On 10/01/07, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What does that mean? Sensible limits equates to what, especially relative
> to using a good, solid tripod?
The 1/FL suggestion is a decent guide plus I can pretty much always
tell when I'm not as steady as I could be, lack of sleep, physica
What does that mean? Sensible limits equates to what, especially relative
to using a good, solid tripod?
Personally, when trying to get the most from my camera, I always use a
t'pod, but I've found that in my dotage I'm just not as steady as I once
was. Perhaps I should make a couple of comparis
On 10/01/07, Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I used a tripod more in the past than I do now. While shooting
> portraits, I found that the tripod robbed me of spontaniety - the
> expressions on the faces changed all the time and by the time I had
> adjusted the tripod, I would miss it. I
>From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence (the process of creativty)
>Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 11:27:35 -0600
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>- Original Messa
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>> Well, Ken, in both cases the tripod provides better results. It's the
>> misuse of the tripod, or not using it in the best m
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From: "Shel Belinkoff" Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence (the process of
creativty)
> So, is "contrived" the key here?
It could be just a casual arrangement:
http://pug.komkon.org/00ma/fruits1.html
Or something a bit more contrived:
http
So, is "contrived" the key here?
Shel
> [Original Message]
> From: David Savage
> > And, just for clarification, what makes a photo a still life?
>
> As far as I'm concerned, the same thing that makes a painting a still
life.
>
> It's a contrived arrangement of inanimate objects. Bowl of fruit
On 1/10/07, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And, just for clarification, what makes a photo a still life?
As far as I'm concerned, the same thing that makes a painting a still life.
It's a contrived arrangement of inanimate objects. Bowl of fruit, vase
of flowers etc.
Cheers,
Dave
Sometimes a cigar is just a still life - OK, not very funny, but
still, if an object isn't alive, and it isn't moving, isn't it a still
life? And, just for clarification, what makes a photo a still life?
Shel
> [Original Message]
> From: William Robb
> - Original Message -
> From:
- Original Message -
From: "Shel Belinkoff" Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence (the process of
creativty)
> Sometimes a cigar is just a still life - OK, not very funny, but
> still, if an object isn't alive, and it isn't moving, isn't it a still
>
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From: "Shel Belinkoff" Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence (the process of
creativty)
> Isn't a fence a still life?
>
Not if it's a cigar.
William Robb
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> Fra: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Dato: 2007/01/09 Tue PM 03:33:23 CET
> Til: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"
> Emne: Re: PESO - American Fence (the process of creativty)
>
> BTW, what's there to "solv
format. So the only times
> > I use the tripod is for still life. I never carry
> > it around.
> >
> >
> > > > Fra: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Dato: 2007/01/09 Tue AM 02:25:11 CET
> > > > Til: "Pen
BTW, what's there to "solve?" The photo is exactly the way I wanted it to
be.
Shel
> [Original Message]
> From: DagT
> I would probably have solved it differently,
> perhaps with a little stealth
> http://home.earthlink.net/~my-pics/amfence.html
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> I use the tripod is for still life. I never carry
> it around.
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> > > Fra: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Dato: 2007/01/09 Tue AM 02:25:11 CET
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results you're talking about are
> > aesthetic, not technical. And even by using the camera/tripod as you
> > suggest, aesthetic results can be crap
> >
> > Shel
> >
> >
> >
> > > [Original Message]
> > > From: Ke
uot;Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Dato: 2007/01/09 Tue AM 02:25:11 CET
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> Emne: Re: PESO - American Fence (the process of creativty)
>
> Well, Ken, in both cases the tripod provides better results. It's the
> misuse of
ou
suggest, aesthetic results can be crap
Shel
> [Original Message]
> From: Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Date: 1/8/2007 12:44:26 PM
> Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence (the process of creativty)
>
> > So, the short answer is, regardl
> >
> >
> > Pi55 everyone off and post a picture of a naked child draped in
the
> > American flag, carrying a gun in one hand & clubbing a baby
> seal with the
> > other.
>
> Spot the paradox..
>
Perhaps it's one of those see-through flags.
Besides, you could probably piss more people
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>>> Date: 2007/01/08 Mon AM 09:14:57 GMT
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>>> Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence (the process of creativty)
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>>> At 06:09 PM 8/01/2007, DagT wrote:
>>>
>>>
; set it up to capture that view.
Kenneth Waller
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From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence (the process of creativty)
> Hi Boris,
>
> To answer your question, there are a few reasons, or maybe several
> va
Thanks although in keeping with the discussion, some people felt I
should have shown more background, other felt a tighter crop or framing
would be better, and some felt that shooting from a different angle might
add something to the pic.
As Rick Nelson once sang, "You can't please everyone
Go for it, and let's see some pics!
Shel
> [Original Message]
> From: Boris Liberman
> However, I myself just a few days ago conceived a project where I would
> try to show the other side of happy life in Israel mostly in a sense of
> what I would call post-Zionism. This of course is totall
Hi Boris,
To answer your question, there are a few reasons, or maybe several
variations on the same reason. First, a tripod is always more stable than
hand held, and since this shot didn't need quick reflexes, and it was easy
to set up the t'pod, why not go for as high a quality as I could get.
DagT wrote:
>> Fra: Doug Franklin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sometimes, it's not about the photo, it's about the viewer.
>
> [...] I often try to make the picture open for interpretation, to
> let the viewer decide what it's about, and sometimes the responses
> to those photographs are really surpris
David Savage wrote:
> Pi55 everyone off and post a picture of a naked child draped in the
> American flag, carrying a gun in one hand & clubbing a baby seal with the
> other.
If it was an American child, you'd also need to work in alcohol and
nukes, at a minimum. ;-)
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DougF (KG4LMZ)
On 1/8/07, mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> >
> > From: David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: 2007/01/08 Mon AM 09:14:57 GMT
> > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> > Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence (the process of creativty)
> >
>
>
> From: David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2007/01/08 Mon AM 09:14:57 GMT
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence (the process of creativty)
>
> At 06:09 PM 8/01/2007, DagT wrote:
> >Or try to show a picture including a nake
> Fra: David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> At 06:09 PM 8/01/2007, DagT wrote:
> >Or try to show a picture including a naked child in different parts of the
> >world .-)
> >
> >DagT
>
>
> Pi55 everyone off and post a picture of a naked child draped in the
> American flag, carrying a gun in on
Or try to show a picture including a naked child in different parts of the
world .-)
DagT
> Fra: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Indeed, Doug ... and let's carry it a step further. Suppose I posted the
> same pic on the anniversary of 9/11, or on July 4th or Memorial Day, or
> when so
At 06:09 PM 8/01/2007, DagT wrote:
>Or try to show a picture including a naked child in different parts of the
>world .-)
>
>DagT
Pi55 everyone off and post a picture of a naked child draped in the
American flag, carrying a gun in one hand & clubbing a baby seal with the
other.
:-)
Dave
> Fra: Doug Franklin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Tim Øsleby wrote:
>
> > But, I have also experienced that I'm not able to communicate the
> > idea if I'm not aware of it when shooting.
>
> There's also the aspect that the same photo can "tell me different
> stories" depending on the mood I'm in, or
Hi!
Doug Franklin wrote:
> Shel Belinkoff wrote:
>
>> I believe the meaning of the pic would
>> change remarkably for many people in each situation, yet it's the same,
>> simple pic - a fence painted to resemble the flag.
>
> It's the thing that annoys me most about so many discussions of "art"
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> I believe the meaning of the pic would
> change remarkably for many people in each situation, yet it's the same,
> simple pic - a fence painted to resemble the flag.
It's the thing that annoys me most about so many discussions of "art"
and "is this art" or "is that art".
Indeed, Doug ... and let's carry it a step further. Suppose I posted the
same pic on the anniversary of 9/11, or on July 4th or Memorial Day, or
when some particular tragedy took place, or on the day Gerald Ford died, or
a new president was inaugurated. I believe the meaning of the pic would
chan
Tim Øsleby wrote:
> But, I have also experienced that I'm not able to communicate the
> idea if I'm not aware of it when shooting.
There's also the aspect that the same photo can "tell me different
stories" depending on the mood I'm in, or things that I've experienced
since the last time I saw it
I find this discussion interesting at two levels. First I find the subject
for the photo interesting. It says something about you as a person and as a
photographer. It also says something about the person who created the fence,
and something about the US. Perhaps it even tells us something general
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