RE: WTF? was OT: new camera

2010-10-24 Thread John Sessoms
From: Bob W [...] I feel so proud to stand up and say out loud, I Shoot Olympus! Whew, that feels good. Oh, I'm gay too. ]'-) I thought men like that shot themselves - King George V That's a hoot, since there were persistent rumors that his older brother Albert Victor Christian

Re: OT: new camera

2010-10-24 Thread John Sessoms
From: Jeffery Smith Boorish is putting it mildly. It DOES fall under hate crime (which includes insults and verbal abuse). I think hate crime is a clear line that we don't traverse on this list. Pompous gas bag is not a hate crime. Faggot is. I would prefer the way William F. Buckley introduced

Re: WTF? was OT: new camera

2010-10-24 Thread John Sessoms
From: DagT As an agnostic he forgot me, but I think he hates me too .-) That kind of madmen are always there. At least they don?t have any law on their side anymore. I?m just hope people are not hating religious people in general because of people like him. I don't hate people of religion. I

Re: OT: new camera

2010-10-24 Thread John Sessoms
From: Larry Colen On Oct 24, 2010, at 2:52 PM, Ken Waller wrote: Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: drd1...@gmail.com Subject: Re: OT: new camera Oh, new word alert: the Doug-ban. Is it all percussion or does it have

Re: OT: new camera

2010-10-24 Thread Jeffery Smith
Still, I prefer him over today's far right. But, yes, he was breathtakingly full of himself. Jeffert On Oct 24, 2010, at 7:01 PM, John Sessoms wrote: OTOH, Buckley had his own moments of pompous gas baggery and boorishness. No actual civility from either side here. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss

Re: OT: new camera

2010-10-24 Thread Sandy Harris
Jeffery Smith jsmith...@bellsouth.net wrote: Boorish is putting it mildly. It DOES fall under hate crime (which includes insults and verbal abuse). I think hate crime is a clear line that we don't traverse on this list. Pompous gas bag is not a hate crime. Faggot is. ... Let's not go off the

Re: WTF? was OT: new camera

2010-10-24 Thread paul stenquist
On Oct 24, 2010, at 8:13 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: DagT As an agnostic he forgot me, but I think he hates me too .-) That kind of madmen are always there. At least they don?t have any law on their side anymore. I?m just hope people are not hating religious people in general because of

Re: WTF? was OT: new camera

2010-10-24 Thread Walter Gilbert
As an agnostic, I have to admit it seems only fair to hold co-irreligionists responsible for the crimes of Mao, Lenin, Stalin, Pol Pot, Castro, Ceausescu, etc. On 10/24/2010 7:13 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: DagT As an agnostic he forgot me, but I think he hates me too .-) That kind of

Re: WTF? was OT: new camera

2010-10-24 Thread P. J. Alling
On 10/24/2010 8:13 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: DagT As an agnostic he forgot me, but I think he hates me too .-) That kind of madmen are always there. At least they don?t have any law on their side anymore. I?m just hope people are not hating religious people in general because of people

Re: OT: new camera

2010-10-24 Thread Jeffery Smith
On Oct 24, 2010, at 7:48 PM, Sandy Harris wrote: However, it is obviously not a hate crime. Really? Does one have to use that word while committing an armed robbery or punching the recipient? Gay bashing has become a very hot button issue in the US, particularly in the past month, as has

Re: WTF? was OT: new camera

2010-10-24 Thread Jeffery Smith
You're off the hook. God isn't convinced of your existence. Jeffery On Oct 24, 2010, at 7:52 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote: As an agnostic, I have to admit it seems only fair to hold co-irreligionists responsible for the crimes of Mao, Lenin, Stalin, Pol Pot, Castro, Ceausescu, etc. --

Re: OT: new camera

2010-10-24 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Jeffery Smith jsmith...@bellsouth.net wrote: On Oct 24, 2010, at 7:48 PM, Sandy Harris wrote: However, it is obviously not a hate crime. Really? Does one have to use that word while committing an armed robbery or punching the recipient? Well, yes, that's

Re: OT: new camera

2010-10-24 Thread P. J. Alling
Learn the joy's of manual focus. Autofocus is for wimps. On 10/23/2010 10:39 AM, Jeffery Smith wrote: I do a significant amount of shooting theater productions, and the shutter lag is a major issue for me, as is sensitivity/dynamic range. The E-5 is significantly improved here, or is it

Re: WTF? was OT: new camera

2010-10-24 Thread drd1135
: WTF? was OT: new camera You're off the hook. God isn't convinced of your existence. Jeffery On Oct 24, 2010, at 7:52 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote: As an agnostic, I have to admit it seems only fair to hold co-irreligionists responsible for the crimes of Mao, Lenin, Stalin, Pol Pot, Castro

Re: WTF? was OT: new camera

2010-10-24 Thread P. J. Alling
...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2010 6:51 PM Subject: Re: WTF? was OT: new camera Alright, I admit it. I've also always had an Olympus on the side as well. It feels so liberating just to say it. On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 7:41 PM, Brendan MacRae

Re: OT: new camera

2010-10-24 Thread P. J. Alling
Political correctness has officially run amuck here. Hate crime? Pulllease Someone's sensibilities being bruised is not a hate crime. Bill Robb, made a truthful statement in as offensive a manor as he could. So what. I've put both Godfrey and Bill on my kill list at different times

Re: WTF? was OT: new camera

2010-10-24 Thread Stan Halpin
Hi, I'm Stan and I once owned an OM-1. I sold it and bought a Minox and a Pentax. And later another Pentax.And then another Pentax. And then another Pentax like the previous Pentax but with a different serial number. And then a 3rd and 4th and 5th Pentax LX. And then . . . On Oct 23, 2010, at

Re: WTF? was OT: new camera

2010-10-24 Thread Brian Walters
On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 22:42 -0500, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: Hi, I'm Stan and I once owned an OM-1. I sold it and bought a Minox and a Pentax. And later another Pentax.And then another Pentax. And then another Pentax like the previous Pentax but with a different serial

Re: OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: frank theriault wrote: On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 9:58 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: I don't filter you, Robb. I simply ignore you. MARK!! Sorry. I won't be able to include this quotation because I

Re: OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Jeffery Smith jsmith...@gmail.com wrote: Well, with that one, I'm out of here. It's been fun, guys, until now. These things flare up for a bit and go away. I hope you stick around - your contributions have been valuable. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a

Re: OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 11:21 AM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: Hey good one liner from the pompous twit faggot. Too bad it is, apparently, not true. Attack his words and ideas? Fine. Attack his sexual preference? Completely out of line. IMHO there's no place for bigotry on this

Re: OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread Mark Roberts
frank theriault wrote: On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: frank theriault wrote: On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 9:58 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: I don't filter you, Robb. I simply ignore you. MARK!! Sorry. I won't be able to include this

Re: OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread Cotty
On 23/10/10, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: IMHO there's no place for bigotry on this list - or anywhere else. I agree totally, and so do my wives. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com

RE: OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread Bob W
IMHO there's no place for bigotry on this list - or anywhere else. I agree totally, and so do my wives. you wouldn't say that if you were a bigot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit

Re: OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread Rob Studdert
On 23 October 2010 23:55, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: On 23/10/10, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: IMHO there's no place for bigotry on this list - or anywhere else. I agree totally, and so do my wives. They should probably just kiss and make up. -- Rob Studdert (Digital 

Re: OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread Dario Bonazza
Cotty wrote: On 23/10/10, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: IMHO there's no place for bigotry on this list - or anywhere else. I agree totally, and so do my wives. kram... err mark! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread Bob Sullivan
AMEN On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 6:31 AM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 11:21 AM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: Hey good one liner from the pompous twit faggot. Too bad it is, apparently, not true. Attack his words and ideas? Fine. Attack his

Re: OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread Jeffery Smith
As naive as it may sound, I bought my Olympus E-1 (my first dSLR) based on its (1) sturdiness [read: not a plastic body], and (2) LACK of a pop-up flash. I had a pz1p fpr a while, and found the pop-up flash to be annoying when I was just trying to grab a shot in lower light conditions and

Re: OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread Adam Maas
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 6:32 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 2:52 PM, DagT li...@thrane.name wrote: ... Equipment often gets in the way of Photography. ... So true. That´s why I concentrate on size, convenience and non-intrusive equipment and how it

Re: OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 10:40 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: A pro grade camera is a camera built to different (higher) standards of durability and robustness. It's designed to be able to take a beating in adverse conditions and extended heavy use. Pentax has never really made

Re: OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 6:00 AM, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: On 23 October 2010 23:55, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: On 23/10/10, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: IMHO there's no place for bigotry on this list - or anywhere else. I agree totally, and so do my

Re: OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread Adam Maas
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: On 21 October 2010 18:43, Jaume Lahuerta jlah...@yahoo.com wrote: Interesting discussion... If Canikon comes out with their own 'Nex'-like...I am afraid that all those buyers will be attracted again by their powerful brands

Re: OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
thank you for your opinion. ;-) On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 7:22 AM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 6:32 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 2:52 PM, DagT li...@thrane.name wrote: ... Equipment often gets in the way of Photography. ...

Re: OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread Jeffery Smith
I do a significant amount of shooting theater productions, and the shutter lag is a major issue for me, as is sensitivity/dynamic range. The E-5 is significantly improved here, or is it simply not a problem with the E-5? The K-x has not been an issue with dynamic range/sensitivity for me, and

Re: OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread Adam Maas
Note that I do consider the E-5 to be an excellent choice for someone who is invested in the 4/3rds system as it marries the E-3's generally excellent body design (and the only good viewfinder in the 4/3rds system) to the greatly improved imaging chain of the PEN's. IMHO it's simply too little,

Re: OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread Adam Maas
I'd have to ask what mode are you in, my experience with the K-x is it does not have significant shutter lag except in LV mode (where the lag is simply awful, LV is almost unusable on the K-x in my experience). It does however have an AF system which struggles in low-light so if you're shooting in

Re: OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread Mark Roberts
Cotty wrote: On 23/10/10, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: IMHO there's no place for bigotry on this list - or anywhere else. I agree totally, and so do my wives. If you hate lots of different groups is that poligotry? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

RE: OT: new camera - shutter lag

2010-10-23 Thread J.C. O'Connell
Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Jeffery Smith Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2010 10:40 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT: new camera I do a significant amount of shooting theater productions, and the shutter lag is a major issue for me

Re: OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread Mark Roberts
Mark Roberts wrote: Cotty wrote: On 23/10/10, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: IMHO there's no place for bigotry on this list - or anywhere else. I agree totally, and so do my wives. If you hate lots of different groups is that poligotry? Excuse me, that should be polygotry,

Re: OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread Jeffery Smith
I shot last month mostly in aperture priority mode to keep the aperture fairly wide (2.5 or so) and increase shutter speed. I did run into some AF focus issues that I thought might be the result of multipoint AF, so I tried to restrict both AF and exposure readings to a center spot. I've got a

Re: OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread William Robb
-- From: frank theriault Subject: Re: OT: new camera IMHO there's no place for bigotry on this list - or anywhere else. Show me where anything in that sentence isn't true Frank? You may not like the choice of terminology, but it doesn't

Re: OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread Steven Desjardins
Who cares? I'm visualizing the wives. On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 6:00 AM, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: On 23 October 2010 23:55, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: On 23/10/10, frank theriault,

Re: OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread Steven Desjardins
No that, Realllybigotry. On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: Cotty wrote: On 23/10/10, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: IMHO there's no place for bigotry on this list - or anywhere else. I agree totally, and so do my wives. If you hate

Re: OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread John Francis
On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 12:00:47AM +1100, Rob Studdert wrote: On 23 October 2010 23:55, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: On 23/10/10, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: IMHO there's no place for bigotry on this list - or anywhere else. I agree totally, and so do my wives. They

Re: OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread paul stenquist
Subject: Re: OT: new camera IMHO there's no place for bigotry on this list - or anywhere else. Show me where anything in that sentence isn't true Frank? You may not like the choice of terminology, but it doesn't indicate bigotry, only contempt, which is not the same thing. William Robb

Re: OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread Steven Desjardins
AM, William Robb wrote: -- From: frank theriault Subject: Re: OT: new camera IMHO there's no place for bigotry on this list - or anywhere else. Show me where anything in that sentence isn't true Frank? You may not like the choice

Re: OT: new camera - shutter lag

2010-10-23 Thread Steven Desjardins
- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Jeffery Smith Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2010 10:40 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT: new camera I do a significant amount of shooting theater productions, and the shutter lag is a major issue for me

RE: OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread Bob W
On 23/10/10, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: IMHO there's no place for bigotry on this list - or anywhere else. I agree totally, and so do my wives. If you hate lots of different groups is that poligotry? Excuse me, that should be polygotry, shouldn't it? or jammygittery

Re: OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 12:41 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Well, it's time for Bill to act like an adult, and it's time for list members to stop excusing his behavior. I've excused myself from observing his behavior. *plonk* -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread William Robb
-- From: paul stenquist Subject: Re: OT: new camera Using the F word to describe a gay male is equivalent to using the N word to describe a person of color. Both indicate intolerance, which is the definition of bigotry. Both are grossly

Re: OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread Bob Sullivan
Isn't that speaking many languages? On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 10:09 AM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: Cotty wrote: On 23/10/10, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: IMHO there's no place for bigotry on this list - or anywhere else. I agree totally, and so

Re: OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread Cotty
On 23/10/10, paul stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed: it's time for Bill to act like an adult, and it's time for list members to stop excusing his behavior. I'd like to be the first to offer a conciliatory hand here and play devil's advocate. It is just possible that Bill was referring to

Re: OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread Cotty
On 23/10/10, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: Perhaps it's time, after a dozen or so years, to say goodbye. Come on Bill - that would mean I will overtake you in longevity here - now that's really gotta hurt ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche

Re: OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread Jeffery Smith
As Yogi Berra once said, If Godfrey doesn't want to talk about equipment, you can't stop him. As for Godfrey being pompous, if you had met him in person, you wouldn't feel that way. Very often the printed word on a forum makes a person appear completely different than their actual demeanor. I

Re: OT: new camera - shutter lag

2010-10-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
From: Jeffery Smith Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2010 10:40 AM I do a significant amount of shooting theater productions, and the shutter lag is a major issue for me, as is sensitivity/dynamic range. The E-5 is significantly improved here, or is it simply not a problem with the E-5? The K-x

Re: OT: new camera - shutter lag

2010-10-23 Thread Jeffery Smith
I'll probably try the K-7 with the 77/1.8 in manual mode for the next production (Bat Boy) as long as their is enough light on the main subject to allow manual focusing. My eyes are not getting better with age. At least this will give me some idea of whether then K-7 is a better body than the

Re: OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread Larry Colen
On Oct 23, 2010, at 7:39 AM, Jeffery Smith wrote: I do a significant amount of shooting theater productions, and the shutter lag is a major issue for me, as is sensitivity/dynamic range. The E-5 is significantly improved here, or is it simply not a problem with the E-5? The K-x has not

Re: OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread Jeffery Smith
Hey Larry, I have to admit that I really avoid manual focusing of late because of the lack of a split prism/split image focusing screen. For me, matte focusing screens were only useful when using a tele that was so slow that half of the split images blacked out. On Nikon SLRs in the 70's, it

Re: OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread Larry Colen
On Oct 23, 2010, at 8:58 AM, William Robb wrote: -- From: frank theriault Subject: Re: OT: new camera IMHO there's no place for bigotry on this list - or anywhere else. Show me where anything in that sentence isn't true Frank? You

Re: OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
A photo from this morning's walk and breakfast with friends. http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1205/5107798395_a5cc7e2b64_o.jpg If It doesn't make sense, it's not true! Olympus E-5 + ZD 11-22/2.8-3.5 ISO 1600 @ f/5.6 @ 1/60 second, 22mm enjoy! -- Godfrey   godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML

Re: OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread Cotty
On 23/10/10, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: A photo from this morning's walk and breakfast with friends. http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1205/5107798395_a5cc7e2b64_o.jpg If It doesn't make sense, it's not true! Olympus E-5 + ZD 11-22/2.8-3.5 ISO 1600 @ f/5.6 @ 1/60 second, 22mm

Re: OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread eckinator
2010/10/23 William Robb war...@gmail.com: *filter off, hand out* Paul, if you want to rein me in, then you also need to rein in people who would control what subjects are acceptable. I doubt that could possibly hurt anyone's feelings for more than a second. My recent lack of activity on

Re: OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread Jeffery Smith
Did you induce the vignetting effect? It's pretty pronounced here. Jeffery L. Smith New Orleans, LA On Oct 23, 2010, at 3:06 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: A photo from this morning's walk and breakfast with friends. http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1205/5107798395_a5cc7e2b64_o.jpg If It

Re: OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: ... Besides, pompous twit faggot? Are you in third grade? I've seen better taunts from 10 year olds. Use some creativity man. Say that Godfrey is such a flaming gasbag that he makes the Hindenburg look like someone farting

Re: OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
thanks Cotty! On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: On 23/10/10, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: A photo from this morning's walk and breakfast with friends. http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1205/5107798395_a5cc7e2b64_o.jpg If It doesn't make sense, it's

Re: OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Yes ... the 11-22 has very very very little corner falloff at f/5.6. The portrait seemed to lack depth without a little vignette. Godfrey On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Jeffery Smith jsmith...@bellsouth.net wrote: Did you induce the vignetting effect? It's pretty pronounced here. Jeffery L.

Re: OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread P N Stenquist
I really like the immediacy of this. When I clicked it open, I was certain that he was going to speak:-). Paul On Oct 23, 2010, at 4:06 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: A photo from this morning's walk and breakfast with friends. http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1205/5107798395_a5cc7e2b64_o.jpg If

Re: OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread Larry Colen
On Oct 23, 2010, at 12:38 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote: Is the Katzeye relatively easy to install on the Pentax? I've never had an issue with screen swapping on Rolleiflexes, but they are big and easy to fool with. The first time you do it, it can take a bit of work, but it's quite easy.

Re: OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread Jeffery Smith
I may look at this sort of thing about 100 times first. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqZCjT-jr1s On Oct 23, 2010, at 4:02 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Oct 23, 2010, at 12:38 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote: Is the Katzeye relatively easy to install on the Pentax? I've never had an issue with

Re: OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Thanks Paul! :-) On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 1:38 PM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I really like the immediacy of this. When I clicked it open, I was certain that he was going to speak:-). Paul On Oct 23, 2010, at 4:06 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: A photo from this morning's walk

Re: OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Lot of people have asked me what the noise at various ISO settings looks like. This might answer: http://www.gdgphoto.com/Olympus_E-5-ISO_check/ -- Godfrey   godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread Steven Desjardins
I certainly don't want to see Bill go away. I can deal just fine with his directness/bluntness, etc., and many times it adds to a discussion. As I said, the only problem here was the use of the word faggot. It was an inappropriate choice of word and Paul's comparison to the use of nigger: was

WTF? was OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread Brendan MacRae
Well, I know it's been a while since I've posted anything but holy crap! That was one helluva thread. I was, in turns, enlightened, bemused, shocked, disgusted, surprised, repulsed, encouraged, worried, and finally a bit relieved. But really, Godfrey, this lifestyle choice of yours, it can be,

Re: WTF? was OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread Steven Desjardins
Alright, I admit it. I've also always had an Olympus on the side as well. It feels so liberating just to say it. On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 7:41 PM, Brendan MacRae brendanmacrae1...@yahoo.com wrote: Well, I know it's been a while since I've posted anything but holy crap! That was one helluva

Re: WTF? was OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread Jeffery Smith
Ever since I was in high school, I secretly knew I preferred Pentax. I attempted to deny it by using a Mamiya 500TL, and I even tried Nikons for a couple of years, but it just didn't work out. Jeffery On Oct 23, 2010, at 6:51 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: Alright, I admit it. I've also

Re: WTF? was OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread Rob Studdert
On 24 October 2010 10:51, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: Alright, I admit it.  I've also always had an Olympus on the side as well.  It feels so liberating just to say it. I had a little affair with an E-10 whilst Pentax was floundering about in the digital wasteland in early on,

Re: OT: new camera - shutter lag

2010-10-23 Thread Steven Desjardins
The Lumix 20 1.7 is also very good, but considerably wider. One feature of recent EVF cameras is that the use of MF switches the LCD to maximum magnification. It's very useful in situations where things aren't moving too quickly and you can just use a small portion of the viewfinder to compose

Re: OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread paul stenquist
On Oct 23, 2010, at 7:35 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: I certainly don't want to see Bill go away. I can deal just fine with his directness/bluntness, etc., and many times it adds to a discussion. I don't want to see him go away either. But his language isn't just direct, it's frequently

Re: WTF? was OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread paul stenquist
On Oct 23, 2010, at 7:51 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: Alright, I admit it. I've also always had an Olympus on the side as well. It feels so liberating just to say it. I'm happy to say that i've never had an Olympus. Never even considered it. However, I should admit that I have owned a

Re: WTF? was OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread Steven Desjardins
The E-10 was a satyrical delight, photographically speaking. It was such a solid camera and a pleasure to use. I always liked the images as well, amazing given that is was 4 MP On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 8:04 PM, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: On 24 October 2010 10:51, Steven

Re: WTF? was OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread Ken Waller
Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com Subject: Re: WTF? was OT: new camera Alright, I admit it. I've also always had an Olympus on the side as well. It feels so liberating just to say

Re: WTF? was OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread Rob Studdert
On 24 October 2010 11:17, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I'm happy to say that i've never had an Olympus. Never even considered it. However, I should admit that I have owned a Nikon and a Canon. The Canon was just a PS -- kind of a one night thing. And the Nikon, well, that

Re: WTF? was OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread Rob Studdert
On 24 October 2010 11:20, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: The E-10 was a satyrical delight, photographically speaking.  It was such a solid camera and a pleasure to use.  I always liked the images as well, amazing given that is was 4 MP When they get cheap enough I think I'll buy a

Re: WTF? was OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread Brendan MacRae
- Original Message From: Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sat, October 23, 2010 5:22:28 PM Subject: Re: WTF? was OT: new camera On 24 October 2010 11:17, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I'm happy to say

Re: WTF? was OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread Larry Colen
On Oct 23, 2010, at 4:51 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: Alright, I admit it. I've also always had an Olympus on the side as well. It feels so liberating just to say it. On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 7:41 PM, Brendan MacRae brendanmacrae1...@yahoo.com wrote: Well, I know it's been a while since

Re: WTF? was OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread Rob Studdert
On 24 October 2010 11:33, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: What can I say, I'm a fiscally constrained gear slut. If I had the money all of my camera bags would be filled with whatever gear looked interesting, no matter who made it. Me too I guess (excepting Canon DSLRs of course ;-) --

Re: WTF? was OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread Steven Desjardins
Subject: Re: WTF? was OT: new camera On 24 October 2010 11:17, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net  wrote: I'm happy to say that i've never had an Olympus. Never even  considered it. However, I should admit that I have owned a Nikon and a Canon.  The Canon was just a PS -- kind of a one

Re: WTF? was OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread Rob Studdert
On 24 October 2010 11:35, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: My E-10 is still in use at WL for shooting web images. Here is one of my first images shot with the E-10, it was a revelation compared to the procession of crap that came before: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9304908/PB241295.jpg

Re: OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread Steven Desjardins
I'm never happy to see anyone just go away. Tolerance extends in many directions. We're never stronger for losing someone, even if that strength is the result of patience on our part. Maybe I'm sensitive to this because I can have quite a bad temper and have said things on occasion that I

Re: OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread Larry Colen
On Oct 23, 2010, at 6:03 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: I'm never happy to see anyone just go away. Tolerance extends in many directions. We're never stronger for losing someone, even if that strength is the result of patience on our part. Maybe I'm sensitive to this because I can have

Re: OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread paul stenquist
On Oct 23, 2010, at 9:08 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Oct 23, 2010, at 6:03 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: I'm never happy to see anyone just go away. Tolerance extends in many directions. We're never stronger for losing someone, even if that strength is the result of patience on our part.

Re: OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread Jeffery Smith
It's easy to get angry on forums, but some posts go beyond anger. I've lost my cool on forums before, and regretted it. I've apologized both onlist and offlist (simultaneously) when I've overstepped civility. It's a win-win resolution. Apologies were always accepted. It doesn't hurt, and it

Re: WTF? was OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread Brian Walters
On Sat, 23 Oct 2010 19:51 -0400, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: Alright, I admit it. I've also always had an Olympus on the side as well. It feels so liberating just to say it. Well, since this is turning into a 'true confessions' thread, I admit to owning no less than 10

Re: WTF? was OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread Steven Desjardins
Hi, I'm Steve and I own an Olympus. On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 10:56 PM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote: On Sat, 23 Oct 2010 19:51 -0400, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: Alright, I admit it.  I've also always had an Olympus on the side as well.  It feels so liberating just

Re: WTF? was OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread Brian Walters
On Sat, 23 Oct 2010 22:59 -0400, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm Steve and I own an Olympus. Whenever you feel the urge, we're here for you, man. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/

Re: WTF? was OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread Christine Aguila
Too clever! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Brendan MacRae brendanmacrae1...@yahoo.com To: pdml pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2010 6:41 PM Subject: WTF? was OT: new camera Well, I know it's been a while since I've posted anything but holy crap

Re: WTF? was OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread Christine Aguila
? was OT: new camera Alright, I admit it. I've also always had an Olympus on the side as well. It feels so liberating just to say it. On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 7:41 PM, Brendan MacRae brendanmacrae1...@yahoo.com wrote: Well, I know it's been a while since I've posted anything but holy crap

Re: OT: new camera

2010-10-23 Thread Christine Aguila
Very nice, Godfrey. Enjoy I did. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2010 3:06 PM Subject: Re: OT: new camera A photo from this morning's walk and breakfast

Re: OT: new camera ... ISO 3200 sample

2010-10-22 Thread Larry Colen
On Oct 21, 2010, at 9:50 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: A test snap of a friend ... Olympus E-5, Summilux-D 25mm f/1.4 ASPH ISO 3200 @ f/4 @ 1/40 second. Very impressive for ISO 3200 out of a small sensor. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: OT: new camera ... ISO 3200 sample

2010-10-22 Thread Steven Desjardins
Really nice for 3200. On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 3:02 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Oct 21, 2010, at 9:50 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: A test snap of a friend ... Olympus E-5, Summilux-D 25mm f/1.4 ASPH ISO 3200 @ f/4 @ 1/40 second. Very impressive for ISO 3200 out of a small

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