Re: Which applications does the Plasma team recommend to use with Plasma?

On 12.07.2016 12:59, Ivan Čukić wrote: Music player: VLC (I've taken form the thread that people feel Cantata's benefits over VLC do not outweigh its downsides) The fact that people mentioned that Cantata has downsides is not really a +1 for VLC - it is not like VLC is the only alternative to

Re: Which applications does the Plasma team recommend to use with Plasma?

> What about the file archiver Ark in the Utilities category? It also provides the ability to compress/extract archives from the contextmenu in Dolphin. I would think it has at least as much justification to be on the list as e.g. KCalc. Yes, Ark, absolutely! That must have slipped through as

Re: Which applications does the Plasma team recommend to use with Plasma?

On Monday, July 11, 2016 10:31:14 PM CEST Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > So this is the input I've taken from this thread so far: > > File manager: Dolphin > Music player: VLC (I've taken form the thread that people feel Cantata's > benefits over VLC do not outweigh its downsides) As a matter of fact

Re: Which applications does the Plasma team recommend to use with Plasma?

On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 4:31 PM, Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > So this is the input I've taken from this thread so far: > > File manager: Dolphin > Music player: VLC (I've taken form the thread that people feel Cantata's > benefits over VLC do not outweigh its downsides) > I

Re: Which applications does the Plasma team recommend to use with Plasma?

So this is the input I've taken from this thread so far: File manager: Dolphin Music player: VLC (I've taken form the thread that people feel Cantata's benefits over VLC do not outweigh its downsides) Video player: VLC Document viewer: Okular, if your distribution still ships Qt4 and kdelibs

Re: Which applications does the Plasma team recommend to use with Plasma?

On 08.07.2016 11:16, Luca Beltrame wrote: In data venerdì 8 luglio 2016 10:34:52 CEST, Marco Martin ha scritto: I was referring to cantata as having under the hood problems (using mpd) does clementine use gstreamer? (that would be the most distro-blessed option) IIRC, Clementine has no Qt5

Re: Which applications does the Plasma team recommend to use with Plasma?

In data venerdì 8 luglio 2016 10:34:52 CEST, Marco Martin ha scritto: > I was referring to cantata as having under the hood problems (using mpd) > does clementine use gstreamer? (that would be the most distro-blessed > option) IIRC, Clementine has no Qt5 port officially released. -- Luca

Re: Which applications does the Plasma team recommend to use with Plasma?

On Friday 08 July 2016 09:47:15 Gregor Mi wrote: > On 07.07.2016 22:42, Marco Martin wrote: > > On Thursday 07 July 2016 11:29:15 Ivan Čukić wrote: > >> I also find Cantata a strange choice (even though I do use it :) ). > >> Was Clementine-qt5 considered? > > > > i liked the proposal as i

Re: Which applications does the Plasma team recommend to use with Plasma?

On 07.07.2016 22:42, Marco Martin wrote: > On Thursday 07 July 2016 11:29:15 Ivan Čukić wrote: >> I also find Cantata a strange choice (even though I do use it :) ). >> Was Clementine-qt5 considered? > > i liked the proposal as i consider it as the only qt based music player that > has a kida

Re: Which applications does the Plasma team recommend to use with Plasma?

On Thursday 07 July 2016 11:29:15 Ivan Čukić wrote: > I also find Cantata a strange choice (even though I do use it :) ). > Was Clementine-qt5 considered? i liked the proposal as i consider it as the only qt based music player that has a kida good UI, but yeah, it does have problems underneath

Re: Which applications does the Plasma team recommend to use with Plasma?

On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 5:04 PM, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > On donderdag 7 juli 2016 11:29:15 CEST Ivan Čukić wrote: >> As for the browser, while I do agree with Martin regarding the slow Qt >> security updates, I do not think we should actively discourage their >> use. > > Agree.

Re: Which applications does the Plasma team recommend to use with Plasma?

On donderdag 7 juli 2016 11:29:15 CEST Ivan Čukić wrote: > As for the browser, while I do agree with Martin regarding the slow Qt > security updates, I do not think we should actively discourage their > use. Agree. Let's keep the recommendations positive. -- sebas http://www.kde.org |

Re: Which applications does the Plasma team recommend to use with Plasma?

On 05.07.2016 13:23, Martin Graesslin wrote: The problems as I see it, is that I don't trust Qt to update when there are security issues. That's based on how long we had to wait for Qt 5.6.1. I just tried to figure out which issues in QtWebEngine were fixed in 5.6.1, but that's not possible. The

Re: Which applications does the Plasma team recommend to use with Plasma?

I also find Cantata a strange choice (even though I do use it :) ). Was Clementine-qt5 considered? I do not think VLC is a suitable replacement for a proper music player. (if we took that claim, we could easily say everything here is irrelevant since the web browser is all the user needs...) As

Re: Which applications does the Plasma team recommend to use with Plasma?

On 05.07.2016 10:35, Marco Martin wrote: On Monday 04 July 2016 16:52:09 Jens Reuterberg wrote: IRC is too uncommon to be "ship by default" and argument i heardfor irc is that distributions still nowdays depends on it for semi-official user support, so most distributions wants it anyways

Re: Which applications does the Plasma team recommend to use with Plasma?

On Tuesday, July 5, 2016 3:51:45 PM CEST R.Harish Navnit wrote: > On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 11:36 AM, Martin Graesslin wrote: > > On Monday, July 4, 2016 10:52:12 PM CEST Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > > > On 04.07.2016 18:37, Martin Gräßlin wrote: > > > > Am 2016-07-04 14:43, schrieb

Re: Which applications does the Plasma team recommend to use with Plasma?

> Browser: We do not recommend one at the moment for browser I would turn the recommendation the other way: let's explicitly recommend to not use any of the Qt browsers. >>> >>> I've heard people using e.g. QupZilla as their daily browser and not being >>> unhappy with it.

Re: Which applications does the Plasma team recommend to use with Plasma?

On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 11:36 AM, Martin Graesslin wrote: > > On Monday, July 4, 2016 10:52:12 PM CEST Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > > On 04.07.2016 18:37, Martin Gräßlin wrote: > > > Am 2016-07-04 14:43, schrieb Thomas Pfeiffer: > > >> Hi everyone, > > >> every now and then,

Re: Which applications does the Plasma team recommend to use with Plasma?

On Monday 04 July 2016 18:37:59 Martin Gräßlin wrote: > > File manager: Dolphin > > Music player: Cantata > > I think Cantata is unsuited as it requires an mpd running. Given that > it's out of scope for simple usage. thing is, Cantata is the only Qt based music player i know that has an UI that

Re: Which applications does the Plasma team recommend to use with Plasma?

On Tuesday 05 July 2016 07:56:50 Martin Graesslin wrote: > > That's just negative speech, not something we want to be responsible > > for. I'm sure KDE could have a good web browser. > > KDE might be able to have a good web browser. Currently we don't. If we > explicitly recommend software we

Re: Which applications does the Plasma team recommend to use with Plasma?

On Monday 04 July 2016 16:52:09 Jens Reuterberg wrote: > IRC is too uncommon to be "ship by default" and argument i heardfor irc is that distributions still nowdays depends on it for semi-official user support, so most distributions wants it anyways > - Cantata is not relevant enough ugh, are

Re: Which applications does the Plasma team recommend to use with Plasma?

On Monday, July 4, 2016 10:52:12 PM CEST Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > On 04.07.2016 18:37, Martin Gräßlin wrote: > > Am 2016-07-04 14:43, schrieb Thomas Pfeiffer: > >> Hi everyone, > >> every now and then, distributions approach us asking which > >> applications they should ship by default with

Re: Which applications does the Plasma team recommend to use with Plasma?

On Monday, July 4, 2016 11:06:05 PM CEST Aleix Pol wrote: > On Mon, Jul 4, 2016 at 6:37 PM, Martin Gräßlin wrote: > > Am 2016-07-04 14:43, schrieb Thomas Pfeiffer: > >> Hi everyone, > >> every now and then, distributions approach us asking which > >> applications they should

Re: Which applications does the Plasma team recommend to use with Plasma?

On Mon, Jul 4, 2016 at 6:37 PM, Martin Gräßlin wrote: > Am 2016-07-04 14:43, schrieb Thomas Pfeiffer: >> >> Hi everyone, >> every now and then, distributions approach us asking which >> applications they should ship by default with Plasma, or they complain >> about us not

Re: Which applications does the Plasma team recommend to use with Plasma?

On 04.07.2016 18:37, Martin Gräßlin wrote: Am 2016-07-04 14:43, schrieb Thomas Pfeiffer: Hi everyone, every now and then, distributions approach us asking which applications they should ship by default with Plasma, or they complain about us not providing such information. Although the Plasma

Re: Which applications does the Plasma team recommend to use with Plasma?

Am 2016-07-04 14:43, schrieb Thomas Pfeiffer: Hi everyone, every now and then, distributions approach us asking which applications they should ship by default with Plasma, or they complain about us not providing such information. Although the Plasma team of course does not have to provide such

Re: Which applications does the Plasma team recommend to use with Plasma?

IRC is too uncommon to be "ship by default" - Cantata is not relevant enough and VLC will work as that if needed, or something more simplistic would be good (and Luca's criticism is relevant as the distro maintainers for distros more focused on software freedom would have massive issues). The

Re: Which applications does the Plasma team recommend to use with Plasma?

On 04.07.2016 14:59, Luca Beltrame wrote: In data lunedì 4 luglio 2016 14:54:25 CEST, Luca Beltrame ha scritto: Music player: Cantata And something I forgot: it doesn't integrate too well with the workspace. At least for my cheap keyboard, multimedia keys aren't handled unless the application

Re: Which applications does the Plasma team recommend to use with Plasma?

On 04.07.2016 14:54, Luca Beltrame wrote: In data lunedì 4 luglio 2016 14:43:07 CEST, Thomas Pfeiffer ha scritto: Music player: Cantata Its reliance on MPD makes it problematic for certain distributions, because you can't rip out the bad bits from MPD, IIRC (while you can from VLC and

Re: Which applications does the Plasma team recommend to use with Plasma?

On 04.07.2016 14:48, Marco Martin wrote: On Monday 04 July 2016, Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: Office suite: We do not recommend one at the moment Pim suite: We do not recommend one at the moment. Browser: We do not recommend one at the moment i'm fine with the list (would add gwenview tough) should

Re: Which applications does the Plasma team recommend to use with Plasma?

In data lunedì 4 luglio 2016 14:54:25 CEST, Luca Beltrame ha scritto: > > Music player: Cantata And something I forgot: it doesn't integrate too well with the workspace. At least for my cheap keyboard, multimedia keys aren't handled unless the application has focus, and its tray icon behaves

Re: Which applications does the Plasma team recommend to use with Plasma?

In data lunedì 4 luglio 2016 14:43:07 CEST, Thomas Pfeiffer ha scritto: > Music player: Cantata Its reliance on MPD makes it problematic for certain distributions, because you can't rip out the bad bits from MPD, IIRC (while you can from VLC and ffmpeg). By bad, I mean patent-encumbered.

Re: Which applications does the Plasma team recommend to use with Plasma?

On Monday 04 July 2016, Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > Office suite: We do not recommend one at the moment > Pim suite: We do not recommend one at the moment. > Browser: We do not recommend one at the moment i'm fine with the list (would add gwenview tough) should just be clear we are not actually the

Re: Which applications does the Plasma team recommend to use with Plasma?

On Monday, July 4, 2016 2:43:07 PM CEST Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > every now and then, distributions approach us asking which applications > they should ship by default with Plasma, or they complain about us not > providing such information. > Although the Plasma team of course does not have to