Re: [PHP-DOC] phpdoc CVS and translations

2001-05-12 Thread Hojtsy Gabor
> manual writers need the infrastructure + english original files, theese > will both stay in the original repository > > but the usual manual writer will only need this and none of the > translations (which right now make up about 75% of the manual > sources. with all translations done it would

Re: [PHP-DOC] phpdoc CVS and translations

2001-05-11 Thread Thomas
Hi Egon, Hartmut has said some things in his last post I'd also say, so I just respond to the "rest":) > Dont take my answer personal, could you break your lines with your emailer > down to a readable size? No prob, have done it here to 80 chars. OK? (hope I don't forget it on the other PCs :)

Re: [PHP-DOC] phpdoc CVS and translations

2001-05-11 Thread Hartmut Holzgraefe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I understand Hartmut very well, but I also understand several points of the > > others. > > I know him very well. [...] to know someone and to understand someone can be two very different things by times :) > > 1.) We should have in mind the average user - also

Re: [PHP-DOC] phpdoc CVS and translations

2001-05-11 Thread eschmid+sic
On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 04:55:45PM +0200, Thomas wrote: > I understand Hartmut very well, but I also understand several points of the > others. I know him very well. I have been working with him together over a year. > I think we all here have at least similar aims (if not the same) concerning

Re: [PHP-DOC] phpdoc CVS and translations

2001-05-11 Thread Thomas
Hello! I understand Hartmut very well, but I also understand several points of the others. I think we all here have at least similar aims (if not the same) concerning PHP and it's Documentation. Since I'm not experienced enough (yet), I don't talk about the "HOW to realize" for now, but I want t

Re: [PHP-DOC] phpdoc CVS and translations

2001-05-11 Thread Hartmut Holzgraefe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > but the average translator might not be up to that level > > But I hope you can learn enough :) it is not the point if somebody is able to, it is about the question whether he'll be willing to ... > > > and reducing the checkout size from ~25MB to ~6MB for the pu

Re: [PHP-DOC] phpdoc CVS and translations

2001-05-11 Thread eschmid+sic
On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 10:15:29AM +0200, friedhelm betz wrote: > Hello Hartmut and all other readers of this thread, > Thursday, May 10, 2001, 5:03:09 PM, you wrote: > > > Andrei Zmievski wrote: > >> [...] > >> Since en/ is your main working directory you can just run cvs upd -d > >> from there

Re: [PHP-DOC] phpdoc CVS and translations

2001-05-11 Thread friedhelm betz
Hello Hartmut and all other readers of this thread, Thursday, May 10, 2001, 5:03:09 PM, you wrote: > Andrei Zmievski wrote: >> [...] >> Since en/ is your main working directory you can just run cvs upd -d >> from there when you want to update or put "upd -d" in your .cvsrc file. > i'm not talk

Re: [PHP-DOC] phpdoc CVS and translations

2001-05-10 Thread Hartmut Holzgraefe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'm against a split into different languages. 23 MB could be handled even > with my old 14.4 kB modem. Look at the size for phpweb. come on, egon! both of us are interested in having a complete version of the manual sources (although for slightly different reasons), bu

Re: [PHP-DOC] phpdoc CVS and translations

2001-05-10 Thread Hartmut Holzgraefe
Andrei Zmievski wrote: > > On Thu, 10 May 2001, Hartmut Holzgraefe wrote: > > do you have a better idea on how to solve the 'missing functions' > > problem in translation? > > Write a little tool in PHP that uses XML parser to gather all documented > functions in en/functions/imap.xml and de/fun

Re: [PHP-DOC] phpdoc CVS and translations

2001-05-10 Thread Andrei Zmievski
Your reply seems targeted at Hartmut instead of me. On Thu, 10 May 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 09:37:14AM -0500, Andrei Zmievski wrote: > > On Thu, 10 May 2001, Hartmut Holzgraefe wrote: > > > i know that this is possible, but it is very unconvenient IMHO > > > > > >

Re: [PHP-DOC] phpdoc CVS and translations

2001-05-10 Thread eschmid+sic
On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 09:37:14AM -0500, Andrei Zmievski wrote: > On Thu, 10 May 2001, Hartmut Holzgraefe wrote: > > i know that this is possible, but it is very unconvenient IMHO > > > > first, "cvs co -l phpdoc" would not be enough, as you'll need the > > dbxml-, images- and perhaps howto-subd

Re: [PHP-DOC] phpdoc CVS and translations

2001-05-10 Thread Andrei Zmievski
On Thu, 10 May 2001, Hartmut Holzgraefe wrote: > do you have a better idea on how to solve the 'missing functions' > problem in translation? Write a little tool in PHP that uses XML parser to gather all documented functions in en/functions/imap.xml and de/functions/imap.xml, compares them, and gi

Re: [PHP-DOC] phpdoc CVS and translations

2001-05-10 Thread Hartmut Holzgraefe
Andrei Zmievski wrote: > [...] > Since en/ is your main working directory you can just run cvs upd -d > from there when you want to update or put "upd -d" in your .cvsrc file. i'm not talking about myself here, i know enough about CVS to do all this by hand but the average translator might n

Re: [PHP-DOC] phpdoc CVS and translations

2001-05-10 Thread Andrei Zmievski
On Thu, 10 May 2001, Hartmut Holzgraefe wrote: > i know that this is possible, but it is very unconvenient IMHO > > first, "cvs co -l phpdoc" would not be enough, as you'll need the > dbxml-, images- and perhaps howto-subdirectories, too So? cvs upd -d howto dbxml should do quite nicely. > and

Re: [PHP-DOC] phpdoc CVS and translations

2001-05-10 Thread Hartmut Holzgraefe
Andrei Zmievski wrote: > Yes, they can just check out a certain subdirectory of phpdoc along with > the top one and keep it that way. > > cvs co -l phpdoc > cvs co phpdoc/en > > Then they only have to use cvs upd without -d option to update only > files existing in their local working copy. i k

Re: [PHP-DOC] phpdoc CVS and translations

2001-05-10 Thread Andrei Zmievski
On Thu, 10 May 2001, Hartmut Holzgraefe wrote: > > with a total of ~23MB (and a potential total of currently 10x4.4MB) > in the translation subdirectories i'd suggest we try to find a way > to have each translation in a seperate CVS module > > the avarage translator will be working on one lang

Re: [PHP-DOC] phpdoc CVS and translations

2001-05-10 Thread Mark Kronsbein
Zitiere Damien Seguy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > any comments or suggestions? > I agree on this. Me too ;) It would be really nice to to this for example: checkout Manual for German translation -> checkout phpdoc_de_trans which will give you the original English Manual plus the German files.

Re: [PHP-DOC] phpdoc CVS and translations

2001-05-10 Thread Damien Seguy
on 10/05/01 12:55, Hartmut Holzgraefe at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > with a total of ~23MB (and a potential total of currently 10x4.4MB) > in the translation subdirectories i'd suggest we try to find a way > to have each translation in a seperate CVS module > > the avarage translator will be work

[PHP-DOC] phpdoc CVS and translations

2001-05-10 Thread Hartmut Holzgraefe
with a total of ~23MB (and a potential total of currently 10x4.4MB) in the translation subdirectories i'd suggest we try to find a way to have each translation in a seperate CVS module the avarage translator will be working on one language only so he should just have to checkout the original m