Greg Smith g...@2ndquadrant.com writes:
The last time I tried to do this a few years ago I failed miserably and
never came back. I know way more about building software now though,
and just got this to work for the first time.
BTW, another thing that should be in the try-try-again category
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 6:25 AM, Jesper Krogh jes...@krogh.cc wrote:
Getting the value for the first sortkey and carrying on a closure
for the rest would mostly (very often) be optimal ?
Well that might depend. The input data to the function might be much
larger than the output. Consider the,
On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 21:06:17 -0400, Robert Haas wrote:
On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 5:32 PM, Radosław Smogura
rsmog...@softperience.eu wrote:
Each process has simple mirror of shared descriptors.
I believe that modifications to buffer content may be only done
when holding
exclusive lock (with some
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 1:26 AM, Jaime Casanova ja...@2ndquadrant.com wrote:
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com wrote:
I discovered while fooling around the other night that the named
restore point patch introduced a small bug into recoveryStopsHere():
the test
On 04/18/2011 12:48 AM, Greg Smith wrote:
Andrew Dunstan wrote:
Now we could certainly make this quite a bit slicker. Apart from
anything else, we should change the indent source code tarball so it
unpacks into its own directory. Having it unpack into the current
directory is ugly and
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 10:56 PM, Pavel Stehule pavel.steh...@gmail.com wrote:
2011/4/15 Jim Nasby j...@nasby.net:
On Apr 14, 2011, at 4:20 PM, Kevin Grittner wrote:
Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote:
Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com writes:
So far the most promising proposal I've seen
I think I coded a very basic version of the UNLOGGED to LOGGED patch
(only wal_level=minimal case for the moment).
To remove the INIT fork, I changed somehow PendingRelDelete to have
a flag bool onlyInitFork so that the delete would remove only the INIT
fork at commit.
Everything works (note the
I'm getting JDBC exceptions when I try to connect to 9.1 (master) with
the postgresql-9.0-801.jdbc3.jar I don't have this issue with 9.0.
There is nothing obvious at http://jdbc.postgresql.org or in the 9.1
alpha release notes that indicate a newer JDBC driver will be required.
Have other
Steve Singer ssin...@ca.afilias.info writes:
I'm getting JDBC exceptions when I try to connect to 9.1 (master) with
the postgresql-9.0-801.jdbc3.jar I don't have this issue with 9.0.
Hmm, what shows up in the postmaster log?
regards, tom lane
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--On 18. April 2011 09:44:38 -0400 Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote:
I'm getting JDBC exceptions when I try to connect to 9.1 (master) with
the postgresql-9.0-801.jdbc3.jar I don't have this issue with 9.0.
Hmm, what shows up in the postmaster log?
A quick check with an application here
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 9:38 PM, Noah Misch n...@leadboat.com wrote:
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 11:23:49AM -0700, Robert Haas wrote:
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 5:18 AM, Noah Misch n...@leadboat.com wrote:
I guess my gut feeling is that it would make more sense to forbid it
outright for 9.1, and we
On 11-04-18 09:44 AM, Tom Lane wrote:
Steve Singerssin...@ca.afilias.info writes:
I'm getting JDBC exceptions when I try to connect to 9.1 (master) with
the postgresql-9.0-801.jdbc3.jar I don't have this issue with 9.0.
Hmm, what shows up in the postmaster log?
On Mon, 2011-04-18 at 16:17 +0200, Bernd Helmle wrote:
Hmm, seems it stumbles while reading client_encoding
This is probably similar to what I had a couple weeks ago. With today's
new minor releases, I get:
$ psql
psql: invalid connection option client_encoding
(I was getting another
--On 18. April 2011 16:17:57 +0200 Bernd Helmle maili...@oopsware.de wrote:
16:09:47.942 (1) =BE ParameterStatus(client_encoding = UTF8)
org.postgresql.util.PSQLException: Protocol error. Session setup failed.
at
Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com writes:
[ assorted comments on original issues ]
I believe that all the collation issues I complained about on 26 March
are now resolved, except for the question of getting some more test
cases, and the question of adding a cares-about-collation flag to
pg_proc.
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 10:20:21AM -0400, Robert Haas wrote:
I tweaked the comments accordingly, and also reverted your change to
the error message, because I don't want to introduce new terminology
here that we're not using anywhere else.
FWIW, the term stand-alone composite type appears
Bernd Helmle maili...@oopsware.de writes:
If i am reading it correct, it reads UTF8 from the backend, while
expecting UNICODE only. Not sure what change has caused this,
though.
I am --- when I redid the GUC assign_hook logic a few weeks ago,
I changed the client_encoding code so that it shows
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Noah Misch n...@leadboat.com wrote:
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 10:20:21AM -0400, Robert Haas wrote:
I tweaked the comments accordingly, and also reverted your change to
the error message, because I don't want to introduce new terminology
here that we're not using
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 10:57 AM, Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote:
Bernd Helmle maili...@oopsware.de writes:
If i am reading it correct, it reads UTF8 from the backend, while
expecting UNICODE only. Not sure what change has caused this,
though.
I am --- when I redid the GUC assign_hook
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 10:57 AM, Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote:
Bernd Helmle maili...@oopsware.de writes:
If i am reading it correct, it reads UTF8 from the backend, while
expecting UNICODE only. Not sure what change has caused this,
though.
I am --- when I redid the GUC assign_hook
Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote:
I changed the client_encoding code so that it shows the normalized
(official) name of the encoding, not whatever random string the
client sent over. For instance, previous versions:
regression=# set client_encoding = 'UnIcOdE';
SET
The whole area of
On 18/04/11 15:57, Tom Lane wrote:
Bernd Helmlemaili...@oopsware.de writes:
If i am reading it correct, it reads UTF8 from the backend, while
expecting UNICODE only. Not sure what change has caused this,
though.
I am --- when I redid the GUC assign_hook logic a few weeks ago,
I changed the
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Mike Fowler m...@mlfowler.com wrote:
On 18/04/11 15:57, Tom Lane wrote:
Bernd Helmlemaili...@oopsware.de writes:
If i am reading it correct, it reads UTF8 from the backend, while
expecting UNICODE only. Not sure what change has caused this,
though.
I am
Dave Cramer p...@fastcrypt.com writes:
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 10:57 AM, Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote:
I wasn't aware that JDBC would fail on that. It's pretty annoying that
it does, but maybe we should grin and bear it, ie revert the change to
canonicalize the GUC's value?
Older
Mike Fowler m...@mlfowler.com writes:
On 18/04/11 15:57, Tom Lane wrote:
I am --- when I redid the GUC assign_hook logic a few weeks ago,
I changed the client_encoding code so that it shows the normalized
(official) name of the encoding, not whatever random string the client
sent over. For
Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com writes:
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Noah Misch n...@leadboat.com wrote:
FWIW, the term stand-alone composite type appears twice in our
documentation.
Hmm, OK. Anyone else have an opinion on the relative merits of:
ERROR: type stuff is not a
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote:
Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com writes:
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Noah Misch n...@leadboat.com wrote:
FWIW, the term stand-alone composite type appears twice in our
documentation.
Hmm, OK. Anyone else have an
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote:
Dave Cramer p...@fastcrypt.com writes:
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 10:57 AM, Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote:
I wasn't aware that JDBC would fail on that. It's pretty annoying that
it does, but maybe we should grin and bear
Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com writes:
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote:
What about inverting the message phrasing, ie
ERROR: type stuff must not be a table's row type
It also can't be a view's row type, a sequence's row type, a foreign
table's row
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote:
Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com writes:
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote:
What about inverting the message phrasing, ie
ERROR: type stuff must not be a table's row type
It also can't be
Dave Cramer p...@fastcrypt.com writes:
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote:
Yeah. I'm thinking what we should do here is revert the change, with a
note in the source about why, and also change the JDBC driver to send
and expect UTF8 not UNICODE (which as Kevin
Excerpts from Leonardo Francalanci's message of lun abr 18 09:36:13 -0300 2011:
I think I coded a very basic version of the UNLOGGED to LOGGED patch
(only wal_level=minimal case for the moment).
To remove the INIT fork, I changed somehow PendingRelDelete to have
a flag bool onlyInitFork so
Excerpts from Robert Haas's message of lun abr 18 09:33:06 -0300 2011:
I don't much like Jim's syntax suggestion (the alias really ought to
be declared within the function body, I think, not added to the CREATE
FUNCTION statement) but I don't necessarily think it's a bad idea.
What would be
On 04/18/2011 11:25 AM, Tom Lane wrote:
What concerns me most is that (assuming my dates are right) the JDBC driver
has been
broken for 11 days and no one noticed. This would lead me to believe
that there is no JDBC build server. What would it take to set one up?
+1 for doing something
On 2011-04-18 11:00, Greg Stark wrote:
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 6:25 AM, Jesper Kroghjes...@krogh.cc wrote:
Getting the value for the first sortkey and carrying on a closure
for the rest would mostly (very often) be optimal ?
Well that might depend. The input data to the function might be much
On 18/04/11 17:35, Andrew Dunstan wrote:
On 04/18/2011 11:25 AM, Tom Lane wrote:
What concerns me most is that (assuming my dates are right) the
JDBC driver has been
broken for 11 days and no one noticed. This would lead me to believe
that there is no JDBC build server. What would it take
Excerpts from Tom Lane's message of lun abr 18 02:50:22 -0300 2011:
Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com writes:
... Maybe someone out there is under the impression
that I get high off of rejecting patches; but the statistics you cite
from the CF app don't exactly support the contention that
Excerpts from Andrew Dunstan's message of sáb abr 16 21:46:44 -0300 2011:
The other, slightly more serious case, is at
src/test/regress/pg_regress.c:2280, which is this code:
printf(_(running on port %d with pid %lu\n),
port, (unsigned long) postmaster_pid);
Here the
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Alvaro Herrera
alvhe...@commandprompt.com wrote:
Excerpts from Robert Haas's message of lun abr 18 09:33:06 -0300 2011:
I don't much like Jim's syntax suggestion (the alias really ought to
be declared within the function body, I think, not added to the CREATE
Robert, Tom,
Hm ... there are people out there who think *I* get high off rejecting
patches. I have a t-shirt to prove it. But I seem to be pretty
ineffective at it too, judging from these numbers.
It's a question of how we reject patches, especially first-time patches. We
can reject them
On 18/04/11 17:12, Tom Lane wrote:
Dave Cramerp...@fastcrypt.com writes:
Well initially my concern was that people would have a challenge in
the case where they had to re-certify their application if we made
this change, however I realize they will have to do this anyway since
upgrading to 9.1
On 4/18/11 10:57 AM, Robert Haas wrote:
So first of all, no it's not fixable with sed. But secondly, writing
*please* here seems to evince a level of frustration which is
entirely out of proportion to the really rather mild comments which
preceded it. What made you write it that way?
I'll
Does this mean we need an auction to get Robert a nice $1000 t-shirt?
... starting hunting through Robert's emails for a good quote ...
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To make changes to your
On Sat, 2011-04-09 at 21:57 -0400, Noah Misch wrote:
* Table row types used in typed tables vs. ALTER TABLE
This item was addressed, but the other ones were not, I think.
* Inheriting from a typed table blocks further type DDL
CREATE TYPE t AS (x int);
CREATE TABLE parent OF t;
CREATE
On Mon, 2011-04-18 at 10:41 -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
However, I've come across a new issue that maybe requires discussion:
what collation should be associated with a multi-row VALUES in FROM?
For instance, in
SELECT ... FROM
(VALUES (1, 'foo'), (2, 'bar' COLLATE C)) v(a,b),
This came from a review by Noah Misch a great while ago:
test= SELECT b FROM foo ORDER BY 1 COLLATE C;
ERROR: 42804: collations are not supported by type integer
According to SQL92, this should be supported. Do we want to bother? It
doesn't look hard to fix, so it's really only a question of
Peter Eisentraut pete...@gmx.net writes:
This came from a review by Noah Misch a great while ago:
test= SELECT b FROM foo ORDER BY 1 COLLATE C;
ERROR: 42804: collations are not supported by type integer
According to SQL92, this should be supported. Do we want to bother? It
doesn't look
On 04/18/2011 04:20 PM, Tom Lane wrote:
Peter Eisentrautpete...@gmx.net writes:
This came from a review by Noah Misch a great while ago:
test= SELECT b FROM foo ORDER BY 1 COLLATE C;
ERROR: 42804: collations are not supported by type integer
According to SQL92, this should be supported.
-Original Message-
From: pgsql-hackers-ow...@postgresql.org [mailto:pgsql-hackers-
ow...@postgresql.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Dunstan
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 1:43 PM
To: Tom Lane
Cc: Peter Eisentraut; pgsql-hackers
Subject: Re: [HACKERS] ORDER BY 1 COLLATE
On 04/18/2011 04:20
Hi,
Today (and previously) I wished that pgbench had a mechanism to help
create simple random databases. For example, I could create a table
tenk and fill it with random stuff like
\setrandom foo 1 1
insert into foo values (:foo)
Now I have to run this 1 times or something like that.
Andrew Dunstan and...@dunslane.net wrote:
It's likely to be used by SQL generators if nothing else, and I've
been known to use it as a very convenient shorthand. It would seem
to me like quite a strange inconsistency to allow order by n with
some qualifiers but not others.
That's pretty
Hackers,
We're short one mentor for Google Summer of Code. There's one advanced
indexing project we'd really really like to accept, but we cannot
because we don't have a mentor who feels up to it.
If you didn't previously volunteer to be a GSOC mentor, and might be
able to help a student
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 4:02 PM, Alvaro Herrera alvhe...@alvh.no-ip.org wrote:
Hi,
Today (and previously) I wished that pgbench had a mechanism to help
create simple random databases. For example, I could create a table
tenk and fill it with random stuff like
\setrandom foo 1 1
insert
Folks,
While readjusting pg_docbot's URLs for LEAST and GREATEST, I came
across an infelicity. They'd been tagged as
http://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/static/functions-conditional.html#AEN12680;
and I re-tagged them as
Excerpts from Merlin Moncure's message of lun abr 18 18:26:54 -0300 2011:
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 4:02 PM, Alvaro Herrera alvhe...@alvh.no-ip.org
wrote:
begin;
\for iterator 1 1
\setrandom foo 1 :iterator
insert into foo values (:foo);
\end
commit;
Would something like
Excerpts from David Fetter's message of lun abr 18 18:34:11 -0300 2011:
Folks,
While readjusting pg_docbot's URLs for LEAST and GREATEST, I came
across an infelicity. They'd been tagged as
http://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/static/functions-conditional.html#AEN12680;
and I re-tagged
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 5:38 PM, Jesper Krogh jes...@krogh.cc wrote:
order by case when (complex expresssion) 1 when (complex expression) 2
else 3
How come that expression be relevant? There is only one sortkey and no
limit, so no matter what it should clearly get the full resultset in all
Alvaro Herrera alvhe...@commandprompt.com writes:
Excerpts from Andrew Dunstan's message of sáb abr 16 21:46:44 -0300 2011:
The other, slightly more serious case, is at
src/test/regress/pg_regress.c:2280, which is this code:
printf(_(running on port %d with pid %lu\n),
port, (unsigned
On 04/17/2011 11:07 PM, Tom Lane wrote:
BTW, another thing that should be in the try-try-again category is
seeing how close we could get to pgindent's results with GNU indent.
It seems clear to me that a process based on GNU indent would be a
lot easier for a lot of people. We tried that once
Greg Stark gsst...@mit.edu writes:
A lot of SQL queries end up being written with GROUP BY primary_key,
other_column, other_column, other_column just to get those other
columns to be queryable. If we implemented the SQL standard
dependent columns feature this would be unnecessary but we don't
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Joshua Berkus j...@agliodbs.com wrote:
Robert, Tom,
Hm ... there are people out there who think *I* get high off rejecting
patches. I have a t-shirt to prove it. But I seem to be pretty
ineffective at it too, judging from these numbers.
It's a question of
Excerpts from Greg Stark's message of lun abr 18 15:47:03 -0300 2011:
A lot of SQL queries end up being written with GROUP BY primary_key,
other_column, other_column, other_column just to get those other
columns to be queryable. If we implemented the SQL standard
dependent columns feature
On 04/18/2011 01:46 PM, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
On 04/17/2011 11:07 PM, Tom Lane wrote:
BTW, another thing that should be in the try-try-again category is
seeing how close we could get to pgindent's results with GNU indent.
It seems clear to me that a process based on GNU indent would be a
Excerpts from Andrew Dunstan's message of lun abr 18 19:20:30 -0300 2011:
On 04/18/2011 01:46 PM, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
On 04/17/2011 11:07 PM, Tom Lane wrote:
BTW, another thing that should be in the try-try-again category is
seeing how close we could get to pgindent's results with
Alvaro Herrera alvhe...@commandprompt.com writes:
Excerpts from Andrew Dunstan's message of lun abr 18 19:20:30 -0300 2011:
On 04/17/2011 11:07 PM, Tom Lane wrote:
... but maybe it just needs
a more determined effort and/or more recent versions of GNU indent.
If you're aware of any changes
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 10:44:53PM +0300, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
On Sat, 2011-04-09 at 21:57 -0400, Noah Misch wrote:
* Users can CREATE TABLE OF on a type they don't own
This in turns blocks the owner's ability to alter the table/type. However,
we
already have this hazard with
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 11:58:30AM -0400, Noah Misch wrote:
When we're done with the relkind-restriction patch, I'll post a new version of
this one. It will remove the circularity check and add a relkind check.
Here it is. Changes from tt1v1-alter-of.patch to tt1v2-alter-of.patch:
* Use
On Mon, 18 Apr 2011, Mike Fowler wrote:
On 18/04/11 17:12, Tom Lane wrote:
Dave Cramerp...@fastcrypt.com writes:
Well initially my concern was that people would have a challenge in
the case where they had to re-certify their application if we made
this change, however I realize they will
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 3:17 PM, Josh Berkus j...@agliodbs.com wrote:
In any case, I think the answer to this is constructive; better
documentation and tools to let submitters get their code into good shape
in the first place so that we don't have discussions about formatting.
That way we
Robert,
1. We realize we have been too trigger-happy sometimes.
2. But we really want you to participate.
3. And we are trying very hard to do better.
4. And please tell us if we screw up, so we can keep working on it.
I received a private offlist email from someone who didn't feel
On 04/18/2011 06:38 PM, Robert Haas wrote:
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 3:17 PM, Josh Berkusj...@agliodbs.com wrote:
In any case, I think the answer to this is constructive; better
documentation and tools to let submitters get their code into good shape
in the first place so that we don't have
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 19:50, Josh Berkus j...@agliodbs.com wrote:
You'll notice that this has been a complaint of veteran contributors as
well; WIP patches either get no review, or get reviewed as if they were
expected to be committable.
I don't see this changing anytime in the future. We
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 9:50 PM, Josh Berkus j...@agliodbs.com wrote:
Robert,
1. We realize we have been too trigger-happy sometimes.
2. But we really want you to participate.
3. And we are trying very hard to do better.
4. And please tell us if we screw up, so we can keep working on it.
I
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 11:15 PM, Alex Hunsaker bada...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 19:50, Josh Berkus j...@agliodbs.com wrote:
You'll notice that this has been a complaint of veteran contributors as
well; WIP patches either get no review, or get reviewed as if they were
expected
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 11:50 PM, Christopher Browne cbbro...@gmail.com wrote:
Two items still undergoing work (collations, sync rep) weren't at that
level of readiness, needing some mere dusting off to make them
ready. Rather, they needed substantial examination and modification
before
Kris Jurka bo...@ejurka.com writes:
On Mon, 18 Apr 2011, Mike Fowler wrote:
As there seems to be a consensus forming for fixing the JDBC driver, I've
taken the liberty do so at the risk of being shot down. The patch is fairly
straightforward, just changing UNICODE to UTF8 in a number of
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