Re: OT - Photographic Oasis

2011-12-21 Thread kwaller
Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Cotty" Subject: Re: OT - Photographic Oasis Sorry - I'm dog tired. should be 'wood' don't worry, we all got wood. could you be more concrete? Be

Re: OT - Photographic Oasis

2011-12-21 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Dec 21, 2011, at 13:55 , DagT wrote: > > Den 21. des. 2011 kl. 22:37 skrev Bob W: > >>> On 21/12/11, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed: >>> I think this is because people who spend their lives reviewing cameras are a bit like any professional at any profession - you can get to the

Re: OT - Photographic Oasis

2011-12-21 Thread Cotty
> Sorry - I'm dog tired. > > should be 'wood' > don't worry, we all got wood. >>> >>>could you be more concrete? >> >> Believe me I would pour my heart out to you >> >But I would knot, its against my grain. I won't lumber you with any more puns. -- PDML Pentax

Re: OT - Photographic Oasis

2011-12-21 Thread kwaller
Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Cotty" Subject: Re: OT - Photographic Oasis Sorry - I'm dog tired. should be 'wood' don't worry, we all got wood. could you be more concrete? Be

Re: OT - Photographic Oasis

2011-12-21 Thread Cotty
>>> Sorry - I'm dog tired. >>> >>> should be 'wood' >>> >> >> don't worry, we all got wood. > >could you be more concrete? Believe me I would pour my heart out to you -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the P

Re: OT - Photographic Oasis

2011-12-21 Thread DagT
Den 21. des. 2011 kl. 22:37 skrev Bob W: >> On 21/12/11, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed: >> >>> I think this is because people who spend their lives reviewing cameras >>> are a bit like any professional at any profession - you can get to the >>> point where you can't see the woof for the tree

Re: OT - Photographic Oasis

2011-12-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Cotty wrote: > On 21/12/11, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed: > >>I think this is because people who spend their lives reviewing cameras >>are a bit like any professional at any profession - you can get to the >>point where you can't see the woof for the trees. >

Re: OT - Photographic Oasis

2011-12-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Bob W wrote: >> On 21/12/11, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed: >> >> >I think this is because people who spend their lives reviewing cameras >> >are a bit like any professional at any profession - you can get to the >> >point where you can't see the woof for the t

RE: OT - Photographic Oasis

2011-12-21 Thread Bob W
> On 21/12/11, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >I think this is because people who spend their lives reviewing cameras > >are a bit like any professional at any profession - you can get to the > >point where you can't see the woof for the trees. > > Sorry - I'm dog tired. > > should be 'w

Re: OT - Photographic Oasis

2011-12-21 Thread Larry Colen
On Dec 21, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Cotty wrote: > On 21/12/11, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed: > >> I think this is because people who spend their lives reviewing cameras >> are a bit like any professional at any profession - you can get to the >> point where you can't see the woof for the trees. >

Re: OT - Photographic Oasis

2011-12-21 Thread Cotty
On 21/12/11, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed: >I think this is because people who spend their lives reviewing cameras >are a bit like any professional at any profession - you can get to the >point where you can't see the woof for the trees. Sorry - I'm dog tired. should be 'wood' -- Che

Re: OT - Photographic Oasis

2011-12-21 Thread Cotty
On 21/12/11, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed: >This is such a great report, I went to the Fuji web site to give a >closer look-see to the camera and then to B & H to the check price. If I >find myself in the market for such a camera, I shall certainly consider >your report, Cotty. Th

Re: OT - Photographic Oasis

2011-12-21 Thread Christine Aguila
This is such a great report, I went to the Fuji web site to give a closer look-see to the camera and then to B & H to the check price. If I find myself in the market for such a camera, I shall certainly consider your report, Cotty. Thanks much! Cheers, Christine On Dec 21, 2011, at 8:07 A

Re: OT - Photographic Oasis

2011-12-21 Thread Cotty
On 21/12/11, Steven Desjardins, discombobulated, unleashed: >Concerning modes: I have taken to setting the resolution to fine (12 >MP) and the internal EXR setting to either High ISO/Low noise or >improved DR. I then leave it on P (or A) most of the time for full >resolution and flick to EXR for

Re: OT - Photographic Oasis

2011-12-21 Thread Steven Desjardins
Concerning modes: I have taken to setting the resolution to fine (12 MP) and the internal EXR setting to either High ISO/Low noise or improved DR. I then leave it on P (or A) most of the time for full resolution and flick to EXR for bad lighting, which changes to the 6 MP pixel-binning mode. It'

Re: OT - Photographic Oasis

2011-12-21 Thread Cotty
For those who might be interested, here's a little progress report with first impressions of the Fuji X10. After opening the box - wow. Quality feel to it. Smth. Very black, very small. Size and weight reminds me of Leica CL, but resemblance ends there. It looks just like a flippin film camera

RE: OT - Photographic Oasis

2011-12-20 Thread Bob W
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of > Paul Stenquist > > A nice set of pics. The cat shot is superb. > > But I wonder how Fuji could release a camera with an easily > recognizable problem. We fault Pentax for quality control, but at least > they don't commit

Re: OT - Photographic Oasis

2011-12-20 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: > We all have our secrets.  I clearly need more interesting ones. MARK! -- Godfrey   godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDM

Re: OT - Photographic Oasis

2011-12-20 Thread Steven Desjardins
We all have our secrets. I clearly need more interesting ones. On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 8:08 PM, Cotty wrote: > On 20/12/11, Steven Desjardins, discombobulated, unleashed: > >>I've had mine about two weeks. > > You little closet X10 owner you! > > -- > > > Cheers, >  Cotty > > > ___/\__ > ||   (O

Re: OT - Photographic Oasis

2011-12-20 Thread Steven Desjardins
I've read that the WC problem may be "intrinsic" to the current incarnation of the EXR sensor and that firmware will never completely fix it. I know I should be more bothered by this but it just hasn't been a big problem. I suspect my first problem with it may arise during our trip to Disney in t

Re: OT - Photographic Oasis

2011-12-20 Thread Paul Stenquist
A nice set of pics. The cat shot is superb. But I wonder how Fuji could release a camera with an easily recognizable problem. We fault Pentax for quality control, but at least they don't commit major engineering flubs like this. Paul On Dec 20, 2011, at 8:01 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: > The

Re: OT - Photographic Oasis

2011-12-20 Thread Cotty
On 20/12/11, Steven Desjardins, discombobulated, unleashed: >I've had mine about two weeks. You little closet X10 owner you! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss

Re: OT - Photographic Oasis

2011-12-20 Thread Steven Desjardins
The "white circle" problem is actually worst at low iso, like 100. It gets better as the iso goes up. You can see some of them if you zoom in on this one: http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/15174580_3zgwM8#1638663267_CKhHhmV It just hasn't been a big problem for me, but I can see how i

Re: OT - Photographic Oasis

2011-12-20 Thread Steven Desjardins
I've had mine about two weeks. It's not perfect, of course, but it does a great job for such a small camera. The lens is fast and a nice zoom range. The EXR mode is very useful. The camera will drop its resolution from 12 to 6 MP and use extra pixels to improve high iso noise or DR. The last 1

Re: OT - Photographic Oasis

2011-12-20 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 2:59 PM, Bob W wrote: >> >> On 20/12/11, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed: >> >> >Some things nobody tells you. The optical viewfinder has no >> information >> >in it other than the view. >> >> I should say that I knew that info above - I was referring to the green >> focu

Re: OT - Photographic Oasis

2011-12-20 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I was just cruising the Fuji website to see the X10, Cotty, and this line from the X10 pages jumped out at me: "The most distinctive feature developed specifically for the X10 is its manual barrel zoom ring. Rotating the zoom ring recreates the experience of using a single-lens reflex camera, igni

RE: OT - Photographic Oasis

2011-12-20 Thread Bob W
> > On 20/12/11, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >Some things nobody tells you. The optical viewfinder has no > information > >in it other than the view. > > I should say that I knew that info above - I was referring to the green > focus light. Poor writing. > you probably can get infor

Re: OT - Photographic Oasis

2011-12-20 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 6:50 AM, Cotty wrote: > Santa stopped by on his way to the North Pole and told me I've been a > good little boy so I could have one of my presents early :) woo hoo! the focus confirmation light sounds to be the same as using the GXR with an AF camera unit and optical find

Re: OT - Photographic Oasis

2011-12-20 Thread Evan Hanson
On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 9:36 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote: > A friend of mine has been using it intensively for more than one month now. > > Pros: > - Very low noise, > - Unbelievable wide dynamic range, > - Excellent exposure, even in critical situations. > > Cons: > - Viewfinder frames what it wants

Re: OT - Photographic Oasis

2011-12-20 Thread Cotty
Tight fit but goes in my Levi 501s front or back pockets :) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.

Re: OT - Photographic Oasis

2011-12-20 Thread Cotty
Frank, look away now. This reminds me **so** much of the Leica CL. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listin

Re: OT - Photographic Oasis

2011-12-20 Thread Cotty
On 20/12/11, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed: >Some things nobody tells you. The optical viewfinder has no information >in it other than the view. I should say that I knew that info above - I was referring to the green focus light. Poor writing. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | P

Re: OT - Photographic Oasis

2011-12-20 Thread Cotty
Oh yes, I can confirm that the whole viewfinder image is fully visible while wearing glasses. As it happens I tend not to wear glasses while shooting stills, but there you are. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com ___

Re: OT - Photographic Oasis

2011-12-20 Thread Cotty
Santa stopped by on his way to the North Pole and told me I've been a good little boy so I could have one of my presents early :) It's the same height/thickness as an MX. I'm v happy. Some things nobody tells you. The optical viewfinder has no information in it other than the view. I hate focus c

Re: OT - Photographic Oasis

2011-12-19 Thread Dario Bonazza
Cotty wrote: On 19/12/11, Dario Bonazza, discombobulated, unleashed: but he told me that the image you see in the viewfinder and the picture you get are so apart and unpredictable that you could well point the camera by eye, without even looking into the OVF, and get the same precision in fr

Re: OT - Photographic Oasis

2011-12-19 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
2011 12/19/11 To: pentax list Subject: Re: OT - Photographic Oasis On 19/12/11, Dario Bonazza, discombobulated, unleashed: >but he told me that >the image you see in the viewfinder and the picture you get are so apart and >unpredictable that you could well point the camera by eye, without e

Re: OT - Photographic Oasis

2011-12-19 Thread Cotty
On 19/12/11, Dario Bonazza, discombobulated, unleashed: >but he told me that >the image you see in the viewfinder and the picture you get are so apart and >unpredictable that you could well point the camera by eye, without even >looking into the OVF, and get the same precision in framing. I would

Re: OT - Photographic Oasis

2011-12-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 12:11 PM, Dario Bonazza wrote: > ... I am aware of the EVF in my wife's > Panasonic G2 and I'd like such a thing in a compact camera like the X10, > instead of the rather erratic OVF it is equipped with. The NEX 7 would make you happy. The EVF in that one is excellent, mak

Re: OT - Photographic Oasis

2011-12-19 Thread John Francis
On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 07:39:21PM +, Cotty wrote: > On 19/12/11, Dario Bonazza, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >Main improvement suggested: get rid of that optical viewfinder and replace > >it with a good EVF a la Panasonic. > > That would kill it for me Dario. The best EVF in the world is

Re: OT - Photographic Oasis

2011-12-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Cotty wrote: > That would kill it for me Dario. The best EVF in the world is still a > bucket of horse turds compare to optical for me. And in case you'd like > to see the EVF i use every day, this is it: > >

Re: OT - Photographic Oasis

2011-12-19 Thread Dario Bonazza
Cotty wrote: That would kill it for me Dario. The best EVF in the world is still a bucket of horse turds compare to optical for me. And in case you'd like to see the EVF i use every day, this is it: OK, I accept a different poi

Re: OT - Photographic Oasis

2011-12-19 Thread Cotty
On 19/12/11, Dario Bonazza, discombobulated, unleashed: >Ok, we are not discussing a high-end camera here, but... 75% coverage! And >someone (not me) calls a drawback 95% coverage in some DLSR's. BTW, I find >95% to be ideal and even better than 100%, because it gives you that little >extra for re

Re: OT - Photographic Oasis

2011-12-19 Thread Cotty
On 19/12/11, Dario Bonazza, discombobulated, unleashed: >Main improvement suggested: get rid of that optical viewfinder and replace >it with a good EVF a la Panasonic. That would kill it for me Dario. The best EVF in the world is still a bucket of horse turds compare to optical for me. And in cas

Re: OT - Photographic Oasis

2011-12-19 Thread Cotty
On 19/12/11, Evan Hanson, discombobulated, unleashed: >I'm fascinated by the X10 and X100. I can't wait to hear your impressions. I can do a 747-400 at full throttle from a dead stop to V2 which isn't at all bad so some shutter clicks should be a doddle. --> ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty

Re: OT - Photographic Oasis

2011-12-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 8:53 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote: > ... As I understand it, the problem is not just the approximation, but the > combination between approximation and parallax error, so that you cannot > really know what will show up in your picture. I understand my friend's > disappointment o

Re: OT - Photographic Oasis

2011-12-19 Thread Dario Bonazza
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: A friend of mine got one of the first ones in California. He absolutely loves it ... except for the 'white dish' business. Like Cotty, (and me to some degree), he specifically didn't want an EVF and doesn't find the more approximate framing of the optical viewfinder a pro

Re: OT - Photographic Oasis

2011-12-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 6:36 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote: > A friend of mine has been using it intensively for more than one month now. > > Pros: > - Very low noise, > - Unbelievable wide dynamic range, > - Excellent exposure, even in critical situations. > > Cons: > - Viewfinder frames what it wants

Re: OT - Photographic Oasis

2011-12-19 Thread Dario Bonazza
it = Fujifilm X10 - Original Message - From: "Dario Bonazza" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 3:36 PM Subject: Re: OT - Photographic Oasis A friend of mine has been using it intensively for more than one month now. Pr

Re: OT - Photographic Oasis

2011-12-19 Thread Dario Bonazza
"Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 3:25 PM Subject: Re: OT - Photographic Oasis I'm fascinated by the X10 and X100. I can't wait to hear your impressions. Evan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pd

Re: OT - Photographic Oasis

2011-12-19 Thread Evan Hanson
I'm fascinated by the X10 and X100. I can't wait to hear your impressions. Evan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: OT - Photographic Oasis

2011-12-19 Thread Cotty
On 18/12/11, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: >I hope you enjoy the X10! Many folks seem to find it strikes just the >right balance. Others have said they like it but there seem to be some >imaging problems with specular reflections in some cases. I'll be >curious to see what you thin

Re: OT - Photographic Oasis

2011-12-18 Thread Christine Aguila
Congrats and looking forward to the pictures. Cheers, Christine On Dec 18, 2011, at 5:45 PM, Cotty wrote: > I sold a video camera - so have some readies. Taking a chance but have > ordered an X10 (the camera Pentax shoulda made ;-) > > I think my photographic wilderness is just coming to a cl

Re: OT - Photographic Oasis

2011-12-18 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 3:45 PM, Cotty wrote: > I sold a video camera - so have some readies. Taking a chance but have > ordered an X10 (the camera Pentax shoulda made ;-) > > I think my photographic wilderness is just coming to a close. I hope you enjoy the X10! Many folks seem to find it st

OT - Photographic Oasis

2011-12-18 Thread Cotty
I sold a video camera - so have some readies. Taking a chance but have ordered an X10 (the camera Pentax shoulda made ;-) I think my photographic wilderness is just coming to a close. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps