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On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 02:02:45AM -0700, ToddAndMargo wrote:
> Remembering from my school days, a famous mathematician
> whose name I forget came up with a formula as a kid
> that made math history.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Friedrich_Gauss
greetings,
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On Sun, Jun 03, 2018 at 03:05:33PM -0700, ToddAndMargo wrote:
> On 06/03/2018 02:54 PM, Brad Gilbert wrote:
> > But in this case it is even better to use -I and -M
> >
> > p6 -I. -MRunNoShell -e '( my $a, my $b ) =
> > RunNoShell::RunNoShell("ls *.pm6"); say $a;'
>
> $ perl6
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On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 02:23:44AM -0700, ToddAndMargo wrote:
> So, the main issue I have with the docs is that they
> "seem" to be written as a refresher for an advanced use
> and not as a trainer for a newbie.
I guess that's because the docs are meant as a reference, and not as a
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On Tue, May 01, 2018 at 04:03:24PM +, Fernando Santagata wrote:
> I guess there are more ways to do that than I can count :-)
Which reminds me of http://paris.mongueurs.net/aplusplus.html
Greetings,
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Hi,
The deadline to submit Hackathon
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On Tue, Jul 18, 2006 at 12:27:30PM +0200, Steffen Mueller wrote:
we had a discussion about distributions with broken versions of
Module::Install. Using Module::CPANTS::Kwalitee::* as models I wrote a
simple plugin that calculates a Kwalitee metric uses_broken_installer.
Cool!
Maybe
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On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 09:51:06PM +0200, Philippe BooK Bruhat wrote:
Le mardi 23 mai 2006 ? 21:56, Thomas Klausner ?crivait:
And no, I won't take the fun out of CPANTS.
Then why did you filter out the Acme modules from the prereq lists? Mmm?
For example, see http
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On Fri, May 26, 2006 at 11:35:14PM +1000, Adam Kennedy wrote:
What the hell is the run thing in the latest run... is the run just
half-way through or something?
that was a bug in the templates. resolved now.
(FYI: 'run' stores when the data was analysed (using what version of
cpants))
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On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 09:51:06PM +0200, Philippe BooK Bruhat wrote:
Le mardi 23 mai 2006 ? 21:56, Thomas Klausner ?crivait:
And no, I won't take the fun out of CPANTS.
Then why did you filter out the Acme modules from the prereq lists? Mmm?
For example, see http
Hi!
I missed most of this discussion due to work and a very important
shopping trip to IKEA (well, maybe not that important, but I'll let you
argue this out with my girlfriend...)
I'm also a bit exhausted now, so here are just some semi-random comments
on this thread:
- I think the biggest
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On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 09:01:19PM +0300, Gabor Szabo wrote:
I checked it again, one can download the source code of their service
from here http://validator.w3.org/source/
and it is even packaged in some of the linux distros.
(It is of course slightly outdated on Debian)
Someone
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On Sat, Mar 18, 2006 at 06:12:37PM +1100, Adam Kennedy wrote:
I'd like to propose a Kwalitee test installed_not_executable be added
for which you get the Kwalitee point if and only if:
1) Both Makefile.PL and Build.PL (if they exist) are not executable
2) Both Makefile.PL and
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On Thu, Feb 16, 2006 at 08:02:27AM +0100, Andreas J. Koenig wrote:
I've just opened a ticket on RT about the issue.
A new version is on it's way to CPAN.
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I finally found some tuits to work on CPANTS again. As the previous
implementation had some drawbacks, I started from scratch, and from
another direction.
I just uploaded Module::CPANTS::Analyse to CPAN. MCA contains most of
the previous Kwalitee indicators and some code to check if one
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On Mon, Oct 31, 2005 at 08:34:09AM -0600, Chris Dolan wrote:
To encourage authors to correct this oversight, I propose a new pair
of Kwalitee tests. Both would be nice, but if either of them were
implemented, I'd be thrilled. I'd prefer that someone else implement
the test (lack
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On Tue, Oct 04, 2005 at 04:15:45PM +0100, Dave Cross wrote:
Dear List,
In Perl Testing - A Developers Notebook it has a section on
Test::Kwalitee.
..
Actually the book strongly suggests that it's a real module which runs
the Kwalitee checks on your code
..
That's from section
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On Wed, Sep 28, 2005 at 12:41:31PM +0100, Gavin Henry wrote:
I have just re-read the summary of this list;
A list for discussing and planning CPANTS, the quality assurance effort
for CPAN modules.
and realised this is the wrong list for my last post.
No it's not.
The summary should
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On Fri, Sep 23, 2005 at 12:54:42PM +1000, Adam Kennedy wrote:
Collecting any sort of coverage data is a complete bitch. Let me just
say right now that doing it across _all_ of CPAN is flat out impossible.
It's impossible.
I completly agree.
Now, if somebody sets up a system to
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On Wed, Sep 21, 2005 at 11:58:36AM +0200, David Landgren wrote:
To me, this is a mark of Quality. It would be good to have it as a
Kwalitee metric, but I see no easy way. The simplest way I can see would
be to have a META.yml key that contains a URI to the HTML D::C report. I
would
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On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 08:18:17PM -0500, Andy Lester wrote:
Can someone please write up a paragraph and a link that I can put up
on qa.perl.org's front page?
Took me a bit longer than planned, but renovating our new appartment sucks
up a lot of time...
Anyway, I rewrote some of the
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On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 08:18:17PM -0500, Andy Lester wrote:
For all the activity going on with CPANTS, we have nothing on
qa.perl.org that refers to it.
Can someone please write up a paragraph and a link that I can put up
on qa.perl.org's front page?
I'll wirte up something a
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On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 12:24:26PM +0200, Tels wrote:
The cpants analysis fails to recognise this as valid. What is it
looking for and/or could it be taught to look for this? I thought that
it was only looking for a string eval of use Test::Pod.
I would like to know the same. I do
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On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 11:48:02AM +0200, David Landgren wrote:
Seriously though, I have a module whose test suite includes Test::Pod
and Test::Pod::Coverage, except that I use the following construct:
SKIP: {
skip( 'Test::Pod not installed on this system', 1 )
unless do
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On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 09:30:03PM +0200, David Landgren wrote:
Yeah, but I'm loathe to dedicate two separate test files merely to score
two points of Kwalitee. As it is, I'd just much rather bundle both tests
in a 00_basic.t file along with all the other standard no-brainer tests.
I'm
Hi!
Data using the new metric 'has_changelog' is now available from
http://cpants.perl.org
Thanks again to Adam Kennedy, H.Merijn Brand and Smylers for various
suggestions/help with 'has_changelog'.
I've also added suggestions to improve ones kwalitee. For each metric I
wrote up a short
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On Fri, Sep 16, 2005 at 09:23:10AM +1000, Adam Kennedy wrote:
Yeah, something like that. Changes, for a suitably flexible value of
Changes
I implemented this in CPANTS. It will be in the next release (tomorrow),
results should be available on Sunday morning.
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On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 11:52:00AM +1000, Adam Kennedy wrote:
Rather than do any additional exploding, I'd like to propose the
additional kwalitee test has_changes. I've noticed that a percentage
(5-10%) of dists don't have a changes file, so it can be hard to know
whether it's worth
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On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 05:53:17PM +0200, Tels wrote:
Shhh, dont tell anybody about my plan to hack the cpants webserver and
silently raising my K rating to +inf :)
I've heard that.
/me changes root passwd from 'toor' to '3l1+3'
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On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 03:13:31PM +0300, G?bor Szab? wrote:
On 9/7/05, David Golden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
a) all tests are relevant
b) all tests matter equally (are equally weighted)
c) higher score means higher quality
The scores are available in the database. There's no
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On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 05:31:37AM +1000, Andrew Savige wrote:
flame wars. Best, at least for now, is to simply publish some
kwalitee metrics as an optional aid to enthusiastic CPAN authors.
If they prove good and useful, they will naturally become better known.
Some of my recent
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On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 03:43:02PM +1000, Adam Kennedy wrote:
I know the whole kwalitee thing sort of stalled out at 17 tests, but
what would be involved in adding some more? There's obviously been
enough interest from people trying to boost their
You might be aware that I did a talk at
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On Sun, Jul 10, 2005 at 09:47:43AM -0700, chromatic wrote:
I have an unreleased module that runs the kwalitee tests and reports the
results. It works somewhat like Test::Pod and Test::Pod::Coverage.
I haven't tested it with the latest release of M::C::G; domm said there
might be some
.
More info, schedule, etc here:
http://conferences.yapceurope.org/apw2005/
Hope to see you in Vienna,
Thomas Klausner
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On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 05:18:45PM +0200, Juerd wrote:
Everyone who wants, can get a login.
me too! 'domm' please.
Also, this new machine needs a hostname. Please help me think of a cute
name! I prefer a short hostname with less than 9 letters.
onion
Access to this machine would also
Hi!
There will be a Parrot/PUGS Hack-a-thon at the Austrian Perl Workshop, which
takes place on 9th and 10th June in Vienna, Austria.
Autrijus Tang, Chip Salzenberg and Leo Toetsch will be there. You should be
there too :-)
More information on the workshop etc is available here:
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On Thu, Apr 07, 2005 at 01:17:40PM +1000, Adam Kennedy wrote:
Adding a kwalitee check for a test that runs Devel::Cover by default
might on the surface appear to meet this goal, but I hope people
recognize it as a bad idea.
Why, then, is suggesting that people ship tests for POD errors
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On Thu, Apr 07, 2005 at 01:29:40PM +1000, Adam Kennedy wrote:
I did most of what you asked for on thursday, but in a hurry, so it might be
buggy..
Where's the per-module page on CPANTS that lists these simple check/fail?
http://cpants.dev.zsi.at/metrics/
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On Mon, Apr 04, 2005 at 10:32:14AM +0100, David Cantrell wrote:
Thomas Klausner wrote:
I cannot check POD coverage because Pod::Coverage executes the code.
No it doesn't.
Yes, it does.
Pod::Coverage uses Devel::Symdump to get a list of all subs.
That said, if you don't want to run
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On Sun, Mar 27, 2005 at 11:40:45AM +0100, Tony Bowden wrote:
There are now two kwalitee tests for 'has_test_pod' and
'has_test_pod_coverage'. These check that there are test scripts for
POD correctness and POD coverage.
Actually they check if Test::Pod and Test::Pod::Coverage are used in
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On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 10:59:04AM -0800, chromatic wrote:
Why, then, is suggesting that people ship tests for POD errors and
coverage a good idea?
I'm not 100% sure if it's a good idea, but it's an idea.
But then, if I write some test (eg to check pod coverage), why should I not
ship
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On Wed, Mar 23, 2005 at 04:39:50PM +0100, Leopold Toetsch wrote:
In the nest french perl workshop, I will explain why such a language is
able to help us in our pedagogy.
If it's that workshop that runs in parallel with the Vienna one, then
we'll meet via live broadcast, hopefully.
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On Mon, Dec 27, 2004 at 12:33:36AM +0100, S?bastien Aperghis-Tramoni wrote:
Oops! I didn't include the list on my first reply.
But on the other hand I have completed the analysis. So here is the
final list:
http://rafb.net/paste/results/p4hveb43.html
I haven't got any time in the
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The URL
http://domm.zsi.at/download/Module-CPANTS-Generator-0.22.tar.gz
has entered CPAN as
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The uploaded file
Module-CPANTS
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On Fri, Jul 23, 2004 at 08:41:58AM +0200, James Mastros wrote:
- Having POD
- Not having the POD that h2xs puts in
I wonder how many dists are authored by R.U. Thor :-)
- Having a README
thats allready covered.
BTW, I tend to think that modules that require lots of other things
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On Mon, Jul 19, 2004 at 12:12:39AM -0400, Robert Rothenberg wrote:
I have a prototype Perl script that will determine the dependencies of a
given CPAN distribution, and then check CPAN Testers for any failure
reports of that distro or dependent distros for a given platform.
Sounds a
Hi!
I ran CPANTS today, you can view results here:
http://cpants.dev.zsi.at/
( or http://test1.dev.zsi.at if DNS isn't updated..)
in /metrics there is a yaml-file for each dist
cpants.db (or cpants.db.gz) is a SQLite DB file
Oh, there might be a bug, because 100 dists didn't get any
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On Thu, Jul 22, 2004 at 05:25:38PM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote:
Max Kwalitee is 10, which is reached by 99 dists.
Will it go up to eleven soon? :-)
as I'm planning to go on vacation next week, probably not...
is_prereq (is listed as PREREQ by at least 3 other dists)
Is it
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On Sun, Jul 11, 2004 at 09:14:28AM +0100, Tony Bowden wrote:
For a slightly easier approach, Module::CPANTS has a
'requires_recursive' method which lists all the dependencies, and all
their dependencies, etc.
Well it had this information, but currently it hasn't. But it will have it
Hi!
I've got a soon-to-be-large testsuite (based on Test::More) that's testing
(among other things) a DB. The tests are in various different small files.
If there is a problem with the DB, I want the whole testsuite to stop,
instead of running a lot of sure-to-fail tests.
Is there a way to
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On Mon, Feb 23, 2004 at 05:01:54PM +, Adrian Howard wrote:
On Monday, February 23, 2004, at 02:40 PM, Thomas Klausner wrote:
[snip]
Is there a way to abort a whole testsuite?
[snip]
Yup. Take a look at BAILOUT in Test::Builder. Doing:
Test::More-builder-BAILOUT
should
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See you!
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Finally, here's my first release of Module::CPANTS::Generator, a framework
to test all distributions on CPAN for 'kwalitee'.
It should be easier to use and run, it should be easer to add new metrics
and different ways to report results. On the downside, it currently includes
less metrics
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On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 01:24:40PM -0500, Adam Foxson wrote:
I suggested that it might be a sane idea to consider starting a project who's
mission would be to take over the maintenance of distributions that, for lack
of criteria with greater specificity:
a) are popular, well-used
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On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 10:09:04PM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote:
Something I'd be curious about:
Modules with lower case names which aren't pragmas.
(although how you determine this is hard)
Well, here's a list of lowercase dist on CPAN (238 dists). Quite a lot of
those are in fact
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On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 09:42:21PM -, Rafael Garcia-Suarez wrote:
Thomas Klausner wrote in perl.qa :
Well, here's a list of lowercase dist on CPAN (238 dists). Quite a lot of
those are in fact real distributions (eg. perl, parrot). In fact I think
that perl itself shouldn't
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On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 02:57:34AM -0700, Michael G Schwern wrote:
On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 10:28:29AM +0200, Thomas Klausner wrote:
* contains files:
* Makefile.PL or Build.PL or configure
configure?
there are currently 4 dists on CPAN that only include a configure script
(makepp
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On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 07:46:02PM +0200, Tels wrote:
* POD/Code ratio (what would be a good measurement?)
No. Some _very_ complex code takes little documentation like:
Agreed.
Probably something like:
*.pm file has more than 1000 lines of code = bad
:-)
CPANTS
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On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 05:53:15PM -, Rafael Garcia-Suarez wrote:
* POD/Code ratio (what would be a good measurement?)
use Pod::Coverage ?
As far as I know, Pod::Coverage compiles the module, which makes it not
suitable for CPANTS.
OTOH, it might be an interesting idea to allow
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On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 03:24:22PM +0100, Leon Brocard wrote:
Thomas Klausner sent the following bits through the ether:
OTOH, it might be an interesting idea to allow CPANTS to compile code (and
thus use stuff like Devel::Cover) if not testing the whole of CPAN, but
linting one
Hi!
CPANTS and Phalanx both care about Kwalitee. So I thought it might be a good
idea to come up with one more or less complete list of Kwalitee-hints that
both projects can use.
A lot of the hints listed at http://qa.perl.org/phalanx/kwalitee.html are
rather vague, which is OK for Phalanx, as
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On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 10:48:11PM -0500, Andy Lester wrote:
The Phalanx project has started its rampup to an official
announcement. Phalanx is going to beef up the tests, coverage and
docs on Perl and 100 heavily-used modules from CPAN.
Have you got an plans on combining Phalanx and
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On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 04:00:44PM +0100, Tony Bowden wrote:
I'd certainly like to see something like this worked on. We do a lot of
this stuff automagically as part of our RCS anyway - people can't check
in code that doesn't pass certain guidelines (all public methods
documented etc.)
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On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 11:25:14PM +1000, Andrew Savige wrote:
It doesn't have to eval the whole of CPAN to be useful.
I see the mythical Module::Scrutinize as perhaps a little orthogonal
to Module::CPANTS, as something that may help individual CPAN authors
produce a higher quality
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On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 08:53:18AM +0200, Leopold Toetsch wrote:
May I ask: What is ponie?
Ponie is a version of Perl 5 that will run on Parrot. It was announced
yesterday by Larry Wall at OSCON (if i interpret various journal entries on
use.perl.org correctly..)
See here for more info:
Hi!
During YAPC::Europe and all the great Perl 6 talks there, I started
thinking about doing a Perl 6 JAPH / Obfuscation.
So I downloaded parrot (twice, once from CPAN, which is broken, and
then from CVS, which worked..), installed it and came up with this rather
simple JAPH:
p
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