First MZ-S hands on

2001-08-25 Thread David S.
Love that sloping top panel & it seems much smaller & lighter then my Zp-1. Guess I probably get one sometime in 2002. David S. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Galle

RE: MZ-S Hands on..

2001-06-06 Thread Gianfranco Irlanda
Joseph Tainter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So, does anyknow know if there are problems running IR through a PZ-1p? > I haven't tried IR since the 60s, but keep thinking it might be fun. > > Joe Hi Joe, I've run three or four rolls of Ektachrome Infrared through my 1p last year and everything wa

RE: MZ-S Hands on..

2001-06-06 Thread Matamoros, Cesar A.
, César > -Original Message- > From: tom [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 2:33 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: MZ-S Hands on.. > > "Matamoros, Cesar A." wrote: > > > > Thanks Tom! > >

Re: MZ-S Hands on..

2001-06-06 Thread tom
"Matamoros, Cesar A." wrote: > > Thanks Tom! > > As if it wasn't bad enough that I am starting to get anxious about > getting my MZ-S, now I had to be reminded about how great it felt to handle > the camera. I am also envious since the rep did not have the grip when I > saw it. The cam

RE: MZ-S Hands on..

2001-06-06 Thread Matamoros, Cesar A.
os II Panama City, Florida > -Original Message- > From: tom [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 6:07 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: MZ-S Hands on.. > > Pål Jensen wrote: > > > > Rob wrote: > > &

RE: MZ-S Hands on..

2001-06-06 Thread Joseph Tainter
So, does anyknow know if there are problems running IR through a PZ-1p? I haven't tried IR since the 60s, but keep thinking it might be fun. Joe - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pen

Re: MZ-S Hands on..

2001-06-05 Thread tom
Pål Jensen wrote: > > Rob wrote: > > >The biggest reason for the MZ-S is build quality although > > recently there have been some doubts about the sealing of the MZ-S too. > > AF performance is reportedly also miles ahead of anything Pentax have produced >previously... I got to use one for a

Re: MZ-S Hands on..

2001-06-05 Thread Aaron Reynolds
Rob Brigham wrote: > This thing about IR film is new though! I am a bit unhappy about this. > I suppose it is not really a problem as it wont be often, but I wanted > to start experimenting with IR B&W and it seems a shame that here is yet > another niggle with a Camera which I really have to

Re: MZ-S hands on: Magnesium body shell

2001-02-23 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Cute ... but did you know that Pentax made a spy camera that would actually shoot a .22 round? Dan Scott wrote: > Texdance wrote: > >The upgrade to the Pentax 928 is the Pentax 357 Mag(nesium). Only > >takes one shot to get the job done. The viewfinder focus point looks > >like a bullseye. May

Re: MZ-S hands on: Magnesium body shell

2001-02-23 Thread Dan Scott
Texdance wrote: >The upgrade to the Pentax 928 is the Pentax 357 Mag(nesium). Only >takes one shot to get the job done. The viewfinder focus point looks >like a bullseye. May not be effective if the subject is wearing a >Spotmatic around the neck. >-- >Happy Trails, >Texdance >http://members.fort

Re: MZ-S hands on: Magnesium body shell

2001-02-23 Thread Ed Mathews
I apologize for butting into a thread which I have admittedly not been following, but the reason I've not followed it is because I simply find it absurd to even imagine that Pentax or any other manufacturer (Nikon and the F100), would make a body out of something that is in any way, less than sati

Re: MZ-S hands on: Magnesium body shell

2001-02-23 Thread Mark Roberts
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >RUN Pål, LX owners gonna kick the peanuts out of your M&Ms! Never heard that expression before...but I really like it! - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the P

RE: MZ-S hands on: Magnesium body shell

2001-02-23 Thread Alan Chan
>I haven't read about people dying in the Kyocera factory because >of titanium, so I assume people with the technology to do the >job have overcome the problem, if there actually is one. I >believe that Pentax may have made Titanium bodies in the past, >too. The Ginsu knife factory is using tita

Re: MZ-S hands on: Magnesium body shell

2001-02-23 Thread John Mustarde
On Fri, 23 Feb 2001 09:23:57 +, you wrote: > >"Thixomolding injection method" > The ink used in many printing presses becomes less fluid (more solid, higher viscosity) when it sits still. After stirring, it loses a lot of viscosity and becomes more fluid. "Thixotropic" is the adjective to de

Re: MZ-S hands on: Magnesium body shell

2001-02-23 Thread Tom Rittenhouse
Ok, I have gotten confirmation that the top, bottom, and front covers a definitely mag alloy. Opinion: I would guess that it is actually an aluminum-magnesium alloy probably only 20% or so mag. That would be far more corrosive resistant than if the mix was the other way around and stronger, but

Re: MZ-S hands on: Magnesium body shell

2001-02-23 Thread Pål Jensen
Erwin wrote: > Now I have no idea on how the MZ-S is constructed, but I can imagine a super > rigid frame consisting of nothing but the top cover, bottom cover and some > thick and complicated central part, that at the same time doubles up as the > front cover. We've already heard that a Pentax

Re: MZ-S hands on: Magnesium body shell

2001-02-23 Thread Erwin Vereecken
Hi, Mike Wilson said: >I still think the whole question revolves around financial >matters, which should come as no suprise to us. Besides the financial matters, I like the idea of a thick lightweight metal more then a thinner heavyweight metal. As you probably know, if you make something twice

Re: MZ-S hands on: Magnesium body shell

2001-02-23 Thread Ken Archer
Don't take your magnesium camera around salt air or saltwater. I dropped a Volkswagen dune buggy into a tidal pool once and the next day the transmission case started feeling a little spongy and looked like honeycomb...nasty combination. On Fri, 23 Feb 2001, you wrote: > mike wilson wrote: > >

Re: MZ-S hands on: Magnesium body shell

2001-02-23 Thread mike wilson
Hi, Paul S. said: "the magnesium (which was hard anodized) seemed impervious" Exactly my point. It was the anodising which was stopping the Magnesium reacting not only with the fuel, but the general atmosphere. Look at the same parts nowadays and they will be too damaged for further use, espec

Re: MZ-S hands on: Magnesium body shell

2001-02-23 Thread PAUL STENQUIST
mike wilson wrote: > Just because it lasts for a 24hour race or a five second > drag does not confer the type of durability we are talking about > here. I was a drag racing mechanic/engine builder in the early to mid seventies. My engines all had magnesium alloy intake manifolds and supercharg

RE: MZ-S hands on: Magnesium body shell

2001-02-23 Thread Len Paris
anium, as well. :-) Len --- > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Alan Chan > Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 8:59 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: MZ-S hands on: Magnesium body shell > > > >I c

Re: MZ-S hands on: Magnesium body shell

2001-02-23 Thread D. Glenn Arthur Jr.
Mike Wilson wrote: > Peter Alling said: > > "some high performance engines are made of Magnesium/Aluminum > alloy" > > Racing engines, maybe. "Consumer units" would not last long > enough for the owner to think thay were getting value for > money. A great many of the old Volkswagen Beetles a

Re: MZ-S hands on: Magnesium body shell

2001-02-23 Thread mike wilson
Hi, Paal wrote: "Thixomolding injection method" That sounds interesting, although I have no idea how that would work - maybe similarly to the sintering method of part production, but using some sort of binder? Anyone any idea? I did actually think of a reason for using Magnesium (I am assumin

Re: MZ-S hands on: Magnesium body shell

2001-02-22 Thread Alan Chan
>Magnesium body shell makes the MZ-S a definite no-no for me. >Magnesium is one of the most reactive of metals. The reason it >is covered with some form of coating is that it would corrode to >nothing within a year otherwise. This is unlike Aluminium which >is _so_ reactive it seals itself with

Re: MZ-S hands on: Magnesium body shell

2001-02-22 Thread Pål Jensen
Mike wrote: > My conclusion is that the reason Magnesium (or an alloy of it) > was used for this purpose is purely for cost. It is > comparatively cheap to cast thin sections with these alloys. Ralf (Engelman) posted the following on the X-star forum. I repost it here since its relevant in th

RE: MZ-S hands on!

2001-02-21 Thread Jens Bladt
Hi The largest Digital P&S Nikons (900 something) are also maganesium. It's difficult to tell it's not plastic! Jens -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]På; vegne af Tom Rittenhouse Sendt: 21. februar 2001 18:21 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Also MZ-S hands on

2001-02-21 Thread Bill Owens
I also got to take a quick hands on with the MZ-S yesterday. Didn't spend much time with it but I was impressed. As far as the continuing thread on the metal content, I quote from the Pentax brochure: "The major components of the MZ-S's body housing, such as top, bottom and front panels and a fl

Re: Also MZ-S hands on

2001-02-21 Thread Paul C
How about AF noise? Was it any quieter? thanks, -paul >From: "Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Also MZ-S hands on >Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 21:27:25 -0500 > > > > > OK Bill, s

Re: Also MZ-S hands on

2001-02-21 Thread Bill Owens
> OK Bill, so not "You're it!" > What were your impressions of the viewfinder and the AF? > > Thanks, > Ed I didn't pay much attention to the area of the viewfinder, but the brightness was about what you would expect. Satisfactory but not great. I thought the autofocus was very quick and the

Re: Also MZ-S hands on

2001-02-21 Thread Dan Scott
Bill, You could always do it in sections. Dan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >I'll try and scan the brochure, but since it's much larger than my flatbed >scanner bed I may not be able to. If I can I'll let everyone know > >Bill, KG4LOV >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > - This message is from the Pentax-Discu

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2001-02-21 Thread Ed Mathews
OK Bill, so not "You're it!" What were your impressions of the viewfinder and the AF? Thanks, Ed - Original Message - From: "Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 8:38 PM Subject: Also MZ-S hands on

Re: MZ-S hands on!

2001-02-21 Thread Tom Rittenhouse
Matjaz OSOJNIK wrote: > > > Tom wrote: > > Wow guys, I got to fondle the MZ-S today. The rep who told me I > > was wrong about the A35/1.4, called me and said he was in town > > and did I want to see the new camera. Four speeding tickets > > later (figuratively speaking) I had it in my hands.

Re: MZ-S hands on!

2001-02-21 Thread Tom Rittenhouse
"Arne Lie (f)" wrote: > > Tom, > > You have so far not answered: how noisy is it? The shutter, the motor (I > mean winder...)? About the same as a Canon EOS 3 I would estimate. In other words quite quiet for a MD/AF camera. > > What about AF accuracy and responsiveness: is it hunting? Did y

Re: MZ-S hands on!

2001-02-21 Thread SudaMafud
In a message dated 2/21/01 1:22:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << It could be some kind of tough coating on die cast. >> Probably a PENTAX variation of the now ubiquitous "powder" coating being applied to nearly every bare metal surface. Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL

RE: MZ-S hands on!

2001-02-21 Thread Lewis, Gerald
uch better thermal transmission properties. What do you think those "super modern polymers are? Plastics -Original Message- From: Tom Rittenhouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 11:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MZ-S hands on! Darren &a

Re: MZ-S hands on (DOF preview)!

2001-02-21 Thread Tom Rittenhouse
Hey, when you press the button the lenses stops down. I did not try the electronic DOF if it even has one, but would imagine it works like the ZX-5n. Paul Jones wrote: > > How good is a electronic DOF preview is comparison to the standard > mechanical type like on the Super Program and LX? -

Re: MZ-S hands on!

2001-02-21 Thread Tom Rittenhouse
As I have stated previously, no I am not sure. I was going by the texture of the top plate. It could be some kind of tough coating on die cast. The spec sheet definately states the top and bottom plate are diecast magnesium. The camera does feel very solid. As I answered in a previous message

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2001-02-21 Thread Pål Jensen
Tom wrote: "Feels nice and solid. The exterior is plastic but he swears that the frame is magnesium. It is about the same size as the Z1p." REPLY: These statements are strange. Are you sure? The press releases clearly state that outer body is magnesium; in fact they make issue of it. My Pent

Re: MZ-S hands on!

2001-02-21 Thread Matjaz OSOJNIK
> I wrote: > Congrats. I does fell good, doesn't it? :) Should be: Congrats. It does fell good, doesn't it? :) Sorry, Matjaz Matjaz Osojnik, B.Sc.M.E. Hajdrihova 4, IBE, d.d., 1000 Ljubljana Slovenia Europe - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.

Re: MZ-S hands on!

2001-02-21 Thread Matjaz OSOJNIK
> Tom wrote: > Wow guys, I got to fondle the MZ-S today. The rep who told me I > was wrong about the A35/1.4, called me and said he was in town > and did I want to see the new camera. Four speeding tickets > later (figuratively speaking) I had it in my hands. > Feels nice and solid. Congrats.

Re: MZ-S hands on (DOF preview)!

2001-02-21 Thread Alan Chan
>How good is a electronic DOF preview is comparison to the standard >mechanical type like on the Super Program and LX? I'd say better than the mechanical one because it works even the lens was set to 'A'. regards, Alan Chan __

Re: MZ-S hands on!

2001-02-21 Thread Arne Lie \(f\)
into Av mode *without* setting the lens off-A position? Did you find out the role of the Hold Switch? Arnie - Original Message - From: "Tom Rittenhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax Discussion Malling List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 21,

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2001-02-20 Thread Darren & Tara Sutherland
n or fully operational production model? Darren PS. Tom, what exactly did your rep tell you about the A35 f1.4? I think I missed that post. -Original Message- From: Tom Rittenhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Pentax Discussion Malling List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: February 20, 2001

Re: MZ-S hands on!

2001-02-20 Thread Tom Rittenhouse
"David A. Mann" wrote: > > Tom Rittenhouse writes: > > I can't wait to handle the camera for myself to get a feel for the controls. I > really like the interface of the Z-1p although the left-hand dial is a little > cumbersome. I especially noticed that while trying to set flash > compensa

Re: MZ-S hands on (DOF preview)!

2001-02-20 Thread John Glover
regardless of where the aperture ring is set. John - Original Message - From: "Paul Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 11:30 PM Subject: Re: MZ-S hands on (DOF preview)! > How good is a electronic DOF preview is c

Re: MZ-S hands on!

2001-02-20 Thread David A. Mann
Tom Rittenhouse writes: > Digital displays, but all the usual > functions can be controlled by simple knobs and one shot > buttons, no hold button A, swear at button B while pressing > button B three times, thank god. There are 19 custom functions > that you probably need the manual for, but any

Re: MZ-S hands on!

2001-02-20 Thread Paul C
">The exterior is plastic but he swears that the frame is magnesium." Plastic? Are you sure? The press release talked of a "magnesium diecast material, which is lighter in weight than most other metals and more durable than plastics or resins." I hope that it turns out to be metal, since that

Re: MZ-S hands on (DOF preview)!

2001-02-20 Thread Paul Jones
How good is a electronic DOF preview is comparison to the standard mechanical type like on the Super Program and LX? Thanks - Original Message - From: "David A. Mann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 3:47 PM Subj

Re: MZ-S hands on!

2001-02-20 Thread Tom Rittenhouse
Answers inline. --Tom John Francis wrote: > > Tom Rittenhouse wrote: > > > > The mode selection is almost transparent. Touch a green button > > convenient to your index finger and it goes into program mode. > > Set the f-stop on the lens it automatically goes into aperture > > priority. Set th

MZ-S hands on!

2001-02-20 Thread Tom Rittenhouse
Wow guys, I got to fondle the MZ-S today. The rep who told me I was wrong about the A35/1.4, called me and said he was in town and did I want to see the new camera. Four speeding tickets later (figuratively speaking) I had it in my hands. I asked if I could write about it to the list, and he sa