Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-19 Thread P. J. Alling
Not in the strictest sense. No one credible ever accused him of personal enrichment. William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Tom Reese Subject: Re: The Photographer's Rights We in the US had a President some years back by the name of Richard Nixon. He uttered a line

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-19 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: P. J. Alling Subject: Re: The Photographer's Rights Not in the strictest sense. No one credible ever accused him of personal enrichment. I see. The quickie online dictionary I use from time to time doesn't mention personal enrichment as a requirement

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-19 Thread Shel Belinkoff
However, his dog, Checkers, died a multi-millionaire and left the bulk of his estate to Nixon. H Shel [Original Message] From: P. J. Alling Not in the strictest sense. No one credible ever accused him of personal enrichment. William Robb wrote: Didn't he turn out to be

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-19 Thread Fred
We in the US had a President some years back by the name of Richard Nixon. He uttered a line that became somewhat famous: I am not a crook. My reply was meant to be a play on that old phrase. Didn't he turn out to be a crook? Actually, he was a crook from the get-go... Fred

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-19 Thread Bob Blakely
From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] What a boring neighbourhood you live in! No psycho biker gangs, I am a member of a psycho biker gang. They don't bother me. no corrupt cops, They may exist, but my few dealings with local police and CHP (occasional traffic ticket, prepublished driver

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-19 Thread Bob Blakely
From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just to clarify. The government outlawed semi automatic firearms. Not all guns. Don't worry, they'll finish the job. Regards, Bob... - The art of taxation consists in so plucking the goose

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-19 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Bob Blakely Subject: Re: The Photographer's Rights I'm afraid there's a difference between I bet and I would bet. Yes. The second is a lie. You did not, so you wouldn't. But it's the kind of bait we all use at one time or another. C'mon Bob, it's

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-19 Thread mike wilson
Bob Blakely wrote: From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] I must revise my perceptions of the USA. Nah. Don't do that. Hold on to your stereotypes so that the folks you surround yourself with may continue to think you an intellectual, and you can continue to find acceptance from your

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-19 Thread Gonz
Bob Blakely wrote: From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just to clarify. The government outlawed semi automatic firearms. Not all guns. Don't worry, they'll finish the job. Its true. All it will take is some guy going crazy with a bolt action rifle. Supposedly JFK was assasinated

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-19 Thread Bob Blakely
Damn! You're right! I claim a free senior moment. Regards, Bob... - The art of taxation consists in so plucking the goose as to obtain the largest possible amount of feathers with the smallest possible amount of hissing. -

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-19 Thread Bob Blakely
From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bob Blakely wrote: From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] I must revise my perceptions of the USA. // Note sarcastic humor below Nah. Don't do that. Hold on to your stereotypes so that the folks you surround yourself

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-19 Thread Bob Blakely
They are (that is the design has the capacity for) the greatest accuracy. Keep in mind that sniper rifles have exactly the same requirements as match (competition target) rifles. In fact, military sniper rifles ARE repainted match rifles. On this basis, some advocate the banning of rifles with

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-19 Thread keithw
Gonz wrote: Bob Blakely wrote: From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just to clarify. The government outlawed semi automatic firearms. Not all guns. Don't worry, they'll finish the job. Its true. All it will take is some guy going crazy with a bolt action rifle. Supposedly JFK

RE: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-19 Thread Bob W
Thanks, Shel - I nearly broke my jaw laughing... -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] However, his dog, Checkers, died a multi-millionaire and left the bulk of his estate to Nixon. H Shel [Original Message] From:

RE: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-19 Thread Bob W
-Original Message- From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm afraid there's a difference between I bet and I would bet. Yes. The second is a lie. You did not, so you wouldn't. But it's the kind of bait we all use at one time or another. C'mon Bob, it's called

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-19 Thread John Forbes
Surely that statement was made by his vp, Spiro T Agnew. He kept saying it, until the police arrested him. John On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 14:37:05 +0100, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Tom Reese Subject: Re: The Photographer's Rights We

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-19 Thread Fred
Surely that statement was made by his vp, Spiro T Agnew. He kept saying it, until the police arrested him. ...surely a source of satisfaction for the effete intellectual snobs (i.e., anyone with a 3-digit IQ) who were his critics... vBg Fred

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-19 Thread Cotty
On 19/8/05, Bob Blakely, discombobulated, unleashed: As to the spelling, we tried our best to rid English of unnecessary letters but were not completely successful. Ded should be completely acceptable, as the a is unnecessary. We also took a stab at eliminating the UK's national dyslexia -

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-19 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Bob W Subject: RE: The Photographer's Rights What makes you think he didn't? What makes you think I think?

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-19 Thread Graywolf
. J. Alling Subject: Re: The Photographer's Rights Not in the strictest sense. No one credible ever accused him of personal enrichment. I see. The quickie online dictionary I use from time to time doesn't mention personal enrichment as a requirement of crookedness. It only requires engaging

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-19 Thread Tom C
William Robb hen-pecked at his keyboard: What makes you think I think? I would say You are therefore you think. However I personally know of some exceptions to the rule.

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-19 Thread Bob Blakely
a philosopher. - Socrates - Original Message - From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 2:00 PM Subject: Re: The Photographer's Rights William Robb hen-pecked at his keyboard: What makes you think I think? I would say You are therefore

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-19 Thread John Forbes
On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 21:32:48 +0100, Graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote, inter alia, about Nixon: Funny thing is he probably did more good than any president in US history, but the only thing he is remembered for is Watergate. graywolf Would you care to expand on that? I remember that he

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-19 Thread Kevin Waterson
This one time, at band camp, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you want, you can still get a gun. Just not one that shoots as fast as you can pull the trigger. You would need a _very_ good reason to have a firearm now in .au As an aside, I went to hand in a 12g shotgun at a local police

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-19 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 8/19/2005 1:33:54 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Funny thing is he probably did more good than any president in US history, but the only thing he is remembered for is Watergate. graywolf === Personally, I can think of quite a few presidents who did

RE: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-18 Thread Gautam Sarup
: The Photographer's Rights - Original Message - From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax list pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 4:20 AM Subject: Re: The Photographer's Rights On 16/8/05, Tom Reese, discombobulated, unleashed: You might want to take

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-18 Thread Tom Reese
Gautam Sarup wrote: Libertarian. Unfortunately they come with their own kooks: I am not a kook. Tom Reese

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-18 Thread Kevin Waterson
This one time, at band camp, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In my country, they used the actions of a somewhat deranged person with a hunting rifle to put in place a completely useless firearms registry program which has cost billions of dollars and done very little if anything

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-18 Thread Frantisek
OK guys, do me a favour please - stop talking guns here. Frantisek

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-18 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Tom Reese Subject: Re: The Photographer's Rights Gautam Sarup wrote: Libertarian. Unfortunately they come with their own kooks: I am not a kook. I'll second that. William Robb

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-18 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Kevin Waterson Subject: Re: The Photographer's Rights I recall some time ago an American friend telling me 'Citizens have guns, subjects do not' and I thought that a little right wing.. Now I am not so sure. One of our more zelous right wingers stated

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-18 Thread Lewis Matthew
Gautam Sarup wrote: Libertarian. Unfortunately they come with their own kooks: Indeed. You should also note that both Liberals and Conservatives also have their own kooks - perhaps more than their share. Lewis _

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-18 Thread E.R.N. Reed
Kevin Waterson wrote: This one time, at band camp, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In my country, they used the actions of a somewhat deranged person with a hunting rifle to put in place a completely useless firearms registry program which has cost billions of dollars and done very

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-18 Thread Lewis Matthew
OK guys, do me a favour please - stop talking guns here. Frantisek Is your objection to guns or to volatile/politica/controversial subjects? If the group moves entirely away from controversy, there won't be much here - not even about photography. Lewis

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-18 Thread Steve Jolly
Lewis Matthew wrote: Is your objection to guns or to volatile/politica/controversial subjects? If the group moves entirely away from controversy, there won't be much here - not even about photography. Guns are very much off-topic and an inflammatory subject besides, given the extremely wide

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-18 Thread Shel Belinkoff
LOL It should be noted that there was a Pentax made a spy camera that concealed a gun. Pentax and guns go together well ;-)) http://www.aohc.it/oddse1.htm (scroll down to the C.I.A. single-shot gun-camera) Lends new meaning to grabbing one's camera to go shooting Shel [Original Message]

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-18 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Lewis Matthew Subject: Re: The Photographer's Rights OK guys, do me a favour please - stop talking guns here. Frantisek Is your objection to guns or to volatile/politica/controversial subjects? If the group moves entirely away from controversy

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-18 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: E.R.N. Reed Subject: Re: The Photographer's Rights Some years ago, a deranged fellow opened fire inside a restaurant in Texas. This incident was cited often in the campaign to pass a concealed carry law here (the theory being, several people

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-18 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: Re: The Photographer's Rights LOL It should be noted that there was a Pentax made a spy camera that concealed a gun. Pentax and guns go together well ;-)) http://www.aohc.it/oddse1.htm (scroll down to the C.I.A. single-shot gun

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-18 Thread E.R.N. Reed
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: E.R.N. Reed Subject: Re: The Photographer's Rights Some years ago, a deranged fellow opened fire inside a restaurant in Texas. This incident was cited often in the campaign to pass a concealed carry law here (the theory being

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-18 Thread Lewis Matthew
From: Steve Jolly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lewis Matthew wrote: Is your objection to guns or to volatile/politica/controversial subjects? If the group moves entirely away from controversy, there won't be much here - not even about photography. Guns are very much off-topic and an inflammatory

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-18 Thread Bob Blakely
@pdml.net Subject: RE: The Photographer's Rights Quoting Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]: How is it possible to have a rational dislike of an ethnic minority? Lets say for example that every dealing you have, be it personal or business, with a particular ethnic group, you get dissed and/or ripped off

RE: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-18 Thread Bob W
Valid and rational conclusion, or not, that IS what happens in the normal course of human events. Indeed, but that's not what I was questioning. -- Cheers, Bob

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-18 Thread Tom C
Bob Blakely wrote: Valid and rational conclusion, or not, that IS what happens in the normal course of human events. Further, the chicken was absolutely right - until it's death. If I'm crapped on continually in ANY situation by people of some different (sub) culture, I WILL avoid the

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-18 Thread P. J. Alling
Only for a short while. William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: Re: The Photographer's Rights LOL It should be noted that there was a Pentax made a spy camera that concealed a gun. Pentax and guns go together well ;-)) http://www.aohc.it/oddse1

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-18 Thread keithw
Tom C wrote: Bob Blakely wrote: Valid and rational conclusion, or not, that IS what happens in the normal course of human events. Further, the chicken was absolutely right - until it's death. If I'm crapped on continually in ANY situation by people of some different (sub) culture, I WILL

RE: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-18 Thread Bob W
Hi, In my field I find that people of a certain ethnic background have an overwheming propensity to lie about their experience, lie on their resumes, are arrogant, do you think this is because of their ethnic background? Could there be other reasons, or do you seriously think this is some

RE: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-18 Thread Tom C
Bob W. wrote: do you think this is because of their ethnic background? Could there be other reasons, or do you seriously think this is some sort of genetic propensity? It's not a genetic propensity, it's a learned behavior in their culture. Many of them tell me that THEY THEMSELVES prefer

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-18 Thread P. J. Alling
Actually it's not. Bob W wrote: Hi, In my field I find that people of a certain ethnic background have an overwheming propensity to lie about their experience, lie on their resumes, are arrogant, do you think this is because of their ethnic background? Could there be other

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-18 Thread mike wilson
. - Jean-Baptiste Colbert, minister of finance to French King Louis XIV - Original Message - From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 3:41 PM Subject: RE: The Photographer's Rights That's not a valid or a rational conclusion. You

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-18 Thread Bob Blakely
of finance to French King Louis XIV - Original Message - From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 3:41 PM Subject: RE: The Photographer's Rights That's not a valid or a rational conclusion. You are using induction, which is fraught

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-18 Thread Lewis Matthew
From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] I would willingly bet all my Pentax gear that the group that has caused you most problems has been white middle aged males. In my field of work you would be dead wrong. You can keep your Pentax gear, however :-) Lewis

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-18 Thread Cotty
On 18/8/05, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed: Bob Blakely (VOICE OF REASON). Mark!! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-18 Thread Glen
Belinkoff Subject: Re: The Photographer's Rights LOL It should be noted that there was a Pentax made a spy camera that concealed a gun. Pentax and guns go together well ;-)) http://www.aohc.it/oddse1.htm (scroll down to the C.I.A. single-shot gun-camera) One wonders if it's an SMC

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-18 Thread keithw
Bob Blakely wrote: You are incorrect. The only subculture that I come in contact with that invariably (so far) gives me trouble is the Hispanic gang culture near my area. That is not to say that all white middle aged males have treated me well, or that all the Hispanic gang members have

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-18 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Not SMC - this was made prior to the use of such coatings. Shel [Original Message] From: P. J. Alling Only for a short while. William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: Re: The Photographer's Rights LOL It should be noted

RE: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-18 Thread Gautam Sarup
Unfortunately they come with their own kooks: I am not a kook. Denial noted but what is it in reference to? Gautam -Original Message- From: Tom Reese [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 4:13 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: The Photographer's

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-18 Thread Herb Chong
that's better than displeasing almost everyone. Herb - Original Message - From: E.R.N. Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 12:56 PM Subject: Re: The Photographer's Rights So what we've really established in this discussion

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-18 Thread P. J. Alling
:13 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: The Photographer's Rights Gautam Sarup wrote: Libertarian. Unfortunately they come with their own kooks: I am not a kook. Tom Reese -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-18 Thread mike wilson
. - Jean-Baptiste Colbert, minister of finance to French King Louis XIV - Original Message - From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 3:41 PM Subject: RE: The Photographer's Rights That's not a valid or a rational conclusion. You are using

RE: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-17 Thread Bob W
I have concluded that all governments want to be totalitarian, and are always working towards that end. They use whatever tools they have at their disposal to restrict rights and freedoms, and to generally inflict their will on the people they ostensibly are there to serve. In my

RE: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-17 Thread Bob W
How is it possible to have a rational dislike of an ethnic minority? -- Cheers, Bob It already has started. If you have a personal dislike of an ethnic minority, be it rational or not, you are not allowed to voice it in Australia. And what makes people think eschelon does not vet posts

RE: Another Photographer's Rights Question

2005-08-17 Thread Gautam Sarup
unobjective that it leaves the definition of crime to unspecified persons. Regards, Gautam -Original Message- From: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 11:18 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Another Photographer's Rights Question You probably can

Re: Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-17 Thread mike wilson
From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/08/16 Tue PM 11:41:56 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: The Photographer's Rights - Original Message - From: keithw Subject: Re: The Photographer's Rights All governments that are not obviously Totalitarian

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-17 Thread Kevin Waterson
This one time, at band camp, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How is it possible to have a rational dislike of an ethnic minority? I am sure there are folks who could argue this, KKK members perhaps but I am not one of them. kevin -- Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-17 Thread Kevin Waterson
This one time, at band camp, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hear, hear! I vote for Bill. I'll throw my vote that way also. So Bill, are you now going run for office and straighten out this mess so we can all get back to taking some photos? Kind regards Kevin -- Democracy is two wolves and

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-17 Thread Cotty
On 16/8/05, Tom Reese, discombobulated, unleashed: You might want to take this quiz: http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html Left Liberal. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-17 Thread Toralf Lund
Cotty wrote: On 16/8/05, Toralf Lund, discombobulated, unleashed: Another thing is that you mass murderers isn't really what you should fear most. It is actually a lot more likely that someone you know will kill you in your own home... You misunderstand me. I fear the mass

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-17 Thread keithw
Cotty wrote: On 16/8/05, Tom Reese, discombobulated, unleashed: You might want to take this quiz: http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html Left Liberal. Cheers, Cotty I came out as a centrist, something I never gave much thought about being... As I gave it some thought, I realized

RE: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-17 Thread Doug Franklin
On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 07:58:59 +0100, Bob W wrote: I have concluded that all governments want to be totalitarian, and are always working towards that end. They use whatever tools they have at their disposal to restrict rights and freedoms, and to generally inflict their will on the

RE: Another Photographer's Rights Question

2005-08-17 Thread w__robb
Quoting Gautam Sarup [EMAIL PROTECTED]: You can't legally publish the photographs in a way that would be offensive to the persons shown in the picture, even though the pictures are legally aquired. The problem I have is what defining what constitutes offensive to the persons shown in the

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-17 Thread w__robb
Quoting Kevin Waterson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This one time, at band camp, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hear, hear! I vote for Bill. I'll throw my vote that way also. So Bill, are you now going run for office and straighten out this mess so we can all get back to taking some photos?

RE: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-17 Thread w__robb
Quoting Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]: How is it possible to have a rational dislike of an ethnic minority? Lets say for example that every dealing you have, be it personal or business, with a particular ethnic group, you get dissed and/or ripped off. Eventually, you will conclude quite rationally

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-17 Thread w__robb
Quoting Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 16/8/05, Tom Reese, discombobulated, unleashed: You might want to take this quiz: http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html Left Liberal. Centrist, with Libertarian and Liberal leanings. Amazing really, I am considered quite the little Conservative where I

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-17 Thread w__robb
Quoting keithw [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I came out as a centrist, something I never gave much thought about being... As I gave it some thought, I realized that as with most Q A quizzes, there ARE no clear yes or no answers to a lot of subjects ~ that the phrase it depends applies as often as

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-17 Thread P. J. Alling
Yes, but it's not politically correct. Most human behavior is rational once you understand the base assumptions. Bob W wrote: How is it possible to have a rational dislike of an ethnic minority? -- Cheers, Bob It already has started. If you have a personal dislike of an ethnic

Re: Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-17 Thread mike wilson
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/08/17 Wed PM 12:43:09 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: The Photographer's Rights Quoting Kevin Waterson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This one time, at band camp, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hear, hear! I vote for Bill. I'll throw my

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-17 Thread P. J. Alling
There are lies, damned lies, and statistics. --Mark Twain Toralf Lund wrote: Cotty wrote: On 16/8/05, Toralf Lund, discombobulated, unleashed: Another thing is that you mass murderers isn't really what you should fear most. It is actually a lot more likely that

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-17 Thread P. J. Alling
Until a real hobgoblin comes along, then the Cynics will never believe in it... Doug Franklin wrote: On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 07:58:59 +0100, Bob W wrote: I have concluded that all governments want to be totalitarian, and are always working towards that end. They use whatever tools they have

RE: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-17 Thread Lewis Matthew
I have concluded that all governments want to be totalitarian, and are always working towards that end. They use whatever tools they have at their disposal to restrict rights and freedoms, and to generally inflict their will on the people [...] ...and in the case of elected

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-17 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 8/17/2005 5:33:16 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary. H. L. Mencken TTYL,

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-17 Thread Christian
- Original Message - From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax list pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 4:20 AM Subject: Re: The Photographer's Rights On 16/8/05, Tom Reese, discombobulated, unleashed: You might want to take this quiz: http

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-17 Thread Toralf Lund
P. J. Alling wrote: There are lies, damned lies, and statistics. --Mark Twain Ah. I got it wrong. Three kinds, of course... Toralf Lund wrote: Cotty wrote: On 16/8/05, Toralf Lund, discombobulated, unleashed: Another thing is that you mass murderers isn't

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-17 Thread P. J. Alling
As a recovering economist I understand the latter two quite well. Toralf Lund wrote: P. J. Alling wrote: There are lies, damned lies, and statistics. --Mark Twain Ah. I got it wrong. Three kinds, of course... Toralf Lund wrote: Cotty wrote: On 16/8/05,

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-17 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: P. J. Alling Subject: Re: The Photographer's Rights Mass. is the nanny state, probably on their own. They could use that as a licence plate logo. WW

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-17 Thread Mark Roberts
Toralf Lund [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: P. J. Alling wrote: There are lies, damned lies, and statistics. --Mark Twain Ah. I got it wrong. Three kinds, of course... And the source of the quotation: It's by Leonard Henry Courtney. Mark Twain *quoted* it but never claimed

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-17 Thread P. J. Alling
: - Original Message - From: P. J. Alling Subject: Re: The Photographer's Rights Mass. is the nanny state, probably on their own. They could use that as a licence plate logo. WW -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-17 Thread P. J. Alling
At least I didn't try to claim it as my own... Mark Roberts wrote: Toralf Lund [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: P. J. Alling wrote: There are lies, damned lies, and statistics. --Mark Twain Ah. I got it wrong. Three kinds, of course... And the source

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-17 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Something similar in New Mexico http://tinyurl.com/drnzp Shel [Original Message] From: P. J. Alling The University of Mass. did remove the musket from the hands of the Minuteman, (the state symbol and university mascot), in a fit of political correctness. You wouldn't want

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-17 Thread Fred
You might want to take this quiz: http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html Left Liberal. Ditto. Fred

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-17 Thread DagT
På 17. aug. 2005 kl. 21.58 skrev Fred: You might want to take this quiz: http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html Left Liberal. Ditto. Same here. Which is strange as according to Norwegian politics I´m more like a conservative liberal. I guess it does tell us something about the

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-17 Thread Fred
The University of Mass. did remove the musket from the hands of the Minuteman, (the state symbol and university mascot), in a fit of political correctness. I don't know about zoo-Mass's mascot and whether he is now musketless or not, but the state emblem displays not a minuteman but an

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-17 Thread Fred
Mass. is the nanny state, probably on their own. ??? Fred

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-17 Thread Powell Hargrave
I'd bet you don't have too many security cameras in your neck of the woods Bill. But those cowboy hats have got to go. They are making it close to impossible for the satellites to keep track of all you westerners. Thank God we have clouds and trees to protect us. Powell For me, the concept

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-17 Thread P. J. Alling
I never said it was the official symbol of the state, but perhaps you should look at the reverse of the current Massachusetts State Quarter, and the 1925 Commemorative Half Dollar, Mass. apparently thought it was enough of a symbol to have the mint put it on those two items. (Perhaps I should

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-17 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Powell Hargrave Subject: Re: The Photographer's Rights I'd bet you don't have too many security cameras in your neck of the woods Bill. But those cowboy hats have got to go. They are making it close to impossible for the satellites to keep track of all

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-17 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: Re: The Photographer's Rights Something similar in New Mexico Thats so sweet. Little Pete, twirling his wittle lassoo. WW

RE: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-17 Thread Bob W
: RE: The Photographer's Rights Quoting Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]: How is it possible to have a rational dislike of an ethnic minority? Lets say for example that every dealing you have, be it personal or business, with a particular ethnic group, you get dissed and/or ripped off

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-17 Thread Gonz
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 August 2005 13:47 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: The Photographer's Rights Quoting Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]: How is it possible to have a rational dislike of an ethnic minority? Lets say for example that every dealing you have

Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-17 Thread Powell Hargrave
Com to think of it, the last couple of summers have been cool and damp here. William Robb Hm. Saskatchabush with trees I know you do have lovely bushy places if a person goes far enough north. My mother came from Christopher Lake so I'm half stubble jumper. Powell

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