RE: LCD monitors?

2005-03-07 Thread Jon Paul Schelter \(R* Toronto\)
One thing to watch out for is that there do exist (new) LCD monitors that don't actually display 24 bits per colour, but rather 16.. obviously, that would be *bad* for editing photos. I think that a number of these are fast displays (~16ms refresh) better suited to gaming and movie watching than t

Re: LCD monitors?

2005-03-07 Thread Kenneth Waller
Marnie, I took one of Geo's first weeklong classroom digital workshops back in early 02, and was impressed with the completeness and professional level of the class. He has since expanded and now offers a variety of digital classroom workshops. I especially appreciated the hands on aspect that

Re: LCD monitors?

2005-03-07 Thread John Francis
Ah. I've been looking at that Sony. Mishka mused: > > apple 23" is the same as sony 23". and both are platform (mac/pc) agnostic. > > best, > mishka > > > Okay, but that's Apple/Mac. Hehehehe. > > > > Marnie aka Doe > > > > >

Re: LCD monitors?

2005-03-07 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
--- David Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The Cinema Display 20" (and various other Apple monitors) are > > easily usable with a PC as well, Marnie. > > Only the new ones - the previous models used ADC connectors. > Just in case everyone was rushing off to eBay :) Older models required an i

Re: LCD monitors?

2005-03-07 Thread Mishka
apple 23" is the same as sony 23". and both are platform (mac/pc) agnostic. best, mishka > Okay, but that's Apple/Mac. Hehehehe. > > Marnie aka Doe > >

Re: LCD monitors?

2005-03-07 Thread Herb Chong
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Re: LCD monitors?

2005-03-07 Thread Paul Stenquist
You can use the Apple Cinema Display on any PC with the correct video card. On Mar 6, 2005, at 11:45 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 3/6/2005 7:39:21 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The guys on the ColorSync team and in the hardware development lab at Apple al

Re: LCD monitors?

2005-03-07 Thread Frantisek
GD> Frankly, I'll take their word for it over any ruminations here. GD> ;-) Funny. You believe word from Apple that the displays they have made for them are the best? That's not very objective... I agree that the latest high-end LCDs are great, though who has the money for them. Midrange LCDs, not

Re: LCD monitors?

2005-03-06 Thread David Mann
On Mar 7, 2005, at 6:03 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: The Cinema Display 20" (and various other Apple monitors) are easily usable with a PC as well, Marnie. Only the new ones - the previous models used ADC connectors. Just in case everyone was rushing off to eBay :) I have my eye on the 23" HD mod

Re: LCD monitors?

2005-03-06 Thread Cotty
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Re: LCD monitors?

2005-03-06 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/6/2005 9:05:02 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Cinema Display 20" (and various other Apple monitors) are easily usable with a PC as well, Marnie. The panels they use are also in several of the better LCDs sold under other names too (LG, Siemens, and Sha

Re: LCD monitors?

2005-03-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
The Cinema Display 20" (and various other Apple monitors) are easily usable with a PC as well, Marnie. The panels they use are also in several of the better LCDs sold under other names too (LG, Siemens, and Sharp make them). Godfrey --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In a message dated 3/6/2005 7:39

Re: LCD monitors?

2005-03-06 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/6/2005 7:39:21 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The guys on the ColorSync team and in the hardware development lab at Apple all agree that the latest flat panel display have more gamut and more adjustability than all but the very best CRTs. The Apple Cinema

RE: LCD monitors?

2005-03-06 Thread Amita Guha
gt; Subject: Re: LCD monitors? > > > it's not a coincidence that you and i ended up with the same monitor. > > Herb > - Original Message - > From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 8:26 AM > Subject: R

Re: LCD monitors?

2005-03-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Well, at the George Lepp workshop I went to today, he said > LCDs have finally evolved to the point that they are quite > good for photography. ... > > But I am not convinced. (It's still a matter of calibration > vs. profiles if nothing else.) The guys on the Color

Re: LCD monitors?

2005-03-06 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/6/2005 7:51:56 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No longer the case, Jens. Godfrey --- Jens Bladt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > LCD monitors are too contrasty. Photopro's don't use them. > Niether do I. > == Well, at the George Lepp workshop I went to

Re: LCD monitors?

2005-03-06 Thread Herb Chong
it's not a coincidence that you and i ended up with the same monitor. Herb - Original Message - From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 8:26 AM Subject: Re: LCD monitors? I recently had to replace my monitor and had the op

Re: LCD monitors?

2005-03-06 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" Subject: Re: LCD monitors? The La Cie 22-inch CRT has a dot pitch of .24, ditto the Mitsubishi Diamond Pro and the $5000 Mitsubishi Diamondtron. The LCD Apple Cinema Display is .258. Not a significant difference. Reread the part

RE: LCD monitors?

2005-03-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
No longer the case, Jens. Godfrey --- Jens Bladt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > LCD monitors are too contrasty. Photopro's don't use them. > Niether do I. > __ Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the

Re: LCD monitors?

2005-03-06 Thread Paul Stenquist
t; Subject: Re: LCD monitors? I asked a similar question about 3 moths ago (my 17'' CRT burned). The responses that I got weren't encouraging regarding LCD's and photo editing, so I finally ended up buyimg a Samsung 17'' CRT for 1/3 the cost of a 17'' LCD and

Re: LCD monitors?

2005-03-06 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Jaume Lahuerta" Subject: Re: LCD monitors? I asked a similar question about 3 moths ago (my 17'' CRT burned). The responses that I got weren't encouraging regarding LCD's and photo editing, so I finally ended up buyimg a Samsung

Re: LCD monitors?

2005-03-06 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/6/2005 4:11:23 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Regardless of the profiling the gamma varies from the top to the bottom of the screen on any current LCD/TFT, my 19" (Mitsubishi) and 15" (Dell) TFT are both fine in the middle but dodgy at the top and bott

Re: LCD monitors?

2005-03-06 Thread Paul Stenquist
I agree that the best CRT monitors can still deliver better image quality than the best TFT monitors, but it comes at a price. I was merely responding to a message claiming that all photography professionals use CRT monitors. It just isn't the case. I think one factor that has driven many photo

Re: LCD monitors?

2005-03-06 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
I asked a similar question about 3 moths ago (my 17'' CRT burned). The responses that I got weren't encouraging regarding LCD's and photo editing, so I finally ended up buyimg a Samsung 17'' CRT for 1/3 the cost of a 17'' LCD and I am quite happy. However, I hope that technology evolves so that my

Re: LCD monitors?

2005-03-06 Thread Rob Studdert
On 6 Mar 2005 at 7:08, Paul Stenquist wrote: > Hmmm. You haven't been in too many studios lately, have you? At Acme > Photo, where they do a lot of Detroit's car photography, they have a > whole bank of 30-inch Apple Cinema Displays that are used for RAW > conversions and retouching. And a numb

Re: LCD monitors?

2005-03-06 Thread Rob Studdert
On 6 Mar 2005 at 9:50, Bob W wrote: > Bear in mind that you can't actually calibrate an LCD. That is, you > can't really change the screen settings to match a standard. Instead > you have to profile it, which means you record the settings it has and > your software maps your photos onto the scree

Re: LCD monitors?

2005-03-06 Thread Paul Stenquist
Hmmm. You haven't been in too many studios lately, have you? At Acme Photo, where they do a lot of Detroit's car photography, they have a whole bank of 30-inch Apple Cinema Displays that are used for RAW conversions and retouching. And a number of other pros I've talked to have been singing the

Re: LCD monitors?

2005-03-06 Thread Bob W
Hi, Sunday, March 6, 2005, 12:42:35 AM, Amita wrote: > It's time for me to buy a new monitor, and I'd like to get an LCD. Obviously > I am concerned about viewing and editing photos on an LCD monitor. Do any > of you have an LCD monitor that you can recommend for photography? Most > hardware rev

RE: LCD monitors?

2005-03-05 Thread Isaac
7:46 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: LCD monitors? Dealing with Dell can be problematic. The are great at taking orders and delivering product, God help you if you have a problem that's not in their handbook. Not for less but B&H Photo has the *ist-Ds for the same price.

Re: LCD monitors?

2005-03-05 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Jens Bladt" Subject: RE: LCD monitors? LCD monitors are too contrasty. Photopro's don't use them. Niether do I. Thats what I decided about my LCD as well (too contrasty, that the pros that I know eschew them is secondary). William Robb.

RE: LCD monitors?

2005-03-05 Thread Jens Bladt
LCD monitors are too contrasty. Photopro's don't use them. Niether do I. Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Amita Guha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 6. marts 2005 01:43 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: LCD monitors? It's t

Re: LCD monitors?

2005-03-05 Thread Mishka
I did consider their 30" beast. for a very short time though. But if anyone cares, it does work on PC and Matrox top of the line card (~$650) can drive it just fine. best, mishka On Sun, 06 Mar 2005 01:46:01 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Apple Cinema Displays are supe

Re: LCD monitors?

2005-03-05 Thread Peter J. Alling
would I get it even cheaper from someone like B&H? -Original Message- From: Mishka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 6:41 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: LCD monitors? I have just (two days ago) got a pair of 20" Dell FP2001 instead of my old 19&

Re: LCD monitors?

2005-03-05 Thread Jon M
I have a Sony SDM-S73 (around $290 from newegg, last i checked) and I'm quite happy with it overall... haven't really done any real comparisons to see how it is, but I don't miss my old CRT a bit. --- Amita Guha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's time for me to buy a new monitor, and I'd like > t

RE: LCD monitors?

2005-03-05 Thread Isaac
From: Mishka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 6:41 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: LCD monitors? I have just (two days ago) got a pair of 20" Dell FP2001 instead of my old 19" Viewsonic CRT. The new flat panels are *very* nice. I haven&#x

Re: LCD monitors?

2005-03-05 Thread pnstenquist
The Apple Cinema Displays are superb for editing photos. The very best CRTs are probably a bit better, but the top LCDs are very good as well. Paul > > - Original Message - > From: "Amita Guha" > Subject: LCD monitors? > > > > It's time for me to buy a new monitor, and I'd like to g

Re: LCD monitors?

2005-03-05 Thread Mishka
I have just (two days ago) got a pair of 20" Dell FP2001 instead of my old 19" Viewsonic CRT. The new flat panels are *very* nice. I haven't done any scientific comparisons, but I couldn't be happier with quality. The color fidelity is just fine, and contrast is quite good. The best part was that

Re: LCD monitors?

2005-03-05 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Amita Guha" Subject: LCD monitors? It's time for me to buy a new monitor, and I'd like to get an LCD. Obviously I am concerned about viewing and editing photos on an LCD monitor. Do any of you have an LCD monitor that you can recommend for photography? Mos