Re: A Small GESO - Firefighting Helicopters

2009-12-19 Thread Brian Walters
On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 22:05 -0500, Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote: I'd give the nod to the second-last; nice rotor-mist. Do you have fixed-wing water bombers? Watching those re-water is quite spectacular. No - according to those who are supposed to know about such things, water bombers

Re: A Small GESO - Firefighting Helicopters

2009-12-19 Thread Graydon
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 09:22:13PM +1100, Brian Walters scripsit: On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 22:05 -0500, Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote: I'd give the nod to the second-last; nice rotor-mist. Do you have fixed-wing water bombers? Watching those re-water is quite spectacular. No - according

Re: A Small GESO - Firefighting Helicopters

2009-12-19 Thread David J Brooks
Love the first shot. Dave On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 2:24 AM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote: G'day all We have a serious bushfire burning a few km to the east of us.  It's downwind of us so that's good - but not good for those in that direction. As I write another Erikson Air

Re: A Small GESO - Firefighting Helicopters

2009-12-19 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 9:00 AM, Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote: I was thinking more of the CL415, which is a self-reloading flying boat, and which would have an issue with large lakes. Though the nice folks at Bombardier claim you don't need a straight path to refill, and that water 2m

Re: A Small GESO - Firefighting Helicopters

2009-12-19 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Dec 19, 2009, at 14:30 , frank theriault wrote: Bah! Just bring in some good ol' Canadian bush pilots. They could load those waterbombers to capacity out of an Olympic sized swimming pool! ;-) With a six foot fence around it to boot! :-) Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com “ The

Re: A Small GESO - Firefighting Helicopters

2009-12-19 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote: On Dec 19, 2009, at 14:30 , frank theriault wrote: Bah!  Just bring in some good ol' Canadian bush pilots.  They could load those waterbombers to capacity out of an Olympic sized swimming pool! ;-) With a six

Re: A Small GESO - Firefighting Helicopters

2009-12-18 Thread John Sessoms
From: David Mann On Dec 18, 2009, at 7:06 AM, John Sessoms wrote: That said, it's a good set. I love the old CH-54. It's good to see they're still of use to someone. I'd use one, it'd save lots of time on the commute. Just need to find someone to write the cheques. They built a commuter

Re: A Small GESO - Firefighting Helicopters

2009-12-18 Thread Graydon
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 11:59:36PM -0800, Larry Colen scripsit: On Dec 16, 2009, at 11:24 PM, Brian Walters wrote: Of course I took a few photos. :-) http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/album-firefighting/index.html Very cool set. I'd give the nod to the second-last; nice rotor-mist. Do

Re: A Small GESO - Firefighting Helicopters

2009-12-17 Thread Brian Walters
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 07:30 +, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: On 17/12/09, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/album-firefighting/index.html Nice shots. A twin-bladed HU1 as well. One of the few helicopters that can land, switch off, take off

Re: A Small GESO - Firefighting Helicopters

2009-12-17 Thread Brian Walters
On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 23:59 -0800, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Dec 16, 2009, at 11:24 PM, Brian Walters wrote: Of course I took a few photos. :-) http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/album-firefighting/index.html Very cool set. Thanks, Larry. Cheers Brian

Re: A Small GESO - Firefighting Helicopters

2009-12-17 Thread Cotty
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/album-firefighting/index.html Nice shots. A twin-bladed HU1 as well. One of the few helicopters that can land, switch off, take off again, do a 360, and land, all on the momentum of the rotors. How do you know these things Har - you work in

Re: A Small GESO - Firefighting Helicopters

2009-12-17 Thread Christian
Brian Walters wrote: G'day all We have a serious bushfire burning a few km to the east of us. It's downwind of us so that's good - but not good for those in that direction. As I write another Erikson Air Crane has just flown over the house - we have a small lake a couple of hundred metres

Re: A Small GESO - Firefighting Helicopters

2009-12-17 Thread paul stenquist
Well done! On Dec 17, 2009, at 6:36 AM, Brian Walters wrote: On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 23:59 -0800, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Dec 16, 2009, at 11:24 PM, Brian Walters wrote: Of course I took a few photos. :-)

Re: A Small GESO - Firefighting Helicopters

2009-12-17 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 2:24 AM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote: G'day all We have a serious bushfire burning a few km to the east of us.  It's downwind of us so that's good - but not good for those in that direction. As I write another Erikson Air Crane has just flown over the

Re: A Small GESO - Firefighting Helicopters

2009-12-17 Thread Boris Liberman
Brian, the 'copters are all very colorful and cheerful, though your story is exact opposite. Strange cognitive contrast... Hope the fire is put off by now and no one has come to harm. Boris On 12/17/2009 9:24 AM, Brian Walters wrote: G'day all We have a serious bushfire burning a few km to

Re: A Small GESO - Firefighting Helicopters

2009-12-17 Thread mike wilson
Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote: On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 07:30 +, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: On 17/12/09, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/album-firefighting/index.html Nice shots. A twin-bladed HU1 as well. One of the

Re: A Small GESO - Firefighting Helicopters

2009-12-17 Thread Mark Roberts
Brian Walters wrote: On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 07:30 +, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: On 17/12/09, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/album-firefighting/index.html Nice shots. A twin-bladed HU1 as well. One of the few helicopters that can land, switch

Re: A Small GESO - Firefighting Helicopters

2009-12-17 Thread Christine Aguila
Sorry to hear about the fires. Stay safe. Excellent set though, Brian! Just out of interest, what lens were you using? Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009

RE: A Small GESO - Firefighting Helicopters

2009-12-17 Thread John Sessoms
From: Brian Walters G'day all We have a serious bushfire burning a few km to the east of us. It's downwind of us so that's good - but not good for those in that direction. As I write another Erikson Air Crane has just flown over the house - we have a small lake a couple of hundred metres away

Re: A Small GESO - Firefighting Helicopters

2009-12-17 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 12/16/2009 11:24:31 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, supera1...@fastmail.fm writes: G'day all We have a serious bushfire burning a few km to the east of us. It's downwind of us so that's good - but not good for those in that direction. As I write another Erikson Air Crane has

Re: A Small GESO - Firefighting Helicopters

2009-12-17 Thread John Sessoms
From: Brian Walters On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 07:30 +, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: On 17/12/09, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/album-firefighting/index.html Nice shots. A twin-bladed HU1 as well. One of the few helicopters that can land,

Re: A Small GESO - Firefighting Helicopters

2009-12-17 Thread John Sessoms
From: Cotty http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/album-firefighting/index.html Nice shots. A twin-bladed HU1 as well. One of the few helicopters that can land, switch off, take off again, do a 360, and land, all on the momentum of the rotors. How do you know these things Har -

Re: A Small GESO - Firefighting Helicopters

2009-12-17 Thread John Sessoms
From: frank theriault On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 2:24 AM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote: G'day all We have a serious bushfire burning a few km to the east of us. ?It's downwind of us so that's good - but not good for those in that direction. As I write another Erikson Air Crane

Re: A Small GESO - Firefighting Helicopters

2009-12-17 Thread John Sessoms
From: Mark Roberts Brian Walters wrote: On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 07:30 +, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: On 17/12/09, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/album-firefighting/index.html Nice shots. A twin-bladed HU1 as well. One of the few

Re: A Small GESO - Firefighting Helicopters

2009-12-17 Thread Cotty
On 17/12/09, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: Well, he doesn't know the proper name of the helicopter: It's UH-1 not HU1 I sdant rocceted. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _

Re: A Small GESO - Firefighting Helicopters

2009-12-17 Thread Cotty
On 17/12/09, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: Helicopter pilots like to play. If you're around them when the brass aren't watching too closely, they'll show you. In Chickenhawk the author recounts how they used to clear young trees in the chosen landing area *as they landed* with the

Re: A Small GESO - Firefighting Helicopters

2009-12-17 Thread Cotty
On 17/12/09, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: Prior to 1961 it was HU (Helicopter, Utility) before the category was re-designated UH (Utility Helicopter). I think the Brits and some other NATO allies still use HU as the class designator. ANZAC military might still use HU as well. @

Re: A Small GESO - Firefighting Helicopters

2009-12-17 Thread John Sessoms
From: Cotty On 17/12/09, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: Helicopter pilots like to play. If you're around them when the brass aren't watching too closely, they'll show you. In Chickenhawk the author recounts how they used to clear young trees in the chosen landing area *as they

Re: A Small GESO - Firefighting Helicopters

2009-12-17 Thread Brian Walters
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 08:23 -0500, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Very cool set! You guys should buy come Canadair water bombers. They work way better than helicopters: http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/revolution-in-flight-363.jpg Thanks Frank. Water bombers don't

Re: A Small GESO - Firefighting Helicopters

2009-12-17 Thread ann sanfedele
Hope it continues _away_ from you fascinating machines and nice photo series... what odd looking copters.. hope I never get to see one up close ann Brian Walters wrote: G'day all We have a serious bushfire burning a few km to the east of us. It's downwind of us so that's good - but not

Re: A Small GESO - Firefighting Helicopters

2009-12-17 Thread Brian Walters
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 10:22 -0600, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: Sorry to hear about the fires. Stay safe. Excellent set though, Brian! Just out of interest, what lens were you using? Cheers, Christine Thanks, Christine. It's been raining this morning and the temperature is

RE: A Small GESO - Firefighting Helicopters

2009-12-17 Thread Brian Walters
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 13:06 -0500, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: A minor nit ... rotor-craft prop driven aircraft need a slower shutter speed so you don't completely stop the motion of the rotor/propeller. Gives a more pleasing rendition. Most of them need just slightly more

Re: A Small GESO - Firefighting Helicopters

2009-12-17 Thread Paul Sorenson
Nice series...this one makes the Skycrane look like a huge, alien insect. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/album-firefighting/slides/_IGP5904j.html -p Brian Walters wrote: On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 10:22 -0600, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: Sorry to hear about the fires. Stay

RE: A Small GESO - Firefighting Helicopters

2009-12-17 Thread John Coyle
Great pictures Brian - but are you still safe after the fires spread yesterday? John in Brisbane -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Brian Walters Sent: Thursday, 17 December 2009 5:24 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: A

RE: A Small GESO - Firefighting Helicopters

2009-12-17 Thread Brian Walters
On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 09:41 +1000, John Coyle jco...@powerup.com.au wrote: Great pictures Brian - but are you still safe after the fires spread yesterday? Thanks John. We were never really at risk here as the winds almost always blow from the west. But it's still a bit concerning when the

Re: A Small GESO - Firefighting Helicopters

2009-12-17 Thread John Sessoms
From: ann sanfedele Hope it continues _away_ from you fascinating machines and nice photo series... what odd looking copters.. hope I never get to see one up close ann They're a fun ride if you ever get the chance. Just don't forget your hearing protection. Nap of the Earth (NOE)

Re: A Small GESO - Firefighting Helicopters

2009-12-17 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 06:58:49PM -0500, John Sessoms wrote: The second helicopter is a heavy lift cargo desgn. It was meant to lift a standard shipping container. Straddles it, hooks on lifts. The water container/dispenser with the snorkel is a package system suspended beneath the

Re: A Small GESO - Firefighting Helicopters

2009-12-17 Thread David Mann
On Dec 18, 2009, at 8:01 AM, John Sessoms wrote: The most recognizable helicopter in the world. The distinctive whap, whap, whap sound of the rotor slap is unmistakable. Our air force has a bunch of them, they're a great workhorse. You can hear the things long before you see them. I could

Re: A Small GESO - Firefighting Helicopters

2009-12-17 Thread David Mann
On Dec 18, 2009, at 6:27 PM, John Francis wrote: Another good place for crazy chopper guys is working for the power company. Holding a bird steady, close enough that a guy sitting on the skids can reach out and work on the power lines, with the rotors spinning with maybe ten feet total

Re: A Small GESO - Firefighting Helicopters

2009-12-17 Thread David Mann
On Dec 18, 2009, at 7:06 AM, John Sessoms wrote: That said, it's a good set. I love the old CH-54. It's good to see they're still of use to someone. I'd use one, it'd save lots of time on the commute. Just need to find someone to write the cheques. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: A Small GESO - Firefighting Helicopters

2009-12-16 Thread Cotty
On 17/12/09, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/album-firefighting/index.html Nice shots. A twin-bladed HU1 as well. One of the few helicopters that can land, switch off, take off again, do a 360, and land, all on the momentum of the rotors. I love the

Re: A Small GESO - Firefighting Helicopters

2009-12-16 Thread Larry Colen
On Dec 16, 2009, at 11:24 PM, Brian Walters wrote: Of course I took a few photos. :-) http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/album-firefighting/index.html Very cool set. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net