RE: wedding photography...ugh!

2004-01-08 Thread David Madsen
I think this is the longest thread I have seen since I joined this group, but I'm gonna comment anyway. Back when I used to play in a band we had a saying we would repeat before every show, "Play it the way we rehearsed it." It means that people who knew our music came to hear our music, not to h

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2004-01-08 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Mark Roberts wrote: > > Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>> >Is there anything in the world that has been the subject > >>> of photography > >>> >*more* than weddings? > >>> > >>> Houses for sale? > > > >> School photos. > > > >bare-bottomed ladies HAve you seen Calendar Girls yet?? :) >

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2004-01-08 Thread Mark Roberts
wendy beard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >At 06:59 PM 07/01/2004 -0500, Shel wrote: > >>One local lab here says cats and babies are what they see the most of ... year >>after year. > >Whenever I used to go into my local photoprocessing place, someone always >used to ask "More dog pictures?". My lo

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2004-01-07 Thread graywolf
No, it is sweet revenge for his smart arse comment on my spelling mistake a just a few messages back. HAR! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Len: is this a clever play on words, or a Freudian slip? "I guess men need to *hoot* nudes of their wives" tee hee Quoting Len Paris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I

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2004-01-07 Thread wendy beard
At 06:59 PM 07/01/2004 -0500, Shel wrote: One local lab here says cats and babies are what they see the most of ... year after year. Whenever I used to go into my local photoprocessing place, someone always used to ask "More dog pictures?". Wendy Beard, Ottawa, Canada http://www.beard-redfern.co

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2004-01-07 Thread Shel Belinkoff
One local lab here says cats and babies are what they see the most of ... year after year. > > > >Is there anything in the world that has been the subject of photography > > >*more* than weddings?

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2004-01-07 Thread ernreed2
> On 7/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: > > >Is there anything in the world that has been the subject of photography > >*more* than weddings? > > Houses for sale? (said Cotty) Babies, say I. Many people have more babies than they do weddings.

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2004-01-07 Thread Tanya Mayer Photography
Mark, I TOTALLY agree - cheese, cheese, cheesy... That's all I can say about them... tan. - Original Message - From: "Mark Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 11:31 PM Subject: Re: wedding photography...u

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2004-01-07 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >Is there anything in the world that has been the subject >>> of photography >>> >*more* than weddings? >>> >>> Houses for sale? > >> School photos. > >bare-bottomed ladies I think this last suggestion comes closest! ...but considering how many photos are t

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2004-01-07 Thread Amita Guha
> > >Is there anything in the world that has been the subject > > of photography > > >*more* than weddings? Babies. And cats. :)

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2004-01-07 Thread Bob W
>> >> >Is there anything in the world that has been the subject >> of photography >> >*more* than weddings? >> >> Houses for sale? > School photos. bare-bottomed ladies

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2004-01-07 Thread tom
> -Original Message- > From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > On 7/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: > > >Is there anything in the world that has been the subject > of photography > >*more* than weddings? > > Houses for sale? School photos. tv

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2004-01-07 Thread Cotty
On 7/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >Is there anything in the world that has been the subject of photography >*more* than weddings? Houses for sale? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free

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2004-01-07 Thread graywolf
al Message- From: graywolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 10:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: wedding photography...ugh! Not to mention you get exactly the same thing from all the guys and gals who have taken his seminars. When you hire Monte Zucker, what you

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2004-01-07 Thread b_rubenstein
http://www.montezucker.com/portfolio.html There is a link on Monte's site to Joe Zeltsman, which doesn't work, but this one does: http://web.archive.org/web/20020606223814/http://www.zuga.net/freelessons/port rait.shtml#Joe%20Zeltsman Everything you wanted to know about how to take pictures that

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2004-01-07 Thread Leonard Paris
That's a different career field. Len --- * There's no place like 127.0.0.1 BTW, I thought the best in life was "To crush your enemies. To see them driven before you. To hear the lamentation of their women." -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com __

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2004-01-07 Thread Leonard Paris
ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: wedding photography...ugh! Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2004 09:46:41 -0800 What we see of his work is what he wants us to see. Do we know of what his more personal portfolio is like? Leonard Paris wrote: > If the best

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2004-01-07 Thread Malcolm Smith
J. C. O'Connell wrote: > Something just occurred to me. With today's extremely high > divorce rate, does most of the photographer's work end up in > a dumpster sooner or later? Kind of a shame huh? One of my school friends had a marriage that only lasted a year; came back to find half the hous

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2004-01-07 Thread Jeff Jonsson
Well, I know for sure it's not "To Ride the open steppe, feel the wind in your face, and have a falcon at your wrist." -Original Message- From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 10:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: wedding ph

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2004-01-07 Thread Shel Belinkoff
What we see of his work is what he wants us to see. Do we know of what his more personal portfolio is like? Leonard Paris wrote: > If the best life lies in being able to do something you enjoy, and make a > living at it, then I think Monte is doing pretty well. Whether we approve > of his appr

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2004-01-07 Thread Mark Roberts
"Leonard Paris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >If the best life lies in being able to do something you enjoy, and make a >living at it, then I think Monte is doing pretty well. Whether we approve >of his approach and style or not. It's just so easy to criticize successful >people, when we know w

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2004-01-07 Thread Leonard Paris
If the best life lies in being able to do something you enjoy, and make a living at it, then I think Monte is doing pretty well. Whether we approve of his approach and style or not. It's just so easy to criticize successful people, when we know we can shoot better than they can. Len --- * The

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2004-01-07 Thread tom
> -Original Message- > From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Most wedding photographers have a checklist of shots that > need to be gotten. > They start at number one, and work their way down the list. > Like Mr. Rubenstein said, the customer knows what a wedding > album should

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2004-01-07 Thread J. C. O'Connell
EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jcoconnell.com -Original Message- From: graywolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 10:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: wedding photography...ugh! Not to

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2004-01-07 Thread graywolf
Not to mention you get exactly the same thing from all the guys and gals who have taken his seminars. When you hire Monte Zucker, what you get is Monte Zucker himself, or one of his employees. Not some kind of special available nowhere else photography. He has just carried name brand recognision

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2004-01-07 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hi, > >> I'd just like to take this opportunity to say that Monte Zucker's photos >> make me positively gag. > >too much sugar! Yep, and his writing about his photography is even worse. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com

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2004-01-07 Thread Bob W
Hi, > I'd just like to take this opportunity to say that Monte Zucker's photos > make me positively gag. too much sugar! -- Cheers, Bob

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2004-01-07 Thread Mark Roberts
"Len Paris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Few of us can be Monte Zucker or Steve Sint. I'd just like to take this opportunity to say that Monte Zucker's photos make me positively gag. I realize that he's very good at what he does but, man, it's like fingernails on a blackboard to me! Whew! I feel

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2004-01-07 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >see myth #6: >http://www.phototechmag.com/previous-articles/apr-myths.htm Is there anything in the world that has been the subject of photography *more* than weddings? Given the number photographs made by the enormous number people who have been doing it over the

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2004-01-07 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! It just occurred to me that the reasonable way to produce *original* wedding photo stuff could probably be shooting on weddings of your friends/relatives/fellow photogs. But such thing would have to be agreed upon in advance. Normally, as I remember myself getting married , I wanted my we

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2004-01-06 Thread Tanya Mayer Photography
Doug said: "> When I wrote that, I was not writing specifically about wedding > photography. It crossed my mind that I should write something to > indicate I meant Tanya's work on the whole, but as I'm easily > distracted, the thought didn't stay in my head too long." Actually, I suspected that y

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2004-01-06 Thread Doug Brewer
On Tuesday, January 6, 2004, at 03:37 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree. I recall Doug Brewer recently telling Tanya that, although she was talented, many of her shots looked like recycled versions of other people's ideas. "Perhaps that is true", I said to myself, "but I have seldom seen

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2004-01-06 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: wedding photography...ugh! > I agree. I recall Doug Brewer recently telling Tanya that, although she was > talented, many of her shots looked like recycled versions of other people's > ideas. "Perh

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2004-01-06 Thread Bob W
Hi, see myth #6: http://www.phototechmag.com/previous-articles/apr-myths.htm -- Cheers, Bob Tuesday, January 6, 2004, 10:14:29 PM, you wrote: > Bucky noted: > "I recall Doug Brewer recently telling Tanya that, although she was > talented, many of her shots looked like recycled versions of

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2004-01-06 Thread Tanya Mayer Photography
Bucky noted: "I recall Doug Brewer recently telling Tanya that, although she was talented, many of her shots looked like recycled versions of other people's ideas." Bucky, actually, I totally agreed with Doug on that one, and I constantly toy with and struggle to attempt to come up with original

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2004-01-06 Thread tom
> -Original Message- > From: Frits Wüthrich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > On Tue, 2004-01-06 at 18:55, tom wrote: > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Tom Reese [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > I quit doing them eventually. I couldn't take wearing the > > > jacket in th

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2004-01-06 Thread Tanya Mayer Photography
Bob admitted: "> Hi, > > I crashed a wedding a few years ago in Transylvania. I'd spent the day > in a nearby village photographing a funeral, and getting very, very drunk > on the local moonshine. Back at my hotel I stumbled, half blind, into a > wedding and started photographing the dancing. Some

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2004-01-06 Thread Tanya Mayer Photography
Tom Reese said:" > The wedding photography thread got me thinking about my experiences... > > I wanted to shoot some portraits of a bride and groom and couldn't find the > groom. He was outside behind the building smoking dope with the best man. By > the end of the reception he was stoned out of h

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2004-01-06 Thread Amita Guha
> I think that, considering the various forces and demands > tugging at the wedding > shooter from the sundry directions, obtaining good results, > let alone great or > original results, is a respectable feat. I think, as a former consumer, that they key to obtaining great wedding photos is to

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2004-01-06 Thread Frits Wüthrich
On Tue, 2004-01-06 at 18:55, tom wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: Tom Reese [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > I quit doing them eventually. I couldn't take wearing the > > jacket in the hot > > weather (summer weddings suck IMO), the neckties, the > > drunks and all the > > other

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2004-01-06 Thread tom
> -Original Message- > From: Tom Reese [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > I quit doing them eventually. I couldn't take wearing the > jacket in the hot > weather (summer weddings suck IMO), the neckties, the > drunks and all the > other aggravation. I wish I could just shoot the B& G > portrai

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2004-01-06 Thread Tom Reese
The wedding photography thread got me thinking about my experiences... I wanted to shoot some portraits of a bride and groom and couldn't find the groom. He was outside behind the building smoking dope with the best man. By the end of the reception he was stoned out of his mind and trying to give