oh and btw,
phi spiral abduction is for *everybody*...or at least for *all who
investigate*.
"Only everybody can know the truth." ~Goethe
"The opinion which is fated to be ultimately agreed to by all who
investigate, is what we mean by the truth. and the object represented in
this opinion is
:)
Edwina,
No worries...it's hard to go to something from nothing if one doesn't see
the connection...even if there is something there, already.
Best,
Jerry
On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 6:05 PM, Edwina Taborsky wrote:
> Jerry - I wouldn't dare analyze this, as the phi spiral
Jerry - I wouldn't dare analyze this, as the phi spiral abduction is a specific
analysis of yours and I haven't been following that thread. My first
'abductive' response would be that the formation of a spiral is a process of
habit-formation, i.e., the formation of a hypothesis, a set of rules.
Hi Edwina,
It clarifies. For instance, what would you say is the
"Object-as-it-is-meant-to-be-understood,
i.e., the dynamic object" in phi spiral abduction?
Best,
Jerry Rhee
On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 5:24 PM, Edwina Taborsky wrote:
> In reply to Gary, the reason I refer to
In reply to Gary, the reason I refer to Relations in the plural - and there
are indeed those people who reject this [eg, John Deely I know!] - is because
each of the three can function in a different modal category. I don't see how
defining the semiosic triad as ONE Relation conveys this
Hi Clark, list,
There is a phenomenon of mouse corneal striping/twisting/spiraling that is
unexplained. For instance:
“Corneal stripes and spirals are also visualised in some human conditions
(Bron 1973) and are unexplained. They may reflect failure of centripetally
migrating cells to meet
Edwina, Frances, List,
This may possible be, at least in part, something of a linguistic dispute.
If one sees the Representamen as 'sign' (one of Peirce's uses of the term),
then, one could argue that, say, a rhematic iconic qualisign (sign 1 in the
10-fold sign classification) hasn't any meaning
> On Mar 1, 2016, at 11:46 AM, Jerry Rhee wrote:
>
> I consider Inference to the Best Explanation as the concluding part of the
> First Stage of Inquiry, not the beginning. Selecting the best explanation
> has to operate in context of relieving a genuine doubt, preceded
One reason to appreciate the Abduction-Deduction-Induction distinction Peirce
derives from Aristotle is because it puts us in a different reality from the
one promulgated by Analytic Philosophy.
Analytic Philosophy supposes a reality of determinate logical atoms; and finds
it challenging to
Frances to Edwina and Listers---
You partly stated in effect recently that a sign "is" meaning, and that if a
sign "has" no meaning then it is not a sign, but is say mere noise. This seems
wrong to me from a Peircean stance, but perhaps others here can clarify the
jargon and with some
Hi everyone,
If you read CP 5.189 with logographic necessity (where “every part of the
written speech must be necessary for the whole… (where) nothing is
accidental…where everything is necessary at the place where it occurs”
~Strauss), that is, the form abduction *ought* to take (Peirce), then
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Date : March 1, 2016 at 12:34 pm
Peircers,
Here's another issue I thought had been cleared up
a long time ago but I find is still causing
Jerry - but a Sign IS meaning. If a sign has no meaning then it isn't a
sign. It's noise.
With regard to your 'meta-language' doesn't that have some similarity to
General Terms, which do allow multiple CONTEXT-based meanings?
You note that chemical symbols and propositions are particular.
List, Kirsti:
Interesting perspective!
May I extend your insight a bit? In a more general tone, it is not merely the
meaning of daily communication, but the meanings of daily communications as
well as logical, mathematical, chemical and other forms of scientific
communication.
The critical
List, Stephen:
>
> On 2/26/2016 5:38 PM, Stephen C. Rose wrote:
> > I see abduction as guessing (and approved by CP), induction as having some
> > evidence but less than deduction which is fallible but the best we can do
> > to prove something. I have been cautioned against writing brief notes
List, Jerry, Stephen,
It seems to be commonly assumed that CSP created a theory of signs. -
Well, amongst other things, he did. - But it was not what he was after.
- He was after a theory, or rather a method and methodogy of finding out
meanings.
By the end of 1800, there was a kind of
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