Re: Strip lynchets, a gathering storm and the lamb of God

2007-07-04 Thread ann sanfedele
Bob W wrote: Before breaking my arm, I managed to spend an evening and a day cycling and photographing in West Dorset. The only time I knelt in any of these little churches was to steady the camera on the back of the pew. Maybe there's a reason why I broke my arm...

Re: Strip lynchets, a gathering storm and the lamb of God

2007-07-04 Thread mike wilson
AlunFoto wrote: Thanks Bob, It's indeed hard to imagine there being any truly primeval forest left in Europe at all, not just UK. The definition of ancient woodland is quite interesting, particularly the first two bullet points: # Ancient woodland is land continuously wooded since AD1600

Re: Strip lynchets, a gathering storm and the lamb of God

2007-07-04 Thread mike wilson
frank theriault wrote: On 7/3/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Indians, (Native Americans to the PC crowd), practiced slash and burn agriculture. There wasn't nearly that much Virgin Forest. It's unlikely that the Native American population in what is now North America

Re: Strip lynchets, a gathering storm and the lamb of God

2007-07-03 Thread AlunFoto
Is 600 years the qualifying age for ancient woodland in UK? Up here in the Frostpit we reckon 300 years, but perhaps that's just a practical limit to single out some areas more worthy of protection than others. I'd reckon that absolutely all coniferous forest (well... we don't have much deciduous

RE: Strip lynchets, a gathering storm and the lamb of God

2007-07-03 Thread Bob W
Mike is right about it not being primeval. There is a definition here: http://www.woodland-trust.org.uk/findoutmore/planforactionmore/ancient .htm there is an area of ancient woodland close to me (Oxleas Wood, about 4km away) which apparently dates back 8,000 years, although it has of course been

Re: Strip lynchets, a gathering storm and the lamb of God

2007-07-03 Thread AlunFoto
Thanks Bob, It's indeed hard to imagine there being any truly primeval forest left in Europe at all, not just UK. The definition of ancient woodland is quite interesting, particularly the first two bullet points: # Ancient woodland is land continuously wooded since AD1600 in England and Wales or

Re: Strip lynchets, a gathering storm and the lamb of God

2007-07-03 Thread graywolf
If you want forest to go back to the untouched by man state, it takes several thousand years. What folks do not realize is that before the development of metal tools the forests were man's unrelenting enemy slowly taking over any cleared land. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com

Re: Strip lynchets, a gathering storm and the lamb of God

2007-07-03 Thread frank theriault
On 6/30/07, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Before breaking my arm, I managed to spend an evening and a day cycling and photographing in West Dorset. The only time I knelt in any of these little churches was to steady the camera on the back of the pew. Maybe there's a reason why I broke my

Re: Strip lynchets, a gathering storm and the lamb of God

2007-07-03 Thread AlunFoto
Why would you need several thousand years, Graywolf? Jostein 2007/7/3, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If you want forest to go back to the untouched by man state, it takes several thousand years. What folks do not realize is that before the development of metal tools the forests were man's

Re: Strip lynchets, a gathering storm and the lamb of God

2007-07-03 Thread graywolf
Because it needs to go through a couple of cycles before it is a purely natural forest. The US has lots of what I call National Woodlots (National Forests) that have been more or less allowed to grow wild for 50-100 years. They are still just overgrowth and not a real forest. They never will be

Re: Strip lynchets, a gathering storm and the lamb of God

2007-07-03 Thread AlunFoto
I can only begin to imagine what the deforestation by Europeans in America meant. I've seen some stuff on the Redwoods of California, and that alone is a pretty sad chapter. Come to think of it, the Redwoods do grow rather old don't they? A couple of thousand years for re-naturalisation is

Re: Strip lynchets, a gathering storm and the lamb of God

2007-07-03 Thread P. J. Alling
The Indians, (Native Americans to the PC crowd), practiced slash and burn agriculture. There wasn't nearly that much Virgin Forest. graywolf wrote: Because it needs to go through a couple of cycles before it is a purely natural forest. The US has lots of what I call National Woodlots

Re: Strip lynchets, a gathering storm and the lamb of God

2007-07-03 Thread frank theriault
On 7/3/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Indians, (Native Americans to the PC crowd), practiced slash and burn agriculture. There wasn't nearly that much Virgin Forest. It's unlikely that the Native American population in what is now North America would have been much more than 10

Re: Strip lynchets, a gathering storm and the lamb of God

2007-07-03 Thread graywolf
Yes, but they did it to thousands of acres not millions. Furthermore part of the natural cycle of forests is to periodically burn off sections which starts a new cycle: grass, deciderous, softwood, the cycle is about a thousand years long in the type of forest that was in northeastern North

Re: Strip lynchets, a gathering storm and the lamb of God

2007-07-03 Thread P. J. Alling
Not the size of the forests but how much virgin forest there was. Burn the forest, plant corn and squash around the big trees that are still standing, clear the land one or two more years, move to new location and repeat. You run out of Virgin forest mighty fast that way. frank theriault

Re: Strip lynchets, a gathering storm and the lamb of God

2007-07-02 Thread David Mann
On Jul 2, 2007, at 9:40 AM, Bob W wrote: I especially like the numbered sheep and the rowers. What's with the numbering anyway? table numbers...? Oh, I thought they were racing sheep. - Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Strip lynchets, a gathering storm and the lamb of God

2007-07-02 Thread Doug Franklin
David Mann wrote: Oh, I thought they were racing sheep. Sounds like the beginning of a joke at the expense of the Scots. ;-) -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Strip lynchets, a gathering storm and the lamb of God

2007-07-02 Thread David Savage
I wont say it Dave. Cheers, Dave On 7/2/07, Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Mann wrote: Oh, I thought they were racing sheep. Sounds like the beginning of a joke at the expense of the Scots. ;-) -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Strip lynchets, a gathering storm and the lamb of God

2007-07-02 Thread AlunFoto
Lovely gallery, Bob. They are all good, but I was particularly attracted to the delicate lighting in the shots from the church interior, in this one for example: http://www.web-options.com/Dorset/content/_6266014_large.html Jostein 2007/7/1, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Before breaking my arm, I

Re: Strip lynchets, a gathering storm and the lamb of God

2007-07-02 Thread P. J. Alling
Yes, but we don't have to tell it at this point... Doug Franklin wrote: David Mann wrote: Oh, I thought they were racing sheep. Sounds like the beginning of a joke at the expense of the Scots. ;-) -- All dogs have four legs; my cat has four legs. Therefore, my cat is a dog.

Re: Strip lynchets, a gathering storm and the lamb of God

2007-07-02 Thread mike wilson
Bob W wrote: Very nice gallery. Pretty countryside (England looks so manicured compared to California). Age, I think, mainly. How long one has been settled vs the other. probably. That part of the country has been inhabited continuously since the end of the last Ice Age, I think.

Re: Strip lynchets, a gathering storm and the lamb of God

2007-07-01 Thread Cotty
On 1/7/07, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: Before breaking my arm, I managed to spend an evening and a day cycling and photographing in West Dorset. The only time I knelt in any of these little churches was to steady the camera on the back of the pew. Maybe there's a reason why I broke my

Re: Strip lynchets, a gathering storm and the lamb of God

2007-07-01 Thread Bong Manayon
So you can take these great photos? I love the church photos; the colors are great. Bong On 7/1/07, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Before breaking my arm, I managed to spend an evening and a day cycling and photographing in West Dorset. The only time I knelt in any of these little churches

Re: Strip lynchets, a gathering storm and the lamb of God

2007-07-01 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
It's a grand bunch of photos, Bob, but I think these two ... the numbered sheep and the man climbing earthworks, are my favorites. http://www.web-options.com/Dorset/content/_6255946_large.html http://www.web-options.com/Dorset/content/_6266105_large.html Godfrey On Jun 30, 2007, at 4:15 PM,

Re: Strip lynchets, a gathering storm and the lamb of God

2007-07-01 Thread Cotty
On 1/7/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: It's a grand bunch of photos, Bob, but I think these two ... the numbered sheep http://www.web-options.com/Dorset/content/_6255946_large.html I think that would be excellent in mono (hint hint)... -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ ||

RE: Strip lynchets, a gathering storm and the lamb of God

2007-07-01 Thread Bob W
thanks. The earthworks are Maiden Castle, an Iron Age hill fort built on an earlier neolithic site. I'd wanted to see it for years - it's huge and extremely impressive. I wanted to find a way to show the scale - the jogger conveniently appeared. -- Bob -Original Message- From:

Re: Strip lynchets, a gathering storm and the lamb of God

2007-07-01 Thread Bob Sullivan
Bob, I looked again and my favorites are still the boats in the harbor with the dark skys behind them. The other two landscapes besides the runner are charming as well. Regards, Bob s. On 7/1/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a grand bunch of photos, Bob, but I think these two

RE: Strip lynchets, a gathering storm and the lamb of God

2007-07-01 Thread Bob W
OK: http://www.web-options.com/Lambs.jpg I increased the green and yellow greyscale mix to separate the grass and leaves from the stone, which have similar tonal values. -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cotty Sent: 01 July

Re: Strip lynchets, a gathering storm and the lamb of God

2007-07-01 Thread mike wilson
Bob W wrote: Before breaking my arm, I managed to spend an evening and a day cycling and photographing in West Dorset. The only time I knelt in any of these little churches was to steady the camera on the back of the pew. Maybe there's a reason why I broke my arm...

Re: Strip lynchets, a gathering storm and the lamb of God

2007-07-01 Thread mike wilson
mike wilson wrote: Bob W wrote: Before breaking my arm, I managed to spend an evening and a day cycling and photographing in West Dorset. The only time I knelt in any of these little churches was to steady the camera on the back of the pew. Maybe there's a reason why I broke my arm...

RE: Strip lynchets, a gathering storm and the lamb of God

2007-07-01 Thread Bob W
yes -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mike wilson Sent: 01 July 2007 21:27 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Strip lynchets, a gathering storm and the lamb of God Bob W wrote: Before breaking my arm, I

RE: Strip lynchets, a gathering storm and the lamb of God

2007-07-01 Thread Bob W
thanks. I'm particularly happy with the composition of this one: http://www.web-options.com/Dorset/content/_6266078_large.html It's not at all dramatic, but captures something of the essence of that part of the world. I especially like the way the clover in the foreground is echoed by the dots of

Re: Strip lynchets, a gathering storm and the lamb of God

2007-07-01 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 6/30/2007 4:21:14 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Before breaking my arm, I managed to spend an evening and a day cycling and photographing in West Dorset. The only time I knelt in any of these little churches was to steady the camera on the back of

Re: Strip lynchets, a gathering storm and the lamb of God

2007-07-01 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 7/1/2007 1:55:42 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's not at all dramatic, but captures something of the essence of that part of the world. I especially like the way the clover in the foreground is echoed by the dots of sheep in the middle distance.

RE: Strip lynchets, a gathering storm and the lamb of God

2007-07-01 Thread Bob W
I especially like the numbered sheep and the rowers. What's with the numbering anyway? table numbers...? -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 July 2007 22:26 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re:

Re: Strip lynchets, a gathering storm and the lamb of God

2007-07-01 Thread Steve Desjardins
I also like the penultimate (17) shot of the country side with the fence in the lower left. The balance of elements is pleasing. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Strip lynchets, a gathering storm and the lamb of God

2007-07-01 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Ah, I thought that looked familiar! My friends from London and I went there in 2002, I think it was. It was driving rain as we trudged through the maze and into the interior of the structure, impossible to do much photographically that year as there was no light and no view through the

RE: Strip lynchets, a gathering storm and the lamb of God

2007-07-01 Thread Bob W
Very nice gallery. Pretty countryside (England looks so manicured compared to California). Age, I think, mainly. How long one has been settled vs the other. probably. That part of the country has been inhabited continuously since the end of the last Ice Age, I think. Deforestation

Re: Strip lynchets, a gathering storm and the lamb of God

2007-07-01 Thread Cotty
On 1/7/07, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: OK: http://www.web-options.com/Lambs.jpg I increased the green and yellow greyscale mix to separate the grass and leaves from the stone, which have similar tonal values. That's a stonker. Nice one. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) |

Re: Strip lynchets, a gathering storm and the lamb of God

2007-07-01 Thread Rick Womer
Beautiful gallery, Bob! Every shot is a winner. Rick --- Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Before breaking my arm, I managed to spend an evening and a day cycling and photographing in West Dorset. The only time I knelt in any of these little churches was to steady the camera on the back of

Re: Strip lynchets, a gathering storm and the lamb of God

2007-07-01 Thread Mark Roberts
Cotty wrote: On 1/7/07, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: OK: http://www.web-options.com/Lambs.jpg I increased the green and yellow greyscale mix to separate the grass and leaves from the stone, which have similar tonal values. That's a stonker. Nice one. Hmm, I'm not familiar with the term

Re: Strip lynchets, a gathering storm and the lamb of God

2007-07-01 Thread Mat Maessen
On 6/30/07, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.web-options.com/Dorset/ Am I the only one who really likes http://www.web-options.com/Dorset/content/_6266044_large.html ? Maybe it's because I grew up in an Anglican household, and I can still recite parts of that book from memory... -Mat

Re: Strip lynchets, a gathering storm and the lamb of God

2007-07-01 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jul 1, 2007, at 4:47 PM, Mat Maessen wrote: http://www.web-options.com/Dorset/ Am I the only one who really likes http://www.web-options.com/Dorset/content/_6266044_large.html ? Maybe it's because I grew up in an Anglican household, and I can still recite parts of that book from

Strip lynchets, a gathering storm and the lamb of God

2007-06-30 Thread Bob W
Before breaking my arm, I managed to spend an evening and a day cycling and photographing in West Dorset. The only time I knelt in any of these little churches was to steady the camera on the back of the pew. Maybe there's a reason why I broke my arm... http://www.web-options.com/Dorset/ Bob