On 2011-04-10 17:09 , Christine Aguila wrote:
Seems to be the theme this week ;-).
http://aguilapaw.posterous.com/
i like this image; at first i read it urban frog and saw a geometric
frog as the subject
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That's nice, Christine! Monochrome tones very pleasing.
Jack
--- On Sun, 4/10/11, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote:
From: Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net
Subject: PAW--Week 14--Urban Fog
To: pdml@pdml.net
Date: Sunday, April 10, 2011, 4:09 PM
Seems to be the theme this
I like it. The hints of blue sky are interesting.
Might work nicely in BW, too.
Rick
http://photo.net/photos/RickW
--- On Sun, 4/10/11, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote:
From: Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net
Subject: PAW--Week 14--Urban Fog
To: pdml@pdml.net
Date:
Thanks, Rick and Jack! It was an odd scene--fog and a tiny patch of blue
sky. Cheers, Christine
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Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2011 7:49 PM
Subject: Re: PAW--Week 14--Urban Fog
I like
Thanks, Eric! Cheers, Christine
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From: Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net
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Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 10:25 PM
Subject: Re: PAW--Week 13-Skateboarding on the Picasso
On Apr 3, 2011, at 2:28 PM, Christine Aguila wrote
Thanks, Frank! Cheers, Christine
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Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 4:16 PM
Subject: Re: PAW--Week 13-Skateboarding on the Picasso
On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Christine
On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote:
These kids were cute.
http://aguilapaw.posterous.com/
4 shot gallery--check out #2
http://www.caguila.com/caguila/k5testskateboard/
They're all such strong photos! While I do like the colours in #1,
the last
On Apr 3, 2011, at 2:28 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:
These kids were cute.
http://aguilapaw.posterous.com/
4 shot gallery--check out #2
http://www.caguila.com/caguila/k5testskateboard/
Yes they are. And I like 2-4 better than 1. Three catches of flying kids.
for the feedback! Cheers, Christine
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Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: PAW--Week 13-Skateboarding on the Picasso
In the first capture focus exposure wise it appears you got
On 3/27/2011 19:51, Christine Aguila wrote:
I'm at week 12, but didn't post weeks 9, 10, 11, 12 to the list. Not
great stuff, but despite being sick, I kept up. I did try for the
Perigee-Super-Moon (week 11). Darrel I went to Montrose Beach area.
The shots are really more landscapey than
Next year I'm getting a flu shot! Thanks, Boris. Cheers, Christine
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Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 8:49 AM
Subject: Re: PAW week 12 catch-up
On 3/27/2011 19:51, Christine Aguila
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From: Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com
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Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 7:23 AM
Subject: Re: PAW--Week 13-Skateboarding on the Picasso
You know, the from line in Gmail was appearing as Christ. ..
Christ. I knew
Good stuff. 1 and 4 are great
Dave
On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote:
These kids were cute.
http://aguilapaw.posterous.com/
4 shot gallery--check out #2
http://www.caguila.com/caguila/k5testskateboard/
Cheers, Christine
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Thanks, Dave. Cheers, Christine
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From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com
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Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 8:58 AM
Subject: Re: PAW--Week 13-Skateboarding on the Picasso
Good stuff. 1 and 4 are great
Dave
On Sun, Apr 3
Thanks, Rick! Cheers, Christine
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From: Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com
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Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 8:18 PM
Subject: Re: PAW--Week 13-Skateboarding on the Picasso
I like the last 3, for the interaction between
Subject: Re: PAW--Week 13-Skateboarding on the Picasso
In the first capture focus exposure wise it appears you got it, but the
two boarders don't work for me. A variation of the action boarder alone
would be more appealing IMO.
The second last capture have a somewhat distracting background for me
Maybe I'll try that with my MX next year. Well, we'll see anyways :-)
Cheers, Christine
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From: Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info
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Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 10:09 PM
Subject: Re: PAW week 12 catch-up
Do you
nice grab -- yeah, number 2 is number 1... um... well. you knw what I
mean :-)
ann
Christine Aguila wrote:
These kids were cute.
http://aguilapaw.posterous.com/
4 shot gallery--check out #2
http://www.caguila.com/caguila/k5testskateboard/
Cheers, Christine
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Nice. Pablo would approve!
Paul
On Apr 3, 2011, at 2:28 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:
These kids were cute.
http://aguilapaw.posterous.com/
4 shot gallery--check out #2
http://www.caguila.com/caguila/k5testskateboard/
Cheers, Christine
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Thanks, Ann Paul. I totally agree Pablo would approve! It was so cool to
watch. Cheers, Christine
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From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net
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Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: PAW--Week 13
In the first capture focus exposure wise it appears you got it, but the
two boarders don't work for me. A variation of the action boarder alone
would be more appealing IMO.
The second last capture have a somewhat distracting background for me.
The third one is better, but I wish he was more
I like the last 3, for the interaction between the skateboarders and the shapes
of the sculpture. Very nice.
Rick
http://photo.net/photos/RickW
--- On Sun, 4/3/11, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote:
From: Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net
Subject: PAW--Week
On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 12:51 -0500, Christine Aguila
cagu...@earthlink.net wrote:
I'm at week 12, but didn't post weeks 9, 10, 11, 12 to the list. Not
great stuff, but despite being sick, I kept up. I did try for the
Perigee-Super-Moon (week 11). Darrel I went to Montrose Beach area.
The
: Re: PAW week 12 catch-up
On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 12:51 -0500, Christine Aguila
cagu...@earthlink.net wrote:
I'm at week 12, but didn't post weeks 9, 10, 11, 12 to the list. Not
great stuff, but despite being sick, I kept up. I did try for the
Perigee-Super-Moon (week 11). Darrel I went
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 2:13 AM
Subject: Re: PAW week 12 catch-up
On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 12:51 -0500, Christine Aguila
cagu...@earthlink.net wrote:
I'm at week 12, but didn't post weeks 9, 10, 11, 12 to the list. Not
great stuff, but despite being sick, I kept up. I did try
. The numbers at the bottom do confuse matters a bit. Cheers,
Christine
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Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 7:33 PM
Subject: Re: PAW week 12 catch-up
Christine,
I like those moon shots.
I
Hi Christine,
Even in my sporadic lurking here, I noticed your absence. Glad to
hear you are on the mend!
I enjoyed getting caught up on your PAW...wish I had gotten some moon
shots myself... I liked those quite a bit. And Pub Reading, too.
The regular shooting posting is a challenge, isn't
Enjoyed 9 through 12 very much
Dave
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 1:51 PM, Christine Aguila
cagu...@earthlink.net wrote:
I'm at week 12, but didn't post weeks 9, 10, 11, 12 to the list. Not
great stuff, but despite being sick, I kept up. I did try for the
Perigee-Super-Moon (week 11). Darrel
What David said. Good work.
Paul
On Mar 28, 2011, at 9:54 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
Enjoyed 9 through 12 very much
Dave
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 1:51 PM, Christine Aguila
cagu...@earthlink.net wrote:
I'm at week 12, but didn't post weeks 9, 10, 11, 12 to the list. Not
great stuff,
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 5:00 PM, DagT li...@thrane.name wrote:
Welcome back, I was starting to wonder. I really like the neglected flag and
Moon 1.
I'm with Dag - those are my faves of a very strong bunch.
Glad to see you're back and feeling better.
cheers,
frank
--
Sharpness is a
Thanks, Steve. I'll double check those highlights. Cheers, Christine
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From: Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 6:56 AM
Subject: Re: PAW week 12 catch-up
Nice. The moon over the beach
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From: Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net
The regular shooting posting is a challenge, isn't it? :) I found
it very worthwhile in the end, though. There are always times when
there's nothing on that sd card, and no ideas... but pushing through
coming up with
Thanks, Frank, Dave, and Paul. Kind of you guys to say so. Cheers,
Christine
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From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: PAW week 12 catch-up
On Sun, Mar 27
Welcome back, I was starting to wonder. I really like the neglected flag and
Moon 1.
DagT
http://www.thrane.name
Den 27. mars 2011 kl. 19.51 skrev Christine Aguila:
I'm at week 12, but didn't post weeks 9, 10, 11, 12 to the list. Not great
stuff, but despite being sick, I kept up. I
me too for the flag...! terrific shot.
moon shots seldom interest me much (shooting or viewing) no matter how
well they might be presented..
Just realised , Christine, that you sent a photo link . duh...
ann
DagT wrote:
Welcome back, I was starting to wonder. I really like the
Christine,
I like those moon shots.
I get really confused as the numbering is backwards,
and next takes me to an older picture.
Regards, Bob S.
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 4:00 PM, DagT li...@thrane.name wrote:
Welcome back, I was starting to wonder. I really like the neglected flag and
Moon 1.
Thanks, DagT Ann! I used the *toy camera digital filter* on the K-7 for
the flag shot. Cheers, Christine
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From: DagT li...@thrane.name
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Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 4:00 PM
Subject: Re: PAW week 12 catch-up
Welcome
, 2011 7:33 PM
Subject: Re: PAW week 12 catch-up
Christine,
I like those moon shots.
I get really confused as the numbering is backwards,
and next takes me to an older picture.
Regards, Bob S.
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 4:00 PM, DagT li...@thrane.name wrote:
Welcome back, I was starting to wonder. I
On 2/26/2011 10:58 PM, Brian Walters wrote:
On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 21:16 -0600, Christine Aguila
cagu...@earthlink.net wrote:
Hi Everyone: I know things are a bit politically charged in the U.S.
right
now given the labor issue, and I'm sure most of you know by now, I'm pro
labor. I just wanted
In this instance the Firemen and Police, who actually risk their lives
in performance of the duty are exempted. .
By the way there are plenty of protests against CEO's and executives
compensation. Usually in stock holders meetings. The difference is
that they can't hold a gun to your head
On 2/28/2011 1:14 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
GM's new Cruze is very competitive with the best of the small imports:
http://www.nytimes.com/pages/automobiles/index.html
Paul
Over here Cruze is often seen on the street, yet it does not have the
same reputation or pedigree as its Japanese or
It will be interesting to see how things work out for the big three over
the next decade or so.
Yeah - Go FORD !
Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
- Original Message -
From: mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com
Subject: Re: paw week 8--please read before
All of my GMC and or Chevy trucks, 4x4, have had transmission issues,
expensive ones to.
It will most likely keep me from buying another, but, i do like the
ride and seat in the gm'S
dave
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 12:26 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
From: William Robb
On
From: William Robb
On 27/02/2011 2:14 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
Read today's NY Times review of the Chevrolet Cruze, it puts Accord and Civic
to shame.
GM has always had a nice car off the line. What will separate the Cruze
from the Civic is life expectancy.
This is why I put very little
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
snip
I do find it interesting that a lot of teachers buy Hondas and Toyota that
are produced in right to work states by non-union workers. There's a bit of
do as I say, not as I do in that kind of reasoning.
Your
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
snip the UAW raises my hacklessnip
Really? I hadn't noticed...
;-)
cheers,
frank
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On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 10:16 PM, Christine Aguila
cagu...@earthlink.net wrote:
Hi Everyone: I know things are a bit politically charged in the U.S. right
now given the labor issue, and I'm sure most of you know by now, I'm pro
labor. I just wanted to say I'm not pushing my political views
That's a really good set Christine. Your first choice is a good one,
but I think this one is much more powerful than your second choice:
http://www.caguila.com/caguila/chglaborrally/content/_IGP7155_large.html
Chris
On 27 February 2011 03:16, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote:
Hi
Despite the fact that you eventually turned demonstrator, you did an
excellent job as a photographer, Christine.
I am not offended, obviously, though a little devil inside me begs me to
type down the question - aren't you going to overthrow your government
too? And then another little devil
Really nicely caught, Christine! Especially like #1.
Jack
--- On Sat, 2/26/11, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote:
From: Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net
Subject: paw week 8--please read before looking
To: pdml@pdml.net
Date: Saturday, February 26, 2011, 7:16 PM
Hi
That first picture is very strong. Maybe crop it a bit at the right? -T
On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
Christine - I love these... and I'm with you, too. Good job!
ann
Christine Aguila wrote:
Hi Everyone: I know things are a bit politically
I like them both, however i really like the first shot. Great detail
and emotion here.
Dave
On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 10:16 PM, Christine Aguila
cagu...@earthlink.net wrote:
Hi Everyone: I know things are a bit politically charged in the U.S. right
now given the labor issue, and I'm sure
Boris,
No armed revolts here, but many unhappy people.
The perception is that public employees - teachers, police, firemen
are retiring at 2/3 or 3/4 of annual salary as paid by the state government.
Most people are not covered by such pensions and have seen their
retirement 'nest egg' fall by
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
Boris,
No armed revolts here, but many unhappy people.
The perception is that public employees - teachers, police, firemen
are retiring at 2/3 or 3/4 of annual salary as paid by the state government.
Most people are
Bob, Frank, I was merely making a passing joke on the way Christine
described her being both the part of the demonstration and an external
observer with the camera.
I realize that social and economic pressure is high in your country,
although specifics vary with areas, etc. We have very
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
Bob, Frank, I was merely making a passing joke on the way Christine
described her being both the part of the demonstration and an external
observer with the camera.
I realize that social and economic pressure is high in
No, No now Frank,
I was trying to be neutral about it.
The teachers, police, and firemen make valuable contributions,
and we have a contract with them that we must honor.
I'm just reflecting what I heard last Monday at dinner with my car buddies.
One is a retired teacher headed to Florida for 2
On 27/02/2011 15:40, Bob Sullivan wrote:
Boris,
No armed revolts here, but many unhappy people.
The perception is that public employees - teachers, police, firemen
are retiring at 2/3 or 3/4 of annual salary as paid by the state government.
Most people are not covered by such pensions and have
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
No, No now Frank,
I was trying to be neutral about it.
The teachers, police, and firemen make valuable contributions,
and we have a contract with them that we must honor.
I'm just reflecting what I heard last Monday
: Saturday, February 26, 2011 9:16 PM
Subject: Re: paw week 8--please read before looking
Well done. I like the composition on the second shot, where you took
advantage of the interesting background. Nice tonality on both as well.
Paul
On Feb 26, 2011, at 10:16 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:
Hi
Thanks, Tim. I'll take a look at a possible crop. Cheers, Christine
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From: Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 9:43 PM
Subject: Re: paw week 8--please read before looking
That first picture
Thanks, Brian. I see Stan answered your question about quorum and the 14
Dems. Cheers, Christine
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From: Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm
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Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 9:58 PM
Subject: Re: paw week 8--please read
And Frank,
I want to tell you something that will make you happy.
We visited rich friends in a gated community in Naples Florida.
4 people on their block were early retirees from General Motors.
Their pension benefits were capped at $72K.
(I know that's a lot, but it's a lot less than they were
Christine,
I do like Stan's choices better than yours.
(Well they're all your choices aren't they...)
Thanks for taking us to the protest!
Regards, Bob S.
On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 9:59 PM, Stan Halpin
s...@stans-photography.info wrote:
Very nice! Though I don't much care for the second - too
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
And Frank,
I want to tell you something that will make you happy.
We visited rich friends in a gated community in Naples Florida.
4 people on their block were early retirees from General Motors.
Their pension benefits
, Ann and Stan! Cheers, Christine
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From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 10:24 PM
Subject: Re: paw week 8--please read before looking
Stan Halpin wrote:
Very nice! Though I don't much
Thanks, Frank. Yep, the emotion that frame conveys is what caught my eye.
Cheers, Christine
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From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 10:28 PM
Subject: Re: paw week 8--please read
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Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 2:10 AM
Subject: Re: paw week 8--please read before looking
That's a really good set Christine. Your first choice is a good one,
but I think this one is much more powerful than your second choice:
http://www.caguila.com/caguila
On 27/02/2011 17:28, frank theriault wrote:
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Bob Sullivanrf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
And Frank,
I want to tell you something that will make you happy.
We visited rich friends in a gated community in Naples Florida.
4 people on their block were early retirees
- Original Message -
From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 2:23 AM
Subject: Re: paw week 8--please read before looking
Despite the fact that you eventually turned demonstrator, you did an
excellent job
Thanks, Jack! Cheers, Christine
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From: Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 7:37 AM
Subject: Re: paw week 8--please read before looking
Really nicely caught, Christine! Especially like #1.
Jack
Thanks, Dave! Cheers, Christine
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From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 8:34 AM
Subject: Re: paw week 8--please read before looking
I like them both, however i really like the first
Thanks, Bob. Stan does make some good points. Cheers, Christine
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From: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 10:26 AM
Subject: Re: paw week 8--please read before looking
Christine,
I do
You do know that about 2/3 of the highest grossing US companies and 68%
of foreign companies working in the US paid virtually no tax last year?
The injustice of the situation is radically different to the
perception. Many people outside the US are astonished at the way
turkeys keep voting
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
the French have the right attitude. Start work at 35, retire at 40 and let
the Germans pay for it.
...and drink lots of wine...
;-)
cheers,
frank
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Mike,
GM did go bankrupt.
US tax laws structured how the funds were kept.
(Yes, we'll allow these tax breaks for your higher paid individuals,
but the money will be co-mingled with all other corporate assets.)
Regards, Bob S.
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 9:37 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com
On Feb 27, 2011, at 10:37 AM, mike wilson wrote:
On 27/02/2011 17:28, frank theriault wrote:
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Bob Sullivanrf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
And Frank,
I want to tell you something that will make you happy.
We visited rich friends in a gated community in Naples
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Paul Stenquist
pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
snip It was also necessary due to onerous obligations to the union.
Heaven forbid we should pay workers a fair wage...
Many of those agreements were made at a time when the Detroit automakers
monopolized the U.S.
On 27/02/2011 17:51, Paul Stenquist wrote:
On Feb 27, 2011, at 10:37 AM, mike wilson wrote:
On 27/02/2011 17:28, frank theriault wrote:
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Bob Sullivanrf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
And Frank,
I want to tell you something that will make you happy.
We visited
Frank,
I wouldn't spin it so anti-auto maker management.
Managers gave the union the wage and benefits packages they wanted,
then passed the costs onto the consumers.
Low priced cars like the VW Beetle made inroads in the US market.
Customers began to vote on price and managers responded.
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
Frank,
I wouldn't spin it so anti-auto maker management.
I'm not saying that unions didn't or don't have a hand in the current
state of things, but I think it's naive to put ~all~ the blame on
unions (as I perceived had
Mike,
This is again a case of the 'Haves' vs the 'Have-nots'.
Only a small portion of our population is unionized in the USA.
The auto unions were the most effective for their members and
extracted dream wages and benefits from management.
People vied for jobs on the auto assembly line, mindless
- Original Message -
From: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com
Rather, it is a backlash against those who hold the union jobs - thru
luck or special
circumstances or nepotism but not thru any skill or special merit.
The unions restrict who the high paying jobs are open to.
Yea,
Frank,
The VW made the first inroads, but low wage car companies turned the market.
It's not the BMW or Mercedes that was competing with the Dodge Dart.
And now the Korean car companies are undercutting all the other makers.
I don't hold the auto company's management blameless in all this.
They
Christine,
Sorry, I didn't mean to offend you. I was speaking about the United
Auto Workers Union and assembly line work. My sister,
daughter-in-law, nephew, and brother-in-law are all teachers. I see
how hard they work and what skills they bring to their jobs, and I
couldn't do it.
Let me
pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 1:28 PM
Subject: Re: paw week 8--please read before looking
Christine,
Sorry, I didn't mean to offend you. I was speaking about the United
Auto Workers Union and assembly line work. My sister,
daughter-in-law, nephew, and brother-in-law are all
On Feb 27, 2011, at 12:51 PM, frank theriault wrote:
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Paul Stenquist
pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
snip It was also necessary due to onerous obligations to the union.
Heaven forbid we should pay workers a fair wage...
Many of those agreements were made
On Feb 27, 2011, at 12:21 PM, mike wilson wrote:
On 27/02/2011 17:51, Paul Stenquist wrote:
On Feb 27, 2011, at 10:37 AM, mike wilson wrote:
On 27/02/2011 17:28, frank theriault wrote:
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Bob Sullivanrf.sulli...@gmail.com
wrote:
And Frank,
I want to
On Feb 27, 2011, at 1:27 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
Frank,
I wouldn't spin it so anti-auto maker management.
Managers gave the union the wage and benefits packages they wanted,
then passed the costs onto the consumers.
Low priced cars like the VW Beetle made inroads in the US market.
On Feb 27, 2011, at 1:55 PM, frank theriault wrote:
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
Frank,
I wouldn't spin it so anti-auto maker management.
I'm not saying that unions didn't or don't have a hand in the current
state of things, but I think it's
From: Bob Sullivan
Boris,
No armed revolts here, but many unhappy people.
The perception is that public employees - teachers, police, firemen
are retiring at 2/3 or 3/4 of annual salary as paid by the state government.
Most people are not covered by such pensions and have seen their
retirement
On Feb 27, 2011, at 2:08 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:
- Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com
Rather, it is a backlash against those who hold the union jobs - thru
luck or special
circumstances or nepotism but not thru any skill or special merit.
The
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Christine,
Sorry, I didn't mean to offend you. I was speaking about the United
Auto Workers Union and assembly line work. My sister,
daughter-in-law, nephew, and brother-in-law are all teachers. I see
how hard they work and what skills
On Feb 26, 2011, at 7:16 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:
Hi Everyone: I know things are a bit politically charged in the U.S. right
now given the labor issue, and I'm sure most of you know by now, I'm pro
labor. I just wanted to say I'm not pushing my political views on anyone
here, so I
From: frank theriault
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
Boris,
No armed revolts here, but many unhappy people.
The perception is that public employees - teachers, police, firemen
are retiring at 2/3 or 3/4 of annual salary as paid by the state
From: mike wilson
On 27/02/2011 15:40, Bob Sullivan wrote:
Boris,
No armed revolts here, but many unhappy people.
The perception is that public employees - teachers, police, firemen
are retiring at 2/3 or 3/4 of annual salary as paid by the state government.
Most people are not covered
From: mike wilson
On 27/02/2011 17:28, frank theriault wrote:
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Bob Sullivanrf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
And Frank,
I want to tell you something that will make you happy.
We visited rich friends in a gated community in Naples Florida.
4 people on their
From: Bob W
You do know that about 2/3 of the highest grossing US companies and 68%
of foreign companies working in the US paid virtually no tax last year?
The injustice of the situation is radically different to the
perception. Many people outside the US are astonished at the way
From: frank theriault
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Paul Stenquist
pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: snip It was also necessary due to
onerous obligations to the union.
Heaven forbid we should pay workers a fair wage...
Many of those agreements were made at a time when the Detroit
On Feb 27, 2011, at 5:44 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
From: frank theriault
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Paul Stenquist
pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: snip It was also necessary due to
onerous obligations to the union.
Heaven forbid we should pay workers a fair wage...
Many of those
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