[Pharo-dev] R: from 2009's The "death" of Smalltalk to 2014's But Really, You Should Learn Smalltalk

Hi, instead of using the trivial 2 + 2 as ST example, for many years I have found more impressive: 5 factorial printString size and then to show factorial method, that is very easy to understand. IMHO it is ST’s essence of innovation and power. Lorenzo Da: Pharo-dev [

Re: [Pharo-dev] R: from 2009's The "death" of Smalltalk to 2014's But Really, You Should Learn Smalltalk

> On 12 Jan 2015, at 09:15, Lorenzo Schiavina wrote: > > Hi, > > instead of using the trivial 2 + 2 as ST example, for many years I have found > more impressive: 5 factorial printString size and then to show factorial > method, that is very easy to understand. > IMHO it is ST’s essence o

Re: [Pharo-dev] PNG in Artefact

Olivier wrote: >In fact, the PNG is converted to JPEG image before to be included in the PDF >file. >But the conversion process doesn't support transparency and sets a black >background. Jpeg doesn't have transparency. For browsers there is a hack. http://jim.studt.net/jpeg-alpha/ http://stacko

[Pharo-dev] R: R: from 2009's The "death" of Smalltalk to 2014's But Really, You Should Learn Smalltalk

Hi Sven, I find your observations absolutely reasonable; anyway, my point is to show the difference between "object" number and "normal" (I mean integer and floating point you find in "normal" languages)number. I have not seen the problem for many years so, maybe, at present is not the same, but I

Re: [Pharo-dev] R: R: from 2009's The "death" of Smalltalk to 2014's But Really, You Should Learn Smalltalk

> On 12 Jan 2015, at 10:55, Lorenzo Schiavina wrote: > > Hi Sven, > > I find your observations absolutely reasonable; anyway, my point is to show > the difference between "object" number and "normal" (I mean integer and > floating point you find in "normal" languages)number. > I have not seen t

[Pharo-dev] R: R: R: from 2009's The "death" of Smalltalk to 2014's But Really, You Should Learn Smalltalk

Yes Sven, we have so many advantages (logical and operational) we give for grant after ST! People that are using other (nice) languages are not even able to imagine. I remember a discussion I had about polymorphism with people from Borland about Pascal (a really good language). Maybe, this could

[Pharo-dev] GTInspector does not refresh printString

Hi GTInspector does not change the printString representation when we change the printOn:. Am I the only one to see this behavior? Stef

Re: [Pharo-dev] GTInspector does not refresh printString

Hi Stef, The inspector does not automatically update the string representation for now (as it does not automatically refresh-- the same discussion as the state view). It should however update the representation if you change printOn: and manually refresh/ inspect the object again. Just checked it

Re: [Pharo-dev] GT tool request

> On 12 Jan 2015, at 04:00, Tudor Girba wrote: > > Hi Stef, > > Thanks a lot for the detailed report. Comments inline. > > > > On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 9:11 PM, stepharo > wrote: > Hi > > I found the blue rectangle morph painful because it blocks me when I want to

Re: [Pharo-dev] athens font rendering and subpixel antialiasing

Weird… Both FT plugin and Athens use same library (even same instance)… but could be something on how cairo threats them what makes a difference, I suppose. Esteban > On 11 Jan 2015, at 18:43, Nicolai Hess wrote: > > Anyone knows, why the text rendering with athens (cairo) looks slightly > d

Re: [Pharo-dev] GT tool request

I share your experience. It often happen that I would like to copy and paste the result of a cmd-p action. Maybe if I do a cmd-c action on blue rectangle it can copy the printstring of it? Alexandre > Le 11 janv. 2015 à 17:11, stepharo a écrit : > > Hi > > I found the blue rectangle morph

Re: [Pharo-dev] GT tool request

Hi, Cmd+c does copy the text in the clipboard. Cheers, Doru On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > I share your experience. It often happen that I would like to copy and > paste the result of a cmd-p action. > Maybe if I do a cmd-c action on blue rectangle it can copy the p

Re: [Pharo-dev] athens font rendering and subpixel antialiasing

No idea, but it would be great to improve the situation with the Cairo integration. Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > On Jan 11, 2015, at 6:43 PM, Nicolai Hess wrot

Re: [Pharo-dev] Woden on Windows?

You should do: Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'PharoExtras' project: 'NBOpenGL'; package: 'ConfigurationOfNBOpenGL'; load. ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfNBOpenGL) project version: '3.0') load. Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'Pharo' project: 'OSWindow'; package: 'ConfigurationOfOSWindow'; load. (S

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo4] Slots can now be saved with MC

> On 11 Jan 2015, at 18:50, Chris Muller wrote: > > It has been a while since I read the paper, but my memory is that > Slots lets you define features and/or constraints on inst-var's. For > example, assigning default values or restricting the set of valid > values. > > This would probably be

Re: [Pharo-dev] Woden on Windows?

Hi I am also interested in the current status of Woden.I tried to follow the instructions from Alex (under Windows 7) and I get a: NBFFICallout>>error: 'Invalid option name WinUnicode, must begin with ''opt''' Any help is appreciated. Cheers Ricky On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Alexandre Ber

Re: [Pharo-dev] Woden on Windows?

By the way, the error I talked about is thrown when opening an example: WDFPSSimpleExample open Cheers Ricky On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 4:18 PM, Richard Wettel wrote: > Hi > > I am also interested in the current status of Woden.I tried to follow the > instructions from Alex (under Windows 7) and I

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoExtras > ImageWorker access

Now the monkey fails with a strange error.. did you change something? Errors and Failures - Exception: Error: External Image Failed: 32512 ClassMethodImageWorker handleForkedImageResultWithExitStatus: ImageWorker waitForForkedImage [...] in ImageWorker On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 8:58 AM,

[Pharo-dev] No more a single PDF for Updated PBE, why ?

UPBE used to have a single pdf output for all chapters and I see this is no longer offered, why is that ? it was really convenient

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoExtras > ImageWorker access

https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/14717/Monkey-Fails-always-with-Exception-Error-External-Image-Failed We need to fix this *fast* as we can not integrate anything anymore… (I mean we can, bu

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] 8d3c0a: 40439

Branch: refs/heads/4.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: 8d3c0ac845e94b27db65338c701841d4de01f3b9 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/8d3c0ac845e94b27db65338c701841d4de01f3b9 Author: Jenkins Build Server Date: 2015-01-12 (Mon, 12 Jan 2015

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

Branch: refs/tags/40439 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

Re: [Pharo-dev] PNG in Artefact

There's no need to convert a PNG to JPG at all. PNG's compression algorithm is supported via the Flate filter. The only problem with it is that it's just the IDAT section of the PNG file. But the rest can be embedded too: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/14220221/how-to-insert-transparent-png

Re: [Pharo-dev] No more a single PDF for Updated PBE, why ?

Hi Kilon, 2015-01-12 16:38 GMT+01:00 kilon alios : > UPBE used to have a single pdf output for all chapters and I see this is > no longer offered, why is that ? it was really convenient > I've just updated the CI config. You now have a directory named book-result that contains the full pdf. htt

Re: [Pharo-dev] No more a single PDF for Updated PBE, why ?

Thank you Luc On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 6:14 PM, Luc Fabresse wrote: > Hi Kilon, > > 2015-01-12 16:38 GMT+01:00 kilon alios : > >> UPBE used to have a single pdf output for all chapters and I see this is >> no longer offered, why is that ? it was really convenient >> > > I've just updated the CI c

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoExtras > ImageWorker access

This was the change in ImageWorker-BenComan.26.mcz... - Method: ImageWorker>>forkedImageCommand (in category 'accessing') - forkedImageCommand + ^ ' "' , Smalltalk vm command , '" "' , self forkedImageFile fullName , '" --no-quit'! - ^ Smalltalk vm command, ' "', self forkedImageFil

[Pharo-dev] What Logging framework for Pharo

hi all, Googling a bit for a logging framework in Pharo, I found sl4j, which sounds familiar to me. http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Log4s.html/Wiki I suppose the API is the same as the java package, as claimed by the project page. I wonder if anybody is using it , or has tried it and have an advi

Re: [Pharo-dev] What Logging framework for Pharo

There are lots of things. But Log4s works and yeah, it is similar to Log4j in concept. Phil On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 6:27 PM, Alain Rastoul wrote: > hi all, > > Googling a bit for a logging framework in Pharo, I found sl4j, which > sounds familiar to me. > http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Log4s.html

[Pharo-dev] [ANN] Visual Memory profiler

Dear Friends and Colleagues, We are happy to announce Memory Profiler, a new profiler for Pharo. This profiler gives a nice output that indicates the memory consumption along the method call graph. Consider the following piece of code: -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= (MSP profile: [ Ob

Re: [Pharo-dev] What Logging framework for Pharo

Le 12/01/2015 18:32, p...@highoctane.be a écrit : There are lots of things. Hi Phil, thank you, what things would you advice ? I'm not a java zealot, it's just that I found only that one, and that it works in Java without effort - I'd prefer not to do my own. But Log4s works and yeah, it is

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoExtras > ImageWorker access

> On 12 Jan 2015, at 14:11, Ben Coman wrote: > > This was the change in ImageWorker-BenComan.26.mcz... > > - Method: ImageWorker>>forkedImageCommand (in category 'accessing') > - > forkedImageCommand > + ^ ' "' , Smalltalk vm command , '" "' , self forkedImageFile fullName >

Re: [Pharo-dev] What Logging framework for Pharo

> On 12 Jan 2015, at 18:27, Alain Rastoul wrote: > > hi all, > > Googling a bit for a logging framework in Pharo, I found sl4j, which sounds > familiar to me. > http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Log4s.html/Wiki > > I suppose the API is the same as the java package, as claimed by the project > page

Re: [Pharo-dev] R: from 2009's The "death" of Smalltalk to 2014's But Really, You Should Learn Smalltalk

Hi Sebastian, Noel is actually my academic older brother (i.e., we had the same doctoral advisor). Noel's introduction is nice but it is to people who know how to program (specifically, Ruby programmers). That's useful. The Pharo books and YouTube videos do this very well. But, you also need to pr

Re: [Pharo-dev] What Logging framework for Pharo

Le 12/01/2015 18:56, Sven Van Caekenberghe a écrit : On 12 Jan 2015, at 18:27, Alain Rastoul wrote: hi all, Googling a bit for a logging framework in Pharo, I found sl4j, which sounds familiar to me. http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Log4s.html/Wiki I suppose the API is the same as the java pack

Re: [Pharo-dev] What Logging framework for Pharo

Le 12/1/15 18:56, Sven Van Caekenberghe a écrit : On 12 Jan 2015, at 18:27, Alain Rastoul wrote: hi all, Googling a bit for a logging framework in Pharo, I found sl4j, which sounds familiar to me. http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Log4s.html/Wiki I suppose the API is the same as the java package,

Re: [Pharo-dev] GTInspector does not refresh printString

Hi andrei The inspector does not automatically update the string representation for now (as it does not automatically refresh-- the same discussion as the state view). It should however update the representation if you change printOn: and manually refresh/ inspect the object again. Just checked

Re: [Pharo-dev] athens font rendering and subpixel antialiasing

Igor once explained to me that FreeType has the possibility to degrade fonts when the family does not provide it. Cairo does not have this possibility. Esteban I'm sure that the same code is used. FreeType is much more advanced than Cairo when it is about fonts. Stef Le 11/1/15 22:43, Nicolai

Re: [Pharo-dev] R: from 2009's The "death" of Smalltalk to 2014's But Really, You Should Learn Smalltalk

you mean 1000 factorial / factorial. Le 12/1/15 09:15, Lorenzo Schiavina a écrit : Hi, instead of using the trivial 2 + 2 as ST example, for many years I have found more impressive: 5 factorial printString size and then to show factorial method, that is very easy to understand. IM

Re: [Pharo-dev] Woden on Windows?

Hi Richard, this is an error from NativeBoost. Have a look at the previous methods back in the debugger stack. There must be one with a native Boost call including something like options: { WinUnicode }. Change this to optWinUnicode and try again.   I guess we now use "opt" prefix for Nativ

Re: [Pharo-dev] R: from 2009's The "death" of Smalltalk to 2014's But Really, You Should Learn Smalltalk

Le 12/1/15 19:08, J.F. Rick a écrit : Hi Sebastian, Noel is actually my academic older brother (i.e., we had the same doctoral advisor). Noel's introduction is nice but it is to people who know how to program (specifically, Ruby programmers). That's useful. The Pharo books and YouTube videos

Re: [Pharo-dev] What Logging framework for Pharo

Le 12/01/2015 19:11, stepharo a écrit : Le 12/1/15 18:56, Sven Van Caekenberghe a écrit : On 12 Jan 2015, at 18:27, Alain Rastoul wrote: hi all, Googling a bit for a logging framework in Pharo, I found sl4j, which sounds familiar to me. http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Log4s.html/Wiki I suppose

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo4] Slots can now be saved with MC

+ 1 Great post marcus. I want slots!!! and I want to have slot for caches because the analysis of guille showed that we have aroun 40 different caches in the system Stef Le 12/1/15 15:59, Marcus Denker a écrit : On 11 Jan 2015, at 18:50, Chris Muller wrote: It has been a while since I

Re: [Pharo-dev] What Logging framework for Pharo

If you need the pdf just ask we should put back the ci crushing pillar and producing pdf Le 12/1/15 19:25, Alain Rastoul a écrit : Le 12/01/2015 19:11, stepharo a écrit : Le 12/1/15 18:56, Sven Van Caekenberghe a écrit : On 12 Jan 2015, at 18:27, Alain Rastoul wrote: hi all, Googling a bit

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

Branch: refs/tags/40440 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] 3c2c4a: 40440

Branch: refs/heads/4.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: 3c2c4a69ecc39d713a04840130e53fbe548df6ca https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/3c2c4a69ecc39d713a04840130e53fbe548df6ca Author: Jenkins Build Server Date: 2015-01-12 (Mon, 12 Jan 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] GTInspector does not refresh printString

Hi Stef, On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 7:15 PM, stepharo wrote: > Hi andrei > > The inspector does not automatically update the string representation > for now (as it does not automatically refresh-- the same discussion as the > state view). > It should however update the representation if you chang

Re: [Pharo-dev] What Logging framework for Pharo

Le 12/01/2015 19:30, stepharo a écrit : If you need the pdf just ask we should put back the ci crushing pillar and producing pdf the text is readable even with tags, and figures in png and pdf, so it's ok for me, thanks anyway. may be time for me to try using pillar, I saw the doc of Damien Ca

Re: [Pharo-dev] What Logging framework for Pharo

Le 12/01/2015 18:56, Sven Van Caekenberghe a écrit : On 12 Jan 2015, at 18:27, Alain Rastoul wrote: hi all, Googling a bit for a logging framework in Pharo, I found sl4j, which sounds familiar to me. http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Log4s.html/Wiki I suppose the API is the same as the java pack

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo4] Slots can now be saved with MC

Hi Marcus, On Jan 12, 2015, at 6:59 AM, Marcus Denker wrote: > >> On 11 Jan 2015, at 18:50, Chris Muller wrote: >> >> It has been a while since I read the paper, but my memory is that >> Slots lets you define features and/or constraints on inst-var's. For >> example, assigning default values

Re: [Pharo-dev] GTInspector does not refresh printString

Hi Stef, On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 7:15 PM, stepharo wrote: > Hi andrei > > The inspector does not automatically update the string representation > for now (as it does not automatically refresh-- the same discussion as the > state view). > It should however update the representation if you cha

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo4] Slots can now be saved with MC

> On 09 Jan 2015, at 16:15, Marcus Denker wrote: > > Hi, > > After some searching for a solution… that does not break > backward-compatibility, I found a way to save classes that use > slots. > > - if a class just uses ivar Slots, it saves it 100% backward compatible (e.g. > loadable in oth

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo4] Slots can now be saved with MC

> > > I hope we'll also be able to follow a 5th direction, of allowing one to > specify a slice or a trait or a package that just adds an inst var to a class > instead of having to provide the whole class definition just to add an inst > var. > Yes! Marcus

Re: [Pharo-dev] athens font rendering and subpixel antialiasing

2015-01-12 19:19 GMT+01:00 stepharo : > Igor once explained to me that FreeType has the possibility to degrade > fonts when the family does not provide it. > Cairo does not have this possibility. > Esteban I'm sure that the same code is used. FreeType is much more > advanced than Cairo when it is

Re: [Pharo-dev] R: from 2009's The "death" of Smalltalk to 2014's But Really, You Should Learn Smalltalk

how nice! yes is a great intro to "change lanes" a bit more than learn anything. But that sparks stronger curiosity on experimenting After a intro like that, having a hackathon to actually do something would be ideal Most people just want to "build stuff" that can do the "cool tricks" It's al

Re: [Pharo-dev] What Logging framework for Pharo

Hi, You can details about beacon here: http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/beacon Cheers, Doru On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 7:52 PM, Alain Rastoul wrote: > Le 12/01/2015 18:56, Sven Van Caekenberghe a écrit : > > >> On 12 Jan 2015, at 18:27, Alain Rastoul wrote: >>> >>> hi all, >>> >>> Googli

Re: [Pharo-dev] GTInspector does not refresh printString

> On 12 Jan 2015, at 19:36, Andrei Chis wrote: > > Maybe we can try an intermediary solution until then where at least the Raw > presentation is updated at each step or using a timer. Yes, please. Better some solution now than none, even if better/newer stuff might come later one.

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo4] Slots can now be saved with MC

This is wonderful news, Marcus! Thanks for the hard, tedious (and too often overlooked) work, Doru On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 8:15 PM, Marcus Denker wrote: > Hi, > > After some searching for a solution… that does not break > backward-compatibility, I found a way to save classes that use > slots. >

Re: [Pharo-dev] What Logging framework for Pharo

Le 12 janv. 2015 21:17, "Tudor Girba" a écrit : > > Hi, > > You can details about beacon here: > http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/beacon > > Cheers, > Doru > > > > On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 7:52 PM, Alain Rastoul wrote: >> >> Le 12/01/2015 18:56, Sven Van Caekenberghe a écrit : >> >>> On

[Pharo-dev] Modifying methodDict breaks System Browser

Hi, After replacing the method of a class with an object of a class implementing the /run:with:in/ method, the context menu of the System Browser stops appearing, a debug context menu "Why you see this menu. Debug" pops up instead. After putting the original method back, the browser works again.

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

Branch: refs/tags/40441 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] a599e7: 40441

Branch: refs/heads/4.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: a599e7be90599f97100d5d9ebdc46181eedb0766 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/a599e7be90599f97100d5d9ebdc46181eedb0766 Author: Jenkins Build Server Date: 2015-01-12 (Mon, 12 Jan 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] What Logging framework for Pharo

Le 12/01/2015 21:17, Tudor Girba a écrit : Hi, You can details about beacon here: http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/beacon Thank you Tudor for the link, very interesting readings here. Trying StackSignal+GTInspector is simply amazing and deserves in depth exploration One day, I'll show t

Re: [Pharo-dev] What Logging framework for Pharo

First of all, I am not the developer of Log4s, but I have been using it for a while and I see no significant gain switching to SystemLogger or ZnLogEvent. As Alain said, it is based in Log4j, which has his own Wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Log4j I don't think there is too much sense

Re: [Pharo-dev] What Logging framework for Pharo

Hi Alain, You have a Log4s podcast here http://www.jarober.com/blog/blogView?entry=3509625595 and documentation here http://www.instantiations.com/docs/852/wwhelp/wwhimpl/js/html/wwhelp.htm#href=sg/log4s.530.8.html I have a real web application using Log4s here: http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/

Re: [Pharo-dev] What Logging framework for Pharo

Le 13/01/2015 07:03, Hernán Morales Durand a écrit : Hi Alain, You have a Log4s podcast here http://www.jarober.com/blog/blogView?entry=3509625595 and documentation here http://www.instantiations.com/docs/852/wwhelp/wwhimpl/js/html/wwhelp.htm#href=sg/log4s.530.8.html I have a real web app