[PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] RE: [PHP-DEV] PHP7 releases vs Windows Sources?

Pierre Joye in php.internals (Wed, 17 Jun 2015 06:07:14 +0700): >If we do it, we will also need the ability to do independent releases >in case we need to update one of the dependencies (not code change, only >provide updates for one or the other DLLs in case of critical security >issues). YM, lik

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On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 3:19 AM, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: > Hi! > > > about signing, recently I got a question that somebody couldn't verify > > the tarball signature, because he was trying to verify the extracted > > contents instead of the compressed file. > > he was trying to do that, because

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Hi! > about signing, recently I got a question that somebody couldn't verify > the tarball signature, because he was trying to verify the extracted > contents instead of the compressed file. > he was trying to do that, because that is how the kernel.org > releases are signed: >

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On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 12:17 AM, Johannes Schlüter wrote: > On Mon, 2015-06-15 at 22:45 +0700, Pierre Joye wrote: >> Yep, this could work and were probably proper solution. Except we >> wouldn't add some issue for the non Windows users :) I'm not sure, why >> is it done so ATM, probably it has it

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On Mon, 2015-06-15 at 22:45 +0700, Pierre Joye wrote: > Yep, this could work and were probably proper solution. Except we > wouldn't add some issue for the non Windows users :) I'm not sure, why > is it done so ATM, probably it has its historical reasons. But this > would probably cause us need to

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On Tue, 2015-06-16 at 02:02 +0200, Christoph Becker wrote: > Johannes Schlüter wrote: > > > On Tue, 2015-06-16 at 00:02 +0200, Christoph Becker wrote: > > > >> Why should these downloads be disabled? They contain exactly what could > >> be checked out from the respective tag. > > > > It is not

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On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 12:42 AM, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: > Hi! > > > Then this fix doesn't make any sense -- you are saying if I download > > the .tar.gz and .zip and extract those two, I will have precisely the > > same sources? > > Should be the same sources. We shouldn't distribute anything

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On Jun 16, 2015 1:34 AM, "Hannes Magnusson" . > > > > > > Thats what we want. We want the official release balls to be generated > by an "official server" using the official toolchain. For the tarballs? Yes. Only that it does not happen last time I checked. > There should never be a time when a R

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Johannes Schlüter in php.internals (Tue, 16 Jun 2015 01:48:15 +0200): >On Mon, 2015-06-15 at 23:09 +0200, Jan Ehrhardt wrote: >> Is that a real problem? I always use those sources for my own Windows >> builds, because they are the first publicly available tarballs of a new >> release. > >They are m

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Christoph Becker in php.internals (Tue, 16 Jun 2015 00:02:12 +0200): >Jan Ehrhardt wrote: > >> Johannes Schlüter in php.internals (Mon, 15 Jun 2015 22:28:37 +0200): >>> On Mon, 2015-06-15 at 18:41 +0200, Jan Ehrhardt wrote: >>> On github they are next to each other: https://github.com/php

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Johannes Schlüter wrote: > On Tue, 2015-06-16 at 00:02 +0200, Christoph Becker wrote: > >> Why should these downloads be disabled? They contain exactly what could >> be checked out from the respective tag. > > It is not including the generated parsers. This means the user might use > a differen

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Christoph Becker in php.internals (Tue, 16 Jun 2015 00:02:12 +0200): >Have you already tried to compile an php-7.0.0alpha1.tar.* on Windows. >I suppose that would fail, see . It does not fail with https://github.com/php/php-src/archive/php-7.0.0alpha1.tar.g

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On Mon, 2015-06-15 at 23:09 +0200, Jan Ehrhardt wrote: > Is that a real problem? I always use those sources for my own Windows > builds, because they are the first publicly available tarballs of a new > release. They are made available by github, but no official php.net downloads. Until the relea

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On Tue, 2015-06-16 at 00:02 +0200, Christoph Becker wrote: > Why should these downloads be disabled? They contain exactly what could > be checked out from the respective tag. It is not including the generated parsers. This means the user might use a different version, which might cause a bug whi

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Hi! > gpg-agent forwarding over ssh? Well, if that works then fine. I never tried it (actually didn't use the agent that much at all) but why not. > - Goto https://release.php.net/ > - Login with your master credentials (only allows logins for whitelisted > users). > - White page suggest you ar

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On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 3:46 PM, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: > Hi! > >>> It's a worthy goal IMHO. Currently it all is done manually as you know. >> >> >> What! No, I didn't know. >> I was describing how the process used to be, and I thought it still was. > > I think making auto-release is a nice ide

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Hi! >> It's a worthy goal IMHO. Currently it all is done manually as you know. > > > What! No, I didn't know. > I was describing how the process used to be, and I thought it still was. I think making auto-release is a nice idea, but what about signing? I'm surely not leaving my personal private

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Hi! > Then this fix doesn't make any sense -- you are saying if I download > the .tar.gz and .zip and extract those two, I will have precisely the > same sources? Should be the same sources. We shouldn't distribute anything that isn't under the respective tag as official sources, so I assume they

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Jan Ehrhardt wrote: > Johannes Schlüter in php.internals (Mon, 15 Jun 2015 22:28:37 +0200): >> On Mon, 2015-06-15 at 18:41 +0200, Jan Ehrhardt wrote: >> >>> On github they are next to each other: >>> https://github.com/php/php-src/releases >> >> Those don't include the generated parsers etc. we sh

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Johannes Schlüter wrote: > On Mon, 2015-06-15 at 16:20 +0200, Christoph Becker wrote: > >> There is some difference (timestamps?) which causes building from the >> tarred sources to fail on Windows (see bug #69829). > > "touching" generated files as part of the packaging process is a good > idea

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Johannes Schlüter in php.internals (Mon, 15 Jun 2015 22:28:37 +0200): >On Mon, 2015-06-15 at 18:41 +0200, Jan Ehrhardt wrote: > >> On github they are next to each other: >> https://github.com/php/php-src/releases > >Those don't include the generated parsers etc. we should disable these, >while I co

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> -Original Message- > From: Hannes Magnusson [mailto:hannes.magnus...@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 10:29 PM > To: Anatol Belski > Cc: Johannes Schlüter; Christoph Becker; PHP Development; PHP Webmaster ML > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP7 releases vs Windows Sources? > > On Mon,

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On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 12:51 PM, Anatol Belski wrote: > Hi Hannes, > >> -Original Message- >> From: Hannes Magnusson [mailto:hannes.magnus...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 8:34 PM >> To: Anatol Belski >> Cc: Johannes Schlüter; Christoph Becker; PHP Development; PHP Webmaster M

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On Mon, 2015-06-15 at 18:41 +0200, Jan Ehrhardt wrote: > On github they are next to each other: > https://github.com/php/php-src/releases Those don't include the generated parsers etc. we should disable these, while I couldn't find an option for that on github's site. johannes signature.asc D

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Hi Hannes, > -Original Message- > From: Hannes Magnusson [mailto:hannes.magnus...@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 8:34 PM > To: Anatol Belski > Cc: Johannes Schlüter; Christoph Becker; PHP Development; PHP Webmaster ML > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP7 releases vs Windows Sources? >

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On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 8:38 AM, Anatol Belski wrote: > Hi Johannes, > >> -Original Message- >> From: Johannes Schlüter [mailto:johan...@schlueters.de] >> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 4:52 PM >> To: Christoph Becker >> Cc: Hannes Magnusson; Anatol Belski; PHP Development; PHP Webmaster ML >

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Johannes Schlüter in php.internals (Mon, 15 Jun 2015 16:52:12 +0200): >If there is a need for zip archives I'd put them next to tar.gz etc. and >distribute them via our mirror network. On github they are next to each other: https://github.com/php/php-src/releases Most of the times I use the zips,

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On Jun 15, 2015 10:38 PM, "Anatol Belski" wrote: > > Hi Johannes, > > > -Original Message- > > From: Johannes Schlüter [mailto:johan...@schlueters.de] > > Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 4:52 PM > > To: Christoph Becker > > Cc: Hannes Magnusson; Anatol Belski; PHP Development; PHP Webmaster ML

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Hi Johannes, > -Original Message- > From: Johannes Schlüter [mailto:johan...@schlueters.de] > Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 4:52 PM > To: Christoph Becker > Cc: Hannes Magnusson; Anatol Belski; PHP Development; PHP Webmaster ML > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP7 releases vs Windows Sources? > >

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On Mon, 2015-06-15 at 16:20 +0200, Christoph Becker wrote: > Hannes Magnusson wrote: > > > Then this fix doesn't make any sense -- you are saying if I download > > the .tar.gz and .zip and extract those two, I will have precisely the > > same sources? > > Then this fix should be reverted as there

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I thought the files generated by genfiles for the linux tarballs are different in the windows zips. On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 4:02 PM, Anatol Belski wrote: > Hi Hannes, > > Nope, it's the same source and the same tag is always used. The tag is the > actual reference for any release. But usually pe

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Yep, the generated files in Windows are just the same as in the tag. But what I’m talking about the package format itself. As the difference in the generated files doesn’t mean something changed in the release itself. Regards Anatol From: Ferenc Kovacs [mailto:tyr...@gmail.com] Sent:

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Yeah, it makes sense, just if you look into the bug #69829 . It was extracted from the tarball packaged on Linux, and it went wrong. Also I've just found the same issue reported with drupal - https://groups.drupal.org/node/315878 PaxHeaders and all that. We probably don't want to receive more su

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Hannes Magnusson wrote: > Then this fix doesn't make any sense -- you are saying if I download > the .tar.gz and .zip and extract those two, I will have precisely the > same sources? > Then this fix should be reverted as there is isn't any special Windows > Sources and the official releases should

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Then this fix doesn't make any sense -- you are saying if I download the .tar.gz and .zip and extract those two, I will have precisely the same sources? Then this fix should be reverted as there is isn't any special Windows Sources and the official releases should work just fine. -Hannes On Mon,

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Hi Hannes, Nope, it's the same source and the same tag is always used. The tag is the actual reference for any release. But usually people on Windows don't have things like tar,gz and others. Even if they have - the compatibility might be just bad. So it's zipped. Regards Anatol > -Orig