Re: Rumsfeld's enemies are circling - BBC

2003-03-28 Thread Chris Burford
Further indirect evidence of the British government spinning against Rumsfeld.: this morning the BBC correspondent in Washington built a report around Rumsfeld's outburst against Syria and Iran, and had a clip of Bush going off for the weekend. The commentary was that "he will hope that Mr Rums

Reuters report invasion delay

2003-03-28 Thread Chris Burford
This morning the BBC confirms the probability of a Reuters report that the advance on Baghdad is to be held up for 6-8 days. BBC reporter at HQ in Qatar says that is very probable, to bring up supplies: the US Third Division nerar Karbala is about where it should be but the progress of the mari

goin' after the protection racket?

2003-03-28 Thread Ian Murray
Perle's Resignation Not a Cure, Group Says Ethical Dealings of Advisory Boards Government-Wide at Issue, Watchdog Says By Christopher Lee Washington Post Staff Writer Saturday, March 29, 2003; Page A02 The flap over defense adviser Richard Perle's business dealings is merely an example of the e

impeaching Bush

2003-03-28 Thread michael perelman
A lurker asked if I would post this. Articles of Impeachment of President George W. Bush and Vice

Re: Re: bunkerbusters

2003-03-28 Thread Michael Perelman
Some of them are nuclear. I just did not know if they had non-nukes. Thanks. On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 09:44:00PM -0600, k hanly wrote: > No. They are conventional but with a lot of explosives. > -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-53

Re: bunkerbusters

2003-03-28 Thread k hanly
No. They are conventional but with a lot of explosives. http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/smart/gbu-28.htm Cheers, Ken Hanly Guided Bomb Unit-28 (GBU-28) BLU-113 Penetrator The Guided Bomb Unit-28 (GBU-28) is a special weapon developed for penetrating hardened Iraqi command centers located deep

WTO-deadlock approaching?

2003-03-28 Thread Ian Murray
WTO farm talks near deadlock Charlotte Denny Saturday March 29, 2003 The Guardian The World Trade Organisation was last night facing the prospect of a repeat of its disastrous Seattle meeting, after talks on agreeing a framework for cutting farm subsidies ended in deadlock. Stuart Harbinson, who

bunkerbusters

2003-03-28 Thread Michael Perelman
The US dropped a bunker buster. Are all of them nuclear? -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Barron's on the effects of war...

2003-03-28 Thread joanna bujes
Barron's gives the war 4-8 weeks before we swing into a more serious recession. Here's a snippet of what they emailed ALL their subscribers today: "What's War Good For? Already, the war is hurting the economy. If it drags on for more than 4-8 weeks, some economists say be prepared for a serious r

Rumsfeld's enemies are circling - BBC

2003-03-28 Thread Chris Burford
apart from the latest massacre by the invading forces, the main story on the BBC on Friday evening was to amplify the growing questions in the USA about the initial Pentagon strategy. This news story is probably being helped on a little by UK government off the record briefings. The tv showed s

Guardian: more on Perle's fall

2003-03-28 Thread Chris Burford
I'm all for being cynical but it is important to be able to recognize a fall. Yes Perle could still get the same salary on the board, but will he get the same commission fees? Will he get the same television exposure? Why within a week of what the FT called a victory celebration addressed by him

RE: Re: Dixie Chick apologises

2003-03-28 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:36244] Re: Dixie Chick apologises what she really said: Statement from Natalie Maines of the Dixie Chicks March 14, 2003 "As a concerned American citizen, I apologize to President Bush because my remark was disrespectful. I feel that whoever holds that office should be tr

Re: Re: Dixie Chick apologises

2003-03-28 Thread joanna bujes
Sudden thought: Assuming Natalie did write this, as is, why don't you invite her for an interview on your radio show? Joanna At 06:30 PM 03/28/2003 -0500, you wrote: Dan Scanlan wrote: Apology from Natalie Maines of The Dixie Chicks This is satire, right? Doug

RE: Re: Dixie Chick apologises

2003-03-28 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:36244] Re: Dixie Chick apologises Yup. See http://thespeciousreport.com/2003_dixiechicks.html. Note the source. Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] &  http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine stop the war now! > -Original Message- > From: Doug Henwoo

Re: Re: Dixie Chick apologises

2003-03-28 Thread joanna bujes
A bummmer. Hope not. I thought it was a real "apology." Joanna At 06:30 PM 03/28/2003 -0500, you wrote: Dan Scanlan wrote: Apology from Natalie Maines of The Dixie Chicks This is satire, right? Doug

Re: Dixie Chick apologises

2003-03-28 Thread Doug Henwood
Dan Scanlan wrote: Apology from Natalie Maines of The Dixie Chicks This is satire, right? Doug

RE: Dixie Chick apologises

2003-03-28 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:36241] Dixie Chick apologises Steve Earle is pretty good politically (and musically) but is with the general category of "country music." Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] &  http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine stop the war now! > -Original Messa

Come on, now

2003-03-28 Thread Dan Scanlan
Catholic Teacher Quits Rather Than Remove Anti-War Button --A teacher at a Catholic high school has quit rather than remove an anti-war button the principal said violated the dress code. [Principal Dr. Joseph S. Fusco's email address, [EMAIL PROTECTED], of Bergen Catholic High School in Oradel

Dixie Chick apologises

2003-03-28 Thread Dan Scanlan
Apology from Natalie Maines of The Dixie Chicks As a concerned American citizen, I apologize to President Bush because my remark was disrespectful. I now realize that whoever holds that office should be treated with the utmost respect. I hope everyone understands, I'm just a young girl who grew

Plus, they cook and eat them afterwards

2003-03-28 Thread Louis Proyect
Rumsfeld Calls on Syria to Stop Flow of Military Aid to Iraq U.S. Forces Consolidate Positions Amid Wide Fighting By Thomas W. Lippman Washington Post Staff Writer Friday, March 28, 2003; 5:00 PM (clip) As U.S. warplanes pounded Iraqi defenders with bombs and missiles, several Army and Marine uni

US econ. stability

2003-03-28 Thread Devine, James
Title: US econ. stability for one of my courses, I decided that it would be useful to calculate how the degree of macro-level automatic stabilization due to the Federal budget has changed over time. (That is, it used to be that if the US economy goes into recession, the deficit automatically w

Rightwing media and the war

2003-03-28 Thread Louis Proyect
If you go to the website of WABC radio (http://www.wabcradio.com/), the station of Rush Limbaugh, Michael Savage and a host of other rightwing scumbags, you will find an invitation to display pro-war posters paid for and distributed by the station. This station has millions of listeners. Clear

FW: useful web resources re Iraq

2003-03-28 Thread Devine, James
Title: FW: useful web resources re Iraq my friend Jennifer Olmstead sent me the following. Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] &  http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine stop the war now! Hi all, As someone who has been studying the Middle East for quite some time, I feel com

reconstructing Iraq

2003-03-28 Thread Ian Murray
http://www.carlisle.army.mil/ssi/pubs/2003/reconirq/reconirq.htm RECONSTRUCTING IRAQ: INSIGHTS, CHALLENGES, AND MISSIONS FOR MILITARY FORCES IN A POST-CONFLICT SCENARIO Conrad C. Crane W. Andrew Terrill Strategic Studies Institute February 2003 The views expressed in this report are those of the

Re: Re: Re: Falling perles

2003-03-28 Thread Alan Jacobson
... > Mr.Perle sounded angry. Asked > whether he had resigned, he replied: 'Let me just > tell you something. If I > had, you'd be the last person in the world I'd want > to talk to.' He then > slammed down the phone." > It's ok, he understands the concept of collateral damage. Alan J

Spreading the cost, legitimizing aggression

2003-03-28 Thread k hanly
http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=15&ItemID=3341 Aid Conundrum by Phyllis Bennis; March 28, 2003 The UN Security Council is likely to vote tomorrow (28 March) on a resolution outlining how emergency humanitarian aid will be provided to Iraqis. The U.S.-UK are pushing for

casualty figures

2003-03-28 Thread e. ahmet tonak
Can anyone suggest reliable and continuously updated sources for military and civilian casualties on both sides --beyond iraqbodycount.net? Thanks E. Ahmet Tonak Professor of Economics Simon's Rock College of Bard 84 Alford Road Great Barrington, MA 01230 Tel: 413 528 7488 Fax: 413 528 7365 www

RE: Kathy Kelly report

2003-03-28 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:36226] Kathy Kelly report The title is apt. I can imagine that for each Iraqi soldier killed by the US/poodle forces, there's an entire family of Iraqis that's angry, very angry. And then think of the families of civilians... Jim -Original Message- From: Dan Scanl

Re: Re: Falling perles

2003-03-28 Thread Carl Remick
From: joanna bujes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Say what? He just resigned his "chairmanship" -- lowering his profile, increasing his ability to influence policy AND rake in the $$. That's all. Alas. Hold the "alas" please. Perle's not exactly chortling with glee at this development. As the NY Times r

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2003-03-28 Thread Michael Hoover
"We hold these truths to be self evident. That all men are created unequal, and that the capitalist class is endowed with ceratin natural rights; that among these rights are the right to hoard, exploit, and market life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, air, water, food, clothing, shelter, and emp

Teacher Quits Rather Than Remove Anti-War Button

2003-03-28 Thread Michael Hoover
Catholic Teacher Quits Rather Than Remove Anti-War Button --A teacher at a Catholic high school has quit rather than remove an anti-war button the principal said violated the dress code. [Principal Dr. Joseph S. Fusco's email address, [EMAIL PROTECTED], of Bergen Catholic High School in Oradell,

First Nations view

2003-03-28 Thread Dan Scanlan
Title: First Nations view Here's one that's been circulating among American Indian and Hawaiian groups. Dan --- BUREAU OF IRAQI AFFAIRS (BIA) Dear People of Iraq, Now that you have been liberated from your tyrannical oppressors, we at the BIA look for

The Party Line

2003-03-28 Thread Waistline2
Do you uphold the party line? "When the party line changed, you changed and are you an agent of the Soviet Union? Are you a communist bent on destroying American democracy?" These were questions from the 1950's and early 1960's that many in America faced who believe in fair play. The "party line

Kathy Kelly report

2003-03-28 Thread Dan Scanlan
Title: Kathy Kelly report Broadcast on Tuesday, March 25, 2003 by CommonDreams.org Angry, Very Angry by Kathy Kelly BAGHDAD -- I'm surrounded by some of the most kindly and gentle people in the world, coming from many walks of life. Members of our Iraq Peace Team have 'checked in' on most day

Re: Falling perles

2003-03-28 Thread joanna bujes
Say what? He just resigned his "chairmanship" -- lowering his profile, increasing his ability to influence policy AND rake in the $$. That's all. Alas. Joanna At 08:23 AM 03/28/2003 +, you wrote: The stated excuse for Perle's resignation as the guru of arrogant cynical US unilateralism, is

Perle before Swine

2003-03-28 Thread Devine, James
Title: Perle before Swine I read somewhere that Perle was an advisor to the late Senator from Boeing, Henry "Scoop" Jackson. There were a lot of the Cold War liberal/right-wing social democrat/Zionist contingent in Jackson's coterie. Was Perle one of them? Jim Devine

Re: Falling perles

2003-03-28 Thread k hanly
I dont see how it removes a layer of political safety. Perle is a loose cannon. He makes critics' case for them. The fifth estate on CBC had an excellent documentary on the origins of the Iraq war and the basic policies of the New American Century. Perle was interviewed and confirmed exactly many p

Re: Bullets, Bibles, and Food

2003-03-28 Thread Waistline2
>Franklin Graham, son of the Rev. Billy Graham and one of the nation's most >outspoken critics of Islam, said Wednesday he has relief workers "poised and >ready" to roll into Iraq to provide for the population's post-war physical and spiritual >needs. < Here is another indication of why, no matte

RE: Falling perles

2003-03-28 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:36217] Falling perles  I wouldn't rejoice. Rumsfeld allowed P to quit as chair of the committee, but P's still going to be on the cttee, advising the Pentagon. I doubt that this involves a major cut in pay. Jim -Original Message- From: Chris Burford To: [EMAIL PROT

Bus 174

2003-03-28 Thread Louis Proyect
On June 12, 2000 a drugged-out, pistol-brandishing 22 year-old Afro-Brazilian named Sandro de Nascimiento hijacked a bus in Rio de Janeiro and threatened the passengers with death unless a series of incoherent demands were met. As SWAT teams laid siege to the bus, TV crews transmitted images of

"Every time we clear guys, more come"

2003-03-28 Thread Louis Proyect
NY Times, Mar. 28, 2003 A FOOTHOLD A Village Is Bloodied in a Stubborn Battle By STEVEN LEE MYERS KIFL, Iraq, March 27 — The concussive force of the tanks' rounds sucked everything off the sidewalks and into the middle of this village's narrow, dusty main road — "even people," the captain of a ta

(Fwd) Zapiro on CNN (non-virus .gif file)

2003-03-28 Thread Patrick Bond
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Falling perles

2003-03-28 Thread Chris Burford
The stated excuse for Perle's resignation as the guru of arrogant cynical US unilateralism, is likely merely to be a relatively face-saving formula that allows him to cooperate in his resignation. What we have to see is how far he loses in prestige. Perle lost many televised debates in the UK p

hegemons lose this war

2003-03-28 Thread Chris Burford
There is so much evidence available in London this morning, that I can no longer afford personally and professionally the time to detail it. I have the advantage of more sceptical media in the UK, and a personal interest in the minutiae of tactics, and meaning, which IMO allows me to see behind t