Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 1328 in pharo: Remove old input sensor classes

2011-04-03 Thread pharo
Updates: Status: Closed Comment #7 on issue 1328 by marcus.d...@gmail.com: Remove old input sensor classes http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1328 It seems the old classes are already removed

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3741 in pharo: Decompiler hangs

2011-04-03 Thread pharo
Updates: Status: Closed Comment #2 on issue 3741 by marcus.d...@gmail.com: Decompiler hangs http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3741 Hello, Can you check in the latest 1.3? I can not as there is not enough information to re-create the bug.

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3005 in pharo: Support for SCIM on Linux

2011-04-03 Thread pharo
Updates: Status: Duplicate Mergedinto: 1405 Comment #2 on issue 3005 by marcus.d...@gmail.com: Support for SCIM on Linux http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3005 (No comment was entered for this change.)

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 1405 in pharo: Ubuntu vm : inputting return character on belgian keyboard layout is different in pharo than in other programs

2011-04-03 Thread pharo
Comment #5 on issue 1405 by marcus.d...@gmail.com: Ubuntu vm : inputting return character on belgian keyboard layout is different in pharo than in other programs http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1405 Issue 3005 has been merged into this issue.

[Pharo-project] [ANN 1.2] 1.2.1 Full Release Image

2011-04-03 Thread Marcus Denker
https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/28435/Pharo-1.2.1-11.04.03.zip Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN 1.2] 1.2.1 Full Release Image

2011-04-03 Thread Marcus Denker
On Apr 3, 2011, at 9:35 AM, Marcus Denker wrote: https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/28435/Pharo-1.2.1-11.04.03.zip .. the all green image of today from Hudson. Yes, this is not repeatable and tomorrow the hudson one might be different. But we need to move on. 1.1 was build

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3911 in pharo: Change updater to allow updating a release image

2011-04-03 Thread pharo
Updates: Labels: -Milestone-1.2 Milestone-1.2.2 Comment #4 on issue 3911 by marcus.d...@gmail.com: Change updater to allow updating a release image http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3911 (No comment was entered for this change.)

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN 1.2] 1.2.1 Full Release Image

2011-04-03 Thread Tudor Girba
Excellent! https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/28435/Pharo-1.2.1-11.04.03.zip .. the all green image of today from Hudson. Yes, this is not repeatable and tomorrow the hudson one might be different. But we need to move on. 1.1 was build just once, too. Exactly. So we can

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN 1.2] 1.2.1 Full Release Image

2011-04-03 Thread Hilaire Fernandes
Thanks Markus Hil Le 03/04/2011 09:35, Marcus Denker a écrit : https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/28435/Pharo-1.2.1-11.04.03.zip Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. -- Education 0.2 --

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3912 in pharo: Circular dependency with GLMOrangeUITheme

2011-04-03 Thread pharo
Updates: Labels: -Milestone-1.2 Milestone-1.2.2 Milestone-1.3 Comment #1 on issue 3912 by marcus.d...@gmail.com: Circular dependency with GLMOrangeUITheme http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3912 (No comment was entered for this change.)

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3754 in pharo: Omnibrowser's an extra horizontal scrollbar

2011-04-03 Thread pharo
Updates: Labels: -Milestone-1.2-DevImage Milestone-1.2.2-DevImage Milestone-1.3-DevImage Comment #7 on issue 3754 by marcus.d...@gmail.com: Omnibrowser's an extra horizontal scrollbar http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3754 (No comment was entered for this change.)

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3706 in pharo: In OB: Text in comment pane of Browser uses syntax highlighting

2011-04-03 Thread pharo
Updates: Labels: -Milestone-1.2-DevImage Milestone-1.2.2-DevImage Comment #23 on issue 3706 by marcus.d...@gmail.com: In OB: Text in comment pane of Browser uses syntax highlighting http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3706 (No comment was entered for this change.)

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3842 in pharo: 1.2 Config needs to load latest code from OB Repository

2011-04-03 Thread pharo
Updates: Labels: -Milestone-1.2-DevImage Milestone-1.2.2-DevImage Comment #1 on issue 3842 by marcus.d...@gmail.com: 1.2 Config needs to load latest code from OB Repository http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3842 (No comment was entered for this change.)

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN 1.2] 1.2.1 Full Release Image

2011-04-03 Thread Marcus Denker
On Apr 3, 2011, at 9:41 AM, Tudor Girba wrote: Excellent! https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/28435/Pharo-1.2.1-11.04.03.zip .. the all green image of today from Hudson. Yes, this is not repeatable and tomorrow the hudson one might be different. But we need to move on. 1.1

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3754 in pharo: Omnibrowser's an extra horizontal scrollbar

2011-04-03 Thread pharo
Comment #8 on issue 3754 by renggli: Omnibrowser's an extra horizontal scrollbar http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3754 FYI: I cannot reproduce this problem in Pharo 1.2

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN 1.2] 1.2.1 Full Release Image

2011-04-03 Thread Lukas Renggli
A pity that broken OB code is used, nevertheless it is quite usable. Lukas On 3 April 2011 09:58, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On Apr 3, 2011, at 9:41 AM, Tudor Girba wrote: Excellent!     https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/28435/Pharo-1.2.1-11.04.03.zip .. the all

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN 1.2] 1.2.1 Full Release Image

2011-04-03 Thread Marcus Denker
On Apr 3, 2011, at 10:22 AM, Lukas Renggli wrote: A pity that broken OB code is used, nevertheless it is quite usable. Yes, and I added a bug report on March 22: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3842 But nobody cared to react. So how important can it be? There are

Re: [Pharo-project] Announcement real problems - please read and comment.

2011-04-03 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Apr 2, 2011, at 5:14 PM, Henrik Sperre Johansen wrote: On 02.04.2011 09:16, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: Henrik what is your answer to problem 1 Problem 1 - the second announcement was never sent, because the first one broke the second was blocked. we should make sure that if

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3709 in pharo: Clean OB**WithShout in omnibrowser

2011-04-03 Thread pharo
Comment #1 on issue 3709 by renggli: Clean OB**WithShout in omnibrowser http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3709 This is pretty much cleaned up in http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/omnibrowser/ and http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/unsorted/.

Re: [Pharo-project] Announcement real problems - please read and comment.

2011-04-03 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
PPS. There's a neat method called #on:send:to:, which would be perfect for the different actions in RPackage-SystemIntegration. I'm trying to understand how this on:send:to: would help us. Because Nautilus registered to system announcer Now I do not understand why RPackageOrganizer

Re: [Pharo-project] Participating to a cool project

2011-04-03 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
tx hilaire keep pushing. stef On Apr 2, 2011, at 8:55 PM, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: Dr. Geo (http://www.ofset.org/drgeo) is becoming better release after release. It is proposed for all three major systems and the XO OLPC laptop for kid. It has been downloaded several thousand of times, it

Re: [Pharo-project] syntax highlighting for (stateful) traits (non-local methods)

2011-04-03 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Apr 2, 2011, at 9:10 PM, Toon Verwaest wrote: Hi all, as you know I'm working on stateful traits using my new classbuilder no Are you? etc... Now I noticed that methods are highlighted always inside of the context of the class that's active in the class browser. How can I change

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN 1.2] 1.2.1 Full Release Image

2011-04-03 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
tx! and yes we should continue On Apr 3, 2011, at 9:36 AM, Marcus Denker wrote: On Apr 3, 2011, at 9:35 AM, Marcus Denker wrote: https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/28435/Pharo-1.2.1-11.04.03.zip .. the all green image of today from Hudson. Yes, this is not repeatable

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3786 in pharo: Debug test .. (d) menu option in OBSystenBrowser gives SystemGuardException in Pharo 1.2

2011-04-03 Thread pharo
Comment #3 on issue 3786 by jvdsa...@gmail.com: Debug test .. (d) menu option in OBSystenBrowser gives SystemGuardException in Pharo 1.2 http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3786 This bug is still present in the 1.2.1 development image.

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3709 in pharo: Clean OB**WithShout in omnibrowser

2011-04-03 Thread pharo
Updates: Status: Duplicate Mergedinto: 3842 Comment #2 on issue 3709 by marcus.d...@gmail.com: Clean OB**WithShout in omnibrowser http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3709 So this will be fixed with a merge

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3842 in pharo: 1.2 Config needs to load latest code from OB Repository

2011-04-03 Thread pharo
Comment #2 on issue 3842 by marcus.d...@gmail.com: 1.2 Config needs to load latest code from OB Repository http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3842 Issue 3709 has been merged into this issue.

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3842 in pharo: 1.2 Config needs to load latest code from OB Repository

2011-04-03 Thread pharo
Comment #3 on issue 3842 by marcus.d...@gmail.com: 1.2 Config needs to load latest code from OB Repository http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3842 Issue 3786 has been merged into this issue.

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3786 in pharo: Debug test .. (d) menu option in OBSystenBrowser gives SystemGuardException in Pharo 1.2

2011-04-03 Thread pharo
Updates: Status: Duplicate Mergedinto: 3842 Comment #4 on issue 3786 by marcus.d...@gmail.com: Debug test .. (d) menu option in OBSystenBrowser gives SystemGuardException in Pharo 1.2 http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3786 So then this code is in the other

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3754 in pharo: Omnibrowser's an extra horizontal scrollbar

2011-04-03 Thread pharo
Updates: Status: Closed Comment #9 on issue 3754 by marcus.d...@gmail.com: Omnibrowser's an extra horizontal scrollbar http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3754 (No comment was entered for this change.)

[Pharo-project] Issue 3943 in pharo: remove ExternalSettings from MC

2011-04-03 Thread pharo
Status: FixProposed Owner: marcus.d...@gmail.com Labels: Milestone-1.3 New issue 3943 by marcus.d...@gmail.com: remove ExternalSettings from MC http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3943 ExternalSettings... this changeset removes ExternalSettings from it's last client. In the

[Pharo-project] Issue 3944 in pharo: ClassHierarchyTest needs to be moved to KernelTests package

2011-04-03 Thread pharo
Status: Accepted Owner: marcus.d...@gmail.com Labels: Milestone-1.3 New issue 3944 by marcus.d...@gmail.com: ClassHierarchyTest needs to be moved to KernelTests package http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3944 ClassHierarchyTest needs to be moved to KernelTests package

[Pharo-project] Issue 3945 in pharo: Remove squeakland plugin methods from SystemVersion

2011-04-03 Thread pharo
Status: FixProposed Owner: marcus.d...@gmail.com Labels: Milestone-1.3 New issue 3945 by marcus.d...@gmail.com: Remove squeakland plugin methods from SystemVersion http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3945 Remove squeakland plugin methods from SystemVersion Attachments:

Re: [Pharo-project] syntax highlighting for (stateful) traits (non-local methods)

2011-04-03 Thread Toon Verwaest
Oh yes.. I am :) http://pinocchio.unibe.ch/~tverwaes/slots.tar.gz gives you an image with an example of a stateful trait open. The state is always private to the class / trait at the moment and it already seems to work pretty well. I modified the NewInspector slightly to show you the proper

[Pharo-project] Issue 3946 in pharo: remove some more uniclasses/player related code

2011-04-03 Thread pharo
Status: FixProposed Owner: marcus.d...@gmail.com Labels: Milestone-1.3 New issue 3946 by marcus.d...@gmail.com: remove some more uniclasses/player related code http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3946 remove some more uniclasses/player related dead code Attachments:

[Pharo-project] Issue 3947 in pharo: remove #floodFill:

2011-04-03 Thread pharo
Status: FixProposed Owner: marcus.d...@gmail.com Labels: Milestone-1.3 New issue 3947 by marcus.d...@gmail.com: remove #floodFill: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3947 Form removeSelector: #floodFill:at:! Form removeSelector: #floodFill:at:tolerance:! ... references

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3944 in pharo: ClassHierarchyTest needs to be moved to KernelTests package

2011-04-03 Thread pharo
Updates: Status: FixProposed Comment #1 on issue 3944 by marcus.d...@gmail.com: ClassHierarchyTest needs to be moved to KernelTests package http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3944 fix attached Attachments: ClassHierarchyTest.1.cs 242 bytes

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3942 in pharo: Transcript missing compatibility method ensureCr

2011-04-03 Thread pharo
Updates: Status: FixProposed Comment #1 on issue 3942 by marcus.d...@gmail.com: Transcript missing compatibility method ensureCr http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3942 fix attached Attachments: EnsureCr.1.cs 360 bytes

[Pharo-project] Issue 3948 in pharo: Transcript and ThreadedTranscript needs to be merged

2011-04-03 Thread pharo
Status: Accepted Owner: marcus.d...@gmail.com Labels: Milestone-1.3 New issue 3948 by marcus.d...@gmail.com: Transcript and ThreadedTranscript needs to be merged http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3948 Transcript is now not a Stream subclass anymore. ThreadedTranscript's

Re: [Pharo-project] syntax highlighting for (stateful) traits (non-local methods)

2011-04-03 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Oh yes.. I am :) cool How are you dealing with the fact that the application of trait with state may change the layout of the class user and that you should recompile all the class method to deal with that. And if you have two traits having state you should do the same but for the traits

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN 1.2] 1.2.1 Full Release Image

2011-04-03 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, The Moose build uses 1.2.1 now: http://hudson.moosetechnology.org/job/moose-latest-dev/ Cheers, Doru On 3 Apr 2011, at 10:45, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: tx! and yes we should continue On Apr 3, 2011, at 9:36 AM, Marcus Denker wrote: On Apr 3, 2011, at 9:35 AM, Marcus Denker wrote:

Re: [Pharo-project] syntax highlighting for (stateful) traits (non-local methods)

2011-04-03 Thread Toon Verwaest
How are you dealing with the fact that the application of trait with state may change the layout of the class user and that you should recompile all the class method to deal with that. And if you have two traits having state you should do the same but for the traits themselves. So this means

Re: [Pharo-project] Announcement real problems - please read and comment.

2011-04-03 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, I think that this dialogue goes in too many directions, so I will try to provide a summary. Maybe this helps. As I understand, Stef has the following problem: - there is one announcer with two listeners - the problem is that if the first listener raises an error, the second listener is not

[Pharo-project] Issue 3949 in pharo: Coverage for Cog

2011-04-03 Thread pharo
Status: FixProposed Owner: renggli Labels: Milestone-1.1.2 New issue 3949 by renggli: Coverage for Cog http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3949 The fix below makes sure that the coverage method is properly flushed from the method cache. It doesn't seem to yet fix all problems of

Re: [Pharo-project] syntax highlighting for (stateful) traits (non-local methods)

2011-04-03 Thread Toon Verwaest
Then the classbuilder will build classes by always following the public path. Sidescopes aren't public. When you compile methods on the trait, its scopes are public; but when they are installed, they aren't public since they are sidescopes. I obviously meant, the compiler will compile methods

Re: [Pharo-project] syntax highlighting for (stateful) traits (non-local methods)

2011-04-03 Thread Alexandre Bergel
So now I could apply syntax coloring in the context of the trait rather than the class. Do you mean coloring message sends in a trait's method? For self call that is not specified in the requirement? Since in my implementation state is all private to the trait / class, they should be able

Re: [Pharo-project] Announcement real problems - please read and comment.

2011-04-03 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Apr 3, 2011, at 12:30 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: Hi, I think that this dialogue goes in too many directions, so I will try to provide a summary. Maybe this helps. As I understand, Stef has the following problem: - there is one announcer with two listeners - the problem is that if the

Re: [Pharo-project] syntax highlighting for (stateful) traits (non-local methods)

2011-04-03 Thread Toon Verwaest
Do you mean coloring message sends in a trait's method? For self call that is not specified in the requirement? I meant that if you look at a method coming from a trait inside of the class browser; while your browser is pointing at a class. Instance variables were colored red since they

Re: [Pharo-project] syntax highlighting for (stateful) traits (non-local methods)

2011-04-03 Thread Alexandre Bergel
I tried the image. I hadn't seen such a look for years :-) StatefulTrait named: #TStatefulTest layout: PointerLayout slots: { #tfirst = Slot. #tsecond = Slot. } uses: {} category: #'Slot-Traits-Test' I checked what layout:

Re: [Pharo-project] syntax highlighting for (stateful) traits (non-local methods)

2011-04-03 Thread Toon Verwaest
I just finished building a new image based on the helvetia image. http://pinocchio.unibe.ch/~tverwaes/PlayOut.tar.gz The previous image is what I've been developing in, and yes, it's pretty annoying... I hope that the new image will perform better. But since I already noticed that the new

Re: [Pharo-project] syntax highlighting for (stateful) traits (non-local methods)

2011-04-03 Thread Alexandre Bergel
I guess that what Stef meant is the following: One of the problems when sharing code among mixin and stateful-trait application is that the physical layout of instances varies between mixin applications. (Section 6.5 of http://bergel.eu/download/papers/Berg07e-StatefulTraits.pdf) We have T.y

Re: [Pharo-project] syntax highlighting for (stateful) traits (non-local methods)

2011-04-03 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Can you merge state? What happens with C.x uses T.x ? Methods of T will use T.x and methods of C will use C.x? At the moment you can't, but in our slot library we have alias slots. So that we could use to do the same tricks as with methods: required slots, provided slots, defrosted

Re: [Pharo-project] syntax highlighting for (stateful) traits (non-local methods)

2011-04-03 Thread Toon Verwaest
On 04/03/2011 02:29 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: I guess that what Stef meant is the following: One of the problems when sharing code among mixin and stateful-trait application is that the physical layout of instances varies between mixin applications. (Section 6.5 of

Re: [Pharo-project] syntax highlighting for (stateful) traits (non-local methods)

2011-04-03 Thread Toon Verwaest
On 04/03/2011 02:31 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: Can you merge state? What happens with C.x uses T.x ? Methods of T will use T.x and methods of C will use C.x? At the moment you can't, but in our slot library we have alias slots. So that we could use to do the same tricks as with methods:

Re: [Pharo-project] syntax highlighting for (stateful) traits (non-local methods)

2011-04-03 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Yes I see, I did forget to implement all the tools to make it work. You know... I started the stateful traits implementation on Friday... I'm glad that I'm as far as I am ;) However, in the new image I can close it. Exceptions are just very slow for some reason. This is cool that you're

Re: [Pharo-project] syntax highlighting for (stateful) traits (non-local methods)

2011-04-03 Thread Toon Verwaest
On 04/03/2011 02:31 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: Can you merge state? What happens with C.x uses T.x ? Methods of T will use T.x and methods of C will use C.x? At the moment you can't, but in our slot library we have alias slots. So that we could use to do the same tricks as with methods:

Re: [Pharo-project] syntax highlighting for (stateful) traits (non-local methods)

2011-04-03 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Indeed. And this is not different from changing a layout of a class having as impact that you have to update the methods. The default traits implementation already recompiles all methods anyway whenever it installs the trait. What I do is, I just let the trait compile itself on the subpart

Re: [Pharo-project] syntax highlighting for (stateful) traits (non-local methods)

2011-04-03 Thread Marcus Denker
On Apr 3, 2011, at 1:29 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: I guess that what Stef meant is the following: One of the problems when sharing code among mixin and stateful-trait application is that the physical layout of instances varies between mixin applications. (Section 6.5 of Yes, and the

Re: [Pharo-project] syntax highlighting for (stateful) traits (non-local methods)

2011-04-03 Thread Toon Verwaest
On 04/03/2011 02:37 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: Indeed. And this is not different from changing a layout of a class having as impact that you have to update the methods. The default traits implementation already recompiles all methods anyway whenever it installs the trait. What I do is, I just

Re: [Pharo-project] syntax highlighting for (stateful) traits (non-local methods)

2011-04-03 Thread Toon Verwaest
On 04/03/2011 02:29 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: I guess that what Stef meant is the following: One of the problems when sharing code among mixin and stateful-trait application is that the physical layout of instances varies between mixin applications. (Section 6.5 of

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3911 in pharo: Change updater to allow updating a release image

2011-04-03 Thread pharo
Updates: Status: Closed Comment #5 on issue 3911 by marcus.d...@gmail.com: Change updater to allow updating a release image http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3911 in 12346

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3949 in pharo: Coverage for Cog

2011-04-03 Thread pharo
Updates: Labels: -Milestone-1.1.2 Milestone-1.2.2 Milestone-1.3 Comment #1 on issue 3949 by marcus.d...@gmail.com: Coverage for Cog http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3949 in 1.2.2a TODO: 1.3

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3912 in pharo: Circular dependency with GLMOrangeUITheme

2011-04-03 Thread pharo
Updates: Labels: -Milestone-1.2.2 Comment #2 on issue 3912 by marcus.d...@gmail.com: Circular dependency with GLMOrangeUITheme http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3912 This is the same in 1.3 I propose, as this is a purely cosmetic problem, to postpone this to 1.3 and

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3754 in pharo: Omnibrowser's an extra horizontal scrollbar

2011-04-03 Thread pharo
Comment #10 on issue 3754 by thereluc...@fastmail.fm: Omnibrowser's an extra horizontal scrollbar http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3754 I just tried it with: 'Croquet Closure Cog VM [CoInterpreter VMMaker-oscog.52] 21.0‘ and with 'Squeak4.1 of 17 April 2010 [latest update:

Re: [Pharo-project] who is using softSqueak and standard Squeak

2011-04-03 Thread Patrick Barroca
On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 10:38 AM, laurent laffont laurent.laff...@gmail.comwrote: On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.frwrote: On Apr 2, 2011, at 9:55 AM, laurent laffont wrote: Patrick, I think we should have a ConfigurationOfPharoThemes with all the themes

Re: [Pharo-project] syntax highlighting for (stateful) traits (non-local methods)

2011-04-03 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Thanks I should digest it. Now what I did not like in our stateful model was that - in introduced too many operators - I'm not sure I like trait state to be private because it changes a lot the smalltalk model - the initialization is not modular so you end up write a lot

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3754 in pharo: Omnibrowser's an extra horizontal scrollbar

2011-04-03 Thread pharo
Updates: Status: Started Comment #11 on issue 3754 by marcus.d...@gmail.com: Omnibrowser's an extra horizontal scrollbar http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3754 (No comment was entered for this change.)

[Pharo-project] [ANN] For testing: 1.2.1 One-Click

2011-04-03 Thread Marcus Denker
As with 1.2 in general, I gave up on auto build... as we will move to the VMs we build ourselfes in 1.3, the idea is to keep 1.2 as simple as possible. - I added the windows vm that Torsten send me - I did not update the mac or unix vm from 1.1.1...

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3645 in pharo: Update Hudson One-Click build files for 1.2

2011-04-03 Thread pharo
Updates: Status: Closed Comment #5 on issue 3645 by marcus.d...@gmail.com: Update Hudson One-Click build files for 1.2 http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3645 I did a 1.2 oneclick. We will use our own builds for 1.3 soon, for 1.2 we don't bother to configure hudson as

Re: [Pharo-project] syntax highlighting for (stateful) traits (non-local methods)

2011-04-03 Thread Toon Verwaest
On 04/03/2011 04:58 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: Thanks I should digest it. Now what I did not like in our stateful model was that - in introduced too many operators - I'm not sure I like trait state to be private because it changes a lot the smalltalk model I'm not sure if it

Re: [Pharo-project] syntax highlighting for (stateful) traits (non-local methods)

2011-04-03 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Thanks I should digest it. Now what I did not like in our stateful model was that - in introduced too many operators - I'm not sure I like trait state to be private because it changes a lot the smalltalk model At least, Toon will avoid all the problems we had with the renaming and

Re: [Pharo-project] syntax highlighting for (stateful) traits (non-local methods)

2011-04-03 Thread Toon Verwaest
On 04/03/2011 06:46 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: Thanks I should digest it. Now what I did not like in our stateful model was that - in introduced too many operators - I'm not sure I like trait state to be private because it changes a lot the smalltalk model At least, Toon will

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] For testing: 1.2.1 One-Click

2011-04-03 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Out of the box, system browsers are opening with a scroll bar between the lists and code pane. Click on it, and the bar disappears. Curious which vm was in use, I tried: SmalltalkImage current vmVersion 'Squeak3.10.2 of ''5 June 2008'' [latest update: #7179]' Looks weird?? Ask the vm

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] For testing: 1.2.1 One-Click

2011-04-03 Thread Toon Verwaest
The thing is that all things, even the smallest tiniest triviality, happens if someone *does* it. Nothing happens by itself. I'm probably very naive here; and also a bit lazy and so on... So: could you point me at a short text that describes exactly what I have to do to get any line of code

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] For testing: 1.2.1 One-Click

2011-04-03 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 6:31 PM, Toon Verwaest toon.verwa...@gmail.comwrote: The thing is that all things, even the smallest tiniest triviality, happens if someone *does* it. Nothing happens by itself. I'm probably very naive here; and also a bit lazy and so on... So: could you point me at

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] For testing: 1.2.1 One-Click

2011-04-03 Thread Marcus Denker
On Apr 3, 2011, at 5:31 PM, Marcus Denker wrote: As with 1.2 in general, I gave up on auto build... as we will move to the VMs we build ourselfes in 1.3, the idea is to keep 1.2 as simple as possible. - I added the windows vm that Torsten send me - I did not update the mac

[Pharo-project] Pharo 1.3 process

2011-04-03 Thread laurent laffont
Hi, as I'm a little lost on Pharo 1.2 (1.2.1 full was announced but I haven't seen 1.2.0, no big party, no 1 million download contest, BBC announcement... :) I wonder how we can improve the process for 1.3. I'm thinking about: - not starting Pharo 1.4 too soon as I feel it will steal energy from

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 1.3 process

2011-04-03 Thread Marcus Denker
On Apr 3, 2011, at 7:13 PM, laurent laffont wrote: Hi, as I'm a little lost on Pharo 1.2 (1.2.1 full was announced but I haven't seen 1.2.0, no big party, no 1 million download contest, BBC announcement... :) I wonder how we can improve the process for 1.3. Yes, that is why I did not

[Pharo-project] Let's get rid of Core vs. Full

2011-04-03 Thread Marcus Denker
Hi, So finally I have to admit that I am defeated: The way we do the Core vs. Full release does not work. 1) We don't develop the system using the tools that we tell people to use. - bugs don't get fixed - there is no pressure on improving the tools

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 1.3 process

2011-04-03 Thread laurent laffont
On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 7:18 PM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.frwrote: On Apr 3, 2011, at 7:13 PM, laurent laffont wrote: Hi, as I'm a little lost on Pharo 1.2 (1.2.1 full was announced but I haven't seen 1.2.0, no big party, no 1 million download contest, BBC announcement... :) I

Re: [Pharo-project] Let's get rid of Core vs. Full

2011-04-03 Thread Dale Henrichs
Rather than abandon core vs full, here's a thought on a slightly different approach... Do development in the FULL version. That way the tools are used and bugs in the tools are fixed as the changes are made in the CORE...you are keeping the FULL alive, not adding new features, etc, since that

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 1.3 process

2011-04-03 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Apr 3, 2011, at 7:12 PM, laurent laffont wrote: Hi, as I'm a little lost on Pharo 1.2 (1.2.1 full was announced but I haven't seen 1.2.0, no big party, no 1 million download contest, BBC announcement... :) I wonder how we can improve the process for 1.3. I'm thinking about: - not

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 1.3 process

2011-04-03 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
as I'm a little lost on Pharo 1.2 (1.2.1 full was announced but I haven't seen 1.2.0, no big party, no 1 million download contest, BBC announcement... :) I wonder how we can improve the process for 1.3. Yes, that is why I did not want to decouple the release of Core from Full.

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 1.3 process

2011-04-03 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
- Get rid of the Core/Full image destinction. This does not work. And I will not do a release with having two images again... it never worked, and it will never work. Yes but for that we need a good browser that we can maintain. Yes, 2 images seems hard to maintain and hard to

Re: [Pharo-project] Let's get rid of Core vs. Full

2011-04-03 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Apr 3, 2011, at 7:31 PM, Marcus Denker wrote: Hi, So finally I have to admit that I am defeated: The way we do the Core vs. Full release does not work. 1) We don't develop the system using the tools that we tell people to use. - bugs don't get fixed -

Re: [Pharo-project] Let's get rid of Core vs. Full

2011-04-03 Thread Hernán Morales Durand
I really agree with you Marcus. It sounds to me that core/dev is a black and white approach. I know there are no resources, but what do you think of starting with a minimum image and the build over more sophisticated images? -Kernel image -Core image -Image with really basic browsing/scm tools

[Pharo-project] Odd FFI problms with Mac vms...

2011-04-03 Thread Dale Henrichs
Norbert, Today I have found that I can get GemTools to work on the mac using Squeak 4.2.4beta1U. Squeak 4.2.5beta1U fails when an FFI call returns an incorrect value (get a Space is low error, because the size comes back as 1330942246849085449, instead of a reasonable number). The image is

Re: [Pharo-project] Odd FFI problms with Mac vms...

2011-04-03 Thread Dale Henrichs
On Apr 3, 2011, at 12:36 PM, Dale Henrichs wrote: Norbert, Today I have found that I can get GemTools to work on the mac using Squeak 4.2.4beta1U. Squeak 4.2.5beta1U fails when an FFI call returns an incorrect value (get a Space is low error, because the size comes back as

Re: [Pharo-project] Odd FFI problms with Mac vms...

2011-04-03 Thread Dale Henrichs
On Apr 3, 2011, at 12:48 PM, Dale Henrichs wrote: On Apr 3, 2011, at 12:36 PM, Dale Henrichs wrote: Norbert, Today I have found that I can get GemTools to work on the mac using Squeak 4.2.4beta1U. Squeak 4.2.5beta1U fails when an FFI call returns an incorrect value (get a Space

Re: [Pharo-project] Announcement real problems - please read and comment.

2011-04-03 Thread Henrik Sperre Johansen
On 03.04.2011 10:35, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: On Apr 2, 2011, at 5:14 PM, Henrik Sperre Johansen wrote: On 02.04.2011 09:16, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: Henrik what is your answer to problem 1 Problem 1 - the second announcement was never sent, because the first one broke the second was

Re: [Pharo-project] Let's get rid of Core vs. Full

2011-04-03 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Apr 3, 2011, at 9:34 PM, Hernán Morales Durand wrote: I really agree with you Marcus. It sounds to me that core/dev is a black and white approach. I know there are no resources, but what do you think of starting with a minimum image and the build over more sophisticated images?

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3949 in pharo: Coverage for Cog

2011-04-03 Thread pharo
Updates: Status: Closed Comment #2 on issue 3949 by stephane...@gmail.com: Coverage for Cog http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3949 Tx lukas in 12131

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3947 in pharo: remove #floodFill:

2011-04-03 Thread pharo
Updates: Status: Closed Comment #1 on issue 3947 by stephane...@gmail.com: remove #floodFill: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3947 in 13131

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3946 in pharo: remove some more uniclasses/player related code

2011-04-03 Thread pharo
Comment #1 on issue 3946 by stephane...@gmail.com: remove some more uniclasses/player related code http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3946 Argh! Terrible design add yours to the list no comment.

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3946 in pharo: remove some more uniclasses/player related code

2011-04-03 Thread pharo
Comment #2 on issue 3946 by stephane...@gmail.com: remove some more uniclasses/player related code http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3946 in 13131

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3946 in pharo: remove some more uniclasses/player related code

2011-04-03 Thread pharo
Updates: Status: closed Comment #3 on issue 3946 by stephane...@gmail.com: remove some more uniclasses/player related code http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3946 (No comment was entered for this change.)

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3945 in pharo: Remove squeakland plugin methods from SystemVersion

2011-04-03 Thread pharo
Updates: Status: Closed Comment #1 on issue 3945 by stephane...@gmail.com: Remove squeakland plugin methods from SystemVersion http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3945 in 13131

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3944 in pharo: ClassHierarchyTest needs to be moved to KernelTests package

2011-04-03 Thread pharo
Updates: Status: Closed Comment #2 on issue 3944 by stephane...@gmail.com: ClassHierarchyTest needs to be moved to KernelTests package http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3944 in 13131

[Pharo-project] [update 1.3] #13131

2011-04-03 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
13131 - - Issue 3949: Coverage for Cog. Thanks Lukas Renggli. - Issue 3947: remove #floodFill:. Thanks Marcus Denker. - Issue 3946: remove some more uniclasses/player related code. Thanks Marcus Denker. - Issue 3945: Remove squeakland plugin methods from SystemVersion. Thanks Marcus

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3877 in pharo: Check reduced complexity for UI themes

2011-04-03 Thread pharo
Comment #2 on issue 3877 by stephane...@gmail.com: Check reduced complexity for UI themes http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3877 first step in that direction done: repackaged theme, rename Glamour ones, removed soft squeak

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3912 in pharo: Circular dependency with GLMOrangeUITheme

2011-04-03 Thread pharo
Updates: Status: Closed Comment #3 on issue 3912 by stephane...@gmail.com: Circular dependency with GLMOrangeUITheme http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3912 So far I move all the themes into Polymorph. Removed SoftSqueak, started to rename Glamour (should rename the

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