On 10/21/2010 3:14 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:
Better than the average on this list, but then Brooks tends to drag that
down a bit.
On 10/20/2010 2:13 PM, Bob W wrote:
Actually Boris your English is very ambitious and you can generally
put together complex sentences better than perhaps the majority
Hell, my typing alone can do that.
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:11 AM, Jerry in Arizona wrote:
> Fear not, Boris. Even native born speakers here are known to butcher the
> language. I think you do very well.
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> Jerry
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Better than the average on this list, but then Brooks tends to drag that
down a bit.
On 10/20/2010 2:13 PM, Bob W wrote:
Actually Boris your English is very ambitious and you can generally put
together complex sentences better than perhaps the majority of native English
speakers.
Bob
Of co
Actually Boris your English is very ambitious and you can generally put
together complex sentences better than perhaps the majority of native English
speakers.
Bob
>
> Of course not. I know that my English is easily recognized as that of a
> foreign
> man and I welcome any correction as far a
Fear not, Boris. Even native born speakers here are known to butcher the
language. I think you do very well.
Jerry
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Of course not. I know that my English is easily recognized as that of a
foreign man and I welcome any correction as f
Cesar has a MZ-S?
Snake-skinned? :-)
Sincerely,
Collin Brendemuehl
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Of course not. I know that my English is easily recognized as that of a
foreign man and I welcome any correction as far as I can understand it,
adopt it and use it. I even wrote specific request for corrections on
the front page of my blog, but likely because my blog is not read by too
many peopl
> > буржуазия
> > Жизнь господина де Мольера
> >
> > בורגנות
> >
> > ;o)
>
> You got it right, Bob... Well done!
>
of course!
I hope you don't think I was criticising your English. You yourself pointed out
your difficulty with a very complex sentence construction, and I offered a
version whi
On 10/19/2010 9:48 PM, Bob W wrote:
буржуазия
Жизнь господина де Мольера
בורגנות
;o)
You got it right, Bob... Well done!
Boris
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I do own an MZ-S, my second most favorite camera - next to the LX :-)
- the PZ1-P I have is the one that used to belong to Hugh Morton. I got
it at Grandfather Mountain after his death...
Talking about camera feel and such...
Funny thing is that when the PZ1-P came out I ended up at a camera
On 2010-10-19 15:29, Jens wrote:
I like to think of the MZ-S as the last Pentax film camera, even though it
wasn´t really. I still use my MZ-S once in a while. I shot 10 films this
summer. It's a very nice camera. Lovely balanced too. I sold my first one, but
to finance myd *ist D. But I ended
> >> Bob, personally I don't care about curves of which car my camera is
> >> resebmlant of...
> >
> > You write like a fine bourgeois gentleman, Boris!
> >
> > "MAÎTRE DE PHILOSOPHIE.- On les peut mettre premièrement comme
> vous
> > avez
> > dit: Belle Marquise, vos beaux yeux me font mourir d'am
I like to think of the MZ-S as the last Pentax film camera, even though it
wasn´t really. I still use my MZ-S once in a while. I shot 10 films this
summer. It's a very nice camera. Lovely balanced too. I sold my first one, but
to finance myd *ist D. But I ended up regretting this nad bought anno
Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message -
From: "Bob Sullivan"
Subject: Re: Film and cameras
Dave,
The MZ-S with battery grip has the curves of a Ferrarri versus
the Z-1p with battery and grip strap has the lines of a Ford.
Rega
On Oct 19, 2010, at 9:34 AM, Bob W wrote:
>> On 10/19/2010 4:12 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
>>> Dave,
>>> The MZ-S with battery grip has the curves of a Ferrarri versus the
>>> Z-1p with battery and grip strap has the lines of a Ford.
>>> Regards, Bob S.
>>
>> Bob, personally I don't care about curv
> On 10/19/2010 4:12 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
> > Dave,
> > The MZ-S with battery grip has the curves of a Ferrarri versus the
> > Z-1p with battery and grip strap has the lines of a Ford.
> > Regards, Bob S.
>
> Bob, personally I don't care about curves of which car my camera is
> resebmlant of...
On 10/19/2010 4:12 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
Dave,
The MZ-S with battery grip has the curves of a Ferrarri versus
the Z-1p with battery and grip strap has the lines of a Ford.
Regards, Bob S.
Bob, personally I don't care about curves of which car my camera is
resebmlant of... Gosh, what a senten
Dave,
The MZ-S with battery grip has the curves of a Ferrarri versus
the Z-1p with battery and grip strap has the lines of a Ford.
Regards, Bob S.
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 2:55 AM, David Mann wrote:
> On Oct 19, 2010, at 5:07 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote:
>
>> The big ergonomic plus of the MZ-S for
On Oct 19, 2010, at 5:07 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote:
> The big ergonomic plus of the MZ-S for me was the the way that flat
> body-grip combo fit in my hand. I suppose that is the same thing Bob
> was alluding to.
I don't think I've ever held an MZ-S but I did find the Z-1p handled
exceptionall
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 01:28:41PM -0400, Steven Desjardins wrote:
> Sensitivity wasn't (a) problem with the MZ-S ;-)
I did actually change the sensitivity on my MZ-S a couple of times.
(Well, more than a couple of times in total, but rarely mid-roll).
The auto film loading was good enough (aft
Sensitivity wasn't problem with the MZ-S ;-) I can understand where
someone might light the wheels i just wasn't one of them. I usually
had my aperture set and let the body take care of shutter speed. I
would occasionally need adjustment but never enough for anything to
becomes a reflex. I gue
Simple. You pick he aperture ahead of time. If the telephoto is
fairly sharp wide open that's the aperture you're most likely to use
anyway. You need the fastest shutter speed available as long lenses are
of necessity slower if they're reasonably handy anyway.
How did anyone get good photo
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 12:07:23PM -0400, Steven Desjardins wrote:
> I never really noticed the open wheel thing on the MZ-S because I
> always used the aperture ring. As a matter of fact, I never (at the
> time) got why anyone would want to use a body-based wheel for that.
> Now I understand but
Personally I found the MZ/ZX-3/5/5n to have awful ergonomics (I've
owned the MZ-3, MZ-5n and ZX-m, sold all three quite quickly). They
were to a great extent a poor cross between the classic UI and a
cheap, modern plastic body. The PZ-1p was far better, as were the
older classic-UI bodies.
-Adam
I never really noticed the open wheel thing on the MZ-S because I
always used the aperture ring. As a matter of fact, I never (at the
time) got why anyone would want to use a body-based wheel for that.
Now I understand but i'm really not convinced that it's that big an
upgrade. I know you can rem
It's a very personal thing. Ever since the PZ cameras came out,
Pentax users have been split between those who like the aperture
controls on the lens and those who like the controls on the body.
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 10:33:06AM -0400, Igor Roshchin wrote:
>
> It was ZX-5n (MZ-5n in Europe) th
It was ZX-5n (MZ-5n in Europe) that brought me to Pentax, -
thanks to its ergonomic design - with the aperture ring
and shutter speed knob that could be controlled while blindfolded.
(no wheel crap that Nikons had).
Interestingly, I had ~90% success rate of shooting "from the hip"
with ZX-5n, <5
This (the MZ-D) was when DSLRs cost $5000-6000. When the *istD came
out, it was about $1500 IIRC. I think Pentax may have made a real
impact if their DSLR had cost $2500, but that price was probably out
of the question with that sensor. I can't remember what other sensors
were out then. Kodak?
Yes and no... If the sensor had been any good, Pentax would have been way ahead
with a 24x36 digital SLR right from the start.
BUT...
Let's face it, the user interface of the MZ-S isn't nearly as good as that of
the PZ-1, 1p, ist D, K10, etc. For some reason they had forgotten about the
two-w
BTW, I always wondered how things might have gone if that sensor
hadn't been such a bust (or they had chosen another sensor) and this
camera had been produced. I can hardly blame Pentax for not making it
since the company that went ahead with their version (Contax) has a
horrible failure on their
That's what I meant, although I did say it badly. I meant we could
have had the same ergonomics in both cameras since the MZ-S and grip
was basis the Pentax digital camera with the Phillips 6 MP FF sensor.
Here are lots of pics fro those who weren't looking at Pentax 9 years
ago:
According to Wi
John,
I still shoot film, but not the little stuff.
Except this weekend I decided to shoot some PanF
and got my son's Super Program. Just to compare things.
And now I am off to the darkroom.
Sincerely,
Collin Brendemuehl
"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lo
On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 01:08:48PM +, drd1...@gmail.com wrote:
> The funny thing is that the MZ-S was supposed to be a digital camera.
No - the MZ-S was supposed to be the top-of-the-MZ-line Pentax film body.
I presume you're thinking of the first planned Pentax digital camera
(often referred
For me it's the Maxxum 7, not the MZ-S. For some reason I've just
never really gelled with the Pentax 35mm film camera's (the LX came
the closest, followed by the PZ-1p).
The funny thing is that the K-7 is one camera I love the ergonomics
on. IMHO it's FAR better than any of the Pentax 35mm film c
I "discovered" the MZ-S a couple of years after I'd already decided
that film was dead. It was a lovely design and might have held me in
film for another couple of years, but it was already too late to get
one and enjoy it. I tried that with an MX and sold it after a year and
a half having only put
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Subject: Film and cameras
Like many of you, I have film in the freezer.
I've put some in cameras to see if I could use a bit up.
Today, two cameras rode with me in my van,
the K-7 and the MZ-S, both on the floor behind me.
I could reach around and grab either one.
> The MZ-S with battery grip virtually lept into my hand.
In the mid 80s (way, way back) I was doing some retail work.
My principle for selling cameras was to first have the person
hold the cameras and pick the one that felt most comfortable.
Strange as it may sound, people seemed to gravitate tow
On 10/17/2010 5:37 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
That film camera, how it feels, how it fits the hand, how it sounds...Wow.
I really miss all that.
I should say that certain Pentax MX camera that I have now amazes me
just as well. It has all the features necessary and nothing redundant.
It screams
Film is just something different.
I tried to go back to digital, I just couldn't ... didn't make me feel
the same way film does.
That MZ-S, I always wanted one of those. Surprised now to find them
still going for $800-900. Can't believe they've held their value that
well.
~Nick
http://www.nickda
This is just cruel.
-- Walt
On 10/16/2010 10:41 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:
On 17 October 2010 14:37, Bob Sullivan wrote:
That film camera, how it feels, how it fits the hand, how it sounds...Wow.
I really miss all that.
Regards, Bob S.
When Igor was out I shot with both my Leica M4 and LX,
On 17 October 2010 14:37, Bob Sullivan wrote:
> That film camera, how it feels, how it fits the hand, how it sounds...Wow.
> I really miss all that.
> Regards, Bob S.
When Igor was out I shot with both my Leica M4 and LX, by the end of
the day the M4 felt quite comfortable again, the LX immedia
Like many of you, I have film in the freezer.
I've put some in cameras to see if I could use a bit up.
Today, two cameras rode with me in my van,
the K-7 and the MZ-S, both on the floor behind me.
I could reach around and grab either one.
What surprised me was the feel of the film camera.
The K-7
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