Re: [Pharo-dev] GitFileTree - Git command not found (is which shell startup script is run when pharo launched from UI)

2015-02-03 Thread kilon alios
here some info I found http://serverfault.com/questions/16355/how-to-set-global-path-on-os-x On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 12:28 AM, Manfred Kröhnert < mkroehner...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 4:21 PM, Peter Uhnák wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Both .bashrc and .bash_profile are dir

Re: [Pharo-dev] Plague Doctor

2015-01-30 Thread kilon alios
sed windows. > > It's easier if you give it a try! > > On 30 Jan 2015, at 12:57, kilon alios wrote: > > Bare in mind that using Copyrighted images without the permission of the > author makes you liable to be sued. > > So what is Plague Doctor ? The smalltalkhub d

Re: [Pharo-dev] Create window group for Playground

2015-01-30 Thread kilon alios
personally I dont even understand why one would not want tabs, especially in such a heavy window orientated enviroment like Pharo. Sure if I better solution existed yes, but even in MacOS while mission control existed for quite some time (offers a bird eye view of opened windows) still Apple was fo

Re: [Pharo-dev] Create window group for Playground

2015-01-30 Thread kilon alios
you dont watch my video tutorials ? ;D here is one for window groups https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGJZeajjWGU&index=12&list=PLqbtQ7OkSta0ULYAd7Qdxof851ybh-_m_ I agree this one of the features that I really miss and I think I was the first one to report it in this least when Playground was ann

Re: [Pharo-dev] Metacello: Possible to detect updates in a Github repo ?

2015-01-28 Thread kilon alios
Thank you both, looks like this one will need some extra work from my part. I will have to postpone it for now because its not a a high priority as other things I planned but will definetly take a look at your pointers Dale and Serge links ASAP at least to get an idea about the direction I will be

[Pharo-dev] Metacello: Possible to detect updates in a Github repo ?

2015-01-27 Thread kilon alios
I was wondering how possible it is to check a github repo for new commits and compare it with the existing code to based on the Baseline loading of a Github repo to Pharo. Is it possible ? I want to make an updater for my project that will pop up a dialog to alert the user for new updates in my Gi

Re: [Pharo-dev] The Pharo Morphic book

2015-01-24 Thread kilon alios
I absolutely agree that incremental is the way to go, I am slow doer anyway ;) On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 9:26 PM, stepharo wrote: > > Le 19/1/15 22:21, kilon alios a écrit : > > Ok then I think the best way to do this is to start this in my own github > account then give yo

Re: [Pharo-dev] HELP WANTED: improve Dark Theme

2015-01-23 Thread kilon alios
I think roassal can do that On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > > On 23 Jan 2015, at 12:53, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > > https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=385003 > https://code.google.com/p/eclipse-svg-icons/ > > > cool! > now I have to figure out how to displ

Re: [Pharo-dev] WhatsUp from: 2015-01-19 until: 2015-01-31

2015-01-22 Thread kilon alios
great work, the Pharo documentation has been improving rapidly lately and this is great news for me and any newcomer to pharo. Will definetly take a look :) On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 5:39 AM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > - worked on Agile visualization. Several chapters have been added. Other > have

Re: [Pharo-dev] pharo-contribution CI out of space?

2015-01-19 Thread kilon alios
thanks Damien :) On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 7:58 AM, Damien Cassou wrote: > > kilon alios writes: > > > you can remove my job a book I named Pharo Universe , I no longer need > it, > > although it only contains the translated sound chapter which Stef has > > already

Re: [Pharo-dev] pharo-contribution CI out of space?

2015-01-19 Thread kilon alios
you can remove my job a book I named Pharo Universe , I no longer need it, although it only contains the translated sound chapter which Stef has already copied to the other book. If I remember correctly it was inside Pharo-Contribution. On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 11:03 PM, stepharo wrote: > Probabl

Re: [Pharo-dev] The Pharo Morphic book

2015-01-19 Thread kilon alios
Ok then I think the best way to do this is to start this in my own github account then give you guys the link , review the documentation and if you find satisfying add it to SquareBracketAssociates via forking it, if not I can still continue it with my github account. Of course I will use pillar an

[Pharo-dev] The Pharo Morphic book

2015-01-19 Thread kilon alios
Hello people, I am really interested since PBE seems to go very well to now concentrate on a project I had in mind for some time and it is to start a book on Pharo Morphic. My plan is to add it to github group SquareBracketAssociates which I am member of for contributing to the new PBE. Is that o

[Pharo-dev] Pharo books and Pharo website

2015-01-19 Thread kilon alios
In Twitter I saw earlier this week a link posted for all books of Pharo , some new ones too. Is it possible to have this link also in the Pharo website documentation section ? I think it will look very good for pharo to expose to newcomers all the hard work we are doing or have done with documenta

Re: [Pharo-dev] Fixing DNU binding in GT and Nautilus

2015-01-16 Thread kilon alios
Thank you Stef On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 11:57 PM, stepharo wrote: > DoesNotUnderstand > Le 15/1/15 19:37, kilon alios a écrit : > > what DNU means ? is it the same as MNU ? > > On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 6:07 PM, Andrei Chis > wrote: > >> Should be Alain's

Re: [Pharo-dev] InfoWorld on Redline Smalltalk

2015-01-16 Thread kilon alios
"I think we *really* need a smalltalk-talk mailing list…" I definetly not need it, I am far more interested into coding with pharo and understanding pharo libraries and tools than generally debating smalltalk. But if you want such list to discuss smalltalk be my guest. "Hi, This topic was discus

Re: [Pharo-dev] InfoWorld on Redline Smalltalk

2015-01-16 Thread kilon alios
"I would like to remind people that the aim of the Pharo project is more ambitious than the Smalltalk one" I would like to hear this grand plan of Pharo, where is it ? Where is the official roadmap ? What are the goals that the core development team agree on ? Why are such a secret and I have neve

Re: [Pharo-dev] Fixing DNU binding in GT and Nautilus

2015-01-15 Thread kilon alios
what DNU means ? is it the same as MNU ? On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 6:07 PM, Andrei Chis wrote: > Should be Alain's repo: > http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/AlainPlantec/Rubric/main/ > If you do not have access I can commit the change for you. > > On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 5:03 PM, Nicolai Hess wrote: > >

Re: [Pharo-dev] R: Finish one thing today

2015-01-15 Thread kilon alios
personally I dont see the point and it looks silly. Sometimes things take more time, sometimes releasing frequently is not a good idea because it comes with its own costs and delays. Coding like anything else in life is about critical thinking. Its about sitting down and deciding whats the best cou

Re: [Pharo-dev] InfoWorld on Redline Smalltalk

2015-01-14 Thread kilon alios
Lets see the big picture here, if you take a look at TIOBE INDEX or LANGPOP or the internet at large you get a clear picture about java based languages . Popularity wise they have been a ultimate failure. Right now the only language that is barely noticable is Scala and even Scala is nowhere near a

Re: [Pharo-dev] No more a single PDF for Updated PBE, why ?

2015-01-12 Thread kilon alios
Thank you Luc On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 6:14 PM, Luc Fabresse wrote: > Hi Kilon, > > 2015-01-12 16:38 GMT+01:00 kilon alios : > >> UPBE used to have a single pdf output for all chapters and I see this is >> no longer offered, why is that ? it was really convenient >>

[Pharo-dev] No more a single PDF for Updated PBE, why ?

2015-01-12 Thread kilon alios
UPBE used to have a single pdf output for all chapters and I see this is no longer offered, why is that ? it was really convenient

Re: [Pharo-dev] PettitParser and Python

2015-01-11 Thread kilon alios
emember where we put the code. >> >> Stef >> >> Le 9/1/15 19:30, kilon alios a écrit : >> >>> Hello guys I am learning PettitParser , I dowloaded the video tutorials >>> of Tudor Girba (very good tutorial Tudor , well done ) and other >>> d

Re: [Pharo-dev] PettitParser and Python

2015-01-10 Thread kilon alios
ling with whitespace properly. > > Jan Kurs was working on such a parser. I do not know how advanced it is. > Jan? > > Cheers, > Doru > > > > On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 7:30 PM, kilon alios wrote: > >> Hello guys I am learning PettitParser , I dowloaded the video tutor

[Pharo-dev] PettitParser and Python

2015-01-09 Thread kilon alios
Hello guys I am learning PettitParser , I dowloaded the video tutorials of Tudor Girba (very good tutorial Tudor , well done ) and other documentation and I was wondering if a parser for Python already exists . I hope I am not asking something obvious. For my project I want to parse python types

Re: [Pharo-dev] The "death" of Smalltalk

2015-01-09 Thread kilon alios
If Smalltalk is dead , that make Pharo a necromancer . Nice necromancers were always my favorite heroes in RPGs like Baldur's Gate :) Pharo , the dark side of the force :D On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 7:37 PM, J.F. Rick wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I just watched https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YX3iRjKj

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] [ANN] OS Project with initial support for Ubuntu and Unix

2015-01-09 Thread kilon alios
what are the goals for OSX ? is there any documentation ? On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 6:23 PM, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > Damien wrote > > that is really great news, thank you very much. > > You should thank Igor as he invented NB to make this possible > and convinced me that it is not a good idea to

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ OT ] Je suis Charlie

2015-01-08 Thread kilon alios
Our condolences from Greece, very sad day for mankind and freedom of speech. Any form of fanatism can only damage and unfortunately we have witnessed its worst form yesterday. On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 5:14 PM, stepharo wrote: > Extremely sad. I cried. When you see the violence with which the guy

Re: [Pharo-dev] Should I be using Bloc ?

2015-01-06 Thread kilon alios
thank you stef :) I will take a look On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 7:07 PM, stepharo wrote: > > I wonder how usable Bloc is and whether its too early to use it for my >> project . >> > > Not yet! > Now you can have a look at the examples and even help writing some tests. > >> Where I can find documen

[Pharo-dev] Should I be using Bloc ?

2015-01-06 Thread kilon alios
I wonder how usable Bloc is and whether its too early to use it for my project . Where I can find documentation about it ? Is smalltalkhub repo the main repo ?

Re: [Pharo-dev] Object>>ifNilOrEmpty: aBlock

2015-01-05 Thread kilon alios
t counting the 303 #ensure: that are used transparently in things > like: > > aFileRef readStreamDo: [ :s | s upToEnd ] > > Phil > > > On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 2:12 PM, kilon alios wrote: > >> I dont know javascript well nor pharo but I am coming from python and fo

Re: [Pharo-dev] Old inspector and explorer

2015-01-05 Thread kilon alios
I agree completely , Dorus has been a very good listener to criticism and he has changed things on popular request. Asking for concrete examples instead of falling down the trap of discussing general philosophies and ideologies is the way to go. On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 4:59 PM, Sven Van Caekenbergh

Re: [Pharo-dev] Object>>ifNilOrEmpty: aBlock

2015-01-05 Thread kilon alios
I dont know javascript well nor pharo but I am coming from python and for this scenario it would make more sense to me to use an exception than an actual check. At least that is the way Python deals with this situation which is an approach I really like. I know Pharo has exception handling as well

Re: [Pharo-dev] My New Year present to Pharo

2015-01-04 Thread kilon alios
Thank you , well I consider myself more an artist and then a coder :) This one took over 100 hours to make in Blender but was a great excuse to learn Blender as I am newcomer to 3d graphics in general. On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 5:52 PM, horrido wrote: > Very nice! I will use it (credited) in the

Re: [Pharo-dev] On Twitter

2015-01-04 Thread kilon alios
So nicely said Guillermo , I could not agree more with you. Anyone can create an account with random tweets , but to filter out all the bs of the internet to something really important takes a lot of skill and a lot of time. I have seen some people following thousands while I manage to follow 72.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Jun4Pharo so exciting :)

2014-12-31 Thread kilon alios
lse :-) > > Alexandre > > > > On Dec 31, 2014, at 1:06 PM, kilon alios wrote: > > > > not if the task is huge > > > > To give you an idea about the diffirence in size > > > > https://www.openhub.net/p/d3js > > > > https://www.openhub

Re: [Pharo-dev] Jun4Pharo so exciting :)

2014-12-31 Thread kilon alios
PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > Well... The hard way is very gratifying. We could have worked on an > integration of D3 in Pharo instead of working on Roassal :) > > Alexandre > > Envoyé de mon iPhone > > Le 31 déc. 2014 à 11:38, kilon alios a écrit : > > I dont d

Re: [Pharo-dev] Jun4Pharo so exciting :)

2014-12-31 Thread kilon alios
irectly in the OpenGL. > > I know of these problems because I implemented once the stencil method in > C++ with OpenGL. > > The old opengl Cairo backend worked by triangulating the paths. > Triangulation of concave geometry is hard to do, and there some degenerate > case in whi

Re: [Pharo-dev] Smalltalk Reflections Podcast

2014-12-31 Thread kilon alios
looks very interesting what you mean by "insert" ? On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 10:09 PM, davidbuck wrote: > Craig Latta and I have started up a new weekly podcast called Smalltalk > Reflections. The web side is http://smalltalkreflections.blogspot.ca/ and > it's available from iTunes. We would lik

Re: [Pharo-dev] Jun4Pharo so exciting :)

2014-12-30 Thread kilon alios
; with Woden/Woden-Roassal. For what I have seen in the videos, it seems to > be using software rendering. Currently I have been working in my internship > about volumetric data visualization and the new FFI. > > 2014-12-30 11:01 GMT-03:00 kilon alios : > > Athens uses Cairo , Cairo c

Re: [Pharo-dev] The Smalltalk Renaissance Program

2014-12-30 Thread kilon alios
I think newcomers like us can play a pivot role too. As a newcomer I made Pharo manipulate Blender by hijacking python, I thought that most likely I would fail because I dont know Pharo well and I never tried to create a parser or communicate via sockets but I was succesful and uploaded several vid

Re: [Pharo-dev] A hidden treasure :)

2014-12-30 Thread kilon alios
your first page looks like Pillar did not parse the coder correctly and instead it displays [[[NBExternalResourceManager addResource: anObject.]]] Thats a hell of a class comment :D Thanks I gor and Stef :) On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 4:04 PM, stepharo wrote: > Thanks igor for his great class com

Re: [Pharo-dev] Jun4Pharo so exciting :)

2014-12-30 Thread kilon alios
Athens uses Cairo , Cairo can be used with OpenGL. You can use Cairo to apply a 2d vector graphic as a texture to a 3d polygon. Cairo website shows several examples of this. That means its possible to have 2d vector graphics in 3d space as if its true 3d. On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 12:10 AM, stepharo

Re: [Pharo-dev] The Smalltalk Renaissance Program

2014-12-30 Thread kilon alios
It does not matter how one calls Pharo, the only people who care are smalltalk developers and they are not that many out there anyway. Pharo tries to attract all developers but in order to do that in order for it become more popular it has to play the rules and the rules are simple, active support

Re: [Pharo-dev] A toast

2014-12-29 Thread kilon alios
definetly a very productive year, even I have managed although still very fresh to Pharo to make several contributions. The effort that all Pharoers put into this saga is all inspiring and there is still huge potential. Congratulations to all people involved and thank you for sharing your work for

Re: [Pharo-dev] On Twitter

2014-12-28 Thread kilon alios
Pharo is indeed very active and very informative in Twitter. I used to dislike Twitter but it has become my favourite online tool. I see Twitter as the headlines of newspapers, they are there to give you a very basic idea about specific articles . So I have selected a very small amount of twitte

Re: [Pharo-dev] Old inspector and explorer

2014-12-26 Thread kilon alios
times, but we want to > get far fast, and for that we need everyone's help at least as feedback. If > we keep the other tools around, the incentive to fall back on the existing > habit is too great and feedback does not happen. Please put a bit more > trust in us and we'll try

Re: [Pharo-dev] Old inspector and explorer

2014-12-26 Thread kilon alios
Why cant be both ? Why it has to be black and white ? What if we , I, someone does not like the design of a tool at a fundamental level ? If you dont like a tool then you dont like a tool, its not as if the tool itself will be redesigned to fit your own needs . You have two choices a) suck it up a

Re: [Pharo-dev] Engage on "Where Smalltalk Went Wrong (2004)"

2014-12-26 Thread kilon alios
Just a word of warning, such posts are click baits and I think the best way we as community can deal with them is to just ignore them. We should not forget that it was a few years ago that internet was littered with posts about JAVA demise , actually even today the "Java is dead" is a very popular

Re: [Pharo-dev] SODD

2014-12-18 Thread kilon alios
Its true at times SO goes into "crazy mode" and closes useful questions and downvotes good answer, its a known condition as "human condition" , but overall SO is very useful for getting answer to questions and definitely is good promotion of pharo. Please note also that a question can be turned in

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] About Pharo books

2014-12-15 Thread kilon alios
great work guys, thank you for your hard work. I would prefer it if I could find all documentation in one place and I dont have to look into 10 books to find what i want. Maybe have the books and one central place with all documentation ? On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Luc Fabresse wrote: > >

Re: [Pharo-dev] smalltalk hub down?

2014-12-11 Thread kilon alios
What do you mean ? because for me its quite the opposite. If I want to browser pharo projects on on Smalltalkhub I cant , on github I just browse Smalltalk as a language and most project are pharo projects. I can also search for "pharo" projects. If I want to follow people on Smalltalkhub and get

[Pharo-dev] Pharo documentation mentioned online

2014-12-11 Thread kilon alios
Hello pharoers just a notice that pharo is mentioned here http://www.onlineprogrammingbooks.com/ its website for free programming books, with over 3k likes on facebook. In smalltalk section Pharo By Example makes the top of the list which is nice :) I contacted the authors with links and infor

Re: [Pharo-dev] GTInspector and huge arrays issue

2014-12-11 Thread kilon alios
ble. > > Doru > > On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 12:03 PM, kilon alios > wrote: > >> curious how come you guys did not use Spec ? >> >> On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 12:12 AM, Aliaksei Syrel >> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Why the class you

Re: [Pharo-dev] GTInspector and huge arrays issue

2014-12-11 Thread kilon alios
t important feature for us was to > have a normal support of paddings and margins (like in css). And all bounds > are relative to the parent. > > Cheers, > Alex > > On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 10:31 PM, kilon alios > wrote: > >> I am very interested into Brick, because I am

Re: [Pharo-dev] Short AltBrowser end-user test

2014-12-10 Thread kilon alios
I used Eclipse when I was coding python a lot, never missed it . Kinda strange that Pharo (and Squeak) being so unfamiliar to me felt like home right from the start. Its not what you are used to but what you want to use ;) On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 6:12 PM, Thierry Goubier wrote: > > > 2014-12-10

Re: [Pharo-dev] About launching tools with Spotter

2014-12-10 Thread kilon alios
Why it has to be always about black and white ? Just put GTSpotter to the Pharo settings and let the user choose what is best for him.

Re: [Pharo-dev] GTInspector and huge arrays issue

2014-12-10 Thread kilon alios
I am very interested into Brick, because I am very interesting into anything GUI and graphic wise and I want to push pharo forward in that field with my own efforts as best I can. The scrolling of your examples is actually very smooth. Why the class you use is not available in Moose 5.0 ? Because

Re: [Pharo-dev] Spotter feedback

2014-12-10 Thread kilon alios
This tool is too awesome cant thank you enough guys. I was looking into implementing something like this , I see a lot of potential inside this tool to finally unify the whole GUI of pharo and all tools. Now I can base my work on this :) On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 5:27 PM, Aliaksei Syrel wrote: > H

Re: [Pharo-dev] playground vs workspace

2014-12-09 Thread kilon alios
My only objection was the documentation but since we cleared this up you have 100% my support , my faith and my trust. Frankly I have voiced several concerns with GTPlayground because there was things I was missing from workspace and you were prompt to fix those issues and fast and efficiently , I

Re: [Pharo-dev] playground vs workspace

2014-12-08 Thread kilon alios
"Our "battle" is with the non-Smalltalk world. This is what we need to convince. And that world does not care about the history of Smalltalk. It cares about how we can solve their problem. That's all." But you already offer an impressive arsenal of tools. The world can complain for several things

Re: [Pharo-dev] playground vs workspace

2014-12-08 Thread kilon alios
"Hi Kilon, Please, let's get positive :)." I dont believe in being positive or negative can help. I think being open minded and seeing and exploring problems is far more reliable way to improve. I also believe that reporting a real problem is far more beneficial to a community than hiding it away

Re: [Pharo-dev] playground vs workspace

2014-12-08 Thread kilon alios
"But, those tools are already added. And they are documented on the humane-assessment.com blog, and this can serve as a strong basis for a more official documentation." my issue is not "when" but "whether" . If you want to wait out the release of Pharo 4 to make official documentation, thats fine

Re: [Pharo-dev] playground vs workspace

2014-12-08 Thread kilon alios
I disagree as I also disagree with the replacement of workspace and the inspector. My opinion on this can be summarised as "*Nothing should be added to Pharo without being fully documented*" . The use of workspace and the inspector is well documented in PBE. There is no official documentation for

Re: [Pharo-dev] Problem copy pasting from internet browser to GTPlayground

2014-12-06 Thread kilon alios
If its a known issue with a known solution why is not default like this ? On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Peter Uhnák wrote: > > I have experienced similar problems on UBUNTU but in that OS the > problem exist when copying from Chrome it does not exist when copying from > Firefox. > > Because t

Re: [Pharo-dev] Problem copy pasting from internet browser to GTPlayground

2014-12-06 Thread kilon alios
don't know but what I do know is that I never had such an issue with another programming language or IDE. On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 1:11 PM, Max Leske wrote: > > On 06 Dec 2014, at 11:47, kilon alios wrote: > > The problem is not even just MacOS related, I have experienced simi

Re: [Pharo-dev] Problem copy pasting from internet browser to GTPlayground

2014-12-06 Thread kilon alios
>> On 05 Dec 2014, at 22:17, kilon alios wrote: > >> > >> I try to copy this code here > >> > >> https://www.facebook.com/ObjectProfile/posts/742756179144315 > >> > >> and paste it to Playground to do it. It inserts illegal characters. &g

[Pharo-dev] Problem copy pasting from internet browser to GTPlayground

2014-12-05 Thread kilon alios
I try to copy this code here https://www.facebook.com/ObjectProfile/posts/742756179144315 and paste it to Playground to do it. It inserts illegal characters. I am on MacOS Yosemite and tried Chrome and Safari. Workspace also has same issue. Is there a solution to this ? Copy pasting code from a

Re: [Pharo-dev] GTInspector and huge arrays issue

2014-12-04 Thread kilon alios
thanks Doru and keep the awesome job. You guys really improved the inspector feature wise, I love to see efforts to modernize Smalltalk :) On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: > In that presentation, yes. > > Doru > > On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 1:09 PM, kilon alios

Re: [Pharo-dev] GTInspector and huge arrays issue

2014-12-04 Thread kilon alios
"In that case, this will translate in self select: [:each | each isMatchingSomething]" ah ok, I see, so it does not search based on a string but based on expression.

Re: [Pharo-dev] GTInspector and huge arrays issue

2014-12-04 Thread kilon alios
"Did you try this script in the discussion that shows the other possibility of list scrolling in Morph without talking about GT-*: This covers your requirement of omnipresent buttons and a list showing a fix number of items (in your case 50)." I did try but was giving me an error . The code you pr

Re: [Pharo-dev] GTInspector and huge arrays issue

2014-12-04 Thread kilon alios
"So I am not the only one grumbling about the scrolling in lists. My suggestion was to use paging for this purpose. See the discussion here on moose-list. https://code.google.com/p/moose-technology/issues/detail?id=1099&can=4&colspec=ID%20Status%20Summary%20Type%20Component%20Difficulty%20Opened%

[Pharo-dev] GTInspector and huge arrays issue

2014-12-04 Thread kilon alios
so I am enjoying the new Inspector but I have come to a problem. I inspected Smalltalk global variable and has gave me an array with 4000+ items . My problem is that there is no way to quickly scroll those items for example to go forward i have to scroll down and then press next page icon. I think

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to tell Pharo 3.0 from 4.0

2014-12-04 Thread kilon alios
"SystemVersion current" or Smalltalk image version.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo+Git cons?

2014-12-04 Thread kilon alios
"Well, it’s not complete, far fromit actually. Git is huge… (also, see my response to Thierry)" yes that sound more logical . "Yes, but the tools should use libgit2 bindings, not the Smalltalk implementation." that sounds even more logical too. I am asking those questions because at the moment I

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo+Git cons?

2014-12-04 Thread kilon alios
build the tools on top of it to utilize git ? On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 11:00 AM, Max Leske wrote: > > > On 04.12.2014, at 09:47, kilon alios wrote: > > > > > > > > What are the benefits that justify the effort to reimplementing git in > smalltalk ? > > &

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo+Git cons?

2014-12-04 Thread kilon alios
What are the benefits that justify the effort to reimplementing git in smalltalk ?

Re: [Pharo-dev] Video Tutorial - Github for Pharo using Sourcetree

2014-12-03 Thread kilon alios
yes I am aware of git documentation thus I mention it in my video tutorial On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Ben Coman wrote: > kilon alios wrote: > >> I dont disagree but when it comes to me making a tutorial about something >> then foremost I want to know exactly what I am tal

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo+Git cons?

2014-12-02 Thread kilon alios
I think its great that we have this discussion we need at least people to report any problems they have with the git integration , real problems not theoretical problems so as a community we can coordinate effort. There is no reason to speculate about the future of Pharo with git since the integrat

Re: [Pharo-dev] Scale in 3.0 (kind of ANN)

2014-12-02 Thread kilon alios
mixed the posts again :D I wanted to say great work I definitely want to use Pharo in the terminal.

Re: [Pharo-dev] default fonts changed in Pharo 4.0

2014-12-02 Thread kilon alios
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_J6-3l3hCm0

Re: [Pharo-dev] Scale in 3.0 (kind of ANN)

2014-12-02 Thread kilon alios
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_J6-3l3hCm0 On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 12:19 PM, stepharo wrote: > Indeed and we should build on top of Scale (adding coral syntax). Just no > time for doing it. > Tx phil to port Scale and publish it. > In fact the commandline handler came for Camillo as a first ste

Re: [Pharo-dev] SmalltalkHub bugs & hangs :-(

2014-12-02 Thread kilon alios
"I prefer the Smalltalk environment." so do I "Sorry, if that would be true then Java or C# would be of extraordinary quality. Smalltalk has been there for more than 30 years and will probably another 30 years. Hypes come and go. Quantity for me seems more like the opposite of quality." True ? S

Re: [Pharo-dev] SmalltalkHub bugs & hangs :-(

2014-12-01 Thread kilon alios
"It's not a matter of SourceTree or other program, it's about your git GUI app of preference. You can use plain git from the command line if you prefer. The git repo is portable, the client is up to you." +1000 exactly and that is something I advocate. You cant use Sourcetree on linux ? no pro

Re: [Pharo-dev] SmalltalkHub bugs & hangs :-(

2014-12-01 Thread kilon alios
the history as Sourcetree does. So pharo is not far from it but as always its a matter of someone doing the hard work. On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 12:21 PM, Hilaire wrote: > Le 27/11/2014 11:29, kilon alios a écrit : > > My personal opinion on Github and Pharo is that it already works great

Re: [Pharo-dev] Compilation error of the PharoEnterprise book with luatex

2014-12-01 Thread kilon alios
oh my bad, I had it in one of the early drafts of the video tutorial (had to do several times to cut it down to 10 minutes) but I forgot to include it. Anyway this is how you do it. On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 10:33 AM, kilon alios wrote: > someone did not watch my video tutorial about github

Re: [Pharo-dev] Compilation error of the PharoEnterprise book with luatex

2014-12-01 Thread kilon alios
f: >> >> luatex -v >> >> that works compiling the chapter. >> then, I will investigate. >> >> #Luc >> >> 2014-11-29 8:55 GMT+01:00 stepharo : >> >>> The problem is not related to that. >>> To display the full encoding t

Re: [Pharo-dev] Video Tutorial - Github for Pharo using Sourcetree

2014-11-30 Thread kilon alios
30, 2014 at 6:14 PM, Dale Henrichs < dale.henri...@gemtalksystems.com> wrote: > > > On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 7:51 AM, kilon alios > wrote: > >> So far all I knew that using git for binary files was a no go, doable >> but not recommended. Thus I found strang

Re: [Pharo-dev] Video Tutorial - Github for Pharo using Sourcetree

2014-11-30 Thread kilon alios
binary files. On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 5:20 PM, Dale Henrichs < dale.henri...@gemtalksystems.com> wrote: > > > On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 4:19 AM, kilon alios > wrote: > >> >> "The important take-away from this is that when working with git and >> Smalltalk

Re: [Pharo-dev] Video Tutorial - Github for Pharo using Sourcetree

2014-11-30 Thread kilon alios
"The important take-away from this is that when working with git and Smalltalk you must track the SHA that has been loaded into the image (the latest version of Metacello tracks this information in the project registry) and you must have in-image tool support for recognizing SHA skew. It's not abso

Re: [Pharo-dev] Video Tutorial - Github for Pharo using Sourcetree

2014-11-29 Thread kilon alios
> > >> I recently did a merge between the pharo3.0 and the pharo4.0 branches of > AltBrowser; if you are interested, you can have a look and try to reproduce > it (by doing a checkout of the pharo4.0 branch to the commit id just before > the merge and merging with pharo3.0 again. Doing it with and

Re: [Pharo-dev] Video Tutorial - Github for Pharo using Sourcetree

2014-11-29 Thread kilon alios
"For a true 'doing something with it', you have to look into what Dale Henrichs has done with tODE. He is, as far as I could read, a long way up front us." no idea what tODE is doing, I have seen some demos but I have not understand it. "Filetree metadata is a pain in the ass when merging and Thi

Re: [Pharo-dev] Video Tutorial - Github for Pharo using Sourcetree

2014-11-29 Thread kilon alios
plain what cool stuff one can do with sourcetree because its a really awesome git client. On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Thierry Goubier wrote: > Le 29/11/2014 09:16, kilon alios a écrit : > >> my pleasure , I am considering also creating a tutorial for fork, >> branch, merge,

Re: [Pharo-dev] Video Tutorial - Github for Pharo using Sourcetree

2014-11-29 Thread kilon alios
> http://pharoweekly.wordpress.com/2014/11/29/github-for- > pharo-using-sourcetree-video-by-kilon-alios/ > > Le 27/11/14 21:46, kilon alios a écrit : > > Hello pharoers , at last , my video tutorial for those that are not >> familiar with git and github, has been uploaded to Y

Re: [Pharo-dev] Compilation error of the PharoEnterprise book with luatex

2014-11-28 Thread kilon alios
have you tried MacTex ? https://tug.org/mactex/ its what I use with my iMac and so far has been working for me without any issues. On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 12:02 AM, Luc Fabresse wrote: > Hi All, > > I cannot compile the latest version in SquareBracketAssociates/ > EnterprisePharo.git > My prob

Re: [Pharo-dev] SmalltalkHub bugs & hangs :-(

2014-11-28 Thread kilon alios
> > > "We started late. We had tools reasonably suited for our needs which we were comfortable with. I think/hope that once libgit is "released" in Pharo and the wider community becomes more familiar with it, it stimulates us to develop tools to rival the others. Tools that non-Smalltalkers als

[Pharo-dev] Video Tutorial - Github for Pharo using Sourcetree

2014-11-27 Thread kilon alios
Hello pharoers , at last , my video tutorial for those that are not familiar with git and github, has been uploaded to YouTube. I describe the very basics of the process and give you enough information to create a github repository, clone the online repository to your hard driver and use the hard d

Re: [Pharo-dev] SmalltalkHub bugs & hangs :-(

2014-11-27 Thread kilon alios
I forgot to add that git comes with excellent gui clients that are far more powerful and elegant that what Pharo offers currently . If you are user of emacs there is magit , really powerful gui client and very popular among emacs users. For gui client I have used quite a lot SmartGit http://www.

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo4] saveAs now uses save file dialog

2014-11-27 Thread kilon alios
yeap that is a very useful addition, great work Marcus. I have tested works very nicely and the way a beginner user would expect. Maybe it would be better if the file dialog was maximized to cover the entire Pharo window ? This is how other apps are doing this. On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Gui

Re: [Pharo-dev] SmalltalkHub bugs & hangs :-(

2014-11-27 Thread kilon alios
o ? > What should I install, how to use it ? > > Thank you. > Jannik > > 2014-11-27 11:29 GMT+01:00 kilon alios : > >> My personal opinion on Github and Pharo is that it already works great >> with Pharo. The workflow with filetree is exactly the same as other >>

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