Re: WOW - Suggestions for Cleaning Up a Scanned Negative

2004-12-12 Thread Lon Williamson
Shel, a while back I posted a photoshop action I named Poor Man's Ice. Bill Owens, William Rob, and a few others did some testing. If you like, I'll email you a copy. The action itself is small, but the user manual makes the zip file pretty big. It doesn't handle things automatically and can

WOW - Suggestions for Cleaning Up a Scanned Negative

2004-12-08 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi Gang, I've been working to eliminate spots, scratches, and imperfections on an old BW negative that has not been treated well. Here's a sample section: http://home.earthlink.net/~my-pics/sample.jpg (50K file size) Thus far I've been fiddling with this using the clone tool, healing brush,

Re: WOW - Suggestions for Cleaning Up a Scanned Negative

2004-12-08 Thread Joseph Tainter
Wow indeed. Shel, I've had bad scans come out looking like this (in part -- not the whole image). I don't know of shortcuts for this kind of situation. It can take hours of retouching. I would say try a scanner with Digital ICE, but I'm not sure that works with BW film. I could be wrong.

Re: WOW - Suggestions for Cleaning Up a Scanned Negative

2004-12-08 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi Joe ... It's not the scan that's bad, the neg has suffered from poor processing and drying in a dusty environment (one of my first rolls), crummy, scratchy negative sleeves, poor storage, and the ravages of time. ICE doesn't work on conventional BW. My scanner has ICE, BTW ... Shel

Re: WOW - Suggestions for Cleaning Up a Scanned Negative

2004-12-08 Thread Joseph Tainter
Come to think of it, Shel, IIRC, some time ago Polaroid offered a freebie that could do post-hoc dust and scratch corrections. Never used it, so I cannot say anything about it. Memory could be faulty. Worth searching for it? You might try rec.photo.digital with your question. If the Polaroid

Re: WOW - Suggestions for Cleaning Up a Scanned Negative

2004-12-08 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi Joe, There's the Photoshop mailing list which is very helpful, and also the Adobe User-to-User forums, both of which have been very helpful. There are a few options that'll work on some parts of the photo, but, for the most part, it's going to be a fully manual, spot-by-spot , area-by-area

Re: WOW - Suggestions for Cleaning Up a Scanned Negative

2004-12-08 Thread mike wilson
Joseph Tainter wrote: Come to think of it, Shel, IIRC, some time ago Polaroid offered a freebie that could do post-hoc dust and scratch corrections. Never used it, so I cannot say anything about it. Memory could be faulty. Worth searching for it? You might try rec.photo.digital with your

Re: WOW - Suggestions for Cleaning Up a Scanned Negative

2004-12-08 Thread Jostein
Think there's only hard work that can save that one, Shel. Jostein - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 7:18 PM Subject: WOW - Suggestions for Cleaning Up a Scanned Negative Hi Gang, I've been working

Re: WOW - Suggestions for Cleaning Up a Scanned Negative

2004-12-08 Thread Fred Widall
Polaroid's 'Dust Scratch Removal Software' is still available from their website. http://www.polaroid.com/service/software/poladsr/poladsr.html Versions for Mac and Windows available. Seems to do a reasonable job, but whether its heavy duty enough to handle Shel's scan is doubtful.

Re: WOW - Suggestions for Cleaning Up a Scanned Negative

2004-12-08 Thread Patrick Genovese
PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 7:18 PM Subject: WOW - Suggestions for Cleaning Up a Scanned Negative Hi Gang, I've been working to eliminate spots, scratches, and imperfections on an old BW negative that has not been treated well. Here's a sample section: http

Re: WOW - Suggestions for Cleaning Up a Scanned Negative

2004-12-08 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I really wasn't looking for automated tools. There are a number of techniques that one may use in PS that go beyond the simple use of clone, healing brush, and patch tool. I was hoping there might be some options I'd overlooked or am not familiar with, like Katrin Eismann's Float and Move

Re: WOW - Suggestions for Cleaning Up a Scanned Negative

2004-12-08 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Please see my response to Patrick. I'm coming to the conclusion that just slogging through this mess almost pixel by pixel (LOL) is the only way to go. Shel [Original Message] From: Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] Think there's only hard work that can save that one, Shel. Jostein

Re: WOW - Suggestions for Cleaning Up a Scanned Negative

2004-12-08 Thread Juan Buhler
Shel, the most meaningful advice I can give is, get a Wacom tablet or similar if you don't have one. Doing such fix with a mouse would be a huge nightmare. j On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 14:57:06 -0800, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really wasn't looking for automated tools. There are a

Re: WOW - Suggestions for Cleaning Up a Scanned Negative

2004-12-08 Thread Jostein
no matter how. :-( Jostein - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 11:58 PM Subject: Re: WOW - Suggestions for Cleaning Up a Scanned Negative Please see my response to Patrick. I'm coming to the conclusion

Re: WOW - Suggestions for Cleaning Up a Scanned Negative

2004-12-08 Thread Cotty
On 8/12/04, Juan Buhler, discombobulated, unleashed: Shel, the most meaningful advice I can give is, get a Wacom tablet and looking at that scan again I'd swallow the tablet with a large Scotch :-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|

Re: WOW - Suggestions for Cleaning Up a Scanned Negative

2004-12-08 Thread Shel Belinkoff
While I'd like a Wacom (it's on my Hanukah list g) I'm not familiar enough with it to know how much better it would be than a mouse for this and similar projects. There are other scenarios where it's benefit is quite obvious. Guess I just need to get one and see for myself which tool is better

Re: WOW - Suggestions for Cleaning Up a Scanned Negative

2004-12-08 Thread Juan Buhler
I have the Graphire, which I got several year ago. It was cheap (I think around $100), and really, I can't imagine doing that kind of work without it. Haven't had experience with the Intuous. j On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 15:34:25 -0800, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While I'd like a Wacom

Re: WOW - Suggestions for Cleaning Up a Scanned Negative

2004-12-08 Thread Shel Belinkoff
It's actually coming along rather well, although it does require a lot of detail work. Imagine scratches across faces, big white splotches on skin, lots of specks on clothing, all combined with a poorly exposed (burnt highlights, deep shadows, bright sun) and badly processed negative. 'Tis quite

Re: WOW - Suggestions for Cleaning Up a Scanned Negative

2004-12-08 Thread Peter J. Alling
It, (digital ICE), doesn't work with BW. You might try using the Polaroid Dust and Scratch Removal program from http://www.polaroid.com/service/software/poladsr/poladsr.html I think it's only supposed to be available to owners of Polaroid digital products but I simply bypassed their survey page

Re: WOW - Suggestions for Cleaning Up a Scanned Negative

2004-12-08 Thread John Poirier
of cloning and healing. Cheers John Poirier Yellowknife Northwest Territories . - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 4:34 PM Subject: Re: WOW - Suggestions for Cleaning Up a Scanned Negative While I'd like

RE: WOW - Suggestions for Cleaning Up a Scanned Negative

2004-12-08 Thread Dave
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 6:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: WOW - Suggestions for Cleaning Up a Scanned Negative It's actually coming along rather well, although it does require a lot of detail work. Imagine scratches across faces, big white

Re: WOW - Suggestions for Cleaning Up a Scanned Negative

2004-12-08 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi John ... I have Vuescan, and maybe I'll give it a try on BW just for kicks. You're ever so right that the interface is clunky LOL One of the PS gurus at a lab I sometimes used suggested the graphire as well, even though he uses the Intuos at work. He feels that it's more than adequate for

Re: WOW - Suggestions for Cleaning Up a Scanned Negative

2004-12-08 Thread Doug Franklin
On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 15:34:25 -0800, Shel Belinkoff wrote: While I'd like a Wacom (it's on my Hanukah list g) I'm not familiar enough with it to know how much better it would be than a mouse for this and similar projects. There are other scenarios where it's benefit is quite obvious. Guess I

Re: WOW - Suggestions for Cleaning Up a Scanned Negative

2004-12-08 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: Re: WOW - Suggestions for Cleaning Up a Scanned Negative I really wasn't looking for automated tools. Are you using a mouse or a tablet? This took just a few minutes with a pen and tablet: http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/PDMLtemp

Re: WOW - Suggestions for Cleaning Up a Scanned Negative

2004-12-08 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Juan Buhler Subject: Re: WOW - Suggestions for Cleaning Up a Scanned Negative Haven't had experience with the Intuous. I just took delivery of an Intuos 3 6x8 tablet. So far, I am pretty ecstatic with it. William Robb

Re: WOW - Suggestions for Cleaning Up a Scanned Negative

2004-12-08 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Why did you chose the Intuos over the Graphire? Shel [Original Message] From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 12/8/2004 5:59:17 PM Subject: Re: WOW - Suggestions for Cleaning Up a Scanned Negative - Original Message - From: Juan Buhler Subject: Re

Re: WOW - Suggestions for Cleaning Up a Scanned Negative

2004-12-08 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: Re: WOW - Suggestions for Cleaning Up a Scanned Negative Why did you chose the Intuos over the Graphire? The intuos has twice the pressure levels and a much nicer pen. I liked the idea of the buttons on the tablet, and am finding

Re: WOW - Suggestions for Cleaning Up a Scanned Negative

2004-12-08 Thread David Mann
On Dec 9, 2004, at 12:34 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: While I'd like a Wacom (it's on my Hanukah list g) I'm not familiar enough with it to know how much better it would be than a mouse for this and similar projects. There are other scenarios where it's benefit is quite obvious. Guess I just need