Re: SV: New enablement

2005-11-26 Thread Vid Strpic
On Sat, Nov 26, 2005 at 08:56:18AM -0500, Fred wrote: > > At last, MZ-5n aka ZX5-n... a nice, light, autofocus body, which is > > actually pleasure to use. Loaded the first roll, and playing :) > > Congrats, Vid. It's a nice camera. One of the nicest , I believe. > Yes. It's the one I bought fo

Re: PESO - More Mom Hands

2005-11-26 Thread Paul Sorenson
My take was more like Marnie's - softer contrast. I just took the highlight down some on the left thumb which added a little more detail there so it's not so blown out. http://home.earthlink.net/~allaround6/images/handclasp2rev.jpg -P [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've actually done about

Re: UNSUBSCRIBING

2005-11-26 Thread P. J. Alling
And people have said I was mean... Mishka wrote: send a $100 check to every member of the list, and then we'll vote on whether to unsubscribe you or not. mishka On 11/26/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Please furnish exact instructions so I can UNSUBSCRIBE. Thank you, [EM

Re: Continued digest virus problems

2005-11-26 Thread P. J. Alling
I don't think it will help. Bernd Scheffler wrote: Got 133 digest-mails (!!!) for a time slice of 2 days, haven't counted how much I had to press OK for Norton Security killing viruses. I will logout for some days until the problem is corrected. Best, Bernd -original message---

Re: UNSUBSCRIBING

2005-11-26 Thread Christian
Just because you switched to Nikon doesn't mean you're getting out of here that easy! I've been using Canon DSLRs for 9 months now and still can't get the hell out of here! ;-) Christian - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 10:39 PM S

Re: Agfa - a sad day indeed

2005-11-26 Thread David Oswald
Glen wrote: At 02:15 PM 11/26/2005, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: Today, the lights have been switched on for good at Agfa's film coating plant in Leverkusen, Germany. In five weeks from now, Agfa will be no more. Ralf Is Agfa totally going out of business, or are they just getting out of f

Re: PESO: Everyone Needs a Grandma

2005-11-26 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Don and Joe. I don't know if I mentioned this before, but I'm really enjoying how digital has opened the door to available light color. In the past I almost always shot BW for indoor snaps so that color temperature wouldn't be a problem. Now, with RAW imaging, it's easy to dial right in

Re: UNSUBSCRIBING

2005-11-26 Thread David Savage
Sorry Scott (and everyone else) It caught me in the middle of scanning a whole heap of slides. Doesn't do my sense of humor/fun much good at all. Dave On 11/27/05, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks for ruining everyone's fun, Dave. > > On 11/26/05, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: PESO - More Mom Hands

2005-11-26 Thread Jack Davis
I used 'dark' only to produce contrast to enhance the lines of living. I feel the mid-range rendering reveals age, yet allows a degree of fragility. To me, the original softness partially masks the intent of the image. Jack --- Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think the dark, extrem

Re: UNSUBSCRIBING

2005-11-26 Thread Scott Loveless
Thanks for ruining everyone's fun, Dave. On 11/26/05, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Go to the exact same page that told you how to subscribe. Clear > instructions on unsubscribe can be found there. If you can't remember > how you managed that, read graywolf's mini FAQ. > >

Re: UNSUBSCRIBING

2005-11-26 Thread David Savage
Go to the exact same page that told you how to subscribe. Clear instructions on unsubscribe can be found there. If you can't remember how you managed that, read graywolf's mini FAQ. And it's not polite to shout. Dave On 11/27/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: PESO: Everyone Needs a Grandma

2005-11-26 Thread Joseph Tainter
Paul, your wife, grand-daughter, and the photo are all equally gorgeous. Thanks for sharing it. Don -- I'm with Don. Very nice, Paul. Joe

RE: PESO: Everyone Needs a Grandma

2005-11-26 Thread Don Sanderson
Paul, your wife, grand-daughter, and the photo are all equally gorgeous. Thanks for sharing it. Don > -Original Message- > From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 9:48 PM > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: PESO: Everyone Needs a Grandma >

Re: UNSUBSCRIBING

2005-11-26 Thread Mishka
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PESO: Everyone Needs a Grandma

2005-11-26 Thread Paul Stenquist
My wife and grand daughter, taken earlier today. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3908302 *istD, DA 16-45/4, f4.5@ 1/125, ISO 800

UNSUBSCRIBING

2005-11-26 Thread macburt
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Re: Lens availability on ebay

2005-11-26 Thread Mishka
i bought from them a couple of times, and one of the lenses i had to return (factory defects). they do accept returns w/o problems, with a caveat that you have to mail to russia (and the cost won't be refunded). best, mishka On 11/26/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Henry'

Re: OT: Language - Britian, England, or United Kingdom?

2005-11-26 Thread David Mann
On Nov 27, 2005, at 4:52 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 11/26/2005 7:39:30 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And remember that much of the world thinks of us as Etates Unidos, so the proper abbreviation would be EU, would it not? Bob = Not in URLs tho

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-26 Thread Bob Shell
On Nov 26, 2005, at 10:19 PM, David Mann wrote: The reason why digital was adopted so quickly by press photographers is that politicians don't leave an image on film. Nor reflections in mirrors. But you can always track them by the slime trails they leave. Bob

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-26 Thread David Mann
On Nov 27, 2005, at 1:57 AM, Bob Shell wrote: This explains why I refuse to photograph politicians. The reason why digital was adopted so quickly by press photographers is that politicians don't leave an image on film. - Dave

RE: My first PESO

2005-11-26 Thread Rob Studdert
On 26 Nov 2005 at 20:55, Bob W wrote: > 'Three years ago, David Bailey put out the word that he wanted naked people - > lots of them. Not nudes: nudes he was bored of. "All that worrying about poncy > lighting, making people look like landscapes or rocks," he says. "If I wanted > to > photograph

Re: pentax-discuss-d Digest V05 #3108

2005-11-26 Thread Rob Studdert
On 26 Nov 2005 at 21:59, Christian wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Banks have such a bad standing here that some of them run courses for > > their > > employees in order to coach them on how to appropriately reply to taunts and > > other ne

Re: pentax-discuss-d Digest V05 #3108

2005-11-26 Thread Christian
- Original Message - From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Banks have such a bad standing here that some of them run courses for their employees in order to coach them on how to appropriately reply to taunts and other negative comments when discussion turns to their employer in a s

Re: Agfa - a sad day indeed

2005-11-26 Thread David Mann
On Nov 27, 2005, at 10:25 AM, Bob Shell wrote: Agfa got out of that business years ago. They didn't make the scanners and such, anyway, just branded them. They got out of digital cameras, too. Maybe in hindsight those were bad decisions. I have an Agfa Arcus 1200 scanner which I think wa

Re: PESO - More Mom Hands

2005-11-26 Thread graywolf
Actually, I would like something in between but more to the oridginal side. Nice shot, Marnie. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 11/26/2005 4:13:11 PM Pacific Standard Time,

Re: DS, ISO 3200 - vertical lines?

2005-11-26 Thread Rob Studdert
On 26 Nov 2005 at 20:29, Igor Roshchin wrote: > > Hi All, > > I think I've seen somebody discussing this issue here on the list, > but couldn't find it now. > I've noticed this artefact: when shooting at ISO 3200 in the room > with tungsten light, there are vertical color lines appearing > in th

Re: Agfa - a sad day indeed

2005-11-26 Thread Joseph Tainter
So there is no more of the Agfa Ultra 100. Such a pity. But then I haven't shot any of it, or any other color film, in over two years. Joe

Re: PESO - More Mom Hands

2005-11-26 Thread Paul Stenquist
I think the dark, extreme contrast versions render the hands ugly. Since these are the hands of the photographer's mother, I would guess that the intent was to portray them as aged, but soft and gentle. These makeovers fail in that regard. Paul On Nov 26, 2005, at 8:42 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wro

Re: pentax-discuss-d Digest V05 #3108

2005-11-26 Thread Rob Studdert
On 26 Nov 2005 at 18:27, Peter Fairweather wrote: > They rang me about AOL talk, their phone system for the UK. I > explained I was moving but would look at details if they sent them. > Mistake!! > > They signed me up. One expensive phone call already to cancel. Every > time I log in there is a "

Re: PESO - More Mom Hands

2005-11-26 Thread Bob Shell
On Nov 26, 2005, at 6:44 PM, Cotty wrote: http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/handclasp.htm Marnie, I hope you don't mind. This would be my take on your pic: I'll remove it shortly. Of the two versions, I like Cotty's take on it m

Re: DS, ISO 3200 - vertical lines?

2005-11-26 Thread David Savage
As I understand it, it's caused by heat build up in the sensor. I notice it when I take a series of shots in quick succession. The first 2 or 3 will be fine, anything after that displays lines, as shown on the "Original Image" of this page:

Re: PESO - More Mom Hands

2005-11-26 Thread Kenneth Waller
Looks fine to me. My only nit is too much blank space on the RH side. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 6:11 PM Subject: PESO - More Mom Hands I've actually done about three sessions (maybe four, forget) of "Mom at 9

Re: PESO - More Mom Hands

2005-11-26 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 11/26/2005 5:16:56 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I tried to attach an image to your messageCotty, but of course, it was considered "enriched text" and didn't go. In the meantime, not being fully conscious, I sent the URL without an intelligible explanation.

Re: PESO - More Mom Hands

2005-11-26 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 11/26/2005 4:16:58 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Very nice. Well composed, good tonal gradation. If it's soft, that's not apparent in the web image. Paul Okey, dokey. Thanks, Paul. Marnie aka Doe

Re: PESO - More Mom Hands

2005-11-26 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 11/26/2005 4:13:11 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hmm. I like the original better, personally. I do too, but I might add a bit more contrast. Thanks for looking. Marnie aka Doe

DS, ISO 3200 - vertical lines?

2005-11-26 Thread Igor Roshchin
Hi All, I think I've seen somebody discussing this issue here on the list, but couldn't find it now. I've noticed this artefact: when shooting at ISO 3200 in the room with tungsten light, there are vertical color lines appearing in the image. In some cases those lines are more pronounced at certa

Re: PESO - More Mom Hands

2005-11-26 Thread Jack Davis
I tried to attach an image to your messageCotty, but of course, it was considered "enriched text" and didn't go. In the meantime, not being fully conscious, I sent the URL without an intelligible explanation. Sooo this may help to confuse things even more. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspuplo

Re: PESO - More Mom Hands

2005-11-26 Thread Jack Davis
Yeah - Yeah..I've a 90 year old brain..maybe? http;//photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=95 Jack __ Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

Re: OT: Language - Britian, England, or United Kingdom?

2005-11-26 Thread Mishka
similarily one could have asked US.= ??? So... US - America? best, mishka On 11/26/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is very OT, but it's an international list, so maybe someone can clarify > something for me. > > I've never been sure when one is supposed to use the word E

OT: Arno Minkkinen exhibition

2005-11-26 Thread Mishka
In Boston DeCordova museum is fantastic. I highly recommend to anyone who's in Boston area check it out. Best, Mishka

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-26 Thread graywolf
I have not seen all those magazines that have been mentioned. But the one I have has no advertising in it at all. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" --- Jostein wrote: From: "graywolf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Men are tool or

Re: PESO - More Mom Hands

2005-11-26 Thread Paul Stenquist
Very nice. Well composed, good tonal gradation. If it's soft, that's not apparent in the web image. Paul On Nov 26, 2005, at 6:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've actually done about three sessions (maybe four, forget) of "Mom at 90." In the second session, I didn't seem to have enough ambient

Re: PESO - More Mom Hands

2005-11-26 Thread E.R.N. Reed
Cotty wrote: On 26/11/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: This was taken eight to nine months ago. I think the thumb could be better. Not quite in focus, or maybe it is in focus, but it has too much high light. Anyway, it looks a little too soft to me. Maybe it could be ma

Re: PESO - More Mom Hands

2005-11-26 Thread Cotty
On 26/11/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: >Huh. Make it much much darker. Well, it doesn't look bad, I must admit. I also cloned out the small flare at left (?) and sharpened it up a bit. But of course, that's how I see shots like that, not how you see them. I was just illustra

Re: PESO - More Mom Hands

2005-11-26 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 11/26/2005 3:45:11 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'll remove it shortly. Cheers, Cotty = Huh. Make it much much darker. Well, it doesn't look bad, I must admit. Thanks, Cotty! Marnie aka Doe

Re: PESO - More Mom Hands

2005-11-26 Thread Cotty
On 26/11/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: >This was taken eight to nine months ago. > >I think the thumb could be better. Not quite in focus, or maybe it is in >focus, but it has too much high light. Anyway, it looks a little too >soft to me. >Maybe it could be masked or someth

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-26 Thread Jostein
From: "graywolf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Men are tool orietated. Most photography literature are tool orientated. Ever seen a photography magazine that did not have camera ads in it? www.cameranatura.se

Re: PESO - Queen St in the Snow

2005-11-26 Thread Gaurav Aggarwal
Great job! I like how you managed to capture the mood. Typically, the mood is lost because of flat lighting but this is just great. Gaurav On 11/25/05, Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/mawz/66670322/ > > > *istD, Tamron 28-75 f2.8 XR Di > > -Adam > >

PESO - More Mom Hands

2005-11-26 Thread Eactivist
I've actually done about three sessions (maybe four, forget) of "Mom at 90." In the second session, I didn't seem to have enough ambient light or something and didn't think I got anything useable. But I was looking through them recently and decided one or two weren't bad. (I downloaded Irfanvie

Re: Agfa - a sad day indeed

2005-11-26 Thread Scott Loveless
The PDML has been refreshingly devoid of the "I can't find any more Rodinal!" whiners. J and C Photo has an interesting little offer here: http://jandcphoto.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWCATS&Category=114 Looks like they may have the ability to order some more film, paper and chemicals at "special

RE: My first PESO

2005-11-26 Thread Markus Maurer
Hi Glen very interesting reading for me and I begin to wonder whether "ugliness" has been or could be a PUG theme. greetings Markus >> >>Once upon a time, my local camera club was trying to come up with monthly >>themes for their upcoming photo competitions. I suggested having an "ugly >>subject"

Re: Help required from a USA lister

2005-11-26 Thread Ann Sanfedele
keith_w wrote: > > Ann Sanfedele wrote: > > [...] > > > > drat I knew I should have been reading the list > > earlier :) > > > > achoo - annsan home with a cold > > A cold what? > > keith oy. ann

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-26 Thread Adam Maas
http://www.uandimag.com No ads. One issue so far. Pretty good -Adam Who knows the editor/publisher. Derby Chang wrote: Bob W wrote: -Original Message- From: graywolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 November 2005 20:17 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: My first PESO Me

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-26 Thread Adam Maas
That's essentially why I don't read most mags. Too much measurebating and '10 steps to instant success' articles. At this point, I read Black & White Photography (Tons of meaty process stuff, never more than 1 review, no idiots guides), B&W Magazine and Lenswork. That's about it, unless I want

Re: Agfa - a sad day indeed

2005-11-26 Thread Cotty
On 26/11/05, Ralf R. Radermacher, discombobulated, unleashed: >Today, the lights have been switched on for good at Agfa's film coating >plant in Leverkusen, Germany. So the lights will be on but nobody at home? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|h

Re: OK back to a standard subject

2005-11-26 Thread Christian
- Original Message - From: "graywolf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax Discussion Malling List" Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 3:01 PM Subject: OK back to a standard subject Beer! Anyone else tried that 1855 Miller Beer that is in the grocery stores now? I bought some thinking

Re: new 10-17mm fisheye

2005-11-26 Thread Peter Fairweather
The link is to the section on manuals. If you scroll down, there are 3 booklets on lenses which were only placed there in the last few days. Many of the lenses which seem to be discontinued are still there. Perhaps there is hope after all?! http://www.pentax.com/docstore/index.cfm?show=6 Peter >

Re: new 10-17mm fisheye

2005-11-26 Thread David Nelson
Thanks for the news, can we have a link to the booklet please? Cheers, David Peter Fairweather wrote: To all fellow LBA sufferers On the USA Pentax site there is downloadable booklet on DA lenses which has some details on the new fisheye Here is a comparison with the old one Fisheye Lens

Re: Agfa - a sad day indeed

2005-11-26 Thread Toralf Lund
Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: Toralf Lund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think were talking about Agfa Photo, which is more than film, but not everything that used to be Agfa. The original Agfa company is alive and well, as far as I can tell; Agfa Photo is (was) an independent company formed whe

Re: Agfa - a sad day indeed

2005-11-26 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Bob Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Agfa got out of that business years ago. They didn't make the > scanners and such, anyway, just branded them. They actually made some of the high-end models themselves. The rest came mainly from Microtek. > They got out of > digital cameras, too. Ma

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-26 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Nov 26, 2005, at 1:24 PM, Derby Chang wrote: Men are tool orietated. Most photography literature are tool orientated. Ever seen a photography magazine that did not have camera ads in it? www.foto8.com and (not only)Black+White Magazine. No camera ads, and lots of nekkid people. Le

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-26 Thread Derby Chang
Bob W wrote: -Original Message- From: graywolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 November 2005 20:17 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: My first PESO Men are tool orietated. Most photography literature are tool orientated. Ever seen a photography magazine that did not have ca

Re: Agfa - a sad day indeed

2005-11-26 Thread Bob Shell
On Nov 26, 2005, at 4:12 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Um, hmm. Agfa made some good scanners and such ... are they Agfa Photo products? I haven't used photographic film/paper/chemistry for a while now. ;-) Agfa got out of that business years ago. They didn't make the scanners and such, a

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-26 Thread Bob Shell
On Nov 26, 2005, at 4:14 PM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: "If I wanted to photograph a fucking rock, I'd photograph a fucking rock."' Easier said than done. Tried it once and when the stupid rock was at last in the right mood the light was gone. ;-) Oh no, not litho-porno!! Bob

Re: Agfa - a sad day indeed

2005-11-26 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Um, hmm. Agfa made some good scanners and such ... are they Agfa > Photo products? I haven't used photographic film/paper/chemistry for > a while now. ;-) They stopped making scanners years ago. Come to think of it, they even made (well, sold) Pen

Re: Agfa - a sad day indeed

2005-11-26 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Nov 26, 2005, at 1:08 PM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: Toralf Lund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think were talking about Agfa Photo, which is more than film, but not everything that used to be Agfa. The original Agfa company is alive and well, as far as I can tell; Agfa Photo is (was) an

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-26 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "If I > wanted to photograph a fucking rock, I'd photograph a fucking rock."' Easier said than done. Tried it once and when the stupid rock was at last in the right mood the light was gone. ;-) Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany

Re: OT: Language - Britian, England, or United Kingdom?

2005-11-26 Thread Toralf Lund
Bob W wrote: I suspect that quite a few users from Northern Ireland would disagree. While they live in the United Kingdom (of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, to give the full name), they would take exception to your suggesting that they live in Britain. Possibly, bu

Re: Agfa - a sad day indeed

2005-11-26 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Toralf Lund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think were talking about Agfa Photo, which is more than film, but not > everything that used to be Agfa. The original Agfa company is alive and > well, as far as I can tell; Agfa Photo is (was) an independent company > formed when former Agfa employees +

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-26 Thread Bob Shell
On Nov 26, 2005, at 3:55 PM, Bob W wrote: 'Three years ago, David Bailey put out the word that he wanted naked people - lots of them. Not nudes: nudes he was bored of. "All that worrying about poncy lighting, making people look like landscapes or rocks," he says. "If I wanted to photograp

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-26 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I like this guy. Godfrey On Nov 26, 2005, at 12:55 PM, Bob W wrote: 'Three years ago, David Bailey put out the word that he wanted naked people - lots of them. Not nudes: nudes he was bored of. "All that worrying about poncy lighting, making people look like landscapes or rocks," he says.

RE: OT: Language - Britian, England, or United Kingdom?

2005-11-26 Thread Bob W
> >I suspect that quite a few users from Northern Ireland would > >disagree. While they live in the United Kingdom (of Great > >Britain and Northern Ireland, to give the full name), they > would take > >exception to your suggesting that they live in Britain. > > > > > Possibly, but Ireland (a

Re: Continued digest virus problems

2005-11-26 Thread Bernd Scheffler
Got 133 digest-mails (!!!) for a time slice of 2 days, haven't counted how much I had to press OK for Norton Security killing viruses. I will logout for some days until the problem is corrected. Best, Bernd -original message--- Continued digest virus problems Brian Dipert Fri, 25

RE: My first PESO

2005-11-26 Thread Bob W
> >You realize that inference is, by definition, entirely on > the part of > >the observer, not the photographer. > > I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. > > What bugs me, is when an "outside" party (not the > photographer, not the model, not even the current viewer of > the photo

Re: new 10-17mm fisheye

2005-11-26 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
On 2005-11-26, at 19:20, Peter Fairweather wrote: To all fellow LBA sufferers On the USA Pentax site there is downloadable booklet on DA lenses which has some details on the new fisheye Seems that another lens from 2005/2006 roadmap is coming. I guess then that two new DA limited lenses and

Re: Agfa - a sad day indeed

2005-11-26 Thread Toralf Lund
Glen wrote: At 02:15 PM 11/26/2005, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: Today, the lights have been switched on for good at Agfa's film coating plant in Leverkusen, Germany. In five weeks from now, Agfa will be no more. Ralf Is Agfa totally going out of business, or are they just getting out of

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-26 Thread Bob Shell
On Nov 26, 2005, at 3:20 PM, Glen wrote: What bugs me, is when an "outside" party (not the photographer, not the model, not even the current viewer of the photo in question) make remarks that suggest there must be sexual stimulation, lust, etc, involved in taking or looking at photographs

Re: Agfa - a sad day indeed

2005-11-26 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Bob Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So I guess they won't be making Rodinal, Sistan, and such for > consumer darkrooms? Rodinal is back on their lists. Remains to be seen if they're just selling off existing stocks or if they'll be making it again. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9K

RE: My first PESO

2005-11-26 Thread Bob W
> -Original Message- > From: graywolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 26 November 2005 20:17 > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: My first PESO > > Men are tool orietated. Most photography literature are tool > orientated. > Ever seen a photography magazine that did not have c

Re: OT: Language - Britian, England, or United Kingdom?

2005-11-26 Thread Toralf Lund
John Francis wrote: On Sat, Nov 26, 2005 at 10:24:31AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 11/26/2005 7:17:55 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The United Kingdom (UK) is the nation state consisting of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. The wo

Re: Agfa - a sad day indeed

2005-11-26 Thread Bob Shell
On Nov 26, 2005, at 3:12 PM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: Do you know who that buyer is? It's a German company planning to provide service, spares, and chemicals for owners of Agfa minilabs. So I guess they won't be making Rodinal, Sistan, and such for consumer darkrooms? Too bad. It

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-26 Thread Bob Shell
On Nov 26, 2005, at 3:13 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: And this said, I still like looking at female nudes, even provocative ones. Me and Jimmy Carter occasionally have a little lust in our hearts. Okay, this is what bothers me about photography involving nudes. It's not the photographs, and i

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-26 Thread Glen
At 03:13 PM 11/26/2005, Mark Roberts wrote: Glen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >At 10:37 AM 11/26/2005, Bob Sullivan wrote: > >>And this said, I still like looking at female nudes, even provocative >>ones. Me and Jimmy Carter occasionally have a little lust in our >>hearts. > >Okay, this is what

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-26 Thread graywolf
Men are tool orietated. Most photography literature are tool orientated. Ever seen a photography magazine that did not have camera ads in it? Men talk about things, women talk about feelings. All you have to do is thumb through a womans magazine and you will see the difference. If you made you

Re: Agfa - a sad day indeed

2005-11-26 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Bob Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Do you know who that buyer is? It's a German company planning to provide service, spares, and chemicals for owners of Agfa minilabs. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de manual cameras

Re: Agfa - a sad day indeed

2005-11-26 Thread Derby Chang
Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: Today, the lights have been switched on for good at Agfa's film coating plant in Leverkusen, Germany. In five weeks from now, Agfa will be no more. Ralf I bought a few 5-packs of 120 Portrait yesterday. Last of the stock in the shop :( D -- [EMAIL PROTEC

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-26 Thread Mark Roberts
Glen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >At 10:37 AM 11/26/2005, Bob Sullivan wrote: > >>And this said, I still like looking at female nudes, even provocative >>ones. Me and Jimmy Carter occasionally have a little lust in our >>hearts. > >Okay, this is what bothers me about photography involving nudes. I

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-26 Thread Mark Roberts
"P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Filters don't know nothin' but they block everything. I remember a >rumor from about 5 years ago that Jpegs could carry >viruses, (no explanation of how they could operate or spread), That's because it *couldn't* operate or spread. I remember this viru

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-26 Thread Jostein
- Original Message - From: "Mark Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have no problems with biblical allusions (or illusions). I'm a Pastafarian: http://www.venganza.org/ ;-) They probably hold the most rational explanation what's inside flying saucers...:-) Jostein

OK back to a standard subject

2005-11-26 Thread graywolf
Beer! Anyone else tried that 1855 Miller Beer that is in the grocery stores now? I bought some thinking it would be like they made back then. While it is slightly more amber than the regular stuff, I can not tell any difference in the taste. Apparently it costs double to sell their beer in br

Re: Agfa - a sad day indeed

2005-11-26 Thread Bob Shell
On Nov 26, 2005, at 2:55 PM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: Sole exception: the photo chemicals division (some 60 of a total of 1200 jobs) has found a buyer. Do you know who that buyer is? Bob

Re: Agfa - a sad day indeed

2005-11-26 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Strangly the Agfa operating/sales operations in North America, (Canada, > US, and Mexico), don't seem to be going out of the film business, and > are even talking about expanding business. Wishful thinking? Pure > marketing? Who knows... The whole of

Re: Agfa - a sad day indeed

2005-11-26 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Glen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oh, I just noticed something in your post. Shouldn't that have read: > > "Today, the lights have been switched OFF for good..."? In a film coating plant, they go ON for good. :-( Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany private homepag

Re: Agfa - a sad day indeed

2005-11-26 Thread P. J. Alling
Strangly the Agfa operating/sales operations in North America, (Canada, US, and Mexico), don't seem to be going out of the film business, and are even talking about expanding business. Wishful thinking? Pure marketing? Who knows... Glen wrote: At 02:15 PM 11/26/2005, Ralf R. Radermacher w

RE: Language - Britian, England, or United Kingdom?

2005-11-26 Thread Bob W
Wales does not feature in the name 'United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland' because, as I mentioned in an earlier email, it was annexed into England several hundred years before the union of England and Scotland. By a Welshman, as it happens. -- Cheers, Bob > -Original Message

Re: Agfa - a sad day indeed

2005-11-26 Thread Glen
At 02:15 PM 11/26/2005, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: Today, the lights have been switched on for good at Agfa's film coating plant in Leverkusen, Germany. In five weeks from now, Agfa will be no more. Ralf Is Agfa totally going out of business, or are they just getting out of film? Oh, I ju

Agfa - a sad day indeed

2005-11-26 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Today, the lights have been switched on for good at Agfa's film coating plant in Leverkusen, Germany. In five weeks from now, Agfa will be no more. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de manual cameras and photo galleries - up

Re: Language - Britian, England, or United Kingdom?

2005-11-26 Thread John Francis
On Sat, Nov 26, 2005 at 03:28:48PM -, Bob W wrote: > Hi, > > UK is the United Kingdom, which is the name of the political entity > consisting of England, Scotland and Northern Ireland, so you must turn the > UK domain name into 'United Kingdom', however much like Middle Earth that > may seem.

Re: Language - Britian, England, or United Kingdom?

2005-11-26 Thread Bob Shell
On Nov 26, 2005, at 2:05 PM, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: UK is the United Kingdom, which is the name of the political entity consisting of England, Scotland and Northern Ireland, so you must turn the Wales? Yes, as in "Prince of" Kids here invariably get it wrong and say Prince of

Re: new 10-17mm fisheye

2005-11-26 Thread Peter Fairweather
No, in fact they say that an equivlaent conversion of the focal length is not possible > > The main difference is that it focusses a lot closer, so scope for > > dramatic effects should be good! Although I've just bought the old > > fisheye second hand, I'll be very tempted when this comes out. >

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