On 2/12/10, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:
One thing to note is that you're not a photo editor or publisher,
Cotty. They're buying services if they're booking me for an
assignment. They're buying goods if they're buying a usage license for
an existing photograph.
Yes, booking an
On 1/12/10, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:
In all seriousness: never. I've had editors tell me everything from I
don't know to supplying a highly detailed rate chart, and I've had
editors tell me they couldn't afford the price I set when they didn't
have a rate chart, etc etc, but
One thing to note is that you're not a photo editor or publisher,
Cotty. They're buying services if they're booking me for an
assignment. They're buying goods if they're buying a usage license for
an existing photograph.
Yes, booking an assignment is quite different from selling licensing
for a
You don't join professional organizations to impress clients and
customers. The ASMP isn't going to throw prospective leads your way,
that's not what they do. They provide information and organize events
for members.
Either it's worth it to you or not. It has nothing to do with getting
On Dec 2, 2010, at 5:33 PM, David Parsons wrote:
You don't join professional organizations to impress clients and
customers. The ASMP isn't going to throw prospective leads your way,
that's not what they do. They provide information and organize events
for members.
Either it's worth it
On 30/11/10, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:
First things I ask any prospective client:
- What is your budget for the photos to use in this publication project?
Godders, exactly how many time has the response been blow it out yer
arse! ??
;-)
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Cheers,
Cotty
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On Nov 30, 2010, at 18:57, paul stenquist wrote:
The ASMP is a scam. The dues are $335 a year, for which one gets basically
nothing, other than unrealistic price scales and advice. Been there, done
that.
Asking for $300 could very well be a deal killer here. I wouldn't be
surprised if
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 7:57 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
Asking for $300 could very well be a deal killer here. I wouldn't be
surprised if the book publisher is hoping to get the pics for free or for a
token amount. If he can get $150 for the three pics, he'll be doing
paul stenquist wrote:
On Nov 30, 2010, at 9:46 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
From: paul stenquist
The ASMP is a scam. The dues are $335 a year, for which one gets
basically nothing, other than unrealistic price scales and advice.
Been there, done that.
You may not think it's worth the money,
Never worry about the aesthetic quality of a photograph when a
prospective client is interested in it. That does not influence the
price.
What influences the price is what the photo editor wants for the
project, whether the story editor and author concur with that, and how
much money they have to
On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 2:49 AM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:
On 30/11/10, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:
First things I ask any prospective client:
- What is your budget for the photos to use in this publication project?
Godders, exactly how many time has the response been
That's an interesting distinction in that the shots they're
interested in would probably best fit in the news/journalism genre, even
though they're being used in a book. There is definitely a timeliness
to them, but no relative rarity at all. In fact, they could undoubtedly
get on the
Oh, yeah. Given the prices on textbooks, I'd say the production
budget is a fairly secondary consideration. You probably should have
started out in the high six figures.
-- Walt
On 12/1/2010 8:46 AM, Charles Robinson wrote:
On Nov 30, 2010, at 18:57, paul stenquist wrote:
The ASMP is a
I feel pretty comfortable at $50-per. I don't think it's enough to
scare them off even if it is higher than they're willing to pay.
And, hey ... you never know. They could develop a conscience and
negotiate upward! ;-)
On 12/1/2010 8:58 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010
Hmm ... $335 a year.
At the moment, it's a bit beyond my range. I think I'd be better off
putting that money toward a car for the time being.
But, now I know what happened to Annie Leibovitz.
-- Walt
On 12/1/2010 9:18 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
paul stenquist wrote:
On Nov 30, 2010, at
From: Walter Gilbert
Hmm ... $335 a year.
At the moment, it's a bit beyond my range. I think I'd be better off
putting that money toward a car for the time being.
But, now I know what happened to Annie Leibovitz.
-- Walt
I spend more than $335 a year just on coffee, and I don't even
On Dec 1, 2010, at 2:19 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
From: Walter Gilbert
Hmm ... $335 a year.
At the moment, it's a bit beyond my range. I think I'd be better off
putting that money toward a car for the time being.
But, now I know what happened to Annie Leibovitz.
-- Walt
I spend
Never worry about the aesthetic quality of a photograph when a
prospective client is interested in it.
Boy it that ever true!
Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
- Original Message -
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: What's the going
I would estimate that $50 per shot would be the max for book usage. Very few
pay more for a part-page photo. Many pay less. In any case, specify usage as
first North American rights. That way you retain ownership and can sell them
again if someone else sees them and wants to use them.
Paul
On
Thank, Paul.
I've responded to them accordingly. Now, all I need is some good ol'
PDML finger-crossing action.
-- Walt
On 11/30/2010 4:39 PM, P N Stenquist wrote:
I would estimate that $50 per shot would be the max for book usage. Very few
pay more for a part-page photo. Many pay
First thing I'd do is check the local bookstore chains and see if they
have a copy of The Photographer's Market. It's like $25.00 - $30.00 in
paperback.
I also recommend joining ASMP getting some of the guides available to
members on their web site. If nothing else, get to talk to some of
Walter - also, you might want to specify Single use
Good luck!
ann
Walter Gilbert wrote:
Thank, Paul.
I've responded to them accordingly. Now, all I need is some good ol'
PDML finger-crossing action.
-- Walt
On 11/30/2010 4:39 PM, P N Stenquist wrote:
I would estimate that $50
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 06:47:41PM -0500, John Sessoms wrote:
AFAIK, for IRS purposes making money from photography doesn't
actually entail making a profit. Even if your income from
photography is less than your expenses, it's income, and
professional association dues are a deductible
The ASMP is a scam. The dues are $335 a year, for which one gets basically
nothing, other than unrealistic price scales and advice. Been there, done that.
Asking for $300 could very well be a deal killer here. I wouldn't be surprised
if the book publisher is hoping to get the pics for free or
Thanks for all the advice, y'all.
I went ahead with the price Paul suggested for the simple fact that the
images they mentioned weren't all that unique and similar ones could
be found if needed. They were simple pictures of signs being held up by
rally attendees that didn't require any
Last four book publication licenses (2010 records) I was paid for were
$225, $250, $230, and $215 (full page, one language, non-exclusive
use, typically one geo market). Book covers have gone for $300-450
per. All per photo, typically with single edition press run
stipulations (one of them was for
Thanks, Godfrey. That's something I'll definitely have to file away
for future reference.
But, I suspect the type of photographs you've sold for books would be of
a different sort than the ones they've expressed interest in -- which is
to say that the images themselves were of a
From: John Francis
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 06:47:41PM -0500, John Sessoms wrote:
AFAIK, for IRS purposes making money from photography doesn't
actually entail making a profit. Even if your income from
photography is less than your expenses, it's income, and
professional association dues
From: paul stenquist
The ASMP is a scam. The dues are $335 a year, for which one gets
basically nothing, other than unrealistic price scales and advice.
Been there, done that.
You may not think it's worth the money, but that doesn't make it a scam.
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On Nov 30, 2010, at 9:46 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
From: paul stenquist
The ASMP is a scam. The dues are $335 a year, for which one gets
basically nothing, other than unrealistic price scales and advice.
Been there, done that.
You may not think it's worth the money, but that doesn't
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