Yeah, it's frustrating, but there seems to be a positive outcome on the
horizon. Fingers crossed.
I think we all used to know someone who could help us out, provide good
service, who was knowledgeable, etc ... Those people are more and more
becoming vague memories.
Shel
[Original Message]
Chris,
I'm not Shel, but could be interested in a DS2 for the right price.
What would it cost to get it to me here down in Chicago.
Regards, Bob S.
On 3/1/06, Chris Brogden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi, Shel. I don't check the PDML very often these days since I had tosell my
LX and 67II, but
William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: Adam Maas
Subject: Re: Logic of Pentax. Was: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
Currently they do, but in the future? Plus word gets around that you
'can't get pentax gear', which promotes switching to other brands,
which costs market
On 1/3/06, Kostas Kavoussanakis, discombobulated, unleashed:
Pentax UK has solved it by overpricing everything by 40-60%, maybe
more.
The difference is that if we buy something from a UK shop and it needs
fixing or replacing, we take it back to the shop under statutory law,
not the
On Mar 1, 2006, at 1:08 AM, Cotty wrote:
That may be the way things are done in the USA, but (as I told him) it
certainly is not the way we do things here.
I just walk down the street to the Apple Retail Store and someone
there will answer any question I put to them.
I spend as little
Unfortunately, most of us don't live close to the Apple store, or similar
stores, and the phone is a better option - or even the only option. Today
I called Keeble Schucat and got nicely jerked around. Called
Reed'sCcamera in Walnut Creek and got lied to. Called Sarber's Camera in
Berkeley and
The moron/sapient quotient is quite high...
Godfrey
On Mar 1, 2006, at 1:32 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
... I tell you, Godders, I'm either one big schmuck and don't know
squat, or
the retail and service worlds seems to be populated by morons. ...
From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I tell you, Godders, I'm either one big schmuck and don't know squat, or
the retail and service worlds seems to be populated by morons.
To be fair (which can be difficult) I think they are probably not so much
morons as people completely untrained
G'day Shel (take a deep calming breath) :-),
In regards to the warranty. Make sure that they fill out and send you
a Pentax International Warranty Certificate and you should be
covered.
I had to ask for one after I bought some stuff from a Canadian camera
store. They had to get them from Pentax
That's not the way things are done here, at least not by Apple. I
bought two ipod minis for two of my kids. Both failed. I called Apple,
went through the restore process, which failed, and had them replaced.
They sent a box for each and replaced them free of any charges. They
even paid
(Yawn) I checked with McBain, and, at this point, I don't recall if they
had the camera I wanted or if the price was too high. However, I will
check with them again. The number of camera shops and web sites I've
contacted in the last week has become a blur, and only two or three stand
out for
- Original Message -
From: Adam Maas
Subject: Re: Logic of Pentax. Was: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
The DS2 is a Pentax USA problem. Getting lenses other than DA or D-FA in
Canada gets pretty iffy.
In the past little while (within the last 2 years), I have bought both an
A15
- Original Message -
From: David Savage
Subject: Re: Logic of Pentax. Was: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
Be specific with your questions. I wouldn't be surprised if they had
never hear of these things.
BTW. The store I dealt with was Mcbain Camera (Red Deer outlet, Alberta
- Original Message -
From: Cotty
Subject: Re: Logic of Pentax. Was: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
On 1/3/06, Kostas Kavoussanakis, discombobulated, unleashed:
Pentax UK has solved it by overpricing everything by 40-60%, maybe
more.
The difference is that if we buy something
On Wed, 1 Mar 2006, William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: Cotty
Subject: Re: Logic of Pentax. Was: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
On 1/3/06, Kostas Kavoussanakis, discombobulated, unleashed:
Pentax UK has solved it by overpricing everything by 40-60%, maybe
more
On Mar 1, 2006, at 10:28 AM, William Robb wrote:
The DS2 is a Pentax USA problem. Getting lenses other than DA or D-FA
in Canada gets pretty iffy.
In the past little while (within the last 2 years), I have bought both
an A15/3.5, FA31/1.8, FA50/1.4 and an FA200/4 macro through PCI with
no
On Wed, 1 Mar 2006, Aaron Reynolds wrote:
Actually, I'm very happy with the F.
Same thing in this case. Some even think it is better (that's what
photodo says).
Kostas
- Original Message -
From: Aaron Reynolds
Subject: Re: Logic of Pentax. Was: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
I suspect that it is more an unwillingness of most retailers to bring in
high-ticket items without cash up front.
I had to put money on the table before they would order
On 1/3/06, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:
I just walk down the street to the Apple Retail Store and someone
there will answer any question I put to them.
I spend as little time as possible with phone support personnel.
Between the stupid voicemail systems and the lack of
On 1/3/06, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:
That's not the way things are done here, at least not by Apple. I
bought two ipod minis for two of my kids. Both failed. I called Apple,
went through the restore process, which failed, and had them replaced.
They sent a box for each and
- Original Message -
From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Logic of Pentax. Was: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
Unfortunately, most of us don't live close to the Apple store, or similar
stores, and the phone is a better option - or even the only option. Today
I called
That's exactly what I meant -- hard to find and not imported and warehoused
by Pentax Canada are not the same. There's a lot of stuff in that warehouse
if you can find a retailer to order it in for you.
And I don't blame the retailers; we were boned on special orders all the time.
One place
Hi, Shel. I don't check the PDML very often these days since I had tosell my
LX and 67II, but I popped in today and read about your retailadventures.
Are you looking for a DS2? Which questions do you have? We have themin stock
at Don's Photo in Winnipeg. While Canadian prices can't goas low
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2006/02/28 Tue AM 07:42:45 GMT
To: pentax list pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
On 27/2/06, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:
I went to buy a toilet seat at the weekend. There were three listed
You should go back there and give them some shit.
On Feb 28, 2006, at 4:06 AM, mike wilson wrote:
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2006/02/28 Tue AM 07:42:45 GMT
To: pentax list pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
On 27/2/06, mike wilson, discombobulated
From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2006/02/28 Tue AM 11:35:07 GMT
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
You should go back there and give them some shit.
I just washed my hands of the whole affair.
On Feb 28, 2006, at 4:06 AM, mike wilson
On Feb 28, 2006, at 1:42 AM, Joseph Tainter wrote:
The limiteds are on eBay all the time. The FA* 24 shows up there
regularly. The FA* 85 and 300 show up less often, but they do show up.
The FA* 400 comes up 2 or 3 times a year. For rotten sales, there are
a lot of them floating around.
- Original Message -
From: Shel Belinkoff
Subject: Re: Logic of Pentax. Was: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
And you know what happens when one assumes ;-)) What's interesting is
that
you can't buy a Samsung here in the US yet, so Pentax is losing sales.
How
much wiser it would
William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff
Subject: Re: Logic of Pentax. Was: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
And you know what happens when one assumes ;-)) What's interesting
is that
you can't buy a Samsung here in the US yet, so Pentax is losing
sales. How
On 27 Feb 2006 at 22:19, Aaron Reynolds wrote:
I don't mean to imply that Pentax work logically, or that leaving the
istDS2 off the market for any length of time is at all a good idea, but
in the case of the FA* lenses, sales are rotten. Really, horrendously
rotten. People clamor for
You should go back there and give them some shit.
Having done that, you'd be flush with success!
Kenneth Waller
- Original Message -
From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
You should go back there and give them some shit.
On Feb 28
No, it's that Pentax has, according to FIVE independent sources,
discontinued the effin' camera after only a few months on the market. They
are, according to these sources, not building any more of these cameras.
I'd love to be wrong about this. It would be great if the cameras started
Why do you think the sale of those lenses is so poor? Too expensive for
most people? Appealing to too limited a market?
Shel
[Original Message]
From: Aaron Reynolds
Really, Joe, the sales of FA* lenses have been dreadful, and continue
to be dreadful. Are the clamoring people looking
Nobody who wants one can find them?
-Adam
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Why do you think the sale of those lenses is so poor? Too expensive for
most people? Appealing to too limited a market?
Shel
[Original Message]
From: Aaron Reynolds
Really, Joe, the sales of FA* lenses have been
They may have had to switch production over to the new D. I would imagine they
are at least at the stage of building production prototypes. The DS2 may have
been a short-run test mule to try out the larger lcd and some other bits and
pieces. I think most manufacturers have all they can do to
Shel continued:
I'm not looking for guarantees, but I do have an expectation of a certain
level of service. That probably stems from my background. Pretty much my
whole family was in a service business at one time or another. Plus, I
grew up in the era of trust and respect.
Sure, many here
It seems there were never very many samples of some high-end lenses available
to sell. If the sales were dreadful, the lenses would be sitting ona shelf in
a warehouse. Apparently, there are none available. I would say the sales were
capacity constrained. Dreadful is when you can't sell out the
From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2006/02/28 Tue PM 03:35:23 GMT
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Logic of Pentax. Was: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
No, it's that Pentax has, according to FIVE independent sources,
discontinued the effin' camera after only a few
Except the nearly identical DL already had that before. The DS2 seems to
be a DS in a DL body.
-Adam
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
They may have had to switch production over to the new D. I would imagine they
are at least at the stage of building production prototypes. The DS2 may have
been a
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It seems there were never very many samples of some high-end lenses available
to sell. If the sales were dreadful, the lenses would be sitting ona
On Feb 28, 2006, at 11:07 AM, Aaron Reynolds wrote:
I don't know about the USA situation, but here in Canada they ARE
sitting on the warehouse shelves. In many cases they had a lens
for five years before it sold and did not re-order.
Heck, they have brand new, 20 year old A* lenses up
I'm not aware of any camera company hawking their own wares on eBay -- I
imagine the retailers would object and respond by not stocking Pentax.
-Aaron
-Original Message-
From: Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subj: Re: Logic of Pentax. Was: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
Date: Tue Feb
Which ones :-)
Jens
Jens Bladt
http://www.jensbladt.dk
-Oprindelig meddelelse-
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Sendt: 28. februar 2006 17:36
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: Re: Logic of Pentax. Was: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
On Feb 28, 2006, at 11:07 AM, Aaron
-Original Message-
From: Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Feb 28, 2006, at 11:07 AM, Aaron Reynolds wrote:
I don't know about the USA
once said, That's the way it crumbles, cookie-wise.
-Aaron
-Original Message-
From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subj: Re: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
Date: Mon Feb 27, 2006 11:58 am
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I called Adorama this morning to be sure that the order
If you check the ID history you'll find that this seller is ~not~ Olympus
camera company, but just some jamoke using a name that implies there may be
a connection to Olympus.
Shel
From: Perry Pellechia
Olympus USA seems to be active:
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZolympususaQQhtZ-1
Is that actually Olympus' US distributor? Are they connected to that Russian
camera site in some way? (Their e-mail address ends with @sentosacamera.com.)
-Aaron
-Original Message-
From: Perry Pellechia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subj: Re: Logic of Pentax. Was: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent
On Feb 28, 2006, at 11:44 AM, Aaron Reynolds wrote:
I'm not aware of any camera company hawking their own wares on eBay
-- I imagine the retailers would object and respond by not stocking
Pentax.
You'd be surprised who is selling on eBay, not necessarily under
their actual names.
Bob
From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I called Adorama this morning to be sure that the order I placed has been
cancelled and that my credit card was not charged. I spoke with a fellow
named Tobias. He said that the camera is not on backorder, and that he
shows two in stock. His suggestion was
Interesting, he must have some connection with Olympus because he
seems to have sold thousands of Oly products and nothing else.
On 2/28/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you check the ID history you'll find that this seller is ~not~ Olympus
camera company, but just some jamoke
On Feb 28, 2006, at 1:02 PM, Perry Pellechia wrote:
Interesting, he must have some connection with Olympus because he
seems to have sold thousands of Oly products and nothing else.
Before the days of eBay, Pentax USA used to publish a magazine for
Pentax users. I got it for years. In
-
From: Perry Pellechia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subj: Re: Logic of Pentax. Was: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
Date: Tue Feb 28, 2006 1:02 pm
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Interesting, he must have some connection with Olympus because he
seems to have sold thousands of Oly products
- Original Message -
From: Adam Maas
Subject: Re: Logic of Pentax. Was: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
If they are selling everything they can build, they are losing nothing.
Perhaps it's nothing more than the Amarican market being bigger than what
Pentax is willing to allocate
William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: Adam Maas
Subject: Re: Logic of Pentax. Was: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
If they are selling everything they can build, they are losing nothing.
Perhaps it's nothing more than the Amarican market being bigger than
what Pentax
- Original Message -
From: Adam Maas
Subject: Re: Logic of Pentax. Was: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
Currently they do, but in the future? Plus word gets around that you
'can't get pentax gear', which promotes switching to other brands, which
costs market share. Also if you
On Tue, 28 Feb 2006, William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: Adam Maas
Subject: Re: Logic of Pentax. Was: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
Currently they do, but in the future? Plus word gets around that you 'can't
get pentax gear', which promotes switching to other brands
From: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2006/02/27 Mon AM 01:55:50 GMT
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
On Feb 26, 2006, at 8:53 PM, John Francis wrote:
But nowadays they seem to be reluctant to show items as out-of-stock.
It's
The DS2 was on their site for quite some time after I placed my order -
almost 24 hours. Anyway, I'm past that and am continuing to look for the
camera here in the US. I'm probably more miffed at Pentax for not having
the camera in stock or available for purchase here in the US.
Shel
Never had problems with BH shipping to my PO box. They certainly don't
charge a $42.00 premium for doing so. The last two purchases I made from
BH went to my PO box and were shipped from Brooklyn, NY, not from
Manhattan where the store is located.
Shel
[Original Message]
From: Joseph
/graywolf
Idiot Proof == Expert Proof
---
mike wilson wrote:
From: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2006/02/27 Mon AM 01:55:50 GMT
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
On Feb 26, 2006, at 8:53 PM, John Francis wrote
I haven't had purchases at quite the same level, but my experience with
BH has been only positive.
Jack
--- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've purchased two cameras and at least a dozen lenses from BH in
the
last two years. No problems.
Paul
On Feb 26, 2006, at 10:21 PM, Joseph
- Original Message -
From: Shel Belinkoff
Subject: Re: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
The DS2 was on their site for quite some time after I placed my order -
almost 24 hours. Anyway, I'm past that and am continuing to look for the
camera here in the US. I'm probably more miffed
I've been doing business with BH for at least a decade and probably
over $20,000 worth of goods. They're not perfect, they screw up now
and then too. I've had two mishaps on orders. But all in all they've
provided high quality service even when they do screw up.
Godfrey
On Feb 27, 2006,
On Feb 27, 2006, at 4:47 AM, graywolf wrote:
Don't worry, not only does the wholesaler not stock the product,
neither does Pentax Imaging the importer. Pentax's distribution center
in the Philippines may or may not have it in stock. It is the modern
way to do business.
You're right -- I
I called Adorama this morning to be sure that the order I placed has been
cancelled and that my credit card was not charged. I spoke with a fellow
named Tobias. He said that the camera is not on backorder, and that he
shows two in stock. His suggestion was that I not cancel the order and wait
to
On Mon, 27 Feb 2006, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
I called Adorama this morning to be sure that the order I placed has been
cancelled and that my credit card was not charged. I spoke with a fellow
named Tobias. He said that the camera is not on backorder, and that he
shows two in stock. His suggestion
I cancelled the order. I don't want to deal with this company any more. I
called a place in Illinois and spoke to a very nice lady who will check on
the availability of the camera. If she can't get it, then I'm going to
purchase the camera in Canada. I've just had it with trying to buy one
- Original Message -
From: Shel Belinkoff
Subject: Re: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
Bill, I agree with you about Pentax having a greater hand in the
distribution of their products. All I want, and probably other customers
want as well, is a straight answer to my questions
Yesterday I ordered an istDS2 from Adorama. The item was prominently
posted on their site. It's time consuming to fill out all the forms and
provide the information, but it had to be done ;-)) I was so happy to
have
found the camera I've been looking for available here in the US.
This
A truly miffed Shel posted:
Yesterday I ordered an istDS2 from Adorama. The item was prominently
posted on their site. It's time consuming to fill out all the forms and
provide the information, but it had to be done ;-)) I was so happy to
have
found the camera I've been looking for
While in general you're correct about calling and speaking to a person
live, that's still no guarantee of getting good service these days. I've
made numerous calls to various stores about this camera, and only three
people I spoke with were knowledgeable, friendly, and genuinely helpful.
Another
In passing Shel provided:
The last two purchases I made from BH went to my PO box and were shipped
from Brooklyn, NY, not from Manhattan where the store is located.
Makes sense considering where their warehouse is located.
Larry in Dallas
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
What kind of crap is that. Either the camera is in stock or it's not.
Either they can ship or they can't. But to ask a customer to wait and see
what happens is ludicrous. What ever happened to service?
I went to buy a toilet seat at the weekend. There were three listed
Shel continued to vent with:
While in general you're correct about calling and speaking to a person
live, that's still no guarantee of getting good service these days. I've
made numerous calls to various stores about this camera, and only three
people I spoke with were knowledgeable,
- Original Message -
From: Larry Levy
Subject: Re: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
On this list, most of us are looking for the low-cost reliable purveyor.
Sometimes, gurantees of proper customer service are one of the costs the
provider chooses to pare.
Sadly, customer service
I'm not looking for guarantees, but I do have an expectation of a certain
level of service. That probably stems from my background. Pretty much my
whole family was in a service business at one time or another. Plus, I
grew up in the era of trust and respect.
Sure, many here are looking for a
://webpages.charter.net/graywolf
Idiot Proof == Expert Proof
---
William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff
Subject: Re: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
The DS2 was on their site for quite some time after I placed my order -
almost 24 hours. Anyway
Shel wrote:
This whole experience of trying to find a camera that was
released only a few months ago has been an eye-opening
experience. That the camera has been replaced with a lower
speced version, the istDL, says something about Pentax, that
they don't have a clue as to what they're
It's pretty obvious: Pentax is production capacity constrained. They're
making as much product as they can, but they don't have the capacity to
fill all the demand that digital has created. In some cases I'm sure
they're allocating resources to the most profitable products. Bu the
way some of
On Feb 27, 2006, at 9:56 PM, Joseph Tainter wrote:
People have been clamoring for the better FA and FA* lenses, yet
Pentax discontinues them.
I don't mean to imply that Pentax work logically, or that leaving the
istDS2 off the market for any length of time is at all a good idea, but
in the
On Feb 27, 2006, at 10:09 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
some of the FA lenses that were supposedly discontinued, like the
50/1.4 and 35/2 continue to be available.
I was recently able to buy a brand new F (not FA) 50mm f1.4 from the
warehouse -- how long has it been since that fellow was
I have a funny feeling that the reason the *istDS2 is at least
temporarily off the market has something to do with the pair of
Samsung cameras being released. Maybe Pentax letting Samsung get a
foothold in the market with their versions of the models?
-Mat
On 2/27/06, Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL
I think you guys are thinking of things in the old way. Make a whole
bunch of cameras and stick them in a warehouse somewhere and sell them
for a few years.
I kind of doubt the istDS2 is discontinued. I would bet that the problem
is that they are selling faster than they can stick them into
That seems to be a likely assumption.
graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf
Idiot Proof == Expert Proof
---
Mat Maessen wrote:
I have a funny feeling that the reason the *istDS2 is at least
temporarily off the market has
Sorry to hear about your troubles in finding the camera you want.
I usually order my film from Adorama. Never had a problem.
I was actually at Adorama on the 19th (Sunday) of this month. As you
know, and I will make an OT post later when I get some time, I was in
search of a Leica
I got that information from FIVE different sources, directly and indirectly
from Pentax USA, the most recent just this afternoon. So, somebody's full
of shit. The people at Pentax? The people who have been trying to get me a
camera? A dealer I know? It would be great to be wrong ... but there
And you know what happens when one assumes ;-)) What's interesting is that
you can't buy a Samsung here in the US yet, so Pentax is losing sales. How
much wiser it would be, should this assumption be true, that things be
somewhat better coordinated.
Shel
[Original Message]
From: graywolf
Some comments embedded. Not disagreement, just comments.
I don't mean to imply that Pentax work logically, or that
leaving the istDS2 off the market for any length of time is at
all a good idea, but in the case of the FA* lenses, sales are
rotten. Really, horrendously rotten.
-
The
On 27/2/06, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:
I went to buy a toilet seat at the weekend. There were three listed as
in stock but no location given, so I couldn't have one. _That's_ crap
service.
That would piss me off.
Cheers,
Cotty
___/\__
|| (O) | People, Places,
Yesterday I ordered an istDS2 from Adorama. The item was prominently
posted on their site. It's time consuming to fill out all the forms and
provide the information, but it had to be done ;-)) I was so happy to have
found the camera I've been looking for available here in the US.
This
On Sun, Feb 26, 2006 at 05:34:33PM -0800, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Yesterday I ordered an istDS2 from Adorama. The item was prominently
posted on their site. It's time consuming to fill out all the forms and
provide the information, but it had to be done ;-)) I was so happy to have
found the
On Feb 26, 2006, at 8:53 PM, John Francis wrote:
But nowadays they seem to be reluctant to show items as out-of-stock.
It's because they probably didn't know that Pentax had no stock -- more
and more often these days, online retailers don't have a stocked
warehouse. When you order the
is downloading most of last season's episodes of TopGear...funny stuff.
- Original Message -
From: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 8:55 PM
Subject: Re: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
On Feb 26, 2006, at 8:53 PM, John Francis
While that may be the case, numerous other retailers seem to know that the
camera was neither in stock at their location, and that it is not available
at this time through wholesalers or other sources, and make note of that
one way or another right up front.
Surprisingly, I attempted to place an
- Original Message -
From: Shel Belinkoff
Subject: Re: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
While that may be the case, numerous other retailers seem to know that the
camera was neither in stock at their location, and that it is not
available
at this time through wholesalers or other
Yes, Bill, I know ;-)) But before buying through Canada I'd like to see if
I can get the camera through a US dealer. It just makes shipping and
warranty issues simpler. Actually, there are several Canadian places that
I know have the camera. If I can't get the camera here in the next few
days,
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From: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 8:55 PM
Subject: Re: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
On Feb 26, 2006, at 8:53 PM, John Francis wrote:
But nowadays they seem to be reluctant to show items as
out-of-stock
The other thing that annoyed me was that Adorama wanted $56.00 to ship to
my PO Box and only $14.00 to ship to my home via
United Parcel. I much prefer having expensive gear go to the PO Box as
it's safer (doesn't sit out in plain sight of the street if I can't be
there when the truck arrives),
Good to have another venter on the list, Shel. You have my
understanding.
In 2004, Adorama listed the DA 14 in June. I ordered it the day
it went up on their site. I received it in October.
Last year when I wanted to get the DA 40, Adorama had it listed
first. I ordered as soon as it showed
I've purchased two cameras and at least a dozen lenses from BH in the
last two years. No problems.
Paul
On Feb 26, 2006, at 10:21 PM, Joseph Tainter wrote:
Good to have another venter on the list, Shel. You have my
understanding.
In 2004, Adorama listed the DA 14 in June. I ordered it the
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