Re: Lens FOV - APS-C vs full frame vs 645D/Z

2017-03-29 Thread Darren Addy
APC wide angle: I love my Sigma EX 10-20mm f4-5.6. Probably have taken more memorable images on that, than any other lens. It is full frame down to about 15mm (with little vignetting) so I think it matches the widest rectaliner full frame film lens that Pentax ever made. Darren Addy Kearney, NE

Re: Lens FOV - APS-C vs full frame vs 645D/Z

2017-03-27 Thread Stanley Halpin
OK, wide angles. I remember back almost 20 years ago when I first bought a FA*24/2.0 and took it out for a test drive. First look through the viewfinder and I was blown away. At some point I bought an A-20/2.8 and wow. Once I got into the wonderful world of 1.5x digital, my early lenses were

Re: Lens FOV - APS-C vs full frame vs 645D/Z

2017-03-27 Thread P. J. Alling
Part of the lack of real wide angle with APS-C is a matter of the lenses you had. Judging from spreadsheet the widest was the DA 20-40. Now I'd prefer all Pentax lenses, but there are ultra wide angle lenses for APS-C from other manufactures. The Samyang 10mm f2.8 is ultrawide by any

Lens FOV - APS-C vs full frame vs 645D/Z

2017-03-27 Thread Stanley Halpin
Looking for something totally else, I came across this spreadsheet on my hard drive: a spreadsheet comparing the field of view of various lenses on each of these 3 Pentax systems: K-1, APS-C, and 645Z. No new information, nothing that most of us don’t already know about how various lenses

Re: 645d sales in the wake of the K-1 announcement

2016-03-13 Thread Stanley Halpin
Darren, I think you are assuming that the 645D is an older, lower cost, less featured, lower resolution medium format camera which cannot compare to the 645Z or the K-1. Well, maybe. But as you note, the CMOS vs CCD gives the 645D a big advantage for some. Does the added resolution, added live

Re: 645d sales in the wake of the K-1 announcement

2016-03-13 Thread Darren Addy
nty...@gmail.com> wrote: > I don't think that 645D is effected at all by the K-1. No one invested in > 645 lenses will be dropping the system because of a FF K mount, they'll be > getting a 645z, and if they do decide that they want 35mm performance and > think that they can only afford one sy

Re: 645d sales in the wake of the K-1 announcement

2016-03-13 Thread P.J. Alling
I don't think that 645D is effected at all by the K-1. No one invested in 645 lenses will be dropping the system because of a FF K mount, they'll be getting a 645z, and if they do decide that they want 35mm performance and think that they can only afford one system the Canon EOS 5Ds is a lot

645d sales in the wake of the K-1 announcement

2016-03-13 Thread Darren Addy
I expected the camera to be most affected by the K-1 announcement would be the 645d. (I'm interested to see IQ comparisons between the two once the K-1 is shipping). On the surface the K-1 would seem to have a LOT more going for it, features-wise, while the 645d maintains that larger sensor and 4

Re: FF exerting downward price pressure on the 645D?

2016-01-15 Thread Stanley Halpin
First, a minor quibble: 645D is 1st generation, 645Z is 2nd generation; you have it the other way around. But I think the main thrust of your discussion is mostly on target. I looked at the specs for the new Nikon $6500 camera, did a quick comparison with the 645Z. About the same size, about

Re: FF exerting downward price pressure on the 645D?

2016-01-15 Thread Darren Addy
I agree with your analysis (and of course, your correction). However, I will be very surprised if the Full Frame comes in at under $2500 (at least initially). We will soon see! On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 8:49 AM, Stanley Halpin <s...@stans-photography.info> wrote: > First, a minor quib

Re: FF exerting downward price pressure on the 645D?

2016-01-14 Thread Rick Womer
>>> and I love fisheye shots. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Rick >>> >>> On Jan 13, 2016, at 8:23 PM, Darren Addy wrote: >>> >>>> I find the price trend on the 645D to be interesting (if my empty >>>> pocketbook

Re: FF exerting downward price pressure on the 645D?

2016-01-14 Thread John
On 1/13/2016 8:23 PM, Darren Addy wrote: I find the price trend on the 645D to be interesting (if my empty pocketbook says I'm not quite tempted yet). It seems that there are more 645D on the market recently, and I it occurs to me that some are probably upgrading to the 645z and some

Re: FF exerting downward price pressure on the 645D?

2016-01-13 Thread Darren Addy
much distortion in the second, > and I love fisheye shots. > > Cheers, > > Rick > > On Jan 13, 2016, at 8:23 PM, Darren Addy wrote: > >> I find the price trend on the 645D to be interesting (if my empty >> pocketbook says I'm not quite tempted yet). It seems that t

FF exerting downward price pressure on the 645D?

2016-01-13 Thread Darren Addy
I find the price trend on the 645D to be interesting (if my empty pocketbook says I'm not quite tempted yet). It seems that there are more 645D on the market recently, and I it occurs to me that some are probably upgrading to the 645z and some are possibly selling in anticipation of getting

Re: FF exerting downward price pressure on the 645D?

2016-01-13 Thread Rick Womer
And here I expected something having to do with NYC (the Gotham of Batman). Both nice; but I prefer the first. A bit too much distortion in the second, and I love fisheye shots. Cheers, Rick On Jan 13, 2016, at 8:23 PM, Darren Addy wrote: > I find the price trend on the 6

Re: FF exerting downward price pressure on the 645D?

2016-01-13 Thread P.J. Alling
I really think that the downward price pressure on the 645D is more attributable to the 645z and Canon's mega monster pixel 5D variants than the promise of a Pentax K-FF. Medium format is a market segment of it's own. Fact is, that the Canon 5Ds is really a medium format substitute

Re: FF exerting downward price pressure on the 645D?

2016-01-13 Thread P.J. Alling
th NYC (the Gotham of Batman). Both nice; but I prefer the first. A bit too much distortion in the second, and I love fisheye shots. Cheers, Rick On Jan 13, 2016, at 8:23 PM, Darren Addy wrote: I find the price trend on the 645D to be interesting (if my empty pocketbook says I'm not quite tempt

You 645d or 645z owners may be interested in this...

2015-10-26 Thread Darren Addy
50mm SHIFT lens modified to fit Pentax 645 for sale (not mine): http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/24-photographic-equipment-sale/306637-sale-rare-mamiya-sekor-shift-c-1-4-50mm-custom-adapted-pentax-645-mount.html -- Life is too short to put up with bad bokeh. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Capture One 8 pro and Pentax 645d

2015-02-17 Thread Jens Bladt
Is it really true, that Capture One 8 pro can't handle Pentax 645D DNG-files? I can't seem to import them anymore, but I belive I could do so, when I ran the Capture One 7-version. I switched to Lightroom when I got the K-3, 'cause Capture One 6 pro wouldn't handele the DNG files. My problem

Re: Capture One 8 pro and Pentax 645d

2015-02-17 Thread Paul
Try running them through Adobe's DNG convertor and using the resultant files. -p On 2/17/2015 11:53 AM, Jens Bladt wrote: Is it really true, that Capture One 8 pro can't handle Pentax 645D DNG-files? I can't seem to import them anymore, but I belive I could do so, when I ran the Capture One 7

Re: Capture One 8 pro and Pentax 645d

2015-02-17 Thread P.J. Alling
as far as the Optics Pro 8.5 is concerned, at least you have hope that Capture One will correct the problem. On 2/17/2015 12:53 PM, Jens Bladt wrote: Is it really true, that Capture One 8 pro can't handle Pentax 645D DNG-files? I can't seem to import them anymore, but I belive I could do so, when

Re: 645D takes it's time

2015-02-01 Thread Eric Featherstone
On 1 February 2015 at 12:25, Jens Bladt p...@planfoto.dk wrote: Thank you Jostein. I made a small test. The time from pressing the shutter until an image shows is appr. 13 sec's. Turn off lens corrections in the menu. -- Eric -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: 645D takes it's time

2015-02-01 Thread Jens Bladt
on chimping in your workflow, I understand your frustration with the 645D. My cards are not as fast as yours, and get a time lag of about four and a half seconds. But saving to the card is just the second half of that time. The first half is data readout from the CCD to the camera's RAM

Re: 645D takes it's time

2015-02-01 Thread Jostein Øksne
-Opprinnelig melding- From: Jens Bladt Sent: Sunday, February 1, 2015 1:25 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: 645D takes it's time Thank you Jostein. I made a small test. The time from pressing the shutter until an image shows is appr. 13 sec's. I was using a 280MB/s card for the RAW

OT: Capture One Por 8 won't read 645D DNG's

2015-02-01 Thread Jens Bladt
When I first installed Capture One 8 Pro (8.0.1.1.16) I was happy: Now both my favorite cameras were supportet (files only): Pentax K-3 and Pentax 645D. Since the I have updated the 8 version to (8.1.0.200). Now CO pro 8 won't read my 645D files. Is there a way to convert the 645D DNG files

Re: 645D takes it's time

2015-02-01 Thread Jens Bladt
I didn't know of such a thing :-) Thanks Eric Den 01-02-2015 kl. 13:44 skrev Eric Featherstone: On 1 February 2015 at 12:25, Jens Bladt p...@planfoto.dk wrote: Thank you Jostein. I made a small test. The time from pressing the shutter until an image shows is appr. 13 sec's. Turn off lens

Re: OT: Capture One Por 8 won't read 645D DNG's

2015-02-01 Thread Jens Bladt
supportet (files only): Pentax K-3 and Pentax 645D. Since the I have updated the 8 version to (8.1.0.200). Now CO pro 8 won't read my 645D files. Is there a way to convert the 645D DNG files so that CO Por 8 can read them, please? I like CO Pro 8 very much, and I'd hate going back to Ligtroom again

645D takes it's time

2015-01-31 Thread Jens Bladt
Sometime ago I shot a lot of football players in a studie environment. I used my K-3 and the 645D. I quickly gave up on the 645D, because it too SO long for it to show an image just taken. Is this normal. Is ther a way arroud this - smaller JPEG's or faster SD cards? I use 280 mb/sec card

Re: 645D takes it's time

2015-01-31 Thread Jostein Øksne
Hi Jens, If you depend on chimping in your workflow, I understand your frustration with the 645D. My cards are not as fast as yours, and get a time lag of about four and a half seconds. But saving to the card is just the second half of that time. The first half is data readout from the CCD

Price drop on 645D

2014-08-26 Thread Stanley Halpin
http://www.shutterbug.com/content/medium-format-under-5k-pentax-sharply-drops-price-40mp-645d stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: Price drop on 645D

2014-08-26 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting Stanley Halpin s...@stans-photography.info: http://www.shutterbug.com/content/medium-format-under-5k-pentax-sharply-drops-price-40mp-645d Great!! Now if I get one it just costs the arm and I can keep the leg... -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters

Re: Price drop on 645D

2014-08-26 Thread P.J. Alling
-40mp-645d Great!! Now if I get one it just costs the arm and I can keep the leg... -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo

Re: Price drop on 645D

2014-08-26 Thread Stanley Halpin
could sell my car, and three more like it and have enough for the necessary computer upgrade as well... On 8/26/2014 5:52 PM, Brian Walters wrote: Quoting Stanley Halpin s...@stans-photography.info: http://www.shutterbug.com/content/medium-format-under-5k-pentax-sharply-drops-price-40mp-645d

Re: New 645D?

2014-04-04 Thread Darren Addy
More good signs that, under Ricoh, Pentax has a better marketing department than they did under Hoya. I thought it was really lame when they called it the 645D 2014 (which would be dated as soon as 2015 rolls around. That haD all the originality of Windows 98). I knew they just COULDN'T keep

New 645D?

2014-04-03 Thread Stanley Halpin
http://www.photographybay.com/2014/04/02/pentax-z-medium-format-camera-teaser/?awt_l=6EQhYawt_m=JsQjDsMesf62xu stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the

Re: In addition to the 1.4X TC and the new 645D...

2014-02-06 Thread Mark Roberts
David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote: On Feb 6, 2014, at 1:10 pm, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Film duplication accessory Model name (tentative):PENTAX Film Duplicator Produces digital duplicates of silver-halide-film images in combination with a digital SLR camera and a

New 645D to be announced

2014-02-05 Thread Mark Roberts
Uses a CMOS sensor is all they're saying. Almost certainly one of the new Sony ones. http://www.dpreview.com/news/2014/02/05/ricoh-promises-reference-products-including-cmos-645d-at-cp?utm_campaign=internal-linkutm_source=news-listutm_medium=textref=title_0_3 -- Mark Roberts - Photography

In addition to the 1.4X TC and the new 645D...

2014-02-05 Thread Darren Addy
Photo rumors is reporting: http://photorumors.com/2014/02/05/ricoh-wg-4-wg-20-pentax-1-4x-converter-announced-645d-2014-coming-next-week/#more-54352 Ultra-wide-angle zoom lens for use with the 645D Telephoto macro for the Q Film duplication accessory Model name (tentative):PENTAX Film

Re: New 645D to be announced

2014-02-05 Thread Darren Addy
the original 645D and better AF also. I won't be terribly surprised if it lists for more than the original 645D did also. It would still look like a bargain compared to the Hassy and PhaseOne options using the same sensor. On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 5:39 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com

Re: New 645D to be announced

2014-02-05 Thread Miserere
Some photos of the new 645D here: http://photorumors.com/2014/02/05/new-pentax-645d-medium-format-camera-pictures-and-some-rumors/ And also of Pentax's film duplicator, which seems like a bizarre product to release in the year 2014. Cheers, --M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com

Re: New 645D to be announced

2014-02-05 Thread Larry Colen
It's Pentax's implementation of full frame digital. On February 5, 2014 8:50:38 PM PST, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: Some photos of the new 645D here: http://photorumors.com/2014/02/05/new-pentax-645d-medium-format-camera-pictures-and-some-rumors/ And also of Pentax's film duplicator

Re: In addition to the 1.4X TC and the new 645D...

2014-02-05 Thread David Mann
On Feb 6, 2014, at 1:10 pm, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Film duplication accessory Model name (tentative):PENTAX Film Duplicator Produces digital duplicates of silver-halide-film images in combination with a digital SLR camera and a dedicated flash unit. Compatible with 35mm-

FS Friday: Our last Pentax 645D kit with AF 55mm f2.8 SDM

2013-04-05 Thread Chris Brogden
First off, thanks (and congrats!) to the PDMLer who bought a 645D kit from us. You're going to have a lot of fun with it. :) Now I have one left. Same as before, it has very few actuations on it. It's an open-box new camera, which means it's been taken out of the box to show customers

RE: FS Friday: Pentax 645D with AF 55mm f2.8 SDM lens

2013-03-25 Thread Chris Brogden
23, 2013 6:40 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: FS Friday: Pentax 645D with AF 55mm f2.8 SDM lens I bought a winder for my MX off of him years ago. The MX is dead, but the winder still winds! At 11:27 PM + 3/23/13, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Chris! I think I bought

Re: FS Friday: Pentax 645D with AF 55mm f2.8 SDM lens

2013-03-23 Thread Bill
On 22/03/2013 9:26 AM, Chris Brogden wrote: Hi, everyone. Old-timers may remember me from back in the day when Pentax ran the list and the grass was at least +3 saturation greener. I remember you as Ronaldo Bomfim. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

RE: FS Friday: Pentax 645D with AF 55mm f2.8 SDM lens

2013-03-23 Thread Chris Brogden
-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bill Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 3:14 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: FS Friday: Pentax 645D with AF 55mm f2.8 SDM lens On 22/03/2013 9:26 AM, Chris Brogden wrote: Hi, everyone. Old-timers may remember me from back in the day when Pentax ran

RE: FS Friday: Pentax 645D with AF 55mm f2.8 SDM lens

2013-03-23 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Hey Chris! I think I bought something from you once. Maybe an LX? Nice to see you again! cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Chris Brogden cbrog...@donsphoto.ca Sent: March 22, 2013 3/22/13 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: FS Friday: Pentax 645D with AF 55mm f2.8

RE: FS Friday: Pentax 645D with AF 55mm f2.8 SDM lens

2013-03-23 Thread Steve Sharpe
I bought a winder for my MX off of him years ago. The MX is dead, but the winder still winds! At 11:27 PM + 3/23/13, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Chris! I think I bought something from you once. Maybe an LX? Nice to see you again! cheers, frank -- Steve Sharpe d...@eastlink.ca

Re: FS Friday: Pentax 645D with AF 55mm f2.8 SDM lens

2013-03-23 Thread Paul Stenquist
the street from St. Vital Centre) Winnipeg, MB R2M 5M3 Ph: (204) 254-9075 Fax: (204) 253-7173 -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bill Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 3:14 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: FS Friday: Pentax 645D with AF

FS Friday: Pentax 645D with AF 55mm f2.8 SDM lens

2013-03-22 Thread Chris Brogden
on the Oregon Coast) mailed me a few slides he had shot. The tonal range and beautiful colours blew me away, and it wasn't long before I got my own 67II. To the point: we brought in several 645D bodies from Pentax, and have sold all of them except for our last two shelf models. These have been taken out

Re: Red 645D

2013-01-11 Thread P. J. Alling
I'm just shocked that your local camera store has Pentax. On 1/11/2013 10:58 AM, Bryan Jacoby wrote: I was in my local camera store the other day, and to my amazement they had a limited edition 645D with the (outrageously expensive) red paint job on display. I never expected to see one

Re: Red 645D

2013-01-11 Thread Walt
I'm calling Myth Busters. Something tells me that 645D is a lot like the Bigfoot that turned out to be a gorilla costume crammed full of roadkill and stuffed in a deep freeze. -- Walt On 1/11/2013 10:03 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: I'm just shocked that your local camera store has Pentax. On 1

Re: Red 645D

2013-01-11 Thread Bryan Jacoby
It's a pretty amazing store (especially since it's in Ashburn, VA, which is not exactly like Manhattan). Last time I was there they had a plain old black 645D, but I never expected to see a red one. In another case they had a silver K-5, DA* 55, 16-50, and 50-135's, some 645 lens, a K-30, an a K

Re: Red 645D

2013-01-11 Thread Larry Colen
On Jan 11, 2013, at 8:40 AM, Bryan Jacoby wrote: It's a pretty amazing store (especially since it's in Ashburn, VA, which is not exactly like Manhattan). Last time I was there they had a plain old black 645D, but I never expected to see a red one. What's the name of this store? -- Larry

Re: Red 645D

2013-01-11 Thread P. J. Alling
Planning on a pilgrimage? On 1/11/2013 12:50 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Jan 11, 2013, at 8:40 AM, Bryan Jacoby wrote: It's a pretty amazing store (especially since it's in Ashburn, VA, which is not exactly like Manhattan). Last time I was there they had a plain old black 645D, but I never

Re: Red 645D

2013-01-11 Thread Walt
On 1/11/2013 11:50 AM, Larry Colen wrote: On Jan 11, 2013, at 8:40 AM, Bryan Jacoby wrote: It's a pretty amazing store (especially since it's in Ashburn, VA, which is not exactly like Manhattan). Last time I was there they had a plain old black 645D, but I never expected to see a red one

Re: Red 645D

2013-01-11 Thread Bryan Jacoby
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: I'm betting it's Ace Photo: http://acephoto.net/contact.aspx Yep. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above

Re: Red 645D

2013-01-11 Thread jsessoms002
From: P. J. Alling On 1/11/2013 10:58 AM, Bryan Jacoby wrote: I was in my local camera store the other day, and to my amazement they had a limited edition 645D with the (outrageously expensive) red paint job on display. I never expected to see one of those in the flesh. If you have

RE: Pentax 645D IR

2012-12-17 Thread Bob W
, frank --- Original Message --- From: AlunFoto - Jostein Øksne p...@alunfoto.no Sent: December 14, 2012 12/14/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: Pentax 645D IR J.C.O. is entirely right. Once superseded by another model, the 645D will stop taking pictures on any

RE: Pentax 645D IR

2012-12-17 Thread Krisjanis Linkevics
the ice-loving peoples of the world are one of Pentax's largest markets, Frank. I'm surprised you don't know that. Just last year alone sales reached nearly double figures, and there's rumoured to be a special edition coming out that smells of herring. B We have a few days of -20 to -30

RE: Pentax 645D IR

2012-12-16 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
- Jostein Øksne p...@alunfoto.no Sent: December 14, 2012 12/14/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: Pentax 645D IR J.C.O. is entirely right. Once superseded by another model, the 645D will stop taking pictures on any ISO other than 140, force JPG format, and introduce a lag

Re: Pentax 645D IR

2012-12-15 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Dec 14, 2012, at 09:23 , William Robb wrote: Pentax set themselves up to fail in this regard some 25 years ago when they decided to become the budget brand. They set themselves up as a brand that no one would spend real money on. It's probably got a lot to do with why you bought into

Re: Pentax 645D IR

2012-12-15 Thread Tom C
From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com DxOMark gives sensor in the D800E with an overall rating of 96 for quality, and the Pentax 645D an 82. The Nikon has an effective EV range of over 14 stops the Pentax about 12. The Nikon has a 36.3mp sensor with linear values of 7360x4912, which

Re: Pentax 645D IR

2012-12-15 Thread David Parsons
Photographers that want to shoot MFD are going to use MFD, not FF 35mm. It doesn't matter that the D800 has a similar number of pixels. The DoF is different, handling is different, sensor performance is different. Having held and looked through a D700 (close enough to a D800) and a 645D

Re: Pentax 645D IR

2012-12-15 Thread Larry Colen
through a D700 (close enough to a D800) and a 645D, they are nothing alike. You'd never want to pick one over the other without actually using them. Deciding only based on specs is foolhardy. Buying a camera based only on specifications is like marrying someone based only on their height

Re: Pentax 645D IR

2012-12-15 Thread Tom C
enough to a D800) and a 645D, they are nothing alike. You'd never want to pick one over the other without actually using them. Deciding only based on specs is foolhardy. I suppose there will always be a reason for MF digital, and given that sensor technology and usable resolution continue

Re: Pentax 645D IR

2012-12-15 Thread Stan Halpin
On Dec 15, 2012, at 3:27 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Dec 15, 2012, at 11:25 AM, David Parsons wrote: ... Deciding only based on specs is foolhardy. Buying a camera based only on specifications is like marrying someone based only on their height, weight and hair color. Sometimes the

Re: Pentax 645D IR

2012-12-15 Thread P. J. Alling
On 12/15/2012 4:34 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: On Dec 15, 2012, at 3:27 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Dec 15, 2012, at 11:25 AM, David Parsons wrote: ... Deciding only based on specs is foolhardy. Buying a camera based only on specifications is like marrying someone based only on their height,

Re: Pentax 645D IR

2012-12-15 Thread Stan Halpin
On Dec 15, 2012, at 4:39 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: On 12/15/2012 4:34 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: On Dec 15, 2012, at 3:27 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Dec 15, 2012, at 11:25 AM, David Parsons wrote: ... Deciding only based on specs is foolhardy. Buying a camera based only on specifications is

RE: Pentax 645D IR

2012-12-14 Thread AlunFoto - Jostein Øksne
J.C.O. is entirely right. Once superseded by another model, the 645D will stop taking pictures on any ISO other than 140, force JPG format, and introduce a lag of 30 seconds before writing exposures to card. During that lag, you will see a message on the chimp screen explaining what you have

Re: Pentax 645D IR

2012-12-14 Thread Rob Studdert
On 13 December 2012 18:26, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote: Looks like it is: http://www.pentaxforums.com/news/pentax-645d-ir-announced.html It's December, not April? :( -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter

Re: Pentax 645D IR

2012-12-14 Thread Anthony Farr
way possible. regards, Anthony On 14 December 2012 19:09, AlunFoto - Jostein Øksne p...@alunfoto.no wrote: J.C.O. is entirely right. Once superseded by another model, the 645D will stop taking pictures on any ISO other than 140, force JPG format, and introduce a lag of 30 seconds before

Re: Pentax 645D IR

2012-12-14 Thread William Robb
On 13/12/2012 11:25 PM, Tom C wrote: From: William Robb anotherdrunken...@gmail.com On 13/12/2012 11:57 AM, J.C. O'Connell wrote: And presto, you have a $10K obsolete piece o crap original 645D. How is it obsolete? I don't think they stop working when another camera comes out, and when

Re: Pentax 645D IR

2012-12-14 Thread George Sinos
, 2012 at 8:38 AM, William Robb anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 13/12/2012 11:25 PM, Tom C wrote: From: William Robb anotherdrunken...@gmail.com On 13/12/2012 11:57 AM, J.C. O'Connell wrote: And presto, you have a $10K obsolete piece o crap original 645D. How is it obsolete? I don't

Re: Pentax 645D IR

2012-12-14 Thread Tom C
From: Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com Just a reminder: The odds may be long that you will beat Tom, but nominations for PDML Troll of the Year are still open until Dec. 31st. It's a shame when that word's misused to label one's who simply

Re: Pentax 645D IR

2012-12-14 Thread Tom C
From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com Tom, your recent Pentax is dead post may not have been meant as a troll, which I guess just shows your prowess when you can do that good of a job without even trying. In retrospect it was an emotional expedient exaggeration influenced by a Canadian

Re: Pentax 645D IR

2012-12-14 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: In retrospect it was an emotional expedient exaggeration influenced by a Canadian beverage which shall remain nameless. You gotta lay off the poutine smoothies. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Pentax 645D IR

2012-12-14 Thread Tom C
viewfinder. :) One of the differences between the two cameras that's obvious is the price/performance ratio. The price of a 645D pretty much puts it out of most people's reach, and if not their reach, it's costly enough that it's hard to justify. At 1/3 of that, a D800/E is still a costly item, but is down

Re: Pentax 645D IR

2012-12-14 Thread Walt
, bright, spacious and a joy to look through, but I don't hear complaints about the K-5 viewfinder. :) One of the differences between the two cameras that's obvious is the price/performance ratio. The price of a 645D pretty much puts it out of most people's reach, and if not their reach, it's costly

RE: Pentax 645D IR

2012-12-14 Thread John Sessoms
This looks like it's going to be fun. I probably should make popcorn before I settle in. From: AlunFoto - Jostein ?ksne J.C.O. is entirely right. Once superseded by another model, the 645D will stop taking pictures on any ISO other than 140, force JPG format, and introduce a lag of 30 seconds

Re: Pentax 645D IR

2012-12-14 Thread William Robb
ratio. The price of a 645D pretty much puts it out of most people's reach, and if not their reach, it's costly enough that it's hard to justify. At 1/3 of that, a D800/E is still a costly item, but is down in a range where many more people are willing and able to spend the money. One could easily say

Re: Pentax 645D IR

2012-12-14 Thread Mark Roberts
William Robb wrote: I don't bother to complain any more, but it's pretty much a given that APS-C sized viewfinders suck bunny bums. Quote of the year. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Pentax 645D IR

2012-12-14 Thread John Sessoms
From: William Robb Possibly Pentax should have been a bit more down to earth and spent their RD money on a FF system that far more people would be interested in obtaining. With the 645D, even most Pentaxophiles give it simply a cursory glance because it's more or less unattainable. It wouldn't

Re: Pentax 645D IR

2012-12-14 Thread Darren Addy
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 1:57 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: Wouldn't bother me. With only a very few exceptions all of my lenses are either DG (i.e. full frame digital) or legacy film lenses that already cover 24x36 mm. Yep, yep. What John said. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: Pentax 645D IR

2012-12-14 Thread P. J. Alling
DxOMark gives sensor in the D800E with an overall rating of 96 for quality, and the Pentax 645D an 82. The Nikon has an effective EV range of over 14 stops the Pentax about 12. The Nikon has a 36.3mp sensor with linear values of 7360x4912, which gives a 300dpi print size without undue

Re: Pentax 645D IR

2012-12-14 Thread Rob Studdert
design hasn't transmogrified since the early days I am pretty sure that I would prefer the D800 finder over the 645D finder information overload or not. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax

Re: Pentax 645D IR

2012-12-14 Thread Tom C
From: Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com In retrospect it was an emotional expedient exaggeration influenced by a Canadian beverage which shall remain nameless. You gotta lay off the poutine smoothies. That's way over my head Matthew. I know it has something to do with french fries in a blender.

Re: Pentax 645D IR

2012-12-13 Thread Christine Nielsen
(Ok, I'll start...) Just when I thought things couldn't get any more niche-y than a Q, a K-01, or a $10k camera... ;) -c On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 2:26 AM, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote: Looks like it is: http://www.pentaxforums.com/news/pentax-645d-ir-announced.html -- PDML

Re: Pentax 645D IR

2012-12-13 Thread Darren Addy
, or a $10k camera... ;) -c On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 2:26 AM, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote: Looks like it is: http://www.pentaxforums.com/news/pentax-645d-ir-announced.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Pentax 645D IR

2012-12-13 Thread Christine Nielsen
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Re: Pentax 645D IR

2012-12-13 Thread David J Brooks
Nice, but my Hoya R72 is cheaper:-) Dave On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 2:26 AM, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote: Looks like it is: http://www.pentaxforums.com/news/pentax-645d-ir-announced.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo

Re: Pentax 645D IR

2012-12-13 Thread P. J. Alling
Unfortunatly this doesn't address the main problem, The Nikon D800 pretty much equals the image quality of low end medium format DSLRs in a 35mm body format. Pentax Ricoh needs to announce a higher resolution improved image quality upgrade to the 645d real soon now. On 12/13/2012 2:26 AM

RE: Pentax 645D IR

2012-12-13 Thread J.C. O'Connell
And presto, you have a $10K obsolete piece o crap original 645D. - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of P. J. Alling Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 12:53 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: Pentax 645D IR

2012-12-13 Thread Tom C
From: J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net And presto, you have a $10K obsolete piece o crap original 645D. -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of P. J. Alling Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 12:53 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re

Re: Pentax 645D IR

2012-12-13 Thread Darren Addy
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: From: J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net And presto, you have a $10K obsolete piece o crap original 645D. -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of P. J. Alling Sent: Thursday, December

Re: Pentax 645D IR

2012-12-13 Thread Bob Sullivan
LOL On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 12:46 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: From: J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net And presto, you have a $10K obsolete piece o crap original 645D. -Original Message- From: PDML

Re: Pentax 645D IR

2012-12-13 Thread Tom C
From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: From: J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net And presto, you have a $10K obsolete piece o crap original 645D. -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf

Re: Pentax 645D IR

2012-12-13 Thread Tom C
, Dec 13, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: From: J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net And presto, you have a $10K obsolete piece o crap original 645D. -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of P. J. Alling Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012

Re: Pentax 645D IR

2012-12-13 Thread Stan Halpin
On Dec 13, 2012, at 3:55 PM, Tom C wrote: From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com Just a reminder: The odds may be long that you will beat Tom, but nominations for PDML Troll of the Year are still open until Dec. 31st. It's a shame when that word's misused to label one's who simply don't

Re: Pentax 645D IR

2012-12-13 Thread Christine Aguila
All around--the whole thread--too funny! :-) Cheers, Christine On Dec 13, 2012, at 3:29 PM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: On Dec 13, 2012, at 3:55 PM, Tom C wrote: From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com Just a reminder: The odds may be long that you will beat Tom,

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