Re: Hi, Aaron! WAS Re: question about chromes

2006-02-07 Thread E.R.N. Reed
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/6/2006 2:10:13 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I unsubscribed when I went on my honeymoon in June '02 and when I came back I found that I had this extra hour every day that I didn't have before... What's yer point? -fr

Re: Hi, Aaron! WAS Re: question about chromes

2006-02-07 Thread Aaron Reynolds
On Feb 7, 2006, at 8:59 AM, frank theriault wrote: Yeah, I read fast. Either that or delete liberally. Yes, that too. -Aaron

Re: Hi, Aaron! WAS Re: question about chromes

2006-02-07 Thread frank theriault
On 2/7/06, Aaron Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yeah, I read fast. Either that or delete liberally. -frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: Hi, Aaron! WAS Re: question about chromes

2006-02-07 Thread Aaron Reynolds
On Feb 7, 2006, at 1:41 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Only an hour?!? Yeah, I read fast. -Aaron

Re: Hi, Aaron! WAS Re: question about chromes

2006-02-06 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/6/2006 2:10:13 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I unsubscribed when I went on my honeymoon in June '02 and when I came back I found that I had this extra hour every day that I didn't have before... What's yer point? -frank === Only an hour?!? Mar

Re: Hi, Aaron! WAS Re: question about chromes

2006-02-06 Thread Aaron Reynolds
Heh, that for three years I had an extra hour every day. -Aaron -Original Message- From: frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subj: Re: Hi, Aaron! WAS Re: question about chromes Date: Mon Feb 6, 2006 5:08 pm Size: 306 bytes To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net On 2/5/06, Aaron Re

Re: misc lighting - no longer question about chromes

2006-02-06 Thread Aaron Reynolds
t; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subj: Re: misc lighting - no longer question about chromes Date: Mon Feb 6, 2006 1:05 pm Size: 385 bytes To: - Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" Subject: Re: misc lighting - no longer question about chromes > Any light that you h

Re: question about chromes

2006-02-06 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Mark Roberts wrote: > > Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >My father was an artist who worked in oils. He frequently had to send > >in slides for show entries. Generally, the galleries didn't seem to be > >too fussy about the quality of the chromes. > > My experience has been the sam

Re: question about chromes

2006-02-06 Thread Mark Roberts
Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >My father was an artist who worked in oils. He frequently had to send >in slides for show entries. Generally, the galleries didn't seem to be >too fussy about the quality of the chromes. My experience has been the same. In fact, since a surprising numb

Re: Hi, Aaron! WAS Re: question about chromes

2006-02-06 Thread frank theriault
On 2/5/06, Aaron Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I unsubscribed when I went on my honeymoon in June '02 and when I came back I > found that I had this extra hour every day that I didn't have before... What's yer point? -frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresso

Re: question about chromes

2006-02-06 Thread Ann Sanfedele
n lights at thos angles and a polarizer on the camera. It gave me new respect for people who do that stuff for a living - the purely technical aspect of shooting. It was hard work and an interesting tactical exercise. As to the original question about chromes - the lab I plan to use felt Provia

Re: misc lighting - no longer question about chromes

2006-02-06 Thread pnstenquist
I admit to similar misrepresentations. I shot some tools on a workbench for stock. I used flash units in my studio but simulated the shadows that would have resulted from light through a paned window. Paul -- Original message -- From: Aaron Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTE

Re: misc lighting - no longer question about chromes

2006-02-06 Thread pnstenquist
I agree. There are plenty of ways to make flash lighting diffuse, but it's not needed for a job like this where perfectly flat lighting is ideal and shutter speed isn't a factor. Paul -- Original message -- From: Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Bob Shell wrote

Re: misc lighting - no longer question about chromes

2006-02-06 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" Subject: Re: misc lighting - no longer question about chromes Any light that you have is available ... you must mean natural light. How natural are four foot florescent tubes? Available light is that which is available withou

Re: misc lighting - no longer question about chromes

2006-02-06 Thread DagT
Natural light, as opposed to unnatural light, supernatural light, invisible light, coke light, light beer, light weight etc. DagT PS: Sorry .-) Den 6. feb. 2006 kl. 18.33 skrev Shel Belinkoff: Any light that you have is available ... you must mean natural light. Shel [Original Messag

Re: misc lighting - no longer question about chromes

2006-02-06 Thread DagT
Den 6. feb. 2006 kl. 18.16 skrev Ann Sanfedele: Bob Shell wrote: On Feb 5, 2006, at 11:13 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Yes, don't even think about using flash. You'll have a white spot in the middle of a painting. Paul You can use flash in a pinch if the room has a white ceiling. Bounce the

Re: misc lighting - no longer question about chromes

2006-02-06 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > Any light that you have is available ... you must mean natural light. > > Shel Um, no, Shel- I do mean available light as opposed to flash. Forgot who wrote it, but I picked up the term from a book called "Shooting with Avaiable light" It was used pretty much to mean

Re: misc lighting - no longer question about chromes

2006-02-06 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Any light that you have is available ... you must mean natural light. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Aaron Reynolds > I've been known to spend a lot of time faking available light. Frank > Theriault and Dave "too bald" Chang-Sang saw it firsthand at Christmas.

Re: misc lighting - no longer question about chromes

2006-02-06 Thread Aaron Reynolds
On Feb 6, 2006, at 12:16 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: I belong to the society for prevention of flash photography - only to be used in extreme circumstances I've been known to spend a lot of time faking available light. Frank Theriault and Dave "too bald" Chang-Sang saw it firsthand at Christmas

Re: misc lighting - no longer question about chromes

2006-02-06 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Bob Shell wrote: > > On Feb 5, 2006, at 11:13 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > > > Yes, don't even think about using flash. You'll have a white spot > > in the middle of a painting. > > Paul > > You can use flash in a pinch if the room has a white ceiling. Bounce > the flash off the ceiling and it w

Re: question about chromes

2006-02-06 Thread Powell Hargrave
I have shot hundreds of paintings using two flashes at 45 degrees with daylight slide film. Oils, acrylics, and glazed prints and water colours. It works very well thank you. Working hand held is much faster than using a tripod. The flash exposure is less than 1/1000 sec. and the images are very

Re: question about chromes

2006-02-06 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/5/2006 10:15:43 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yup - I agree - and I put the smiley in but fully intended to ask them. Duggal is a major custom processing place in NYC and Spectra is a later comer - I'll be speaking to both of them. ann === They wil

Re: question about chromes

2006-02-06 Thread Bob Shell
On Feb 5, 2006, at 11:13 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Yes, don't even think about using flash. You'll have a white spot in the middle of a painting. Paul You can use flash in a pinch if the room has a white ceiling. Bounce the flash off the ceiling and it will resemble diffuse sunlight.

Re: question about chromes

2006-02-06 Thread Bob Shell
On Feb 5, 2006, at 10:47 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: I recently sold an 80 slide carousel to an artist who was submitting work to schools togo back for a masters. They wanted not only slides, but for her to send or bringthem IN a carousel. Quite specifically, those that fit on the Kodak Carouse

Re: question about chromes

2006-02-05 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Paul Stenquist wrote: > > Yes, don't even think about using flash. You'll have a white spot in > the middle of a painting. > Paul I wouldn't dream of it. I never even owned a flash (except a macro ring light) until a few years ago. ann available light are us san > On Feb 5, 2006, at 10:41 P

Re: question about chromes

2006-02-05 Thread Ann Sanfedele
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Cant have Theraultian blur > for artwork :) > > I cana' hold on any longer cap'n. She''ll blow.:-0 > > Dave God, your irrepressable, you wag! :) but it's true - why do you think none of you saw that shot of Mark on the mountain in my GFM nostalgia gallery??? :)

Re: question about chromes

2006-02-05 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Duggal is a major custom processing place in NYC and Spectra is a later comer - I'll be speaking to both of them. ann > > -Original Message- > > From: Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subj: Re: question about chromes > Date: Sun Feb 5, 2006 4:02 pm > Siz

Re: question about chromes

2006-02-05 Thread Paul Stenquist
Yes, don't even think about using flash. You'll have a white spot in the middle of a painting. Paul On Feb 5, 2006, at 10:41 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: Powell Hargrave wrote: These aren't being shot for reproduction as far as I know, just for galleries to review his work. It may be that absolu

Re: question about chromes

2006-02-05 Thread Powell Hargrave
> >I have a portable level to use on the camera and the arwork >itself. once ive set up for the >first painting, nothing will change for all that are the >same size. If they are different sizes it can be quite fiddley getting tripod and easel aligned properly for each slide. With digital a bit

Re: question about chromes

2006-02-05 Thread brooksdj
Cant have Theraultian blur > for artwork :) I cana' hold on any longer cap'n. She''ll blow.:-0 Dave > > ann > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Powell Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Digital Imaging http://members.shaw.ca/hargravep > > Nanai

Re: question about chromes

2006-02-05 Thread Aaron Reynolds
While you say that jokingly, it's always a great idea to ask what your lab is most comfortable handling. It's the best way to ensure strong results. -Aaron -Original Message- From: Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subj: Re: question about chromes Date: Sun Feb 5, 2

Re: question about chromes

2006-02-05 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Juey Chong Ong wrote: > > Ann, it's relatively inexpensive to rent an old Hasselblad to do > larger images but I think your impression is correct. It probably > involves people at the gallery gathering around a 35mm projector to > review the slides. In which case, color accuracy might not matter >

Re: question about chromes

2006-02-05 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Jack Davis wrote: > > Not that hasn't been considered, but be certain to do a three exposure > 'braket' of each. > > Jack > I wouldn't think of doing it any other way, Jack. ann > --- Carlos Royo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Ann Sanfedele wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>Close, but not quite

Re: question about chromes

2006-02-05 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Powell Hargrave wrote: > > >These aren't being shot for reproduction as far as I know, > >just for galleries > >to review his work. It may be that absolutely precise color > >is not going to swing > >the viewers one way or the other - but I'd certainly like to > >get as close as possible to > >rea

Re: Hi, Aaron! WAS Re: question about chromes

2006-02-05 Thread Aaron Reynolds
I unsubscribed when I went on my honeymoon in June '02 and when I came back I found that I had this extra hour every day that I didn't have before... -Aaron -Original Message- From: "E.R.N. Reed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subj: Hi, Aaron! WAS Re: question abou

Re: question about chromes

2006-02-05 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Paul Stenquist wrote: > > My father was an artist who worked in oils. He frequently had to send > in slides for show entries. Generally, the galleries didn't seem to be > too fussy about the quality of the chromes. I shot some for him once in > a while. I generally used outdoor light diffused thro

Re: Hi, Aaron! WAS Re: question about chromes

2006-02-05 Thread brooksdj
> Aaron Reynolds wrote: > > > > > On Feb 5, 2006, at 1:02 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >>Oh Oh Ann. You've woken the Brother hood up.:-) > >> > >> Hey Aaron. > > > > > > No one had said anything about not being able to hand-hold a Pentax 67 > > la

Re: question about chromes

2006-02-05 Thread Juey Chong Ong
Ann, it's relatively inexpensive to rent an old Hasselblad to do larger images but I think your impression is correct. It probably involves people at the gallery gathering around a 35mm projector to review the slides. In which case, color accuracy might not matter that much either, dependin

Re: question about chromes

2006-02-05 Thread Jack Davis
Not that hasn't been considered, but be certain to do a three exposure 'braket' of each. Jack --- Carlos Royo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ann Sanfedele wrote: > > > > > >>Close, but not quite as neutral, is Fuji Astia 100. All of the > other > >>Fuji chrome films exaggerate color. > >> > >

Re: question about chromes

2006-02-05 Thread Powell Hargrave
>These aren't being shot for reproduction as far as I know, >just for galleries >to review his work. It may be that absolutely precise color >is not going to swing >the viewers one way or the other - but I'd certainly like to >get as close as possible to >reality. > > ann I'm always amazed how ba

Re: question about chromes

2006-02-05 Thread Carlos Royo
Ann Sanfedele wrote: Close, but not quite as neutral, is Fuji Astia 100. All of the other Fuji chrome films exaggerate color. Bob I don't know that one at all -- Marnie suggested PRovia and someone else did... These aren't being shot for reproduction as far as I know, just for galleries

Re: question about chromes

2006-02-05 Thread Paul Stenquist
My father was an artist who worked in oils. He frequently had to send in slides for show entries. Generally, the galleries didn't seem to be too fussy about the quality of the chromes. I shot some for him once in a while. I generally used outdoor light diffused through a window. A room with whi

Re: question about chromes

2006-02-05 Thread Ann Sanfedele
mike wilson wrote: > > Ann Sanfedele wrote: > > > mike wilson wrote: > > > >>Ann Sanfedele wrote: > >> > >> > >>>HI gang, > >>>I've hardly been here - though didn't actually unsub - > >>>but it looks like I might have a job where I will need to > >>>shoot chromes > >>>instead of digital - draggin

Re: question about chromes

2006-02-05 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Bob Shell wrote: > > On Feb 5, 2006, at 12:07 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: > > > I don't know that one at all -- Marnie suggested PRovia and > > someone else did... > > These aren't being shot for reproduction as far as I know, > > just for galleries > > to review his work. It may be that absolutely

Re: question about chromes

2006-02-05 Thread Ann Sanfedele
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > As recently as May, Fuji was still > producing Astia 100f, which I preferred > to Provia > because it was a little snappier and also much less sensitive to the ph of > the water used > for developing it, which made Provia a r

Hi, Aaron! WAS Re: question about chromes

2006-02-05 Thread E.R.N. Reed
Aaron Reynolds wrote: On Feb 5, 2006, at 1:02 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh Oh Ann. You've woken the Brother hood up.:-) Hey Aaron. No one had said anything about not being able to hand-hold a Pentax 67 lately, so I figured I wasn't needed. -Aaron Good to see you again. I think

Re: question about chromes

2006-02-05 Thread mike wilson
Ann Sanfedele wrote: mike wilson wrote: Ann Sanfedele wrote: HI gang, I've hardly been here - though didn't actually unsub - but it looks like I might have a job where I will need to shoot chromes instead of digital - dragging out the ole LX -- But it has been a few years since I shot slid

Re: question about chromes

2006-02-05 Thread Bob Shell
On Feb 5, 2006, at 12:07 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: I don't know that one at all -- Marnie suggested PRovia and someone else did... These aren't being shot for reproduction as far as I know, just for galleries to review his work. It may be that absolutely precise color is not going to swing the v

Re: question about chromes

2006-02-05 Thread Aaron Reynolds
On Feb 5, 2006, at 1:02 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh Oh Ann. You've woken the Brother hood up.:-) Hey Aaron. No one had said anything about not being able to hand-hold a Pentax 67 lately, so I figured I wasn't needed. -Aaron

Re: question about chromes

2006-02-05 Thread brooksdj
> As recently as May, Fuji was still producing Astia 100f, which I preferred to Provia because it was a little snappier and also much less sensitive to the ph of the water used for developing it, which made Provia a real pain in the butt to develop. If yo

Re: question about chromes

2006-02-05 Thread Jack Davis
Recommend Fuji Astia 100 or Provia f100. Astia slightly finer grain (finest of all slide films, per Fuji) and Provia marginally more saturated. Jack --- Tom Reese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Since it's artwork, I assume that you're looking for accurate color > reproduction. My favorite chrome

Re: question about chromes

2006-02-05 Thread Aaron Reynolds
As recently as May, Fuji was still producing Astia 100f, which I preferred to Provia because it was a little snappier and also much less sensitive to the ph of the water used for developing it, which made Provia a real pain in the butt to develop. If your local lab has blue/magenta issues with

Re: question about chromes

2006-02-05 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Bob Shell wrote: > > > You want the most neutral and accurate rendering. None of the > Ektachromes will give you that. > > In my testing the most neutral and accurate E-6 film was the recently > discontinued Agfachrome RSX 100. There may still be dealers with > stock, though. > I think I'll p

Re: question about chromes

2006-02-05 Thread Ann Sanfedele
mike wilson wrote: > > Ann Sanfedele wrote: > > > HI gang, > > I've hardly been here - though didn't actually unsub - > > but it looks like I might have a job where I will need to > > shoot chromes > > instead of digital - dragging out the ole LX -- > > > > But it has been a few years since I sho

Re: question about chromes

2006-02-05 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Gautam Sarup wrote: > > Ann, > > My favourite after trying out a few is Kodachrome 64. > Takes about 2 weeks for processing though. > > Cheers, > Gautam Certainly was mine - but forget that - finding a place with k14 processing ... can't do it. a > > On 2/4/06, Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: question about chromes

2006-02-05 Thread mike wilson
Ann Sanfedele wrote: HI gang, I've hardly been here - though didn't actually unsub - but it looks like I might have a job where I will need to shoot chromes instead of digital - dragging out the ole LX -- But it has been a few years since I shot slides and I'd like some opinions on Elitechrome

Re: question about chromes

2006-02-05 Thread brooksdj
> In a message dated 2/5/2006 5:28:29 AM Pacific Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >anyone have a favorite that is still being made for this > >kind of stuff? > > I go with Provia 100F > > > -- > Mark Roberts > == > Yeah. > > Marnie

Re: question about chromes

2006-02-05 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/5/2006 5:28:29 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >anyone have a favorite that is still being made for this >kind of stuff? I go with Provia 100F -- Mark Roberts == Yeah. Marnie aka Doe

Re: question about chromes

2006-02-05 Thread Bob Shell
Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: HI gang, I've hardly been here - though didn't actually unsub - but it looks like I might have a job where I will need to shoot chromes instead of digital - dragging out the ole LX -- But it has been a few years since I shot slides and I'd like some opi

Re: question about chromes

2006-02-05 Thread Mark Roberts
Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >HI gang, >I've hardly been here - though didn't actually unsub - >but it looks like I might have a job where I will need to >shoot chromes instead of digital - dragging out the ole LX -- > >But it has been a few years since I shot slides and I'd like >some

Re: question about chromes

2006-02-05 Thread Tom Reese
Since it's artwork, I assume that you're looking for accurate color reproduction. My favorite chrome is the Elite Extra Color but it's not the right film for your job. I too think Kodachrome might be the right choice but processing is a pain. You might also consider E100G: http://www.kodak.com

Re: question about chromes

2006-02-04 Thread Gautam Sarup
Ann, My favourite after trying out a few is Kodachrome 64. Takes about 2 weeks for processing though. Cheers, Gautam On 2/4/06, Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > HI gang, > I've hardly been here - though didn't actually unsub - > but it looks like I might have a job where I will need to

question about chromes

2006-02-04 Thread Ann Sanfedele
HI gang, I've hardly been here - though didn't actually unsub - but it looks like I might have a job where I will need to shoot chromes instead of digital - dragging out the ole LX -- But it has been a few years since I shot slides and I'd like some opinions on Elitechrome for photoing artwork...