven Desjardins
Department of Chemistry
Washington and Lee University
Lexington, VA 24450
(540) 458-8873
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graywolf wrote:
> Yes they do.
>
> But when it is on a mailing list sponsered by Pentax, there
> are liability issues involved. On a public list, as the PDML
> is now, they don't have to worry about it.
>
> "Our Johnny read, on the Official Pentax Mailing list, how to
> modify his strobe, st
It's fine here, Shel.
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Just a little snap from a few nights ago.
I'd be interested in how the description appears
on your monitors ... is it easily readable, too big/small
...
Thanks for looking, IAC ...
http://home.earthlink.net/~digisnaps/mcgee.html
shel
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