Re: Economics and law

2004-08-16 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Michael writes: >Ken, this comes close to baiting. Sorry. True... it could... but there is a difference, don't you think? I was baiting on a "personal level" ("You freaking lawyers!") or just the "unexpected" kind on this list ("As a group, US lawyers are not well trained in other cultures")?

Re: Economics and law

2004-08-16 Thread Kenneth Campbell
David Shemano writes: >The issue is not whether East Germany, or any other socialist >economy, was less "able" [...] Yes it was -- the part you are responding to. It was about regions. I wanted to show that you probably didn't even know where Europe is... let alone why Germany is not a unit. Th

Re: Economics and law

2004-08-13 Thread Kenneth Campbell
David the Savior is back and writes: >Let's try one last time. Please do. We appreciate your altruism. >The suggestion was made that a socialist economy will >more highly value transportation safety than a >capitalist economy. If you are trying to cite thread precedent, I applaud you. "Economi

Re: economics, law and the old soviet economy

2004-08-13 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Chris wrote: >Russia engages in these grandiose "catching up with >the West" adventures every couple of centuries or so. What I have always enjoyed about Chris's posts about Russia is his love of the populace... Likewise, I do with North Americans... Ken. -- Since the whole affair had become o

Re: Economics and law

2004-08-13 Thread Kenneth Campbell
David wrote: >I was never good at geography. That's apparent. >The argument was made that a socialist economy would put more >emphasis on transportation safety than a capitalist economy. >Seems plausible. Silly me, I though one way to test that >thesis was to examine and compare the actual prod

Cars

2004-08-12 Thread Kenneth Campbell
I like cars. I do not think there is some particularly capitalist element about them... except their development. But the subject of state subsidization is fair. It is amazing, in a city the size of Toronto, how "taking the subway" turned from a 1960s futuristic method of transport (say, 1967, Ex

Re: Economics and law

2004-08-12 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Charles wrote: >>It's hard because the Soviet Union (and all socialist >>inspired economies) had to put so much economic >>emphasis on military defense because capitalism was >>constantly invading them or threatening to nuke 'em. >>This throws off all ability to measure from Soviet and >>socialist

Re: Economics and law

2004-08-10 Thread Kenneth Campbell
David wrote: >Any economy in a country whose name had or has the words >"People's," "Socialist" or "Sweden" in it. I like Sweden. You gotta problem with that, punk? Ken. -- I like Sweden. You gotta problem with that, punk? -- Me in this thread

Re: Economics and law

2004-08-10 Thread Kenneth Campbell
David wrote: >Conceptually, you are right back where you are >today, where the poor can buy a used Pinto. > >David Shemano My parents were not poor... they were working class... they did work to make ends meet. Your "mobile poverty metre" is a tad chintzy. To assume that they might "have" to buy

Re: Economics and law

2004-08-10 Thread Kenneth Campbell
David writes: >I don't have a strong opinion on whether regulation should be >done by legislation or litigation -- it seems like a >peripheral issue. I think that is a HUGE issue, not peripheral. But that's for another thread and another day. >[...] "safety" is not an absolute value that takes >

Re: Economics and law

2004-08-10 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Charles wrote: >I think you are right that the problem wouldn't just go >away with socialism. There might , in general, in >socialism be more focus on some safety issues when the >decision would not depend upon how the safer engineering >impacted an individual corporation's bottomline. I can >see

Re: Corporate Democrats

2004-08-10 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Yoshie wrote: >My posting was in response to the remark that militant >demonstrations in the streets are "tactics of another >era" and that protests that are more theatrical than >militant are merely "marginal." Shame on the person who wrote that horrible thing you respond to... Ken. -- Fascism

Re: Corporate Democrats

2004-08-10 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Doug wrote: Louis: >>>The lesson here is to remain militant in the streets, >>>not to back a bourgeois politician. Me: >>Ironically, this is, itself, a flawed analogy. "Militant >>in the streets" >is lingo from an era of ascendant working >>class interests -- in >particular, radical lingo from th

Ed McMahon's $7.2m dog

2004-08-10 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Charles' response (Economics and Law thread) about the politics behind tort law -- especially law involving people against corporations -- reminded me of a WSJ editorial last fall. Read the opening item, below, and check out the commentary, below it, if you care about this kind of creation of urba

Re: Economics and law

2004-08-10 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Charles wrote: >You are probably aware that many juries ( composed largely >on North American workers) have given such high awards >often that the rightwing has been carrying out tort >"reform" for a while, whereby caps are put on the amounts. It was my understanding that many of these awards are

Re: Corporate Democrats

2004-08-10 Thread Kenneth Campbell
>The lesson here is to remain militant in the streets, >not to back a bourgeois politician. Ironically, this is, itself, a flawed analogy. "Militant in the streets" is lingo from an era of ascendant working class interests -- in particular, radical lingo from the 60s-70s. (Militancy, itself, is ol

Re: Economics and law

2004-08-09 Thread Kenneth Campbell
>CB: Another infamous case of this was the exploding Pinto of Ford. Thanks, CB. That was the 70s. May not apply to the original post I made, in the time frame... but same principle. Regardless... The notion that "lives have worth based upon economic evaluation" is hated amongst normal working Nor

Economics and law

2004-08-05 Thread Kenneth Campbell
I've mentioned to friends I've known before law studies the plethora of suits involving electric space heaters -- apparently a sort of a chew-toy for tort lawyers. There is an implied (depends how you read it) "acceptable death rates" formula in tort. That "Learned Hand Formula?" Anyone read about

Re: China Study Group

2004-08-03 Thread Kenneth Campbell
>Hi Kenneth Campbell, Hi Jonathan Lassen! >Who funds Monthly Review? I have no idea. I have an idea... grin. But I love the publication, nonetheless. >I do know a bit about China Study Group, since I work with them. The >annual budget is about 100 dollars, which is what the website

China Study Group

2004-08-03 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Jonathan Lassen writes: >Thanks LP for posting the review of Hart-Landsberg and >Burkett's long MR piece. I just picked up a copy >yesterday, and have been looking it over. I've got my >own little quibbles with it (not enough emphasis on rural >China, which I think is desperately important right n

Re: China and socialism

2004-08-02 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Chris Doss wrote: >For the NYT or WP, everything bad that happens in >China or Russia is the result of a nefarious plot >hatched in Beijing or Moscow. For the life of me I >can't understand why people who would be >hypersceptical over these papers' coverage of, say, >Venezuela cite them as impeach

Re: quote du jour

2004-07-28 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Ann Coulter is channeling Dick Cheney again... ? Ken.

Re: Israel pushing for Kurdish state?

2004-07-28 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Diane wrote: >>That being said and I agree again with you, the >>Kurds are an oppressed nationality. Period. Ulhas wrote >Does it mean that the Left should support the breakup >of Iran, Iraq, Syria and Turkey? > >Ulhas Of course not. But I think your point is more along the lines of the foreig

Re: Simon and Garfunkel

2004-07-02 Thread Kenneth Campbell
David wrote: >I am a reductionist, as some of you may >remember from a previous exchange. Therefore, I insist on >narrowing issues to their most basic. You write: "I insist on narrowing issues to their most basic." I do, too, sir. Survival. Ability to raise kids. Dignity. My dad was working c

Re: Simon and Garfunkel

2004-07-02 Thread Kenneth Campbell
David the non-trolled writes: >You misunderstand my questions. I am not asking >whether the crew should be paid. I am trying to >understand the labor theory of value/surplus >value/exploitation in context. I don't think I misunderstand your question. I was talking about the "value" of the crew

Re: Simon and Garfunkel

2004-07-02 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Michael writes: >Please, no personal attacks. If David were a troller, he >could have been very disruptive here. He has not been. I honestly did not write "David the troller" in a negative way. Honestly! I thought he was just here to be the straw that stirs the drink that we all prefer. I thin

Re: Simon and Garfunkel

2004-07-02 Thread Kenneth Campbell
David the troller writes: >Humor me on this. I need some Marx 101. Let's imagine the >crew does all their work. They set up the special sound and >light systems, etc. However, Simon and Garfunkel get into a >fight and refuse to perform, so the show is cancelled and all >ticket are refunded. T

Re: Sowell

2004-07-02 Thread Kenneth Campbell
I really thank you for this piece, David. It was more articulate than that which had come in quotes before. But Mr Sowell does still seem quite... you know... stupid. You actually quote this: >Liberals tend to describe what they want in terms of >goals rather than processes, and not to be overl

Re: The Greens commit suicide

2004-07-02 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Respectfully, The Greens are proto-fascists. Environment over working class reality. Greens have nothing to do with class in terms of production. I think the class component was important once to certain people. Ken.

Re: Sowell

2004-07-02 Thread Kenneth Campbell
>CB: Well, sufferin' suckatash, is he saying the >government bureaucrats were Marxists ? Many of them are. (present tense) If you get to know them, of course. But, Charles... don't tell him that. Next thing you know, David Shemano might be against unions. (It is rumored that organized labor migh

Re: Sowell

2004-07-01 Thread Kenneth Campbell
I appreciate the distinction between rising wages and minimum wages, David. Thanks. >Now that I got that off my chest, I am off to see Simon and >Garfunkel at the Hollywood Bowl. When I get back, how about a >discussion of explaining the price of concert tickets from a >Marxist perspective? Peop

Saddam on TV

2004-07-01 Thread Kenneth Campbell
For what it's worth... I saw Hussein on TV this morn, and Peter Jennings did an excellent job of old Murrow-style radio reporting... describing scenes without the aid of a TV camera. Jennings described a beaten down man, thin, polite, alert, tangling with the judge once. I have since seen the usu

Re: Chechnya and capitalism

2004-07-01 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Louis wrote: >You may be a great economist, but sometimes you suck >as a moderator. Respectfully, I have to disagree. Michael is an excellent moderator. Michael does something akin to actual life: keep differing ideas in contact, because there is something that comes out of it that's better than

Re: Roy Medvedev interview (on Putin)

2004-05-14 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Grin... Michael... I don't mind the thread. Someone has to point out what Louis does... Which is divide. Mr.Doss has provided a fresh and direct perspective, so what? It was like your invitation to that Chicago right wing lawyer chap... We learn thorugh being in contact. As for the "asshole" co

Re: Roy Medvedev interview (on Putin)

2004-05-14 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Glad to see you remain the same alienating asshole as ever, Lou. Mr Doss has done nothing but offer his own opinion and plenty of interesting material. I see no problem or a need to "cut him down." (All your hackneyed adjectives about his posts are a reminder why you don't have a book contract.)

Re: In my life

2003-12-14 Thread Kenneth Campbell
J wrote: >The first article I ever read about Fidel Castro was >a story by Tad Szulc, in Playboy or Penthouse. Playboy deserves a rightful place in Yanqui social liberation history. The interviews were remarkable. As a lad, I was obviously attracted because of beautiful females. And we males

Re: Advertising

2003-11-22 Thread Kenneth Campbell
joanna bujes wrote: >I dont' want ANY messages, healthy or not, being >broadcast about. I was never exposed to any form >of advertisement until I emigrated to Paris in >63...and then to the US in 64. My immediate >reaction to it was that I felt manipulated and >insulted. I still feel that way. So

Re: beltway backlash on farm states pork

2003-11-22 Thread Kenneth Campbell
>A message to my fellow Americans who chose to live where >the wheat waves, the buffalo roam and most rites of ?passage still involve a pickup truck: > >I'm sick and tired of having my pocket picked by your >two-faced politicians who talk a good game about self- >reliance and limited government, an

Re: Fiction: "Rich and poor"

2003-11-21 Thread Kenneth Campbell
>Maybe you mean "domesday book" No, no... I know that Norman accounting tax grab census you mention... I mean the "Doomsday Book"... you have to see his evil plot to get her comment. And I think, really, the idea of the Corporate Boss hiding in the shoe department, scribbling about unionists in

Fiction: "Rich and poor"

2003-11-21 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Joanna wrote: >It's interesting,in this regard, to note that all >fictional plots involving the rich and the poor >changing places, always have a capitalist trade >places with a beggar...not a worker. Today, yes, often so. Not always so... One of my fave old movies is the "Devil and Miss Jones".

Berrigan bros.

2003-11-21 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Michael brought the Berrigans up in the Thread-That-Will-Not-Be-Named. I'd like to underline that point, even though it was only originally mentioned in the context of Catholics and that dogma (and all its facets, liberation theology, etc.). Raised a Catholic, I appreciate reading about what they

Step into a classroom [was "the Clinton years"]

2003-11-16 Thread Kenneth Campbell
I am just reading through this discussion. This Julio Huato seems to have a grasp of strategy and tactics... But I don't want to damn him with my praise. Michael P. (the closet horsetrader) wrote: > Julio is probably right, but think of how horrible > this situation is. Well... I'd say DON'T "t

Re: the Clinton years

2003-11-15 Thread Kenneth Campbell
I sense that this Cockburn guy is important in some way to some of you Americans for some reason... And I would like to be polite and give him a wide berth... since he matters a lot to your culture. But this is lousy style: * Clichés like "rubbing shoulders"... that's as bad "made a cool millio

Re: Western rationality

2003-11-09 Thread Kenneth Campbell
I like this one: >"Westeronoid rational" behaviour? After that, you can loot the fucking tradition. :) Ken. -- Fall out of the window with confetti in my hair. -- Tom Waits

Re: Western rationality

2003-11-09 Thread Kenneth Campbell
All Right! Sabri writes, progressively: >You are demonstrating a "westernly rational" behaviour. It is slipping from an adjective to... well... a lesser adjective. Not "western" now "westernly". Soon it will be a "not eastern." >Also, I never said that I want to take revenge from "western >rat

Re: Western rationality

2003-11-09 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Jim writes: >(is "western rationality" like a "western saddle"?) I had originally thought it was about the proportion of onion, green pepper and ham in an omelets. But Sabri has convinced me that it is about revenge against people who eat onion, green pepper and ham omelets. Ken. P.S. Hang

Western rationality

2003-11-09 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Hi Sabri -- I didn't respond to this because I wanted to give it a lot of thought. And try to separate out "layers" of influence in my own opinions. Maybe I've just been "westernized" as you sort of imply. (Plus, Jurriaan did a rather good job in dealing with the concept of "western rationality"

Clyde Prestowitz

2003-11-09 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Saw this chap on World View (on CBC Newsworld) this morn. Very extensive and open interview. (CBC style, most Americans feel free to speak openly in Canada because few people "back home" will ever hear about it. :) He's author of _Rogue Nation_. Spoke critically of Bush (a radical) and the theory

Re: In defence of Krugman

2003-11-01 Thread Kenneth Campbell
l civil libertarian court was the Warren Court, >whose key members were Warren and Brennan, appointed >by Eisenhower, and Goldberg, Fortas, and Marshall, >appointed by Kennedy and Johnson. The one right thing >you say here is that the Warren Court era is over. jks > >--- Kenneth

Re: Tobacco

2003-11-01 Thread Kenneth Campbell
I wasn't talking about second hand smoke... That's another topic. There are laws against smoking in public places. Nothing wrong with those. Ken. >with second-hand smoke, SOMEONE ELSE puts the smoke in your >mouth and nose, while YOU have little choice but to inhale. >Jim > > -Origina

Re: In defence of Krugman

2003-11-01 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Well... yes and no. Yes, it was "Warren's" court, and Eisenhower was disappointed with his two appointments. But, no, Warren couldn't have done anything without Black and Douglas. And Douglas was a major source of this extreme free speech-ism. (Mind you, I wasn't there.) Ken. -- I used to

Re: In defence of Krugman and against Alexander Cockburn: choice of targets

2003-11-01 Thread Kenneth Campbell
>JKS writes:>I'd be proud to defend the First >Amendment ina NAzi case too.< > >if the gov't cracks down on the Nazis, they crack down on >the Left, too, most often in a bigger way. A first >amendment defense of the Nazis is indirectly >defending the Left. Elementary, my dear Mr. Devine. :) You k

Re: In defence of Krugman and against Alexander Cockburn: choice of targets

2003-11-01 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Sabri, yer gonna out live us all. Some Turkish hills thing. Worry not. I don't smoke... But I think yer a bit harsh on our dyslexic lawyer friend. You wrote: >Western rationality requires, or leads to, Justins of the world. Adults have the right to kill themselves, in any way they wish. As long

Re: Interview with Karl Marx

2003-10-30 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Hey! soula avramidis! >a young man ran towards the old marx all joy and zeal >wanting to join the cause; marx simply told him to >bugger off. he was nice but not naive. That sounds heartbreaking. I'm sorry to hear it. If you, personally, have to believe that Karl Marx was about the "iron rule of

Re: Interview with Karl Marx

2003-10-30 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Carrol Cox writes: [Some general gossip] We all have our moments, good and bad. That's the very definition of "quite human." Do you have a different one? Ken. -- Gossip is charming! But scandal is merely gossip made tedious by morality. -- Oscar Wilde

Re: Interview with Karl Marx

2003-10-30 Thread Kenneth Campbell
soula avramidis writes: >this Karl Marx is tame, domesticated and suitable >for a western audience Karl _was_ tame, polite and reasonable in interview and personal interaction. He spoke to the "other side" in a conversation -- didn't sit there delivering monologues. Quite human. Sorry about tha

Re: Interview with Karl Marx

2003-10-29 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Max B. Sawicky wrote: >this was great. > >www.prospect-magazine.co.uk/ArticleView.asp?accessible=yes&P_Article=12 295 It is great! Thoroughly entertaining and inspirational at the same time... My two reasons for thinking it so... 1) The Nod to the Past: The writer's assumption of Karl's styl

Re: optimism?

2003-10-17 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Here ya go... --- cut here --- Copyright 2003 The Times Mirror Company; Los Angeles Times October 17, 2003 Friday Home Edition SECTION: Calendar; Part 5; Page 30; Calendar Desk LENGTH: 810 words HEADLINE: AL MARTINEZ; Feels like a people's war is brewing BYLINE: AL MARTINEZ BODY: I've alw

Gore eyes CBC-launched cable company Newsworld International

2003-10-03 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Gore eyes CBC-launched cable company Newsworld International Barbara Shecter and Isabel Vincent National Post Oct 3 2003 In his quest to set up a new liberal-leaning broadcaster in the United States, former U.S. vice-president Al Gore and a group of investors could end up buying Newsworld Intern

Re: Bush - dolt or ordinary criminal?

2003-10-02 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Now we are shifting from a) ad hominem attacks on a local leader (Yanqui stuff) to b) war crimes. At least change the thread name, Sabri. Ken. -- For all these new and evolutionary facts, meanings, purposes, new poetic messages, new forms and expressions, are inevitable. -- Walt

Re: Bush - dolt or ordinary criminal?

2003-10-02 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Michael wrote: >In short, he was not universally bad. Bush is. Carter was >domestically a conventional Republican. In business, they call it "managing expectations." [In other words... ADAPT to your fucking environment... without losing your whole purpose to exist] :) Ken. -- If you are goi

Re: Bush - dolt or ordinary criminal?

2003-10-02 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Bill Lear writes about Carter and Bush: >That's because yes, there is a significant difference in >attitude of this faction of the ruling party, though not >really in results. The differences are little more than >mere window dressing, which is not to say I don't want >Bush and his gang of splend

Yanqui readers: "The Manhattan Institute" ?

2003-09-28 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Any input on what this group is? I know it's a conservative think tank in NYC -- but some more background on funding and policy purpose would be appreciated. Or personalities closely associated with it. Thanks, Ken. -- It is the wretchedness of being rich that you have to live with rich people.

Looking for a list post author

2003-09-26 Thread Kenneth Campbell
I regret I don't have the time to search through archives... or make uneducated guesses... So I thought I'd try the blunt approach. Would the lad who made the post with the theory that the Republicans cannot "build" countries (like Iraq, as opposed to Japan in 46) is because they _are_ Republican

Dem. candidate debate

2003-09-26 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Best line from debate, as formulated in NYT editorial: The newcomer, retired Gen. Wesley Clark, was more affable than forthcoming about his unformed policy views. He insisted that he was a Democrat at heart, despite previous votes for Republican presidents, and would prove it i

Goodbye to all that: Congress Kills Pentagon Unit That Wanted Terrorism Futures Market

2003-09-26 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Congress Shuts Pentagon Unit Over Privacy By CARL HULSE New York Times September 26, 2003 WASHINGTON, Sept. 25 — A Pentagon office that became steeped in controversy over privacy issues and a market in terrorism futures was shut down by Congress today as the Senate passed and sent to President B

"The RIAA 261"

2003-09-10 Thread Kenneth Campbell
These kinds of heavy-handed policies are the stuff of rebellious tension... or resigned despair. Depending on the surrounding social climate. And the "noise" created around it. Ken. -- An author is a fool who, not content with boring those he lives with, insists on boring future generations.

RIAA and Heine -- A thought

2003-09-08 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Washington Post's Fast Forward (tech) section is naturally following the "epic" struggle of the music industry (RIAA) against evolving technology. Latest column (Rob Pegaro): RIAA Uses Law to Defend Interests After years of trying to criminalize hardware and software that can be used

Music industry tech turmoil continues

2003-09-05 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Record labels getting desperate By MATHEW INGRAM Globe and Mail September 5 2003 Universal Music, one of the five major record companies, announced late on Wednesday that it is chopping the retail price of its "top line" CDs by anywhere from 23 to 30 per cent. The company said it is making this

Re: affluenza?

2003-09-04 Thread Kenneth Campbell
"Earned it" could mean many things. More immediately, it would mean you did your 4-hours. It was not "bestowed." Ken. -- CLARKE'S LAW: Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. -- Arthur C. Clarke

Re: affluenza?

2003-09-04 Thread Kenneth Campbell
I wrote: >You cannot let people have time... Yet I can think of >nothing I would treasure more. Just to make sure I was clear, there... I do not mean the time one gets from calling in sick, or from getting unemployment, or from welfare, or from being derelict... Nor do I mean the time one gets f

Re: affluenza?

2003-09-04 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Mike B) wrote: >Commdification has made consciousness cheap along with >everything else, most especially, our lives. Idle hands... idle hands... the devil's work results, every time, under any system. You cannot let people have time... Yet I can think of nothing I would treasure more. Ken. -- .

Market Solutions to Privacy Problems?

2003-09-02 Thread Kenneth Campbell
These kinds of ideas are fine in an abstract, make-believe world -- the Wired magazine/Negroponte realm. "Robinson Crusoe" versions of a wired world. Everyone on their own little island, everyone wired together. Deighton says, below: "It's about offering its customers and prospects an identity tha

Globe and Mail poll on Middle East "Road to Peace"

2003-09-02 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Sometimes Canadian business classes and intelligentsia surprise me. There is an ability to see the world drastically differently than the USA media "echo chamber" of the White House communications pipeline (a pipeline/octopus that should be flow charted and studied as part of high school education)

Re: Shades of Orwell: the BBC reports on a culture war

2003-08-23 Thread Kenneth Campbell
BBC News reports: >They actually made people sing Beatles songs. That should be a scene from a Terry Gilliam movie... a creepy, "Brazil"-style setting at an airport... Futuristic airport. Echoey footsteps can be heard as jets take off and land. Main character, looking a little nervous, wander

Re: Nine seconds to subsistence

2003-08-15 Thread Kenneth Campbell
I ain't talking about ultimate truths, here. As if Mr. Berlin had some lock on truth. :) I am talking about people (my community, say -- or better yet my family, which was stunned by the world around them last night and is still buzzing with questions) speaking their concerns. Mass media, as Walt

Re: Nine seconds to subsistence

2003-08-15 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Michael writes: >guarantee -- we will hear that it was the environmentalists fault. >We need more nukes, more coal Pass the damn energy bill. Okay. We're taking bets, here. Michael says it will be the enviros who take the rap -- probably via communications work by the White House (Bush ha

Re: Nine seconds to subsistence

2003-08-15 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Ravi wrote: >funny. i live in NJ and had power throughout y'day and up till >this moment, today. NYT has a pretty good graphic... http://www.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/national/20030815_blk_GRID/030815_na tGRID.pdf You can dispute their statement with their editor if you like. (Hell, everyone sho

Nine seconds to subsistence

2003-08-15 Thread Kenneth Campbell
ABC News ran the most stunningly disturbing graphic... A map of the NE continent, here... with a little second clock in the corner. With each second, a jurisdiction or two shut down. "Off the grid." Michigan. Tick. Connecticut. Tick. Ohio. Tick. New Jersey. Tick.

Re: Fragile

2003-08-14 Thread Kenneth Campbell
You are one helluva good man, Euble. I appear to have missed it, or be caught between the replay and conference. I will check it out on replay, though. Many, many thanks. Ken. -- He took a face from the ancient gallery, And he walked on down the hall. -- Jim Morrison

Re: Fragile

2003-08-14 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Yeah, I botched Mr. Morrison's lyrics. Shows you how rattled I was. >There's danger on the edge of town, >Ride the king's highway. >Weird scenes inside the goldmine; >ride the king's highway west, baby. Lemme tell ya, I was more than ready to ride the highway west, baby. But, then, friends in Wi

Re: Fragile

2003-08-14 Thread Kenneth Campbell
I am still trying to figure out what happened. TV is out. Radio is repeating same stuff. CNN site didn't work, last I tried it. CBC.ca is repeating CBC Radio. Anyone outside the zone of collapse with better data? I wrote: >but the "authorities" were absolutely useless. The height of the stupidit

Fragile

2003-08-14 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Man o man... Wild scenes inside the gold mine. Thank god for car batteries. I never would have been able to find out anything. (Must keep supply of batteries in house... Must keep supply of batteries in house... Must keep supply of batteries in house...) Seriously, though, this system is as frag

Re: Green

2003-08-14 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Yoshie wrote: >I'd prefer Red, Black, and Green together (the colors of >revolutionary socialism, anarchism, and environmentalism), >also the colors of the pan-African Black Liberation Flag. Sounds good to me. I adopt that as my flag. But don't tell anyone I agree with you. I would hate to be la

Green

2003-08-14 Thread Kenneth Campbell
INTRO: I knew Bob Hunter fairly well in a previous incarnation. Bob co-founded Greenpeace. His column appeared weekly. He wrote often about global warming. It was humorous to see his winter columns about global warming run during some terrible winter storms -- humorous to read the mail responses th

Re: Reply to an Observer article by the Italian Refounded CP

2003-08-14 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Doug wrote: >>It's always the person responding to the irritable grouch that >>gets the reprimand, isn't it? Louie wrote: >Doug, when did you take Jerry Levy's place on PEN-L? It amazes me that so little has changed. I knew Jerry Levy online 6-7 years ago, back when I disappeared from leftie l

Re: Green

2003-08-14 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Mike wrote: >The State is the governmental expression of class >rule. Fair enough. I've heard many descriptions of what the state is. That's a workable one. >I've never met anyone--anarchists included--who argued >that that State could be abolished by decree. I agree with that. (In terms of rat

Re: Green

2003-08-14 Thread Kenneth Campbell
>Is this necessary? > >On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 06:05:38PM -0400, Kenneth Campbell wrote: >> If you can't >> sell it... well... languish in the warehouse with Lou's crew. > >-- >Michael Perelman >Economics Department >California State University >

Re: Guardian Unlimited | The Guardian | Study of Bush's psyche touches a nerve

2003-08-14 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Jim writes: >what kind of neurosis -- or psychosis -- do we leftists suffer from? I thought Mr. Coyle had the funniest response to that... What Should We Do? "Organize to free Mumia." (He caveated his comment, as do I.) If there is a leftie syndrome, it's the decentralization of the whole body.

French ministry: 3,000 dead of heat-related causes

2003-08-14 Thread Kenneth Campbell
About 3,000 die of heat-related causes in France Associated Press August 14 2003 About 3,000 people have died in France of heat-related causes since abnormally high temperatures swept across the country about two weeks ago, the health ministry said Thursday. "The number of deaths linked directl

Soldiers

2003-08-14 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Jim wrote about Stan Goff... His son is serving. Reminds me: The other day, I got off the 401 Highway at a PetroCan station and I couldn't find the wallet right away. I did the "Go ahead" thing absently to the other person. It was someone in combat clothes. Little beret and all that. He was ver

Re: RIAA demonstrates "scarcity maintenance" business practice in an info economy

2003-08-14 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Judge Rejects Subpoenas in Music-Use Case Aug 8, 10:21 PM BOSTON (AP) - A federal judge rejected an attempt by the recording industry to uncover the names of Boston College and MIT students suspected of online music piracy. U.S. District Judge Joseph L. Tauro said Friday that under federal rule

Buffett joins team Terminator

2003-08-14 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Buffett joins team Terminator By BARRIE McKENNA >From Thursday's Globe and Mail Aug. 14, 2003 Washington — Decried by pundits as a political circus, the colourful race to recall California Governor Gray Davis is suddenly attracting some big-time talent. U.S. President George W. Bush is schedule

Re: Green

2003-08-14 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Jim writes about the classic Marx v Bakunin battle of anarchism and intelligent socialism. I can never disagree with Karl, because he was just too damn smart. Never took a position based on his own interests and fudged the rest. But in this particular battle of definitions, I agree with all the

Fast Company magazine

2003-08-14 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Fast Company's New Life in the Slow Lane By DAVID CARR New York Times August 11, 2003 Fast Company, a magazine that advocated a business revolution, was first published more than eight years ago on the verge of one. That revolution, fomented by digital technologies and soaring stock prices, came

Re: Green

2003-08-14 Thread Kenneth Campbell
I wrote: >> But in this particular battle of definitions, I agree with >> all the Yoshies out there. They call "anarchism" what Mr. >> Marx would call "democracy." > >I think it's useful to avoid mushing concepts together that way. I don't see that as "mushing." I see it as evolving language. Bu

Re: US war against Iraq post-mortem

2003-08-14 Thread Kenneth Campbell
"General Winter" won three in Russia. But I wonder if all three were not really won by "Russian feudalism." Feudalist culture (declining or not) had the singular ability to absorb massive blows to the communications infrastructure without collapsing. (That's why they had fiefdoms... and created k

Degrees of Separation Are Likely More Than 6, Especially in E-Mail Age

2003-08-14 Thread Kenneth Campbell
I always like to see the words "urban myth" used when talking about academics. So much of accepted stuff is "legendary." The connectedness of the world via the Net was always lauded in academia and SEC prospective alike. While I think Stanley Milgram was brilliant, things ain't really that differe

Re: Guardian Unlimited | The Guardian | Study of Bush's psyche touches a nerve

2003-08-14 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Geez, Jim... This should be some kind of Lefty U. screening test. Ken. -- The advantage of a bad memory is that one enjoys several times the same good things for the first time. -- Friedrich Nietzsche >Devine, James wrote: >> what kind of neurosis -- or psychosis -- do we leftists su

Re: Reply to an Observer article by the Italian Refounded CP

2003-08-14 Thread Kenneth Campbell
August 11, 2003 1:56 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Reply to an Observer article by the Italian >Refounded CP > > >Kenneth Campbell wrote: >> Lou -- >> >> I hesitate to write... but I must state... >> >> I know you are smart... But these

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