> >these wonderful, expensive cameras are being used as props! frank capa,
> >cartier breson and other greates should come out of their graves and beat
Hey, Cartier Bresson is still alive!
He actually wanted to beat another guy with his Pentax not long ago.
j
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> But one thing is clear: some people buy certain brands only to impress
> the other persons around them, or because they feel that way they show
> their economic or social status.
competitive or not, there is a great deal of pleasure to be had out of
using products with certain brand names
Alex, I think your brother is right, but the ones who wrote the messages
which outraged hm so much were only joking, at least that is what I
understood.
But one thing is clear: some people buy certain brands only to impress
the other persons around them, or because they feel that way they show
the
care less
about what people think of his camera choice, since its just a tool. I
tend to agree with him.
Cheers
Alexn
/home.att.net/~alnem/
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>i am sorry. the people who wrote this
>*L* I like that story. A friend of mine worked for a large Toronto
>retailer which shall remain anonymous, except to say that it starts with
>"V" and rhymes with "Bistek." He said that they didn't have the Z1-p in
>stock when he got there, and that he had to fight to get them to order
>one. Th
"Juan J. Buhler" wrote:
>
> I try to do my part every chance I get. A few months ago a friend of
> mine wanted a manual camera. She had an SFx, but thought it was too
> bulky, and wanted something more traditional. She was going to get
> some kind of Nikon! Luckily, I was there, and was able t
Chris Brogden wrote:
>
> *L* I like that story. A friend of mine worked for a large Toronto
> retailer which shall remain anonymous, except to say that it starts with
> "V" and rhymes with "Bistek." He said that they didn't have the Z1-p in
> stock when he got there, and that he had to fight
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 11:32 PM
Subject: Re: Pentax System, Is It Worth It? (Was RE: MZ-S Is It Worth It ! )
> In a message dated 2/26/01 9:55:52 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> << I was visiting a local camera sh
In a message dated 2/26/01 9:55:52 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< I was visiting a local camera shop, and was talking with one of the
salepeople. He is a N afficionado, and since the store only handles the
ZX series, had no idea that the PZ-1p even existed. >>
Wh
On Mon, 26 Feb 2001, John Mullan wrote:
> I was visiting a local camera shop, and was talking with one of the
> salepeople. He is a N afficionado, and since the store only handles
> the ZX series, had no idea that the PZ-1p even existed. I brought my
> camera in, and put it into his hands.
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From: "Chris Brogden"
Subject: Re: MZ-S Is It Worth It !
> On Mon, 26 Feb 2001, William Robb wrote:
>
> > > Bill you owe me a beer, mine is all over the computer
desk.
> >
> > I intend to make good on that at some point.
>
On Mon, 26 Feb 2001, John Mullan wrote:
> I was visiting a local camera shop, and was talking with one of the
> salepeople. He is a N afficionado, and since the store only
> handles the ZX series, had no idea that the PZ-1p even existed. I
> brought my camera in, and put it into his hands.
On Mon, 26 Feb 2001, William Robb wrote:
> > Bill you owe me a beer, mine is all over the computer desk.
>
> I intend to make good on that at some point.
> Bill
Lucky it didn't land all over his computer. :)
chris
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> > But C and N ~owners~ are
> > insufferable with their snotty-snobby
> > ways toward other SLR owners.
> > Not even ~Leica~ owners are that nasty.
>
>I always carry a Leica when shooting with the Pentax just in
>case I run into a Nikon or Canon owner. It straightens out
>their perspecti
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From: Mafud
Subject: Re: Pentax System, Is It Worth It? (Was RE: MZ-S Is It
Worth It ! )
> Both will earn you that singular question, always tinged with
amazement: "
> ~PENTAX~ makes THAT?!"
Amazement and, unfortunately, disbelief.
The Pentax 6x
In a message dated 2/26/01 1:16:51 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<<
Engenders respect is putting it mildly. It usually intimidates the hell out
of them. :-) >>
But then, so does a PZ-1p behind an f/2.8 FA* 28-70 Zoom wearing that big,
honking, PENTAX silver lens hood
In a message dated 2/26/01 9:42:09 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< I always carry a Leica when shooting with the Pentax just in case I run
into a Nikon or Canon owner. It straightens out their perspective real quick.
>>
The old one-two, heh?!
Mafud
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In a message dated 2/26/01 6:49:43 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<<
As for the MZ-s I dont think I'll ever be able to afford one so it's not for
me, but I can dream.
Peter >>
At $33 a month, ~anyone~ can afford it.
Mafud
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> I just bring my surly attitude and a pro-pack of whup-ass.
>
> The FA 85/1.4 engenders respect too.
>
> tv
> -
Engenders respect is putting it mildly. It usually intimidates the hell out
of them. :-)
Len
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From: "Shel Belinkoff"
Subject: Re: Pentax System, Is It Worth It? (Was RE: MZ-S Is It
Worth It !)
> Mafud wrote:
>
> > But C and N ~owners~ are
> > insufferable with their snotty-snobby
> > ways toward other SLR owners.
&g
Roland Mabo wrote:
>For example, the FA 50 f/1.4 is a steal, Zeiss performance at the lowest price of all
>50 f/1.4.
Absolutely! And probably one of the most overlooked lenses in
the Pentax lineup, largely due to the fabulous Limited lenses.
When I started to look into getting the FA 50/1.4 som
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> But C and N ~owners~ are
> insufferable with their snotty-snobby
> ways toward other SLR owners.
> Not even ~Leica~ owners are that nasty.
I always carry a Leica when shooting with the Pentax just in
case I run into a Nikon or Canon owner. It straightens ou
Mike Johnston wrote:
> A number of years ago I wrote
> in an English photography magazine:
> "The best light meter is one that
> includes in its circuit the photographer's
> brain."
Absolutely! In fact, not only should the light meter be
connected to the brain, but the entire camera as well
On 26 Feb 2001, at 8:23, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> As a former PJ and former Canon EOS A2/VG-10 (2) EOS [IS] lens owner, I can
> truthfully say the ~only~ thing Canon made I could not find in PENTAX was
...an invisible aperture ring, boom boom :-)
Rob Studdert (eBay ID: distudio)
PO Box 70
In a message dated 2/25/01 10:22:15 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< of us are primarily Pentax users. You use what you need to get the job
down and if Canon or Nikon supplies something that one needs to do the job,
>>
As a former PJ and former Canon EOS A2/VG-10 (2) E
Mafud wrote:
>
> No more muttered: "It's a PENTAX" when asked by strangers, no
> more "I've been thinking of switching" vacillations, no more "brand shame"
>
But I always was and am proud of my Pentax gear. And (shame) only once ever
thought of switching in the last twenty something years (dr
Alan wrote:
AC> I think the MZ/ZX series employed the idea of traditional appearance and
AC> operation. However, techanically, they are very different. By that I mean
AC> their internal structures and designs are nothing alike. So, based on this
AC> point, I do not think the MZ/ZX series are th
* Paul wrote:
Without holding the MZ-S, I lean to the Canon EOS3 which according to the specs has
better focussing, higher frames per minute and better lenses.
A friend of mine has the EOS 3, and the shutter sounds like a metal can with some
small screws in it. The body has a very plastic fee
* Mark Erickson wrote...
>Pentax low-end bodies are, I
>think, pretty comparable to C***n, N***n, and M*a bodies in features and
>price.
The MZ-30 won against Canon EOS 3000 and Minolta 404 Si in the latest issue of
Practical Photography. Both Canon and Minolta had slightly more features, b
> Bill wrote:
>
> > A camera with good build quality and a feature set that
> > doesn't need constant reference to the owners manual for
> > operation will go a lot further to satisfy my needs than a
> > zillion focus points and 47 exposure programs. I can still do a
> > few things for myself.
>
>So does Pentax operate more on the GM model than the Toyota/Honda model?
Sounds like it (to me anyway), except the lifecycle is shorter.
>You say that "Pentax do not have this freedom." I think, rather, than
>Pentax
>chooses not to go down the refinement path with their camera bodies. Or do
>
> > Odd how they could select the Minolta as the winner..it does
> > make you wonder about the reviews.
>
>Minolta came off suspiciously well. My personal favourite was the
>comparison between the MZ-M and Minolta's X-370. The MZ-M is a newer
>camera, with more features, for less money,
>Back when I used to shoot EOS along with my Pentax, I longed for the Elan
>(EOS 10). It had a nice set of features, and some that were actually
>useful, for a Canon! :) I'd always seen the bar code reader option but
>never really knew what it did. I wonder who came up with this "useful"
>fe
On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, John Glover wrote:
> Odd how they could select the Minolta as the winner..it does
> make you wonder about the reviews.
Minolta came off suspiciously well. My personal favourite was the
comparison between the MZ-M and Minolta's X-370. The MZ-M is a newer
camera, wit
Geez, Mafud!
Why do I feel like my 'Miata' just got turned into a rusted out 'Gremlin'?
I had no idea I was supposed to be ashamed of/and or have an inferiority
complex over picking Pentax 6 months ago. Is it too late for me to print
out some 'Canikolta' stickers and paste them over the 'Pentax'
>The problem that I see is that the Pentax high-end body planning and
>release
>cycle is not well-run at all! How many of us would have been ecstatic to
>be
>able to buy a camera derived from the PZ-1p, but with updated auto focus, a
>real battery grip, and a vertical shutter release? As anot
On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, Mark Erickson wrote:
> Is it worth it to build a Pentax system? From an objective perspective, you
> can probably get better bodies and more good glass for less $$$ if you go
> with N***n or something.
If it does what you want, it is worth doing it. My MX is all I want
in a
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From: "John Glover
Subject: Re: MZ-S Is It Worth It !
> Odd how they could select the Minolta as the
winner..it does make you wonder about the reviews.
I have long thought that camera reviews will be biased
towards the camera with the most &
5:47 PM
Subject: Re: Pentax System, Is It Worth It? (Was RE: MZ-S Is It Worth It !)
> Can we stop with the practice of not spelling out the names of the
> competitors? Sure we like our Pentaxes from the early Asahi Pentax all the
> way up to the soon to be seen by all MZ-S. The competitor
it does make you wonder
about the reviews.
John
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From: "tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 11:19 AM
Subject: Re: MZ-S Is It Worth It !
> > Look at the new Canon 30 or 33, fantastic review
Mafud wrote:
> The MZ-S fills that purpose
> with a gleeful vengeance for PENTAX owners of all stripes.
Go, Mafud, go...
> No more muttered: "It's a PENTAX" when asked by strangers, no more "I've been
> thinking of switching" vacillations, no more "brand shame";
> "It's a PENTAX MZ-S, you got
In a message dated 2/25/01 9:30:46 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<<
You should've been a politician, Mafud :) >>
Har! I was! Twice elected, twice selected (like GWB)
<>
<>
Actually, it's due to my professor and mentor who lead me down the path to
journalism and la
> Nice pep talk Mafud!
Certainly was!
You should've been a politician, Mafud :) Your emails have a
way of making me alternately want to shake your hand or slug you :)
You have quite a talent, there.
- Peter
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>Can we stop with the practice of not spelling out the names of the
>competitors? Sure we like our Pentaxes from the early Asahi Pentax all the
>way up to the soon to be seen by all MZ-S. The competitors are not C***n,
>N***n, or M*a. Never heard of those cameras. I have heard about
brands
Nice pep talk Mafud!
Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 4:58 PM
Subject: Re: MZ-S Is It Worth It !
> In a message dated 2/25/01 4:11:23 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>
In a message dated 2/25/01 6:50:58 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< Can we stop with the practice of not spelling out the names of the
competitors? Sure we like our Pentaxes from the early Asahi Pentax all the
way up to the soon to be seen by all MZ-S. The competitors a
In a message dated 2/25/01 11:09:23 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< I really hope I can continue with Pentax but I think for $1,000 US, there
are better packages out there. >>
But... but you've already got one foot out the door. If you are already
leaning (don't fall)!
Hi Paul and all
I think the question should be:
Are your pictures worth it? Are your lenses worth
it?(!)
First:
Our slides and prints cost the same either you make them with a
10$ P&S or a 1000$ SLR. The cost of the camera is a smal percentage anyway
(that is if you take more tahn just a fe
I'm writing this from the perspective of someone who owns an LX, a ZX-5, and
a bunch of FA* glass. The high-end Pentax lenses are definitely good. If
you look at B&H New York prices, most Pentax lenses are comparable in price
to C***n, N***n, and M*a lenses (there are a couple of exceptions,
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From:
Paul
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 5:10
PM
Subject: MZ-S Is It Worth It !
Guys,
With all the conversation regarding the
MZ-S, is it worth the money.
REPLY:
It is for me because I own mo
Paul writes:
>With all the conversation regarding the MZ-S,
>is it worth the money.
I would address the question of lens performance first. I could
not consider a camera body worth the money if I do not like the
optical qualities of the lenses it will use.
>When picture quality is paramount it
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