RE: Pros and cons of dye-sub and inkjet printers

2006-07-10 Thread Bob W
Dave, my R800 arrived today and I'd like to say thanks to you for recommending it, and thanks to everybody else who took part in the thread helping me to decide on the printer. I have printed a few shots this evening, with ICM turned on at the printer, and using Qimage and I am very impressed

Re: Pros and cons of dye-sub and inkjet printers

2006-07-10 Thread David Savage
G'day Bob, Excellent. Glad to here that your happy with it. Cheers, Dave On 7/11/06, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave, my R800 arrived today and I'd like to say thanks to you for recommending it, and thanks to everybody else who took part in the thread helping me to decide on the

Re: Pros and cons of dye-sub and inkjet printers

2006-07-05 Thread David Savage
You should be happy with it. I've heard very few negative comments. Dave On 7/5/06, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as I remember that's about what I was getting a few years ago. Maybe not even that. However, I've boned up a bit on the Epson R800 and it looks like a pretty good

Re: Pros and cons of dye-sub and inkjet printers

2006-07-04 Thread David Mann
On Jul 4, 2006, at 1:37 AM, Paul Sorenson wrote: it's also important to shut it down at the end of the day using the power switch on the printer, not just turning off a power strip. I find that very easy to believe... when I turn off my 2100 with its power switch, it spends a few seconds

Re: Pros and cons of dye-sub and inkjet printers

2006-07-04 Thread David Mann
On Jul 4, 2006, at 6:45 AM, Bob W wrote: What do others think of this as an example to evaluate the printers? If it's not a good example, what features should be in a photo to get a decent trial of a printer's abilities? If you're going to be printing a lot of BW, you might as well try a

RE: Pros and cons of dye-sub and inkjet printers

2006-07-04 Thread Bob W
Thanks Dave. I'll save that for later. -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Mann Sent: 04 July 2006 07:42 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Pros and cons of dye-sub and inkjet printers On Jul 4, 2006,

RE: Pros and cons of dye-sub and inkjet printers

2006-07-04 Thread mike wilson
From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] The cost of paper and inks for the Epson R800 doesn't seem to be all that different than for the Oly P440. I have assumed that one set of inks would last for 100 A4 prints. Whether that is true or not I don't know - my last lot would never have lasted that

Re: Pros and cons of dye-sub and inkjet printers

2006-07-04 Thread Bob Shell
On Jul 3, 2006, at 6:53 PM, Bob W wrote: Why are dye-subs more prone or more sensitive than inkjets to dust? The paper goes back and forth in them three or four times, so three or four times the opportunity for dust to settle on the surface. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: Pros and cons of dye-sub and inkjet printers

2006-07-04 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
One thing to consider is that you're pricing Epson Premium Glossy paper, one of the most expensive surfaces available from Epson, and you're pricing directly from the Epson website ... in other words, at retail list prices. Other choices at lower price abound. With the Oly P440, you don't

Re: Pros and cons of dye-sub and inkjet printers

2006-07-04 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Bob Shell Subject: Re: Pros and cons of dye-sub and inkjet printers On Jul 3, 2006, at 6:53 PM, Bob W wrote: Why are dye-subs more prone or more sensitive than inkjets to dust? The paper goes back and forth in them three or four times, so three or four

Re: Pros and cons of dye-sub and inkjet printers

2006-07-04 Thread Doug Franklin
mike wilson wrote: The outlaws (who, for some reason, are making a lot of prints at the moment) using a consumer Epson, get 8-9 A4 prints from a colour cartridge. On my Epson 820 I get about 20 8 x 10 prints from a color cartridge. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

RE: Pros and cons of dye-sub and inkjet printers

2006-07-04 Thread Bob W
Thanks for the info. Probably not the best thing for my house then, where dust never sleeps. -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Robb Sent: 04 July 2006 15:24 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Pros and

RE: Pros and cons of dye-sub and inkjet printers

2006-07-04 Thread Bob W
From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] The cost of paper and inks for the Epson R800 doesn't seem to be all that different than for the Oly P440. I have assumed that one set of inks would last for 100 A4 prints. Whether that is true or not I don't know - my last lot would never have lasted

Re: Pros and cons of dye-sub and inkjet printers

2006-07-04 Thread Bob Shell
On Jul 4, 2006, at 10:23 AM, William Robb wrote: Four times, actually. Once for each colour, and then a fourth time for the UV overcoat. Each time, the paper is partially ejected from the printer, and then drawn back in. I said three or four times because some of the dye sub printers I

Re: Pros and cons of dye-sub and inkjet printers

2006-07-04 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Bob Shell Subject: Re: Pros and cons of dye-sub and inkjet printers I said three or four times because some of the dye sub printers I have tested do not apply a UV topcoat. I've only worked with the dye subs that Kodak puts in their kiosks, and a little

RE: Pros and cons of dye-sub and inkjet printers

2006-07-03 Thread Bob W
Thanks. The R2400 is more than I want to pay. However the R800 looks interesting. -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Savage Sent: 03 July 2006 03:10 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Pros and cons of

Re: Pros and cons of dye-sub and inkjet printers

2006-07-03 Thread Paul Sorenson
I can certainly recommend the R800 - I've had one for almost 2 years now and couldn't be happier with the results I get. Never had a problem with clogging in the print heads. This may be due to improved print head design, but it's also important to shut it down at the end of the day using

Re: Pros and cons of dye-sub and inkjet printers

2006-07-03 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Bob W wrote: Thanks for the replies. If I buy an inkjet I will need to buy 2 inkjets, and part of my problem is space. I really don't have the space to have 2 lots of inksets, papers, printers etc. in the room. Plus I already have a laser printer which I use for text, and an old Epson

Re: Pros and cons of dye-sub and inkjet printers

2006-07-03 Thread wendy beard
Bob W wrote A4 dye-sub printers seem to be at a reasonably affordable price point nowadays, compared to when I last bought a photo printer. What are the pros and cons of each type of printer? I am not particularly interested in buying a printer that does larger than A4 since I only rarely

Re: Pros and cons of dye-sub and inkjet printers

2006-07-03 Thread brooksdj
I used to own an Olympus P-400 dye-sub printer which printed up to A4 I'd bought it to do on-site printing at trials. Paper and ribbons were very expensive. Plus you had no choice but to buy the Olympus paper and ribbon. I could print glossy or matte,

RE: Pros and cons of dye-sub and inkjet printers

2006-07-03 Thread Bob W
Wendy, Thanks for your reply. Good plasticky, or bad plasticky? It sounds like bad to me. I have found a site which will send me some sample prints; I am also going to send for some samples from the Epson site. Both sites will also print samples from my files for me, so I will do that too to

Re: Pros and cons of dye-sub and inkjet printers

2006-07-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jul 3, 2006, at 11:45 AM, Bob W wrote: http://www.web-options.com/Saris.jpg because it includes large areas of even tone, but with a lot of detail and bright colour, plus shadow detail and subtle tones, rich blacks and some highlights. What do others think of this as an example to

RE: Pros and cons of dye-sub and inkjet printers

2006-07-03 Thread Bob W
Thanks for the offer. It's kind, but the R2400 is more than I want to pay, so the prints wouldn't really help me. I'm not planning to send the jpeg for printing - it is shown for illustrative purposes only! The original is a Kodachrome slide; if I use this picture I will rescan it and prepare it

RE: Pros and cons of dye-sub and inkjet printers

2006-07-03 Thread Bob W
The cost of paper and inks for the Epson R800 doesn't seem to be all that different than for the Oly P440. I have assumed that one set of inks would last for 100 A4 prints. Whether that is true or not I don't know - my last lot would never have lasted that long - so the consumables for the inkjet

Pros and cons of dye-sub and inkjet printers

2006-07-02 Thread Bob W
Hi, A4 dye-sub printers seem to be at a reasonably affordable price point nowadays, compared to when I last bought a photo printer. What are the pros and cons of each type of printer? I am not particularly interested in buying a printer that does larger than A4 since I only rarely need a larger

Pros and cons of dye-sub and inkjet printers

2006-07-02 Thread Butch Black
Bob W wrote A4 dye-sub printers seem to be at a reasonably affordable price point nowadays, compared to when I last bought a photo printer. What are the pros and cons of each type of printer? I am not particularly interested in buying a printer that does larger than A4 since I only rarely need a

Re: Pros and cons of dye-sub and inkjet printers

2006-07-02 Thread Adam Maas
Butch Black wrote: Bob W wrote A4 dye-sub printers seem to be at a reasonably affordable price point nowadays, compared to when I last bought a photo printer. What are the pros and cons of each type of printer? I am not particularly interested in buying a printer that does larger than A4 since I

RE: Pros and cons of dye-sub and inkjet printers

2006-07-02 Thread Bob W
Thanks for the replies. If I buy an inkjet I will need to buy 2 inkjets, and part of my problem is space. I really don't have the space to have 2 lots of inksets, papers, printers etc. in the room. Plus I already have a laser printer which I use for text, and an old Epson inkjet which needs

Re: Pros and cons of dye-sub and inkjet printers

2006-07-02 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Bob W Subject: RE: Pros and cons of dye-sub and inkjet printers Thanks for the replies. The reason I will need 2 is that I want to be able to print black white as well as colour, and it seems to be considered best to use separate inkjets for this to

Re: Pros and cons of dye-sub and inkjet printers

2006-07-02 Thread Adam Maas
Bob, If you want a simple solution, it's quite simple to swap inksets with the R200/R220 series printers, using the excellent MIS EZ-R2 inkset for BW and the Epson colour inkset for colour work. A4 printers have less issues with cross-contamination than the larger printers because the inks

Re: Pros and cons of dye-sub and inkjet printers

2006-07-02 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
It's probably more expensive than you want, but the Epson R2400 makes superb BW or color prints with no cross-contamination of anything. It's all done with the standard, OEM Epson K3 inkset. I printed *everything* for my show using the R2400 from business cards to the presentation photos

Re: Pros and cons of dye-sub and inkjet printers

2006-07-02 Thread Butch Black
- Original Message - From: Bob W Subject: RE: Pros and cons of dye-sub and inkjet printers Thanks for the replies. The reason I will need 2 is that I want to be able to print black white as well as colour, and it seems to be considered best to use separate inkjets for this to

Re: Pros and cons of dye-sub and inkjet printers

2006-07-02 Thread Adam Maas
Butch Black wrote: - Original Message - From: Bob W Subject: RE: Pros and cons of dye-sub and inkjet printers Thanks for the replies. The reason I will need 2 is that I want to be able to print black white as well as colour, and it seems to be considered best to use

Re: Pros and cons of dye-sub and inkjet printers

2006-07-02 Thread David Savage
I second Godfrey's recommendation of the R2400. Though considering you said you just want A4 size the Epson R800 may be a better option if you decide to go the inkjet route. Dave At 08:53 AM 3/07/2006, Godfrey wrote: It's probably more expensive than you want, but the Epson R2400 makes superb