OT - EBay Question

2006-09-19 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I listed an item on eBay and it sold. Because of a situation here I specifically requested payment by USPS money order. The guy was late in sending payment, which was ok, but then he sent payment using a Western Union money order, which, because of circumstances here, I cannot take right now. He

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2006-09-19 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 20/09/06, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I listed an item on eBay and it sold. Because of a situation here I > specifically requested payment by USPS money order. The guy was late in > sending payment, which was ok, but then he sent payment using a Western > Union money order, whi

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2006-09-19 Thread gibikote
agree to all that Rob says... and save all emails. best wishes Sridhar - Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PDML" Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 6:42 AM Subject: OT - EBay Question >I listed an item on eBay and it

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2006-09-19 Thread Adam Maas
Shel Belinkoff wrote: > I listed an item on eBay and it sold. Because of a situation here I > specifically requested payment by USPS money order. The guy was late in > sending payment, which was ok, but then he sent payment using a Western > Union money order, which, because of circumstances here

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2006-09-19 Thread Paul Stenquist
I would just accept the Western Union money order. You should be able to redeem it at any Western Union office. Some buyers will assume that a money order is a money order. You're never going to convince him that it has to be a USPS money order. Ebay probably won't buy that argument either.

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2006-09-19 Thread Paul Stenquist
I've both accepted and sent Western Union money orders more than once. Why are they a source of fraud? Paul On Sep 19, 2006, at 9:28 PM, Adam Maas wrote: > Shel Belinkoff wrote: >> I listed an item on eBay and it sold. Because of a situation here I >> specifically requested payment by USPS mone

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2006-09-19 Thread Gonz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Shel Belinkoff wrote: > >>I listed an item on eBay and it sold. Because of a situation here I >>specifically requested payment by USPS money order. The guy was late in >>sending payment, which was ok, but then he sent payment using a Western >>Union money order, whic

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2006-09-19 Thread J. C. O'Connell
, September 19, 2006 9:38 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT - EBay Question I've both accepted and sent Western Union money orders more than once. Why are they a source of fraud? Paul On Sep 19, 2006, at 9:28 PM, Adam Maas wrote: > Shel Belinkoff wrote: >> I listed a

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2006-09-19 Thread Adam Maas
Gonz wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> Shel Belinkoff wrote: >> >> >>> I listed an item on eBay and it sold. Because of a situation here I >>> specifically requested payment by USPS money order. The guy was late in >>> sending payment, which was ok, but then he sent payment using a W

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2006-09-19 Thread Shel Belinkoff
It's a real PITA for me to start running around to find a WU office. Not only don't I have the time, I don't have the inclination to do so. The people at my bank have told me that they've received fraudulent WU money orders - forgeries. I don't want to go down that path, not with all the other t

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2006-09-19 Thread Shel Belinkoff
It's not just a matter of my cashing it, because of my current situation I specifically requested a USPS money order, and made it clear that because of circumstance, that's all I could or would be willing to take for this transaction. IAC, why should I have to be inconvenienced just to get paid. I

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2006-09-19 Thread keith_w
Shel Belinkoff wrote: > I listed an item on eBay and it sold. Because of a situation here I > specifically requested payment by USPS money order. The guy was late in > sending payment, which was ok, but then he sent payment using a Western > Union money order, which, because of circumstances here

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2006-09-19 Thread Paul Stenquist
If you check, you'll probably find that there's a Western Union office as close as your post office. They're in a lot of supermarkets. You don't have to ship the goods until you have the cash in your hands. As the seller, you're completely covered. There's no chance of loss here. Paul On Se

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2006-09-19 Thread keith_w
Paul Stenquist wrote: > I would just accept the Western Union money order. You should be able > to redeem it at any Western Union office. Some buyers will assume > that a money order is a money order. You're never going to convince > him that it has to be a USPS money order. The buyer doesn

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2006-09-19 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > I listed an item on eBay and it sold. Because of a situation here I > specifically requested payment by USPS money order. The guy was late in > sending payment, which was ok, but then he sent payment using a Western > Union money order, which, because of circumstances h

Re: OT - EBay Question

2006-09-19 Thread Paul Stenquist
I've never heard of a forged Western Union money order. It's just as easy to forge a USPS money order. Once you have your cash, it's yours. No one is going to take it back. All you're going to do by fighting this guy is end up with a big negative. Ebay doesn't split hairs in regard to what

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2006-09-19 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I'm sorry Paul, I don't have the time or the inclination to run around to find Western Union offices. If I get a USPS money order, I cash it on the spot. No further driving around, no trying to find a WU office, no hassles - easy peasy, and that's what I need now and why I specifically requested

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2006-09-19 Thread J. C. O'Connell
EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 10:07 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT - EBay Question It's a real PITA for me to start running around to find a WU office. Not only don't I have the time, I don't have t

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2006-09-19 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi Ann, The listing closed with a BIN on 9/16. Still haven't received payment. The listing specifically states a bank or USPS mo only. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280025387840 Shel > [Original Message] > From: Ann Sanfedele > Shel - if you specified a spe

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2006-09-19 Thread Paul Stenquist
No need to be sorry, just trying to save you the negative. They can be crippling. And very hard to get rid of. If you did have to find a WU outlet, you wouldn't have to drive around. Just go to www.yellowpages.com. They're all listed there. Paul On Sep 19, 2006, at 11:00 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrot

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2006-09-19 Thread Shel Belinkoff
If I get a forged USPS mo, I've already got the cash. If I go to my bank with a phoney WU (or other) mo, and it turns out not to be good, the money is taken from my account. A forged USPS mo is investigated, so it is said, by the postal authorites. My bank couldn't give a shit - they got their m

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2006-09-19 Thread Shel Belinkoff
And once I found the WU office, I'd have to drive there ... iow, drive around. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Paul Stenquist > No need to be sorry, just trying to save you the negative. They can > be crippling. And very hard to get rid of. > If you did have to find a WU outlet, you would

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2006-09-19 Thread Shel Belinkoff
nnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Date: 9/19/2006 8:09:58 PM > Subject: RE: OT - EBay Question > > All I can say is you need to take a good look at a real money > Order, the printing is very difficult to duplicate and it would > Be very easy t

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2006-09-19 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 9/19/2006 6:22:27 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: He's also saying that he'll file a fraud report with eBay ... since there's no transaction there can be no fraud, right? I suppose he can post a negative feedback, but I did specifically request a specific ty

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2006-09-19 Thread Peter Loveday
> The listing closed with a BIN on 9/16. Still haven't received payment. > The listing specifically states a bank or USPS mo only. Hmm... does it? I can see: "I will only accept a bank or postal money order." But I can't see anywhere that specifies only a USPS money order? I'd be careful her

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2006-09-19 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Ha, you understand about the WU thing in our area ;-)) Shel > [Original Message] > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > You requested a specific type of payment, he didn't comply, so you can cancel > the transaction. I've taken Western Union in the past but it's a major PITA > for me, because there i

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2006-09-19 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Mail List > Date: 9/20/2006 4:28:44 PM > Subject: Re: OT - EBay Question > > > The listing closed with a BIN on 9/16. Still haven't received payment. > > The listing specifically states a bank or USPS mo only. > > Hmm... does it? I can see: > > "

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2006-09-19 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 9/19/2006 7:19:21 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't believe that, Paul. Were it me, I'd carry on just as Shel suggests. Explain, again, that a WU MO is *not* the same as a USPS MO. It's none of the other guy's business. He chose to NOT follow what Shel

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2006-09-19 Thread J. C. O'Connell
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 12:22 AM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT - EBay Question In a message dated 9/19/2006 7:19:21 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't believe that, Paul. Were it me, I'd car

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2006-09-19 Thread J. C. O'Connell
nearly nil IMHO. That's all I am saying... jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 11:19 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: OT - EBay Question I'm not a forgery expert. And

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2006-09-19 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 9/19/2006 9:49:37 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: FYI, there are about 10 WU outlets in my city and only 1 Post office with long lines every day. Id rather have The WU money if I worried about cashing it instead Of just depositing it in my checking account as

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2006-09-19 Thread Jens Bladt
Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Shel Belinkoff Sendt: 20. september 2006 03:13 Til: PDML Emne: OT - EBay Question I listed an item on eBay and it sold

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2006-09-20 Thread keith_w
Peter Loveday wrote: >> The listing closed with a BIN on 9/16. Still haven't received payment. >> The listing specifically states a bank or USPS mo only. > > Hmm... does it? I can see: > > "I will only accept a bank or postal money order." That's not what *I* see, Peter. I see: "Payment met

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2006-09-20 Thread keith_w
Shel Belinkoff wrote: > Hi Ann, > > The listing closed with a BIN on 9/16. Still haven't received payment. > The listing specifically states a bank or USPS mo only. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280025387840 > > Shel I'm on your side, Shel, but let me point

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2006-09-20 Thread Lucas Rijnders
Op Wed, 20 Sep 2006 11:16:34 +0200 schreef keith_w <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Shel Belinkoff wrote: >> Hi Ann, >> >> The listing closed with a BIN on 9/16. Still haven't received payment. >> The listing specifically states a bank or USPS mo only. >> >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dl

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2006-09-20 Thread mike wilson
> > From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > My bank couldn't give a shit - they got their > monet, and I probably get some kind of service charge tacked on as well. Your bank requires payment in Impressionist paintings? And you think an eBay transaction is difficult? You Californians

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2006-09-20 Thread Cotty
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280025387840 I assume the seller is Shel but I don't suck up to his drivel, so here's may take: There are two references to payment. The first is: -- PAYMENT: For this auction I will only accept a bank or postal money order.

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2006-09-20 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 20/09/06, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280025387840 > > I assume the seller is Shel but I don't suck up to his drivel, so here's > may take: > > There are two references to payment. > > The first is: > -- > PAYMENT: Fo

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2006-09-20 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Well, I live in a different place, the situation here is different, and my situation right now is, I'm sure different from yours and Paul's. So, what works for you doesn't work for me. 'Nuff said, OK. Shel > [Original Message] > From: J. C. O'Connell > FYI, there are about 10 WU outlets in m

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2006-09-20 Thread Shel Belinkoff
> Date: 9/20/2006 2:20:40 AM > Subject: Re: OT - EBay Question > > Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > Hi Ann, > > > > The listing closed with a BIN on 9/16. Still haven't received payment. > > The listing specifically states a bank or USPS mo only. >

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2006-09-20 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I specifically stated the type of payment accepted, both in the listing and in an email to the buyer. He agreed to abide by my terms. It's none of your business why I want payment a certain way right now. I will say that there are temporary circumstances in my life that make taking the money in

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2006-09-20 Thread Mark Roberts
Cotty wrote: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280025387840 > > I assume the seller is Shel but I don't suck up to his drivel, so here's > may take: > > There are two references to payment. > > The first is: > -- > PAYMENT: For this auction I will

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2006-09-20 Thread Cotty
On 20/9/06, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: > >No, in the States, "Postal money order" means a money order issued by >the U.S. Postal Service. (As opposed to "A money order that goes berserk >and starts attacking people for no reason".) You can get them at any >Post Office. I have do

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2006-09-20 Thread Cotty
On 20/9/06, Digital Image Studio, discombobulated, unleashed: >No a Postal Money order in the US is a USPS money order. I've just checked and stand corrected, thanks. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _

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2006-09-20 Thread graywolf
Well it does not say USPS Money Order, it says "bank or postal money order". I am not sure that eBay would not consider a WU the equivalent of a bank money order. You may have to take your chances on this one, and be more careful how you word things in the future. At least it is not a lot of mo

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2006-09-20 Thread Tom C
ople would recognize a difference. Banks are some of the biggest conartists around. Tom C. >From: "J. C. O'Connell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" >Subject: RE: OT - EBay Question

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2006-09-20 Thread graywolf
There are a lot of counterfeit Western Union Money Orders floating around. I would not take one under any circumstances. IF you clearly stated USPS Money Order in your listing the guy hasn't got a leg to stand on, and I would expect any fraud involved would by on his part. Sent it back, and can

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2006-09-20 Thread Tom C
ople would recognize a difference. Banks are some of the biggest conartists around. Tom C. >From: "J. C. O'Connell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" >Subject: RE: OT - EBay Question

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2006-09-20 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 21/09/06, graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well it does not say USPS Money Order, it says "bank or postal money > order". I am not sure that eBay would not consider a WU the equivalent > of a bank money order. You may have to take your chances on this one, > and be more careful how you word

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2006-09-20 Thread P. J. Alling
I think USPS money orders are if the Postal Service in question has a reciprocal agreement with the USPS. I don't think that the Australian PO has one. Digital Image Studio wrote: >On 20/09/06, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&i

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2006-09-20 Thread Cotty
On 21/9/06, Digital Image Studio, discombobulated, unleashed: >A WUMO is actually a third party cheque drawn on the Wells Fargo Bank, >it's not strictly a cashiers cheque or draft, depends on the >semantics. A bloke once sent me a Western Union Money Order from Japan, and I went to a Western unio

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2006-09-20 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Since you don't know my current circumstances, you're in no position to suggest what I should do or that I should take a WU money order. I asked a specific question about eBay, and got enough answers to better understand my position there. Anyway, the payment still hasn't arrived. Shel > [Ori

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2006-09-20 Thread P. J. Alling
y 1 >>Post office with long lines every day. Id rather have >>The WU money if I worried about cashing it instead >>Of just depositing it in my checking account as I do with >>All my money orders. >>jco >> >>-Original Message- >>From: [EMAIL PROTE

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2006-09-20 Thread Tom C
Go ahead and take it personally then... :-( Tom C. >From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" >Subject: RE: OT - EBay Question >Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 09:06:35 -0700 > >Since

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2006-09-20 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Unless they have a two-tiered pricing policy, the USPS mo's are 95-cents for any amount up to $700.00 or so. That's what I paid for the last MO I purchased. Shel > [Original Message] > From: P. J. Alling < > USPS are among the least expensive money orders. [...] > The USPS charges $1.50.

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2006-09-20 Thread P. J. Alling
You're right, I have no idea where I got $1.50 figure from, it was stuck in my head for some reason. I use my atm card to pay for USPS money orders and the fee is low enough that I don't really pay attention. Shel Belinkoff wrote: >Unless they have a two-tiered pricing policy, the USPS mo's ar

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2006-09-20 Thread Mark Roberts
BTW: I wouldn't rule out the possibility that the buyer is just being a prick to try to negotiate a price reduction (partial refund). There are a lot of sleazy buyers who try to use the fear of negative feedback this way. I once sold something (I forget exactly what now) that I *knew* was in mi

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2006-09-20 Thread mike wilson
Mark Roberts wrote: > He made it > clear enough for just about anyone with two working synapses. > Mark.(!) You're getting quite a few of these -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

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2006-09-20 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sep 20, 2006, at 9:57 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: > The only negative eBay feedback I've ever had was, ironically, from > someone who ripped *me* off and didn't like the feedback I left > about him. Exactly the same experience here. I agreed to have the feedback deleted by both parties in the e

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2006-09-20 Thread pnstenquist
Never be first to leave feedback. Buyer or seller, I always wait until the other party has posted feedback. Paul -- Original message -- From: Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > On Sep 20, 2006, at 9:57 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: > > > The only negative eBay fe

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2006-09-20 Thread Tom C
If you reread my post you would see that I was playing + I wrote "could" not "should". Tom C. >From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" >Subject: RE: OT - EBa

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2006-09-20 Thread Shel Belinkoff
uot;Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > >Subject: RE: OT - EBay Question > >Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 09:06:35 -0700 > > > >Since you don't know my current circumstanc

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2006-09-20 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 9/20/2006 10:05:48 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BTW: I wouldn't rule out the possibility that the buyer is just being a prick to try to negotiate a price reduction (partial refund). There are a lot of sleazy buyers who try to use the fear of negative fee

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2006-09-20 Thread Tom C
That's OK... Understandable. Thanks. :-) Tom C. >From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" >Subject: RE: OT - EBay Question >Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 11:51:26 -0700 > >In

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2006-09-20 Thread graywolf
If anyone is interested, Western Union was the telegraph company in the US and was the quickest way to transfer money. But when was the last time anyone sent a telegram? If you go down to a big truck stop you will find that there a least a half dozen companies that will wire money that you can

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2006-09-20 Thread graywolf
er' and >> a Western Union money order. I know of course one is issued by a bank, but >> other than that I don't think most people would recognize a difference. >> >> Banks are some of the biggest conartists around. >> >> >> Tom C. >> >

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2006-09-20 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 21/09/06, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > A bloke once sent me a Western Union Money Order from Japan, and I went > to a Western union agent (actually a foreign exchange bureau that dealt > in Western Union) here in Oxford (UK) and even they wouldn't cash it! My > bank wouldn't take it, I h

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2006-09-21 Thread Bob Shell
On Sep 20, 2006, at 5:44 AM, Lucas Rijnders wrote: > When do you guys gear up to 20th century level, and start using direct > bank transfers :o) Bank transfers are expensive and difficult to do in the USA. They are set up for large commercial transactions. I had someone who wanted me to sen

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2006-09-21 Thread Bob Shell
On Sep 19, 2006, at 9:55 PM, J. C. O'Connell wrote: > The western union scams are money transfers, not money orders. > You know how hard it would be to counterfeit a money order? > Harder than it would be worth to someone to try it. Not true. I just got paid on an eBay sale with an Albertson's

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2006-09-21 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Shell Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 8:14 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT - EBay Question On Sep 19, 2006, at 9:55 PM, J. C. O'Connell wrote: > The western union scams are money transfers, not money orders. > You know how hard it would be to counterfeit a money orde

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2006-09-21 Thread P. J. Alling
l >Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 8:14 AM >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >Subject: Re: OT - EBay Question > > >On Sep 19, 2006, at 9:55 PM, J. C. O'Connell wrote: > > > >>The western union scams are money transfers, not money orders. >>You know how har

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2006-09-21 Thread Bob Shell
On Sep 20, 2006, at 2:47 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Yes, I had buyer complain once that a china cup and saucer I sent > her were > chipped (Mom had a bunch around to sell). I said it didn't have a > chip when I > sent it, it must have gotten chipped in the mailing, please send it > back

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2006-09-21 Thread mike wilson
> > From: Bob Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/09/21 Thu PM 12:24:17 GMT > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: OT - EBay Question > > > On Sep 20, 2006, at 5:44 AM, Lucas Rijnders wrote: > > > When do you guys gear up to 20th century

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2006-09-21 Thread Lucas Rijnders
Op Thu, 21 Sep 2006 14:24:17 +0200 schreef Bob Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Sep 20, 2006, at 5:44 AM, Lucas Rijnders wrote: > >> When do you guys gear up to 20th century level, and start using direct >> bank transfers :o) > > Bank transfers are expensive and difficult to do in the USA. They a

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2006-09-21 Thread P. J. Alling
It's banking it's heavily regulated. mike wilson wrote: >>From: Bob Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Date: 2006/09/21 Thu PM 12:24:17 GMT >>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>Subject: Re: OT - EBay Question >> >> >>On Sep 20, 2006, at 5:44 AM, L

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2006-09-21 Thread Lucas Rijnders
Op Thu, 21 Sep 2006 15:27:41 +0200 schreef mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Wow. Let me rephrase then: when do your /banks/ gear up to 20th century >> level, and start offering direct bank transfers. Within the EU bank >> transfers for private persons are secure, fast (couple of days max.),

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2006-09-21 Thread Bob Shell
On Sep 21, 2006, at 9:02 AM, Lucas Rijnders wrote: > Wow. Let me rephrase then: when do your /banks/ gear up to 20th > century > level, and start offering direct bank transfers. Within the EU bank > transfers for private persons are secure, fast (couple of days max.), > convenient (order per ma

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2006-09-21 Thread Bob Shell
On Sep 21, 2006, at 9:07 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: > The watermark may be difficult, but old embossing machines can be > bought > fairly cheaply. There's nothing to stop a criminal enterprise from > buying a new one either. There's no law controlling them as far as > I know. > The Albertson'

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2006-09-21 Thread J. C. O'Connell
ke... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Shell Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 9:49 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT - EBay Question On Sep 21, 2006, at 9:07 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: > The watermark may be diffi

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2006-09-21 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Thu, 21 Sep 2006, mike wilson wrote: >> From: Bob Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Date: 2006/09/21 Thu PM 12:24:17 GMT >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Subject: Re: OT - EBay Question >> >> >> On Sep 20, 2006, at 5:44 AM, Lucas Rijnders wrote:

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2006-09-21 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Thu, 21 Sep 2006, mike wilson wrote: > They are not free here but this is ripoff Britain, the USA clone. > The price is not exhorbitant, though. What, bank transfers inside the country? I have never been charged. Kostas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman

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2006-09-21 Thread graywolf
Yes, but personal checks, credit cards, debit cards, check cards, and USPS money orders are no problem over here, so there is not that much of a need. Furthermore many of us have problems with giving strangers access to our bank accounts, we do not have the banking protections Europeans do. --

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2006-09-21 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Bank xfer fees @ my bank were $15.00 the last time I checked. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Bob Shell > Bank transfers are expensive and difficult to do in the USA. They are > set up for large commercial transactions. I had someone who wanted > me to send money via bank transfer so I

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2006-09-21 Thread graywolf
ber 21, 2006 8:14 AM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: OT - EBay Question > > > On Sep 19, 2006, at 9:55 PM, J. C. O'Connell wrote: > >> The western union scams are money transfers, not money orders. >> You know how hard it would be to counterfeit

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2006-09-21 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 22/09/06, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bank xfer fees @ my bank were $15.00 the last time I checked. I can transfer to any Australian financial institution for free and an overseas transfer costs me AU$20 to initiate, US$65 to accept an incoming transfer seems a bit steep. http:

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2006-09-21 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 9/21/2006 7:57:00 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Am I right that customers pay US banks to deposit their money? Kostas === Is there a monthly charge on most regular checking accounts in the US? Yes. Does a customer pay a charge on each deposit? No. Ba

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2006-09-21 Thread mike wilson
PM 02:50:47 GMT > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: OT - EBay Question > > On Thu, 21 Sep 2006, mike wilson wrote: > > > They are not free here but this is ripoff Britain, the USA clone. > > The price is not exhorbitant, though. > > What, bank tr

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2006-09-21 Thread graywolf
/21 Thu PM 12:24:17 GMT >>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> Subject: Re: OT - EBay Question >>> >>> >>> On Sep 20, 2006, at 5:44 AM, Lucas Rijnders wrote: >>> >>> Bank transfers are expensive and difficult to do in the USA. They are >

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2006-09-21 Thread graywolf
>>> Date: 2006/09/21 Thu PM 12:24:17 GMT >>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> Subject: Re: OT - EBay Question >>> >>> >>> On Sep 20, 2006, at 5:44 AM, Lucas Rijnders wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> When do you gu

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2006-09-21 Thread mike wilson
> > From: Kostas Kavoussanakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/09/21 Thu PM 02:49:10 GMT > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: OT - EBay Question > > On Thu, 21 Sep 2006, mike wilson wrote: > > >> From: Bob Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >

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2006-09-21 Thread Shel Belinkoff
First of all, not everyone's as clever as you are, and they may not know the subtle differences between a real or forged money order. You handle a lot of these items per year, some people may only get one or two MO's per year, if that many. Sometimes even the people at the bank are fooled. Telle

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2006-09-21 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 22/09/06, graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You can buy a check protector (the gizmo that embosses the amount) for > $29.95. Man you do not realize what quality modern counterfeiters can > produce. The reason the US is going to some much expense producing new > currency is that everybody and

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2006-09-21 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 9/21/2006 8:38:40 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oh no! We pay them to service our checks, send us statements, and ridiculous overdraft fees. They do not charge deposit fees . Actually if you are a smart shopper there are ways to get free checking without

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2006-09-21 Thread Shel Belinkoff
It seems that you didn't hesitate for very long Shel > [Original Message] > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > The overdraft fees is where they really get you. > One of my banks charges > daily, about $5 a day. Usually they don't get > notice to you by mail that you have > an overdraft right aw

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2006-09-21 Thread Cotty
On 21/9/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: > And I found an >account for those 55 and over with no charge. Why Marn, surely you're too young for that ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _

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2006-09-21 Thread P. J. Alling
You don't shop around enough, I would never stand for a personal checking account that had a monthly fee or a per check fee. There's always a bank offering "free" checking, sometimes even free checks. If the bank after time decides to add a fee, I'm out of there so fast they don't know what h

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2006-09-21 Thread P. J. Alling
I didn't say the regulations helped the consumer. graywolf wrote: >Not anymore. Just like consumer protection laws most of that has been >quiterly done away with, we just think our money is safe. More laws >regulating individuals, less regulating corporations and the government, >that is the

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2006-09-21 Thread Bob Shell
On Sep 21, 2006, at 10:49 AM, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: > Am I right that customers pay US banks to deposit their money? Not my bank. They pay me interest on my deposited money. So long as I maintain a certain minimum bank balance they don't charge me any fees at all. Bob -- PDML Penta

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2006-09-21 Thread P. J. Alling
Thank God we haven't stooped to plastic money yet. Digital Image Studio wrote: >On 22/09/06, graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>You can buy a check protector (the gizmo that embosses the amount) for >>$29.95. Man you do not realize what quality modern counterfeiters can >>produce. The r

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2006-09-21 Thread Mark Roberts
P. J. Alling wrote: > You don't shop around enough, I would never stand for a personal > checking account that had a monthly fee or a per check fee. There's > always a bank offering "free" checking, sometimes even free checks. If > the bank after time decides to add a fee, I'm out of there so

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