Re: Photokina - yet more cheapskating by Hoya

2010-09-18 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: They probably won't know it all. But most companies staff trade show booths with recruits. For decades, the Pentax booth at Photokina had been run by their own sales staff. This used to be the only reason to go there because you could talk directly

Re: Photokina - yet more cheapskating by Hoya

2010-09-18 Thread P. J. Alling
Sounds reasonable to me for what qualifies as unskilled labor. If they're lucky maybe some will even be Pentax fans. On 9/18/2010 5:35 AM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: Looks as if they don't have enough staff left at Pentax Germany to man the Pentax booth at Photokina. The whole booth

Re: Photokina - yet more cheapskating by Hoya

2010-09-18 Thread William Robb
-- From: Miserere Subject: Re: Photokina - yet more cheapskating by Hoya So when people ask are my dad's old M lenses fully compatible with the K-5 the boothdude(tte) will know all about the green button, crippled mount, crop factor, manual

Re: Photokina - yet more cheapskating by Hoya

2010-09-18 Thread Steven Desjardins
it now and put the money toward a K5. You'll probably live longer with it out of your life. On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 1:18 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: -- From: Miserere Subject: Re: Photokina - yet more cheapskating by Hoya So when

photokina

2010-09-17 Thread eckinator
Missed the other thread - I have a coupon here, multiple use also possible, for a free German language DVD containing photography workshops featuring a bunch of star pros. Anyone going there and wants it, let me know. It is yours in exchange for postage for a second DVD sent to me. Or for free if

Re: photokina

2010-09-17 Thread Thibouille
It'd be English I'd be interested but german, really is not for me ;) btw, reading your post I first read 'porn stars' instead of star pros', I guess I should sleep a bit more :D Probably the habit of seeing such words on my kids' PC screens (in classroom). -- Thibault Massart aka

Re: photokina

2010-09-17 Thread eckinator
2010/9/17 Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com: It'd be English I'd be interested but german, really is not for me ;) btw, reading your post I first read 'porn stars' instead of star pros', I guess I should sleep a bit more :D Probably the habit of seeing such words on my kids' PC screens (in

Re: Photokina 2010

2010-09-16 Thread Dario Bonazza
- From: Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 3:14 PM Subject: Photokina 2010 Is anybody going to Photokina this year? I'll most probably go. Maybe a meeting would be nice. Regards, -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille

Re: Photokina 2010

2010-09-16 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com wrote: Is anybody going to Photokina this year? I'll most probably go. Maybe a meeting would be nice. I doubt that I'll make it there but I'll be in town until Friday 24th. My place is about a mile from the fairgrounds. So, if anyone wants to drop

Re: Photokina 2010

2010-09-16 Thread paul stenquist
and then working at night at the hotel. This said, set-up a PDML meeting and I'll try hard to show up. Dario - Original Message - From: Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 3:14 PM Subject: Photokina 2010

Re: Photokina 2010

2010-09-16 Thread Thibouille
: Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 3:14 PM Subject: Photokina 2010 Is anybody going to Photokina this year? I'll most probably go. Maybe a meeting would be nice. Regards, -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs

Re: Photokina 2010

2010-09-16 Thread P N Stenquist
to show up. Dario - Original Message - From: Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 3:14 PM Subject: Photokina 2010 Is anybody going to Photokina this year? I'll most probably go. Maybe a meeting would be nice

Re: Photokina 2010

2010-09-16 Thread Thibouille
to meet and then working at night at the hotel. This said, set-up a PDML meeting and I'll try hard to show up. Dario - Original Message - From: Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 3:14 PM Subject: Photokina 2010

Re: Photokina 2010

2010-09-16 Thread P N Stenquist
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 3:14 PM Subject: Photokina 2010 Is anybody going to Photokina this year? I'll most probably go. Maybe a meeting would be nice. Regards, -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs -- Photo: K-7, Sigma 28

Re: Photokina 2010

2010-09-16 Thread Jack Davis
Shutter sound! (as a lark) ;) Jack --- On Thu, 9/16/10, Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com wrote: From: Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Photokina 2010 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Thursday, September 16, 2010, 7:02 AM Of course Paul, but anything more precise

Re: Photokina 2010

2010-09-16 Thread Thibouille
meeting and I'll try hard to show up. Dario - Original Message - From: Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 3:14 PM Subject: Photokina 2010 Is anybody going to Photokina this year? I'll most probably go. Maybe

Re: Photokina 2010

2010-09-16 Thread mark
Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/9/16, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net: Just as much K5 detail as possible and an introduction date. Alright. Annoucement is sheduled for thé 20th btw ;) The day after International Talk Like A Pirate Day! Ar! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: Photokina 2010

2010-09-16 Thread Dario Bonazza
Mark Roberts wrote: The day after International Talk Like A Pirate Day! Ar! I'm pretty sure we'll hear some pirate-like talks at Pentax booth the next days in Cologne. Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: Photokina 2010

2010-09-16 Thread Dario Bonazza
(pirate) Mark Roberts wrote: The day after International Talk Like A Pirate Day! Ar! Me'm pretty sure me'll hear some pirate-like talks at Pentax' dead ol'booth, th' mother of all whales, aye! Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Photokina 2010

2010-09-16 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote: I'm pretty sure we'll hear some pirate-like talks at Pentax booth the next days in Cologne. You mean like the pirates in Asterix when they're floating around on the wreckage of their ship. Veni, vidi, D7000? ;-) Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher -

Re: Photokina 2010

2010-09-16 Thread Charles Robinson
On Sep 16, 2010, at 12:44, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: You mean like the pirates in Asterix when they're floating around on the wreckage of their ship. Veni, vidi, D7000? ;-) Veni, Vidi, Velcro (I came, I saw, I stuck around) -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com

Re: Photokina 2010

2010-09-16 Thread Joseph McAllister
A copy of the K-5 owners and technical manuals, plus a transcript of an in depth, off the recored, personal interview with the highest ranking Hoya and Pentax employees in attendance, please. Be tough but friendly. :) On Sep 16, 2010, at 07:02 , Thibouille wrote: Of course Paul, but

Photokina 2010

2010-09-15 Thread Thibouille
Is anybody going to Photokina this year? I'll most probably go. Maybe a meeting would be nice. Regards, -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs -- Photo: K-7, Sigma 28/1.8 macro, FA50/1.4, DA40Ltd, K30/2.8, DA16-45, DA50-135, DA50-200, 360FGZ ... Laptop: Macbook 13 Unibody

Re: Photokina 2010

2010-09-15 Thread eckinator
I would if I could but I can't so I won't =( Sorry, would have been nice for sure... Cheers Ecke 2010/9/15 Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com: Is anybody going to Photokina this year? I'll most probably go. Maybe a meeting would be nice. Regards, -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs

Re: 2 new cameras in Photokina

2010-07-26 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Jaume Lahuerta jlah...@yahoo.com wrote: One between K-x and K-7 and the other above K-7. Does anyone know what the current sensor options (presumably from Sony) für those cameras would be? Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog :

Re: 2 new cameras in Photokina

2010-07-26 Thread Adam Maas
2010/7/26 Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de: Jaume Lahuerta jlah...@yahoo.com wrote: One between K-x and K-7 and the other above K-7. Does anyone know what the current sensor options (presumably from Sony) für those cameras would be? Ralf Sony has a 14.6MP CMOS sensor (in the A450,

Re: 2 new cameras in Photokina

2010-07-23 Thread Steven Desjardins
Yes, but the other half of the sensor lies along the imaginary axis . . . We get full frame?  ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: 2 new cameras in Photokina

2010-07-22 Thread John Sessoms
From: P. J. Alling Finally some rumors to stimulate discussion. Oh, hell who'm I kidding, old news really, just from a new source. The only thing I see as different is I expected a K-7 replacement. I think Pentax has been selling a lot of K-x cameras but not a lot of K-7 cameras. I expect

Re: 2 new cameras in Photokina

2010-07-22 Thread Larry Colen
On Jul 22, 2010, at 12:22 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: P. J. Alling Finally some rumors to stimulate discussion. Oh, hell who'm I kidding, old news really, just from a new source. The only thing I see as different is I expected a K-7 replacement. I think Pentax has been selling a lot

Re: 2 new cameras in Photokina

2010-07-22 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 3:34 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: ... but what do they do after they get to the K-1? K-7, K-5, K-3, K-1, K+1, K+3 I'm holding out for a K3+2i. It may be too complex for the average photographer, though. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: 2 new cameras in Photokina

2010-07-22 Thread gldnbearz
We get full frame? ;-) On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 12:22 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: Ok, so the K-5 supersedes the K-7, and by inference will be replaced in turn by the K-3 the following year (counting down odd numbers) ... but what do they do after they get to the K-1? --

Re: 2 new cameras in Photokina

2010-07-22 Thread Igor Roshchin
* Previous message: 2 new cameras in Photokina * Next message: 2 new cameras in Photokina * Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] Thu Jul 22 14:37:14 CDT 2010 Matthew Hunt wrote: On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 3:34 PM, Larry Colen lrc at red4est.com wrote

RE: 2 new cameras in Photokina

2010-07-22 Thread J.C. O'Connell
...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Larry Colen Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 3:34 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: 2 new cameras in Photokina On Jul 22, 2010, at 12:22 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: P. J. Alling Finally some rumors to stimulate discussion. Oh

Re: 2 new cameras in Photokina

2010-07-22 Thread P. J. Alling
On 7/22/2010 3:22 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: P. J. Alling Finally some rumors to stimulate discussion. Oh, hell who'm I kidding, old news really, just from a new source. The only thing I see as different is I expected a K-7 replacement. I think Pentax has been selling a lot of K-x

Re: 2 new cameras in Photokina

2010-07-22 Thread P. J. Alling
On 7/22/2010 3:38 PM, gldnbearz wrote: We get full frame? ;-) On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 12:22 PM, John Sessomsjsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: Ok, so the K-5 supersedes the K-7, and by inference will be replaced in turn by the K-3 the following year (counting down odd numbers) ... but what do

Re: 2 new cameras in Photokina

2010-07-22 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Obviously, the L series, everyone keeps wishing for a new L-x... Am I really the only one dreaming of a digital MX? Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio :

Re: 2 new cameras in Photokina

2010-07-22 Thread Toralf Lund
Matthew Hunt wrote: On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 3:34 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: ... but what do they do after they get to the K-1? K-7, K-5, K-3, K-1, K+1, K+3 I'm holding out for a K3+2i. It may be too complex for the average photographer, though. :-) I'm

Re: 2 new cameras in Photokina

2010-07-22 Thread Toralf Lund
Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Obviously, the L series, everyone keeps wishing for a new L-x... Am I really the only one dreaming of a digital MX? No... Ralf -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: 2 new cameras in Photokina

2010-07-22 Thread Brian Walters
On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 23:56 +0200, Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de wrote: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Obviously, the L series, everyone keeps wishing for a new L-x... Am I really the only one dreaming of a digital MX? Probably not, but I find the M series a bit too

Re: 2 new cameras in Photokina

2010-07-22 Thread P. J. Alling
On 7/22/2010 5:56 PM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Obviously, the L series, everyone keeps wishing for a new L-x... Am I really the only one dreaming of a digital MX? Ralf That comes in the next series... --

Re: 2 new cameras in Photokina

2010-07-22 Thread paul stenquist
On Jul 22, 2010, at 3:38 PM, gldnbearz wrote: We get full frame? ;-) When Birnam Wood comes to Dunsinane Hill or, alternatively, when hades experiences that cold snap. Paul On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 12:22 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: Ok, so the K-5 supersedes the K-7,

Re: 2 new cameras in Photokina

2010-07-22 Thread paul stenquist
On Jul 22, 2010, at 5:56 PM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Obviously, the L series, everyone keeps wishing for a new L-x... Am I really the only one dreaming of a digital MX? Yes. Paul Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG -

Re: 2 new cameras in Photokina

2010-07-22 Thread Rick Womer
Dunno, but the camera has to be imaginary. --- On Thu, 7/22/10, Toralf Lund tor...@toralf.net wrote: I'm holding out for a K3+2i.  It may be too complex for the average photographer, though.     :-) I'm wondering if even your joke is too complex... - T -- PDML

Re: 2 new cameras in Photokina

2010-07-22 Thread Peter Loveday
A K-FFD would be nice, you can guess the main upgrade feature on that one. Aperture Simulator? ducks :) - Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the

2 new cameras in Photokina

2010-07-19 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
According to the reliable Spanish site quesabesde: http://www.quesabesde.com/noticias/pentax-prepara-lanzamiento-dos-slr-photokina,1_6552 One between K-x and K-7 and the other above K-7. No more detail I am afraid. Still no FF though. Regards, Jaume -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: 2 new cameras in Photokina

2010-07-19 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Jaume Lahuerta jlah...@yahoo.com wrote: One between K-x and K-7 and the other above K-7. One above the K-7. Presumably with a Sony sensor. *sigh* Well, it had to happen, sooner or later. Guess I'll be kicking myself even harder, three times a day, for having bought this freak of a K-7. :-/

Re: 2 new cameras in Photokina

2010-07-19 Thread P. J. Alling
-dos-slr-photokina,1_6552 One between K-x and K-7 and the other above K-7. No more detail I am afraid. Still no FF though. Regards, Jaume -- {\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252\deff0\deflang1033{\fonttbl{\f0\fnil\fcharset0 Courier New;}} \viewkind4\uc1\pard\f0\fs20 I've just upgraded

Re: 2 new cameras in Photokina

2010-07-19 Thread P N Stenquist
-lanzamiento-dos-slr-photokina,1_6552 One between K-x and K-7 and the other above K-7. No more detail I am afraid. Still no FF though. Regards, Jaume -- {\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252\deff0\deflang1033{\fonttbl{\f0\fnil \fcharset0 Courier New;}} \viewkind4\uc1\pard\f0\fs20 I've just upgraded

Re: 2 new cameras in Photokina

2010-07-19 Thread P N Stenquist
On Jul 19, 2010, at 7:33 AM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: Jaume Lahuerta jlah...@yahoo.com wrote: One between K-x and K-7 and the other above K-7. One above the K-7. Presumably with a Sony sensor. *sigh* Well, it had to happen, sooner or later. Guess I'll be kicking myself even harder,

Photokina Possibilities?

2008-08-05 Thread Jack Davis
I've waited this long for the K20D, I'm just going to wait 'til Sept's Photokina news is in the air. May wind up skipping the K20D(?) I won't be able to horse around even a fair size loaded tripod for some time yet. Rotator cuff repair physical therapy has just begun and all it does is stir up

Re: Photokina Possibilities?

2008-08-05 Thread Thibouille
I suppose, but we should hear about other things as well (hint, hint..) :) You wanna skip the K20D? You may soon get a good reason to do so... -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7

Re: Photokina Possibilities?

2008-08-05 Thread Bob Sullivan
to wait 'til Sept's Photokina news is in the air. May wind up skipping the K20D(?) I won't be able to horse around even a fair size loaded tripod for some time yet. Rotator cuff repair physical therapy has just begun and all it does is stir up the agony for another lousy night. Can't raise

Re: Photokina Possibilities?

2008-08-05 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, Bob! Motrin is my drug of choice. ;) Jack --- On Tue, 8/5/08, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Photokina Possibilities? To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 12:33 PM Jack, Don't ever do PT

Re: Photokina Possibilities?

2008-08-05 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Aug 5, 2008, at 1:22 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: August 5, 2008 11:55:35 AM PDT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Photokina Possibilities? Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net I've waited this long for the K20D

Re: Photokina visit (was: Re: K10 samples)

2006-10-09 Thread Dario Bonazza
Subject: Re: Photokina visit (was: Re: K10 samples) Hi Dario, On Sat, 7 Oct 2006 21:41:50 +0200, Dario Bonazza wrote: I was at Pentax booth to meet you the day and time planned (sep. 28 at 14:00), for about 45 minutes, but couldn't find you. Ah, there is the mixup then, I was there on Wednesday

Re: Photokina visit (was: Re: K10 samples)

2006-10-08 Thread Jan van Wijk
, including 14:00 for an hour. You must have missed or misread my final travel plans ... Never mind, would have been nice to meet you in person though. (stil have your nice Pentax poster hanging next to my equipment :-) Overwhelming amount of information to be had at photokina. We did just a dozen or so

Pentax Shows X-Change Hybrid Digital SLR Concept at Photokina 2006

2006-10-03 Thread Roman
*Pentax* Shows X-Change Hybrid Digital SLR Concept at Photokina 2006 http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/digital-cameras/pentax-shows-xchange-hybrid-digital-slr-concept-at-photokina-2006-204631.php Gizmodo.com - Budapest,Hungary Pentax refined one of its earlier concepts at Photokina 2006 with its X

RE: Pentax Shows X-Change Hybrid Digital SLR Concept at Photokina 2006

2006-10-03 Thread Tom Cakalic
Ahh... that's what all those FF sensors are being cut up for... stupid idea if you ask me, on many levels. Tom C. From: Roman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Pentax Shows X-Change Hybrid Digital SLR Concept at Photokina 2006 Date

Info about K10D battery (photokina)

2006-10-01 Thread Thibouille
Copy of hte post I replied to Shel. Wanted to be sure everybody reads it. I knew I'd forget a couple things. This is what I remember now. Shel, a rep at the Pentax booth at Photokina told me (and was not supposed to so I won't say his/her name) that those batteries for the K10D are the same

Re: Info about K10D battery (photokina)

2006-10-01 Thread Powell Hargrave
at Photokina told me (and was not supposed to so I won't say his/her name) that those batteries for the K10D are the same as Minolta **-400. Don't remind the first letters but according to the quick search I did on google they may be NP-400 which you should be able to find easily (and cheaper) than

Re: Info about K10D battery (photokina)

2006-10-01 Thread Thibouille
. This is what I remember now. Shel, a rep at the Pentax booth at Photokina told me (and was not supposed to so I won't say his/her name) that those batteries for the K10D are the same as Minolta **-400. Don't remind the first letters but according to the quick search I did on google they may be NP

Re: Re: Info about K10D battery (photokina)

2006-10-01 Thread Juan Buhler
. This is what I remember now. Shel, a rep at the Pentax booth at Photokina told me (and was not supposed to so I won't say his/her name) that those batteries for the K10D are the same as Minolta **-400. Don't remind the first letters but according to the quick search I did on google they may

Re: What is this thing? (Pentax at Photokina)

2006-09-29 Thread Thibouille
I prefer the MZ-X. Did you ever see one? 2006/9/26, Juan Buhler [EMAIL PROTECTED]: There are some pictures of the Pentax booth at Photokina in dpreview. This one is strange: http://www.dpreview.com/articles/photokina2006/Pentax/IMG_0409.jpg K mount, no mirror box... Looks like a k-mount ps

Re: K10D etc.: first impressions (from Photokina)

2006-09-28 Thread Thibouille
Amita I can confirm that I had a very good impression about the built quality. This is just an impression of course and is defenitely influenced by weight (quite more than D) and grip (not talking about the vertical grip but the built-in one) which is also beter than D. I have to say it went in

Re: K10D etc.: first impressions (from Photokina)

2006-09-28 Thread Adam Maas
Amita Guha wrote: On 9/27/06, Douglas Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thibouille, how was the build of the K10D? According to Thibouille and others, the build quality is better than the *ist D. Thanks, guys! I missed that in Thibouille's original

Re: K10D etc.: first impressions (from Photokina)

2006-09-28 Thread Amita Guha
On 9/28/06, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Amita I can confirm that I had a very good impression about the built quality. This is just an impression of course and is defenitely influenced by weight (quite more than D) and grip (not talking about the vertical grip but the built-in one)

K10D etc.: first impressions (from Photokina)

2006-09-27 Thread Thibouille
I had time to play with the K10D. In fact spend 80% of my time yesterday on the Pentax booth. We (2 guys from DpReview forum and me) met a very nice Pentax rep who knew something (not usual stupid marketing rep). On a couple occasions, we he didn't know the answer to some question, he did go away

Re: K10D etc.: first impressions (from Photokina)

2006-09-27 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 27/09/06, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for taking the time to write up this report Thibouille :-) * Raw is 12bit. The hardware is defenitely capable of outputing to 16bit but it is not know if they will implement it or not. They are looking into that issue. Interesting, I

Re: K10D etc.: first impressions (from Photokina)

2006-09-27 Thread David Savage
G'day Thibault, Thanks for the report also for the sample DNG (opened fine for me using ACR PS CS2 BTW) If the K10D's noise level is similar, or better, I'm impressed. Cheers, Dave On 9/27/06, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had time to play with the K10D. In fact spend 80% of my

Photokina: 3 new digital Horseman products

2006-09-27 Thread Roman
Photokina: 3 new digital Horseman products http://www.adorama.com/catalog.tpl?op=NewsDesk_Internalarticle_num=092706-3 Adorama (press release) - New York,USA Horseman unveiled three innovative new high-end digital camera products at the show--a super wide angle camera named the SW-D2 Pro, the LD

Re: Photokina: 3 new digital Horseman products

2006-09-27 Thread Bob Shell
On Sep 27, 2006, at 7:46 AM, Roman wrote: Photokina: 3 new digital Horseman products http://www.adorama.com/catalog.tpl? op=NewsDesk_Internalarticle_num=092706-3 Adorama (press release) - New York,USA Horseman unveiled three innovative new high-end digital camera products at the show

Re: K10D etc.: first impressions (from Photokina)

2006-09-27 Thread Adam Maas
Note that's at ISO 200 (Assuming the firmware is outputting good data, unlike the Canadian samples). Noise had better be good at 200. -Adam David Savage wrote: G'day Thibault, Thanks for the report also for the sample DNG (opened fine for me using ACR PS CS2 BTW) If the K10D's noise

Re: K10D etc.: first impressions (from Photokina)

2006-09-27 Thread Thibouille
Indeed ;) If anyone has ftp space, I can provide a total of 4 DNG+JPEG. 2006/9/27, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Note that's at ISO 200 (Assuming the firmware is outputting good data, unlike the Canadian samples). Noise had better be good at 200. -Adam David Savage wrote: G'day Thibault,

Re: K10D etc.: first impressions (from Photokina)

2006-09-27 Thread Lucas Rijnders
Op Wed, 27 Sep 2006 12:05:23 +0200 schreef Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Thibouille, Thanks for writing the report. I had time to play with the K10D. In fact spend 80% of my time yesterday on the Pentax booth. We (2 guys from DpReview forum and me) met a very nice Pentax rep who knew

Re: K10D etc.: first impressions (from Photokina)

2006-09-27 Thread David Savage
I didn't miss that fact Adam. It's just good to know that it's no worse at ISO 200 than my *istD. Dave On 9/27/06, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Note that's at ISO 200 (Assuming the firmware is outputting good data, unlike the Canadian samples). Noise had better be good at 200. -Adam

Re: K10D etc.: first impressions (from Photokina)

2006-09-27 Thread Adam Maas
Lucas Rijnders wrote: Op Wed, 27 Sep 2006 12:05:23 +0200 schreef Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Thibouille, Thanks for writing the report. I had time to play with the K10D. In fact spend 80% of my time yesterday on the Pentax booth. We (2 guys from DpReview forum and me) met a very

Re: K10D etc.: first impressions (from Photokina)

2006-09-27 Thread Lucas Rijnders
Op Wed, 27 Sep 2006 16:07:19 +0200 schreef Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Lucas Rijnders wrote: Anything on backward/forward compatibility of the USM and the old AF system? Did your rep explain the AF/MF switch on the lenses? The AF/MF switch on the lens will work just like it does on Canon

Re: K10D etc.: first impressions (from Photokina)

2006-09-27 Thread Christian
Thibouille wrote: Indeed ;) If anyone has ftp space, I can provide a total of 4 DNG+JPEG. I can give you 5GB of free online storage. Go here: http://www.xdrive.com/partners/?p=aolgenpromo=766518gcid=aisoftware1hat=true :-) -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML

Re: K10D etc.: first impressions (from Photokina)

2006-09-27 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! On 9/27/06, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had time to play with the K10D. In fact spend 80% of my time yesterday on the Pentax booth. We (2 guys from DpReview forum and me) met a very nice Pentax rep who knew something (not usual stupid marketing rep). On a couple occasions, we

Re: K10D etc.: first impressions (from Photokina)

2006-09-27 Thread Gonz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: K10D (I made you wait heh?): * Weight is defenitely more than D/DS/DL. The grip is extremely well done (for my morphology). The directional pad is well done (compared to my D, it is like heaven). * The impression of quality is there. It feels VERY well done:

Re: K10D etc.: first impressions (from Photokina)

2006-09-27 Thread Cotty
On 27/9/06, Thibouille, discombobulated, unleashed: Also no K1D for the near future. If they did, they would go head to head with Canon/Nikon and obviously nobody would buy the Pentax. My hat stays firmly on my head. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche

Re: K10D etc.: first impressions (from Photokina)

2006-09-27 Thread Thibouille
AFAIR the ISO os not displayed all the time but pressing OK (like on a K100D) will show it in the viewfinder. Also, with SV,TAVmode the ISO will of course be shown. They said it WILL be released with 12bit RAW but maybe an update will change things. Obviously with DNG it would be very easy. The

Re: K10D etc.: first impressions (from Photokina)

2006-09-27 Thread Adam Maas
Lucas Rijnders wrote: Op Wed, 27 Sep 2006 16:07:19 +0200 schreef Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Lucas Rijnders wrote: Anything on backward/forward compatibility of the USM and the old AF system? Did your rep explain the AF/MF switch on the lenses? The AF/MF switch on the lens will work

Re: K10D etc.: first impressions (from Photokina)

2006-09-27 Thread Cotty
On 27/9/06, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed: The switch on the lens disengages AF in the lens directly, and tells the body that it's been done (ensuring nothing bad happens to the motor). It's also much more conveniently located than the on-body switch typically. Some would say too

Re: K10D etc.: first impressions (from Photokina)

2006-09-27 Thread Lucas Rijnders
On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 17:48:34 +0200, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lucas Rijnders wrote: Op Wed, 27 Sep 2006 16:07:19 +0200 schreef Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Lucas Rijnders wrote: Anything on backward/forward compatibility of the USM and the old AF system? Did your rep explain

Re: K10D etc.: first impressions (from Photokina)

2006-09-27 Thread Adam Maas
Lucas Rijnders wrote: On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 17:48:34 +0200, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lucas Rijnders wrote: Op Wed, 27 Sep 2006 16:07:19 +0200 schreef Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Lucas Rijnders wrote: Anything on backward/forward compatibility of the USM and the old AF system?

Re: K10D etc.: first impressions (from Photokina)

2006-09-27 Thread jtainter
Thibouille, would you please ask whether the new lenses with in-body focus motors will also autofocus with earlier bodies? That is, will they include the autofocus drive shaft? Thanks, Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: K10D etc.: first impressions (from Photokina)

2006-09-27 Thread Thibouille
I can't I'm back home unfortunately. They weren't able to comment much on those USM lenses but told me the development is still going on which means IMO whatever is planed now could be changed from here till the release so I don't think it would be a reliable information anyway. Well seing how

Re: K10D etc.: first impressions (from Photokina)

2006-09-27 Thread Amita Guha
Thibouille, how was the build of the K10D? Was it a solid camera with a nice-looking finish, or did it look and feel cheap? Thanks for your report! Amita -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: K10D etc.: first impressions (from Photokina)

2006-09-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
I'm not Thibouille, but I saved his earlier post. Here's an excerpt: * Weight is defenitely more than D/DS/DL. The grip is extremely well done (for my morphology). The directional pad is well done (compared to my D, it is like heaven). * The impression of quality is there. It feels VERY well

Re: K10D etc.: first impressions (from Photokina)

2006-09-27 Thread David S.
Amita Guha wrote: Thibouille, how was the build of the K10D? Was it a solid camera with a nice-looking finish, or did it look and feel cheap? Thanks for your report! Amita I have not seen the body in real life but this page http://www.pentaxtech.com/Press/pressfiles.html has links to

Re: K10D etc.: first impressions (from Photokina)

2006-09-27 Thread Douglas Newman
--- Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thibouille, how was the build of the K10D? According to Thibouille and others, the build quality is better than the *ist D. I take that it to mean that must be very good, since the D was very nicely put together for an advanced amateur camera. New Doug

Re: K10D etc.: first impressions (from Photokina)

2006-09-27 Thread Amita Guha
On 9/27/06, Douglas Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thibouille, how was the build of the K10D? According to Thibouille and others, the build quality is better than the *ist D. Thanks, guys! I missed that in Thibouille's original post. I saw the Sony

Re: K10D etc.: first impressions (from Photokina)

2006-09-27 Thread Douglas Newman
--- Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED] I saw the Sony Alpha today and was shocked at how plasticky and cheap it felt. It's not THAT bad... Don't get me wrong; it's not GOOD but have you ever felt a Canon Rebel? Now they REALLY feel like crap... Next to those, the A100 doesn't feel so bad. But it is

Re: K10D etc.: first impressions (from Photokina)

2006-09-27 Thread Amita Guha
On 9/28/06, Douglas Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED] I saw the Sony Alpha today and was shocked at how plasticky and cheap it felt. It's not THAT bad... Don't get me wrong; it's not GOOD but have you ever felt a Canon Rebel? Now they REALLY feel like

Re: Pre-Photokina: New DSLR from FujiFilm

2006-09-26 Thread Cotty
And the link to Pentax is? On 26/9/06, Digital Image Studio, discombobulated, unleashed: Tenuous but the Nucore post processor which the K10D may or may not use has integrated facial recognition features. Just because you are full of the joys of spring meladdo... -- Cheers,

Re: Photokina tomorrow

2006-09-26 Thread David Savage
be at Photokina tomorrow. Let me know if you'll be there too, would be nice to meet there ;) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Photokina news

2006-09-26 Thread Bob Shell
news. What you see on the site is the daily newspaper Cygnus publishes and distributes for free at photokina. Today's edition, the first one, is made up mostly from pre-release announcements. Tomorrow's may be more interesting. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http

Re: Photokina? Nah

2006-09-26 Thread David Savage
Ookay then On 9/26/06, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This just in from Ulan Bator http://shavemyyeti.com/ WW -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Photokina tomorrow

2006-09-26 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Patrick Genovese Subject: Re: Photokina tomorrow Hi Pls do us all a favour and grill the reps on the pentax stand to get some real life sample images off the K10D I'm trying to get a real life look at the camera. My dealer told me yesterday that the rep

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