Thanks a lot for the gesture, and to Michael also. I will be on my way soon,
hounded off the list--nope, I am never hounded, I am done for the nonce.
Doesn't matter. This kind of hostility wears off. I must remember just how
hard it is to really deal with issues of ideology and evolution.
I hop
If truth is whole, Hegelian truth would do well to be studied in the context
of the whole of German philosophy, if not world philosophy. The sudden
re-start, in medias res, in the wake of Kant and the mysterious decade of the
1790's as Kant's system is a) transcended b) plundered of the mummy st
In a message dated 6/2/2001 1:57:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hegel is definitely a believer in conflict. He dared to undertake a
consummation of Philosophy, Western and Eastern. He embraced the
resulting conflict despite finding it disturbing. Maybe his search for
the
As I recall, Thrasymachus says that justiice is the interest of the stronger
not the right of the stronger. Why would you read it as a statement about
the right of the peasantry and artisans to participate in politics. Surely
Thrasymachus did not take them as the stronger. Thrasymachus and Protago
In a message dated 6/2/2001 1:57:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hegel is definitely a believer in conflict. He dared to undertake a
consummation of Philosophy, Western and Eastern. He embraced the
resulting conflict despite finding it disturbing. Maybe his search for
the
Hegel is definitely a believer in conflict. He dared to undertake a
consummation of Philosophy, Western and Eastern. He embraced the
resulting conflict despite finding it disturbing. Maybe his search for
the Absolute was a process of reconciliation, a bereavement over the
ideals lost by the contem
Jim Devine wrote:
>
> > > What is the whole? How could we possibly test/verify/falsify Hegel's
> > > assertion [that the truth -- or the true -- is the whole]?
>
> I liked Carrol's answer, but I have my own. Hegel's assertion is more a way
> of testing/verifying/falsifying theories than
> > What is the whole? How could we possibly test/verify/falsify Hegel's
> > assertion [that the truth -- or the true -- is the whole]?
I liked Carrol's answer, but I have my own. Hegel's assertion is more a way
of testing/verifying/falsifying theories than it is an assertion of truth.
I
Ian Murray wrote:
>
> >LARGE CLIP]
>
> What is the whole? How could we possibly test/verify/falsify Hegel's
> assertion? It was Protagoras who said "man is the measure..."
>
There are multiple answers to this. One is that you can't not believe
it. You see the line you are now rea
Hi Ian, Ken and Andrew,
>What is the whole? How could we possibly test/verify/falsify Hegel's
>assertion? It was Protagoras who said "man is the measure..."
>
>Ian
True enough, Protagoras said it. Aristotle just wrote it down. Kinda like
Socrates and Plato, I would've thought.
Ken, I take n
>Actually, Hegel's phrase is "Das Wahre ist das Ganze", meaning "the true is
>the whole".
There is no beginning in Hegel's philosophy. To grasp one part is to
grasp, by necessity, all of it. My German is too patchy to make sense
of the article without Babelfish. I'd have to agree, though, on t
As I recall, it is Protagoras who claims that man is the measure of all
things rather than Aristotle.
What is "neo-eleusinian"?Concepts of change and progress are crucial to
Hegel's views as far as I can make any sense of them whereas Parmenides
denies the reality of change. Although a rationalist
> (Coming in on this thread late, here, sorry, just got back on the
list this
> morning)
>
> >"Die Wahrheit ist die Ganze" will translate as "The truth is the
whole." I
> >am pretty sure that is how Miller does it. --jks
>
>
> Actually, Hegel's phrase is "Das Wahre ist das Ganze", meaning "the
(Coming in on this thread late, here, sorry, just got back on the list this
morning)
>"Die Wahrheit ist die Ganze" will translate as "The truth is the whole." I
>am pretty sure that is how Miller does it. --jks
Actually, Hegel's phrase is "Das Wahre ist das Ganze", meaning "the true is
the w
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From: Carrol Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>How do you interpret this distinction? A guess: Diesing's translation
>emphasizes that "the truth" as a static entity does not exist but is
>rather a constantly changing process, with which it is possible (more or
>less) to al
Jim Devine wrote:
>
> At 11:19 AM 05/30/2001 +0300, you wrote:
> >Jim Devine writes:
> >
> >As Baran & Sweezy quote Hegel to say, "the truth is the whole."
> >
> >=
> >
> >According to Paul Diesing, this should actually read "the true is the
> >whole".
> >
> >Michael K.
>
> does it truly mat
At 12:46 PM 5/30/01 -0400, you wrote:
>Keaney Michael wrote:
>
>>Jim Devine writes:
>>
>>As Baran & Sweezy quote Hegel to say, "the truth is the whole."
>>
>>=
>>
>>According to Paul Diesing, this should actually read "the true is the
>>whole".
>
>And of course Adorno said "the whole is the fa
Keaney Michael wrote:
>Jim Devine writes:
>
>As Baran & Sweezy quote Hegel to say, "the truth is the whole."
>
>=
>
>According to Paul Diesing, this should actually read "the true is the
>whole".
And of course Adorno said "the whole is the false."
Doug
Well, according to Tim Horton's "the hole is the Timbit."
>Jim Devine writes:
>
>As Baran & Sweezy quote Hegel to say, "the truth is the whole."
>
>=
>
>According to Paul Diesing, this should actually read "the true is the
>whole".
>
>Michael K.
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"Die Wahrheit ist die Ganze" will translate as "The truth is the whole." I
am pretty sure that is how Miller does it. --jks
>
>At 11:19 AM 05/30/2001 +0300, you wrote:
>>Jim Devine writes:
>>
>>As Baran & Sweezy quote Hegel to say, "the truth is the whole."
>>
>>=
>>
>>According to Paul Die
At 11:19 AM 05/30/2001 +0300, you wrote:
>Jim Devine writes:
>
>As Baran & Sweezy quote Hegel to say, "the truth is the whole."
>
>=
>
>According to Paul Diesing, this should actually read "the true is the
>whole".
>
>Michael K.
does it truly matter?
Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] & http://bel
How do you interpret this distinction? A guess: Diesing's translation
emphasizes that "the truth" as a static entity does not exist but is
rather a constantly changing process, with which it is possible (more or
less) to align the mind, but that alignment will be more or less untrued
just as it oc
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