But doesn't the N80 have DOF preview? You should be able to stop the lens
down, and take a reading, no? This would be tougher on the ZX-30/50, as
there is no DOF preview.
Todd
At 04:04 PM 2/15/01 -0800, you wrote:
>I have not checked it myself. But if it's like Pentax's design, they could
>d
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> In a message dated 2/15/01 7:16:48 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> << Could that be the FA*250-600/5.6? Yummy... >>
>
> Oh no, I've shot ~that~ one. I get to shoot it every Spring during Polo
> matches [Chukkas]. One of the first of the 250
In a message dated 2/15/01 7:16:48 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< Could that be the FA*250-600/5.6? Yummy... >>
Oh no, I've shot ~that~ one. I get to shoot it every Spring during Polo
matches [Chukkas]. One of the first of the 250-600 models, this one is still
an impre
Hi
Price tag is not that importent.
I think I spent 10,000-20,000$ photographing during the last eight-nine
years (when I got the Z1). Hundreds of rolls, thousands of prints and
slides. 100$ more or less is of no importens what so ever, as long as we
enjoy working with the camera. The camera body
ry 15, 2001 11:20 AM
Subject: Re: Fasten seatbelts: MZ-S price!!
> Just a few minutes after I send this mail my
> "Nikon" friend called me again and said he is
> not 100% sure about this Ask Nikon
>
> Alex
>
> "Alexandre A. P. Suaide" wrote:
> >
On Wed, 14 Feb 2001 19:17:21 -0800 (PST), herbet brasileiro wrote:
>To those that have been following Pentax for longer:
>Does Pentax always hides information (especially
>price) on new cameras for so long or at this time it's
>because they are affraid of making a mistake.
>Therefore they're kind
Just a few minutes after I send this mail my
"Nikon" friend called me again and said he is
not 100% sure about this Ask Nikon
Alex
"Alexandre A. P. Suaide" wrote:
>
> I asked a friend who has N80 and he said me that
> only the 3D matrix is lost on manual focus lenses.
> We still have sp
I asked a friend who has N80 and he said me that
only the 3D matrix is lost on manual focus lenses.
We still have spot and center weighted
Alex
Len Paris wrote:
>
> > > > Boz, unless I've gone completely nuts here, the
> > F80 can use all
> > > > of the Nikon manual focus lenses that are
> > de
In a message dated 2/14/01 9:57:18 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< << That's a heap of manual focus lenses. >>
>
>But not nearly as many as there are K-mount manuals.
>Mafud
I am not sure about that. But I can see you are a die-hard Pentax fan. >>
I am. Owning a PEN
In a message dated 2/14/01 9:54:41 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< ><< I am sure many Nikon fans would say just the same. >>
>
>But they'd be lying!
Give me a break... >>
Alan, I'm joking most times, but you've lately seemed to have taken up a
self-appointed station
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ed Mathews
> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 6:01 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Fasten seatbelts: MZ-S price!!
>
>
> I just read Pop Photo's anual li
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>
>
> > > > Boz, unless I've gone completely nuts here, the
> > F80 can use all
> > > > of the Nikon manual focus lenses that are
> > designated as AI or
> > > Boz, unless I've gone completely nuts here, the
> F80 can use all
> > > of the Nikon manual focus lenses that are
> designated as AI or
> > > AI-S,
> >
> >Ah, but you lose metering with them. The old F70
> used to meter with MF
> >lenses, and the F90x still does, but the F80 does not.
>
>
Recently Len Paris wrote: (talking of the Nikon F80/N80)
>
> Really? Do you lose all metering with manual focus lenses? Or
> maybe just certain metering modes? This is a revelation to me.
You lose all metering.
> If the light still passes through the lens, and gets into the
> body, then what
>Ah, but you lose metering with them. The old F70
> used to meter with MF
> >lenses, and the F90x still does, but the F80 does not.
>
> That's why it should be called F69 (or whatever
> number between 69 and 66) in
> the first place.
>
> regards,
> Alan Chan
Really? Do you lose all metering w
Alan wrote:
> I am sure many Pentax fans would rush to buy one, or two, or even three...
> So to the Ferrari fans... But then how many people on earth can afford those
> Ferrari anyway? For those who can't, they would just settle on something
> more affordabe. I am not saying the MZ-S wouldn't be
To those that have been following Pentax for longer:
Does Pentax always hides information (especially
price) on new cameras for so long or at this time it's
because they are affraid of making a mistake.
Therefore they're kinda waiting for the public's
reaction before setting the price.
Herbet.
_
> > Boz, unless I've gone completely nuts here, the F80 can use all
> > of the Nikon manual focus lenses that are designated as AI or
> > AI-S,
>
>Ah, but you lose metering with them. The old F70 used to meter with MF
>lenses, and the F90x still does, but the F80 does not.
That's why it should b
><< I feel quite the same too. To the general public, the reasoning is
>really
> simple - why buy a Pentax when you can buy a Nikon for the same amount of
> money? >>
>
>So you can use all that delicious SMC glass, that's why!
But then Nikon fans would say Nikkors are so much better than SMC t
>But then some of us thought the MX was the best camera ever
>made. Quite a tough act to follow. Anyone out there think a
>Z-1p is the best camera ever made?
>--Tom
I think what made the MX so special was the fact that it was done by nobody
else (compact mechanical). When the Z-1 and Z-1p were
><< In the end, what matter most is the actual selling price. >>
>
>Nah Alan, what matters most to *you* (Alan), is the actual selling price.
>To some, only availability will stop them from owning an MZ-S. Thre are
>people all over the world who have waited, patiently, for this new
>offering.
>S
><< That's a heap of manual focus lenses. >>
>
>But not nearly as many as there are K-mount manuals.
>Mafud
I am not sure about that. But I can see you are a die-hard Pentax fan.
regards,
Alan Chan
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><< I am sure many Nikon fans would say just the same. >>
>
>But they'd be lying!
Give me a break...
regards,
Alan Chan
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> In a message dated 2/14/01 9:53:17 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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> << On Wed, 14 Feb 2001, Alan Chan wrote:
>
> > I think that just because we are Pentax fans, we do not necessarily to
> > accept everything that Pentax offers. We are talk
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 8:21 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Fasten seatbelts: MZ-S price!!
>
>
> In a message dated 2/14/01 6:32:14 AM Eastern Standard T
In a message dated 2/14/01 9:53:17 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< On Wed, 14 Feb 2001, Alan Chan wrote:
> I think that just because we are Pentax fans, we do not necessarily to
> accept everything that Pentax offers. We are talking Pentax products here,
> not worsh
But then some of us thought the MX was the best camera ever
made. Quite a tough act to follow. Anyone out there think a
Z-1p is the best camera ever made?
--Tom
Pål Jensen wrote:
>
> Dan wrote:
>
> > To bad the PDML group wasn't around (& the net, naturally) back when the LX
> > was first ant
On Wed, 14 Feb 2001, Len Paris wrote:
> Boz, unless I've gone completely nuts here, the F80 can use all
> of the Nikon manual focus lenses that are designated as AI or
> AI-S,
Ah, but you lose metering with them. The old F70 used to meter with MF
lenses, and the F90x still does, but the F80 doe
On Wed, 14 Feb 2001, Alan Chan wrote:
> I think that just because we are Pentax fans, we do not necessarily to
> accept everything that Pentax offers. We are talking Pentax products here,
> not worshiping a religion.
Heresy!
:)
chris
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<< That's a heap of manual focus lenses. >>
But not nearly as many as there are K-mount manuals.
Mafud
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<< I am sure many Nikon fans would say just the same. >>
But they'd be lying!
Mafud
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In a message dated 2/14/01 3:32:26 AM Eastern Standard Time,
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<< I feel quite the same too. To the general public, the reasoning is really
simple - why buy a Pentax when you can buy a Nikon for the same amount of
money? >>
So you can use all that delicious SMC glass
"Alan Chan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>The jury's still out on the MZ-S. I haven't see,
>>held, or used one. I don't know the price. I _hope_
>>it's a F/N80-Elan 7 fighter. New technology at a
>>price I can afford.
>
>In the end, what matter most is the actual selling price.
I quite agree.
Recently Alan Chan wrote:
>
> Boz wrote:
>
> >I can agree with this reasoning, but I have not switched to Nikon or Canon.
> >The reasons are that in the price class that I am looking at (up to $500),
> >the bodies from Pentax are smaller, lighter, more ergonomic and better
> >built. And of cours
Dan wrote:
> To bad the PDML group wasn't around (& the net, naturally) back when the LX
> was first anticipated and then released. How many posts would there be
> criticising Pentax and the iconic LX for not including features XY & Z?
I remeber the reactions: ridiculously expensive; too much
> At this moment the Nikon F80 is selling for about
> 1000 DM ($480) in the
> stores, and I find the technology very tempting. But
> then I think about
> having to use only AF lenses, and I put the camera
> back on the shelf.
Boz, unless I've gone completely nuts here, the F80 can use all
of t
As I said the MZ-S will cost 14000Nkr in Norway. In comparison the F100/Dynaxx9/EOS3
cost 16000Nkr in Norway. So its seems that the initial rumors that the MZ-S will cost
slightly less than the F100 is true.
Pål
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>I can agree with this reasoning, but I have not switched to Nikon or Canon.
>The reasons are that in the price class that I am looking at (up to $500),
>the bodies from Pentax are smaller, lighter, more ergonomic and better
>built. And of course, the biggie, with Pentax I do not have to upgrade
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From: Alexandre A. P. Suaide [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 12:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Fasten seatbelts: MZ-S price!!
Hello,
In my opinion, the point is
]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 5:19 PM
Subject: Re: Fasten seatbelts: MZ-S price!!
>aimcompute <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>I know - that's why I have 4 Pentax SLR bodies including a PZ-1p.
>
>ONLY 4 PENTAX BODIES???
>
SMC glass.
Bruce Dayton
Sacramento, CA
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 12:29 PM
Subject: Re: Fasten seatbelts: MZ-S price!!
> In a message dated 2/13/01 2:15:08 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> [EMAIL
aimcompute <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I know - that's why I have 4 Pentax SLR bodies including a PZ-1p.
ONLY 4 PENTAX BODIES???
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Gianfranco
Get free email and a permanent address at http:
John wrote:
> Isn't Pentax missing one of the hottest parts of the
> SLR market?
Nope. 80-90% of the volume is in the MZ-5 and below class. The MZ-series is pure money
making for Pentax. In the $1000 an upwards class the posibility for profit is. So
basically Pentax seems to be were the mo
Wieland Willker suggests:
> > Here in Norway the MZ-S will cost appoximately $1700.
>
> This is about the same price as a 645 N body. Folks, the chance! Switch
> over to 645! But probably Pentax intended just this? ;-)
What?!?!?! And give up 36 exposures per roll? 1 hour mini-lab development?
> I think this way. I like very much the Grand Cherokee
> from Chrysler (jeep). I would like to change mine for a new one,
> but, if Chrysler closes their doors I can't buy another
> We must be disappointed with pentax They are not
> building cameras that can compete with nikon and cano
In a message dated 2/13/01 3:59:29 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< Let's face it, the other camera mfr's obviously produce and market
competitive product. >>
So does PENTAX, just not in SLRs. But then, when Canon or Nikon or Minolta
begin to produce medium format, the
Alexandre wrote:
> In my opinion, the point is If a new consumer goes to B&H, for example,
> to look for a camera (he wants to upgrade from P&S to SLR) and the retailer
> shows a MZ-S, a F100, N80S and EOS1V, probably the consumer will buy everything
> else but the MZ-S. This will happen for
In a message dated 2/13/01 2:15:08 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< If you're *that* dissatisfied with Pentax, don't let the door hit you in
the ass on the way out to your local Nikon or Canon, or whatever, dealer. >>
I don't hear dissatisfaction, I hear PDML members who
I believe you!
Tom C.
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>
>Wanna get respect hey? You won't get that from a mere 35mm robocamera.
>Instead, put up a big BOGEN tripod for your PENTAX 67ll, then hang a big,
>brawny looking LEE compendium hood on that sucker. Stand back and watch
>people approach the setu
Amen, Doug. It strikes me as rather bizarre that so many would whine about this camera
on the basis of published specs. It obviously has some strong pluses, and if build
quality and feel are anything close to that LX benchmark that Pentax cites, this may
well be my first autofocus camera.
By
Hate to break this to you, but Chrysler announced a couple of months ago it was
stopping Cherokee production.
The "I" part of "we" does not feel compelled to be disappointed with Pentax at all.
What I feel compelled to do is hold the MZ-S in my hands, use it to make some photos,
and then decid
I think this way. I like very much the Grand Cherokee
from Chrysler (jeep). I would like to change mine for a new one,
but, if Chrysler closes their doors I can't buy another
We must be disappointed with pentax They are not
building cameras that can compete with nikon and canon.
We must
In a message dated 2/13/01 1:43:20 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< If I ever get really serious about attempting to market anything, I would
probably "play the game" and get a Nikon body for 35mm work. Simply for
apperance-sake. It gets respect. >>
Wanna get respect
> Preparing to be bitterly disappointed with Pentax,
> John
>
>
> =
> John Edwin Mason
> Charlottesville, Virginia
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Alt Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I can't believe it! This is the PDML, after all! We are a group of Pentax
users that are quite fond of our Pentax
In a message dated 2/13/01 1:11:11 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< I will not
be surprised if Nikon and Canon gives top camera to famous PJ's for free
only for marketing... This works very well. >>
Nope. They *do* heavily discount their "pro" bodies to some
publication
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> Subject: Re: Fasten seatbelts: MZ-S price!!
>
>
> Hello,
>
> In my opinion, the point is If a new consumer goes to
> B&H, for example,
> to look for a camera (he wants to upgrade from P&S to SLR)
> and the retailer
> shows a MZ-
Mafud wrote:
> << Expect US mailorder price to be around $900 - 1000 >>
>
> Oh-oh. That's EOS 1n (sans booster) terriitory.
Do make some rooms for errors here; this is a guesstimate based on the Norwegian price
approximately converted into US conditions based on my experience in Norwegian vs
I wrote:
> Here in Norway the MZ-S will cost appoximately $1700. Ho-ho. They hope for mid
>March. I'll get one.
> It has LX built quality and sealing. This is a pro camera.
Of course it should be mid March delivery.
This price turns into about £1000 (the same as earlier estimates) and in the
So approximately what would you expect that to equate to in U.S. dollars?
And are you talking list price or sell price?
Thanks,
Ed
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From: "Pål Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 7:02 AM
Subject: Fasten seatbelts: MZ-S p
Is that USD or Krone??
Evan
Pål Jensen wrote:
>
> Here in Norway the MZ-S will cost appoximately $1700. Ho-ho. They hope for mid
>March. I'll get one.
> It has LX built quality and sealing. This is a pro camera.
>
> Pål
>
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$1700us ? Ouch!
>From: Pål Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Fasten seatbelts: MZ-S price!!
>Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 13:02:50 +0100
>
>Here in Norway the MZ-S will cost appoximately $1700. Ho-ho. They hope for
>mid March. I'll get one.
>I
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