On Friday, March 8, 2002, at 12:01 AM, T Rittenhouse wrote:
>> For me, even a reliable method would be nice. I often find the
>> 6x7 a very difficult camera to load. Some backing paper is much
>> more slick than others, and the loading system is pretty
>> unforgiving.
I had trouble loading my 6
Shouldn't there be a "twirl" at the end there somewhere (for Seinfeld
diehards only).
Darryn Richter
Adelaide Australia
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> Interesting and useful information, Fred. I haven't though of glueing down
> the damn button, but I keep telling myself I am going to take the damn thing
> apart and fix it so it won't lock.
Maybe ~that~ is the better way to fix the "stuck in Auto" nuisance.
Super glue works OK, but you do hav
nt: Thursday, March 07, 2002 11:44 PM
Subject: Re: Re[6]: ME super film take up spool
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> From: Bruce Dayton
> Subject: Re[6]: ME super film take up spool
>
>
> > William,
> >
> > Quick is the operative word there. It would be hand
,
Graywolf
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From: Chris Brogden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 11:27 PM
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ourse, what ever works for you is
> best for you, but I did it your way for years before I figured out the
> way I now do it.
>
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From: Bruce Dayton
Subject: Re[6]: ME super film take up spool
> William,
>
> Quick is the operative word there. It would be handy to be
able to
> change the film as fast as a 35mm.
It would be glorious to be able to do that. Unfortunatley, I
think tha
ywolfphoto
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 10:58 PM
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> > Well, I just tried with Freds little trick, and with practice I
> > think it will
On Thu, 7 Mar 2002, T Rittenhouse wrote:
> Shel, it does. If you insert the leader first you keep tension on the
> film holding it on the sprockets while inserting the cassette. The
> other way does not and quit often the film pops out while you are
> trying to wind in onto the spool. I did it th
> Well, I just tried with Freds little trick, and with practice I
> think it will be quicker because you don't have to release the
> shutter until after you close the back.
When you have to frequently load (and also unload) film while trying
to keep your balance while holding on with one hand (as
William,
Quick is the operative word there. It would be handy to be able to
change the film as fast as a 35mm.
Bruce Dayton
Thursday, March 07, 2002, 4:06:59 PM, you wrote:
WR> The LX has Magic Noodles.
WR> Now, if I could just find a quick and reliable way to load the
WR> 6x7.
W
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From: Bruce Dayton
Subject: Re[4]: ME super film take up spool
> Bill,
>
> This has certainly been a good learning experience for me. To
think
> how many years I have dealt with magic needles the slow,
fiddley way!
> No more! I almost want to bu
Thursday, March 07, 2002, 2:27:20 PM, you wrote:
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WR> From: Bruce Dayton
WR> Subject: Re[2]: ME super film take up spool
>> Bob,
>>
>> It certainly sounds like I load about the same as you. I
WR> never really
>> thought of it as gre
l.
TR> Ciao,
TR> Graywolf
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Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 5:27 PM
Subject: Re: Re[2]: ME super film take up spool
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> From: Bruce Dayton
> Subject: Re[2]: M
ay, March 07, 2002 4:55 PM
Subject: Re: ME super film take up spool
> > Sounds slow. I did it like that for years. Now I have learned to push
the
> > end of the film in the fingers, crank it until the top sprocket catchs a
> > couple of holes, insert the cassette in the chamber, c
This may seem like an old and re-tread discussion about magic needles, but I have to
say thanks. I really appreciate the discussion and will try to change my film loading
habits. Thanks to all for taking the time to give me some insights in to where I
might be going wrong.
Regards, Bob S.
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From: Bruce Dayton
Subject: Re[2]: ME super film take up spool
> Bob,
>
> It certainly sounds like I load about the same as you. I
never really
> thought of it as greed, but I don't pull extra slack out. The
> description that everyone gives
"Magic Needles"...isn't that the name of a band?
Seriously though...if you want to load film in a camera with the magic
needles (not all bad) try this:
After you open the back of the camera cradle it in your left hand (the lens
would be pointing into your palm) with the door toward you.
Take th
> I've had four ME Super bodies, four LX, and two MX bodies (and
> still have most of them), and, FWIW, I've not noticed any
> difference between them. They all load as easily (or as difficult
> - your choice) as one another, and there's been no misloading
> problems on any of them.
I find that
> Sounds slow. I did it like that for years. Now I have learned to push the
> end of the film in the fingers, crank it until the top sprocket catchs a
> couple of holes, insert the cassette in the chamber, close the back, and
> wind on to zero. Takes five seconds flat. And since I started doing it
t/graywolfphoto
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Subject: Re: ME super film take up spool
> Bruce,
>
> I suspect the fault is with us and not the magic needles. I have
occasional problems with ALL my
Subject: Re: ME super film take up spool
> It probably doesn't matter much whether the cartridge goes in first or
> the leader is attached first. What's important is that you are careful,
> take your time, and make sure the film is securely attached and properly
> advancing
06, 2002 11:59 PM
Subject: Re[2]: ME super film take up spool
> On Wed, 6 Mar 2002, Bruce Dayton wrote:
>
> > I would be curious to know if all who have found the magic needles to
> > work well, load like Shel and all who have had problems with it load
> > like me.
&
You shouldn't have to pull that much film out of the canister. Just enough
to engage
both sprockets. One of the times I miss-loaded I didn't pay attention to
that, just pulled
out the used film stuffed the leader of the new film into the 'Fingers' and
slammed the
back shut. Missed the pictur
You need an assistant. Maybe you can get one of your kids to help out
Bruce Dayton wrote:
> Many times I am in a hurry - wedding timing or
> whatnot and I just find magic needles to be bothersome.
>
> Perhaps I
> need some "magic fingers" to work those magic needles.
--
Shel Belinkoff
mailt
Bob,
It certainly sounds like I load about the same as you. I never really
thought of it as greed, but I don't pull extra slack out. The
description that everyone gives seems rather slow to load. That could
be one of my problems. Many times I am in a hurry - wedding timing or
whatnot and I ju
Thanks to all who responded. I can see that techniques vary greatly. The
bottom line is that I have to be careful next time in loading the film and
to make sure that the film really catches on the spool before closing the
camera back.
Francis
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It probably doesn't matter much whether the cartridge goes in first or
the leader is attached first. What's important is that you are careful,
take your time, and make sure the film is securely attached and properly
advancing before going of to make that once-in-a-lifetime photo.
Fred wrote:
>
> Never ever a problem with magic needles. And I always put
> cartridge first. In fact, I love m. needles, I think it's a great
> Pentax innovation in manual loading.
I also love the magic needles. I've been happily using them since
my first ME Super about 20 years ago, and I've only had one fil
ke-up spool that the leader can slip out
quite easily.
This usually works very well for me in all types of cameras,
especially older ones.
Joe
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>Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 20:27:38 -0800
>From: Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re[2]: ME super film take up spool
>
>I
Hi, Bruce:
MEEE! Never ever a problem with magic needles. And I always put cartridge
first.
In fact, I love m. needles, I think it's a great Pentax innovation in
manual loading.
Regards
AG
Bruce D. wrote:
I would be curious to know if all who have found the magic needles to
work well, load l
On Wednesday, March 6, 2002, at 11:27 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote:
>
> Anybody out there have/had no problems ever with magic needles and put
> the cartridge in first?
In my life I've misloaded twice, once in my first ME Super and once in
my LX, and I load cartridge first for the most part.
-Aaron
>Whenever my Magic Needles fail to hold on to the film, it's because I
>didn't let out enough slack. You have to give the takeup spool a good 8 or
>10 inches of slack to wind to ensure that it has enough grip not to let
>go. By the way, I let out 10 inches, place the cartridge in, the thread
>
I have only had my Super Program for about 1 month,
3 rolls trough it so far,and no problem,yet.I use the
cannister in first,advance at least twice,close and tighten
film in cannister,abit,then keep an eye on the rewind knob.
As long as the first couple go through ok,i think the rest
SHOULD be ok,
At 02:56 7-3-2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Subject: Re[2]: ME super film take up spool
>
>I would be curious to know if all who have found the magic needles to
>work well, load like Shel and all who have had problems with it load
>like me.
>
>Anybody out there have/had no pro
> On Wed, 6 Mar 2002, Bruce Dayton wrote:
>
> > I would be curious to know if all who have found the magic needles to
> > work well, load like Shel and all who have had problems with it load
> > like me.
> >
> > Anybody out there have/had no problems ever with magic needles and put
> > the cartrid
Chris,
Oh, way to go! Screw up my theory will ya?
Bruce Dayton
Wednesday, March 06, 2002, 8:59:41 PM, you wrote:
CB> On Wed, 6 Mar 2002, Bruce Dayton wrote:
>> I would be curious to know if all who have found the magic needles to
>> work well, load like Shel and all who have had problems
Magic Needles aren't all that magical.
I don't use Shel's loading method.
I'm right handed and set the canister in the camera
and pull the film across the shutter and jam it into the 'Magic Needles'.
Then, I wind it some and watch for it to fall out of the 'Magic Needles'.
This happens all too of
It's nice to know that I'm not the only person who doesn't like the "magic
fingers". As far as loading, as a lot of others have said once getting the
film in the fingers I advance until the top of the film is on the take up
reel then rewind lightly to taught the film, close the back, and advance
2
After loading old Leicas for a while, you'd welcome "magic needles" and
you'd never complain again .
Is it storming where you are, Bruce? I just saw an ark with a boatload
of animals float past the office window .
Bruce Dayton wrote:
>
> Shel,
>
> Interesting technique. Sounds like it would
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From: Shel Belinkoff
Subject: Re: ME Super film take up spool
> This is verrry interrrestink ... I've never had a misload with
the
> "magic needles" but I'm also careful to make sure everything
is just
> right ...
What is more inters
On 6 Mar 2002 at 17:40, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Interesting to hear about the "magic needles". Over the years I've
> probably shot in excess of 3,000 rolls through my ME, which has been
> retired to a back-up role for my new ZX-5N. I think I lost or missed
> the take up roll on only one occa
I have to agree I much preferred the old fashioned takeup spool on my
Spotmatic.
At 01:58 PM 3/6/2002 -0800, you wrote:
>Clive,
>
>I'd venture to say that more people have had trouble with those
>squirrely "Magic Needles" than they currently do with the MZ
>autoloading. I have done both for many
Magic Needles.
At 02:13 PM 3/6/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> > What is the best way to avoid film from releasing it's grip on the take up
> > spool?
>
>I generally run through about three or four frames - up to 2 or 3 on the
>counter - before I start making photographs. Doesn't always work though.
>
>
[Francis asked how to keep film from losing its grip on the take up
spool.]
Well, in 18 years with my ME Super, this hasn't happened to me. My
technique is to push the leader firmly into the 'magic needles' on the
far (outer) side of the take-up spool, and to give the winder two full
cranks befo
]
Subject: ME Super film take up spool
Hi guys,
What is the best way to avoid film from releasing it's grip on the
take up
spool?
I loaded infrared film for our photo class project and was happily
walking
around a park taking pictures when I noticed that the film rewind knob
wasn't ro
> What is the best way to avoid film from releasing it's grip on the take up
> spool?
I generally run through about three or four frames - up to 2 or 3 on the
counter - before I start making photographs. Doesn't always work though.
> I loaded infrared film for our photo class project and was hap
Hi guys,
What is the best way to avoid film from releasing it's grip on the take up
spool?
I loaded infrared film for our photo class project and was happily walking
around a park taking pictures when I noticed that the film rewind knob
wasn't rotating. I had already shot about 10 or 11 frames
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