RE: AW: LX envy

2004-02-16 Thread frank theriault
That's okay, Cotty, I don't much care what you think anyway. vbg cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Not telling! :-p Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) |

Re: Do Smarter Cameras make Dumber Photogs?

2004-02-16 Thread frank theriault
Hi, Alan, I'm sure it's worth knowing how to use, if one has a camera that has it. The newest camera in my stable is my LX. So, knowing how to use it is somewhat irrelevent to me. And, no, I wasn't having you on. Not having a body with that feature, I have no current need to know. But,

Re: istD questions (was Re: Do Smarter Cameras make Dumber Photogs?)

2004-02-16 Thread John Francis
Hello John, With that utility, sharpening, color correction and what else would be typical to be done? What is your normal workflow with this utility? Thanks, I've just realised that at present it's hard-wired to daylight white balance - there's still a little more I need to do here

Re: Do Smarter Cameras make Dumber Photogs?

2004-02-16 Thread George Sinos
Earlier Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only thing about moving to the istd is that I'd probably want/need to upgrade Photoshop to CS ... Shel - I don't have an alternative is you want to upgrade Photoshop CS, but I'm pretty sure you don't need to make the upgrade. My bargain

RE: Do Smarter Cameras make Dumber Photogs?

2004-02-16 Thread Simon King
Herb Chong wrote: all that tells me is that the number of people who really do want to learn is falling. there is too much temptation to turn on the meter or AF and let it do everything for you, even in a photo course. At big sporting events (Olympics/world cup etc) you see literally

Re: Do Smarter Cameras make Dumber Photogs?

2004-02-16 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
Automation has nothing to do with light, form and composition, and everything to do with being a photographer. If anything, automation has permitted photographers to concentrate more on light, form and composition rather than technical minutiae. The strength of an image is what counts and the

Re: Bird Watching

2004-02-16 Thread Kenneth Waller
I believe what you've caught are several black breasted nut crunchers. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 4:29 AM Subject: Bird Watching Frank and Butch,I would really appreciate it if you (and anybody

Re: Do smarter toasters make better bagels? (Re: Do Smarter Cameras make Dumber Photogs?

2004-02-16 Thread Mark Roberts
Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bill Owens wrote: I'll try and duplicate this experiment to confirm the hypothesis. However, the bagel button on my toasting device appears to turn off one side of each of the containers which hold the bagel for toasting. I assume that if my

Re: February PUG feedback

2004-02-16 Thread Kenneth Waller
Pat, thanks for taking the time to comment on these images. As to my Watery Post, these are old pilings from a pier or dock. With the water level currently down somewhat in the Great Lakes, more of these pilings are visible than in previous years. Kenneth Waller - Original Message -

Re: Do Smarter Cameras make Dumber Photogs?

2004-02-16 Thread Herb Chong
in those venues, it wouldn't be black though. horrible grainy mess, but not black. as i said in another post, if these photographers can identify which venue and which event, then it was a lousy, but successful photograph for them. you and i would junk such a photo if we took it, after trying to

Re: Do Smarter Cameras make Dumber Photogs?

2004-02-16 Thread Keith Whaley
Well, I'll tell ya, William, I would NOT enter a doctor's office whose sign outside said, MEDICAL PARCTICE. Sorry. . . keith mbg William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: graywolf Subject: Re: Do Smarter Cameras make Dumber Photogs? Of course, I do own a

Re: Do Smarter Cameras make Dumber Photogs?

2004-02-16 Thread Rob Studdert
On 16 Feb 2004 at 20:00, Herb Chong wrote: holding the average public to the standards of artistic photography is stupid and a waste of time since they don't care about art and and don't need to care. a photograph with identifiable content is a good photograph. This is exactly why digital

RE: February PUG feedback

2004-02-16 Thread Alan Chan
I have been afraid of spiders but the fear factor has decreased a little since I photograpged this spider. g Regards, Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan Spider by Alan Chan Alan, this shot is a little to up close and personal for me. I didn't realize that spiders could be quite so

Re: LX and 360FGZ flash

2004-02-16 Thread Alan Chan
I wasn't aware Pentax had made the AF360FGZ available in analog TTL mode. Other Pentax autofocus flashes support digital TTL mode only afaik. Regards, Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan You can use the AF360FGZ on the LX in TTL mode. A lot of the other features are unavailable. The zoom

Re: istD Comments on Leica Photo.net

2004-02-16 Thread Peter Alling
But you could if you ever met her. At 10:29 AM 2/16/04, you wrote: - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: Re: istD Comments on Leica Photo.net I recall a Canon user saying that she was disappointed because she couldn't get reruns of Gilligan's Island on her 10D. I'm

Translation?

2004-02-16 Thread Bill Owens
Could someone here please translate this into English for me? It appears to be an Eastern European language. http://groups.msn.com/BillOwensPhotos/shoebox.msnw?action=ShowPhotoPhotoID=64 Thanks, Bill

istD BW

2004-02-16 Thread David Madsen
Has anyone been converting shots from the *istD to BW. I am interested to know how they look and what process was used. David Madsen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.davidmadsen.com

Re: LX envy

2004-02-16 Thread Peter Alling
Speaking of bad camera/shutter sound effects, I was watching some detective show with half an eye last night as I was working on my trusty computer. Well a character was using a SLR to take some photographs. The shutter noise was some sort of digital imitation of a motor drive. The camera

Lens Cleaning Problem

2004-02-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
I have a lens that seems to have some oily residue on the front element. I've tried Kodak lens cleaning solution and a microfiber cloth, but all i can do is push it around. I even tried a bit of window cleaner. That seemed to just make it worse. In the past I've always been able to clean a

Re: Do Smarter Cameras make Dumber Photogs?

2004-02-16 Thread Peter Alling
Things change fast in the digital world... At 01:08 PM 2/16/04, you wrote: Now, take all several dozens folks here who bought *istD. Obviously, the *istD is the *smartest* camera Pentax produced so far. Will it make them dumber? I doubt so very much. Sometimes I wonder if paying $1700 for a

Re: istD BW

2004-02-16 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi David ... I don't have an istd, but I can't imagine making a conversion from its files is any different than converting any color file to BW. Here are a couple of possibilities if you use Photoshop: http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/color2bw.html David Madsen wrote: Has anyone been

Re: LX envy

2004-02-16 Thread Steve Larson
That must have been funny. Most of the time when you see an eagle on TV they use a hawk cry instead, because eagles sound kind of puny. Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: Peter Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004

Re: Lens Cleaning Problem

2004-02-16 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Paul, A product I've used with GREAT results is ClearSight. I love the stuff! Even use it on my glasses and fine china LOL http://www.clearsightusa.com/ Paul Stenquist wrote: I have a lens that seems to have some oily residue on the front element. [...]. Does someone have a suggestion?

RE: February PUG feedback

2004-02-16 Thread P Kong
At 07:43 PM 2/16/2004, frank wrote: With coffee, Pat. Don't forget the coffee. But of course! What was I thinking??? ;o) Pat in SF

Re: LX envy

2004-02-16 Thread frank theriault
You got that straight, Cotty! I must admit, I've not heard either the winder or motor LX, but whenever I want to sound like a Pap, I snap off a few with the Winder MX. vbg Truth be told, I keep the winder on my MX most of the time - makes a great grip. But I almost never turn it on. Maybe

RE: OT War Photographer

2004-02-16 Thread frank theriault
I posted a reply yesterday, but near as I can figure, it never made it to the list: I saw a bio on Nachtway last year - likely the same one. His photos are amazing, and moving. More poignant was the suggestion that Nachtway is now unable to function in normal society, due to his many decades

Re: Lens Cleaning Problem

2004-02-16 Thread graywolf
R.O.R. (residual oil remover) from your camera store, or try rubbing alcohol. -- Paul Stenquist wrote: I have a lens that seems to have some oily residue on the front element. I've tried Kodak lens cleaning solution and a microfiber cloth, but all i can do is push it around. I even tried a bit

Re: *istD to black and white

2004-02-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Chris Subject: *istD to black and white Dave,I have converted several to BW from *istD colour shots'Although not to everyones liking(Frank;But what does he know?)I have been using the silver oxide app.filter in PS.Check These out:

Re: Do Smarter Cameras make Dumber Photogs?

2004-02-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Bruce Rubenstein Subject: Re: Do Smarter Cameras make Dumber Photogs? It's the wishful thinking of the masters of an arcane craft that the pcitures created by photographers who have started since the early 80's are inferior to older photographers. This is

*ist D

2004-02-16 Thread Shaun Canning
Well, I have finally taken the plunge. Ordered an *ist D, battery grip, and firewire card/reader yesterday! Can't wait to get my hands on this little critter... Cheers Shaun Dr. Shaun Canning Cultural Heritage Services Lawrence Way, Karratha, 6714 0414-967644 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Weekend photography objectives

2004-02-16 Thread P Kong
Busy life took a minor break this weekend (only to be interrupted by rain). Before the rain hit, I was able to head outside for a Valentine's Day of shooting. The objective was to finish a roll of film left in the body since shortly after Xmas and not to start another roll that I couldn't

Fw: Bird watching

2004-02-16 Thread Chris
- Original Message - From: Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 3:33 PM Subject: Bird watching Sorry about the hand truck Butch,but I thought it gave it a Back Stage kind of Feel.As to other annoyances,I suppose I got carried

Re: Do Smarter Cameras make Dumber Photogs?

2004-02-16 Thread George Sinos
Earlier Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a few things about various software Shel The PS Raw plug in is great, the only drawback is you need Photoshop CS, and CS requires Windows XP or one of the later Mac versions. I can't remember which. Good excuse to upgrade though. Asset

Re: Lens Cleaning Problem

2004-02-16 Thread Bob Blakely
LISTEN UP! HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY THIS? Use lamp black (or bone black). You should be able to get some at a good calligraphy store. Wrap lens tissue around the tip of a toothpick so that it forms a small ball. Touch it to the lamp black. USE THIS ONLY. Adding anything will only ruin the

Re: slide duplicator for *istD?

2004-02-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: William M Kane Subject: Re: slide duplicator for *istD? According to Boz's site: The auto bellows with slide copier A/M can achieve magnifications between 1.0 and 1.5. Now correct me if I'm wrong, this would be perfect . . . since the *ist D has a

Re: OT Re: Do Smarter Cameras make Dumber Photogs?

2004-02-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: John Mustarde Subject: Re: OT Re: Do Smarter Cameras make Dumber Photogs? Ethics question: if I had tried one more time to get the right change, would it have been suicidal, considering the angry mob in line behind me? Yes. They wanted in on the lottery

Re: Do Smarter Cameras make Dumber Photogs?

2004-02-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: frank theriault Subject: Re: Do Smarter Cameras make Dumber Photogs? But, it's nice to know what it is. So if I'm at a dinner party or something, and someone starts talking about AE L, I can blurt out things like, AE Lock? I don't need no stinking AE

Re: Lens Cleaning Problem

2004-02-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Bob Blakely Subject: Re: Lens Cleaning Problem LISTEN UP! HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY THIS? I think it's about once every 15 months. William Robb

Re: Do Smarter Cameras make Dumber Photogs?

2004-02-16 Thread David Mann
On Feb 17, 2004, at 09:32, Cotty wrote: You know when you drive down to the food supermarket, and negotiate the zillions of people bumping and banging around with there food shopping trolleys, thoughtlessly leaving them at odd angles so you can't get past, taking the skin off your ankles when

Re: Do Smarter Cameras make Dumber Photogs?

2004-02-16 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Bill, This is a great example, and it especially has meaning for me. Once or twice on this forum I've mentioned John Pezzenti. His claim to fame are the wonderful and exciting photos he's made of eagles over the years. While I don't know what equipment he's using now, just a few years ago it

Re: Do Smarter Cameras make Dumber Photogs?

2004-02-16 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Doug Herr's site is: http://www.wildlightphoto.com/ Many of his photos are posted with clickable links to the equipment he used. Lots of old, outdated gear LOL Shel Belinkoff wrote: Doug Herr, who frequents the Leica list, is out photographing birds here in Northern California using older

Re: *ist D

2004-02-16 Thread Bruce Dayton
Congratulations! It is always fun to get a new camera! This one is particularly fun to play with. I really like the grip. Have fun! -- Best regards, Bruce Tuesday, February 17, 2004, 7:25:03 AM, you wrote: SC Well, I have finally taken the plunge. Ordered an *ist D, battery grip, and SC

Re: Do Smarter Cameras make Dumber Photogs?

2004-02-16 Thread David Mann
On Feb 17, 2004, at 17:49, George Sinos wrote: The PS Raw plug in is great, the only drawback is you need Photoshop CS, and CS requires Windows XP or one of the later Mac versions. I can't remember which. Good excuse to upgrade though. Mac OS X 10.2.4 or higher, according to my box. The

Re: Weekend photography objectives

2004-02-16 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/16/2004 8:33:04 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For those of you in the area, both of these lighthouses have hostelling facilities. A great ocean view at a minuscule price. The Montara Light Station hostel feels very cozy quaintly charming. All in all,

Re: Lens Cleaning Problem

2004-02-16 Thread Alan Chan
Isn't it ammonia? Regards, Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan The Kodak fluid has a different smell than the isopropyl alcohol. Milder and mustier. _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*.

Re: Do Smarter Cameras make Dumber Photogs?

2004-02-16 Thread John Francis
With the greatest of respect, John, (That's code for I disagree very strongly with your statement vbg - as if you didn't already know) That's OK - it could have been With all due respect. In the same language, that's code for I disagree with you, and I think you're an idiot for even

Re: istD Comments on Leica Photo.net

2004-02-16 Thread John Francis
By the way, for those who aren't following this thread on the Leica forum, it's turned into quite a debate on the virtues of Pentax vs. C and N. Marc Williams took the tiff pic of my IIIc and blew it up to 20 x 24 using Fred Miranda's Step Interpolation program for the 1Ds. He ended up

Re: Dust and DSLR's

2004-02-16 Thread Leon Altoff
On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 10:20:30 -0800, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Read a few complaints about dusty sensors and their problems here. Seems to be a complaint in many venues. Is it a big problem or a minor annoyance for YOU? How do you deal with the dust problem? I had some spots that wouldn't come off

Re: Translation?

2004-02-16 Thread Horváth Krisztián Csaba
Hi there, Could someone here please translate this into English for me? It appears to be an Eastern European language. http://groups.msn.com/BillOwensPhotos/shoebox.msnw?action=ShowPhotoPhotoID= 64 It seems to be in Hungarian. Sorry, I can't help with translation. Regards, Lukasz

*ist D to BlackWhite

2004-02-16 Thread Chris
Those *istD to BW links should read as follows www.pbase.com/image/25410233 www.pbase.com/image/25410460 www.pbase.com/image/26125570 Thanks Chris Kennedy

Re: Translation?

2004-02-16 Thread Boros Attila
- Original Message - From: Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PDML [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 2004 February 17, Tuesday 04:21 Subject: Translation? Could someone here please translate this into English for me? It appears to be an Eastern European language.

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