Re: SparkFun Free Day

2010-01-07 Thread Matthew Walker
On Wed, January 6, 2010 8:44 pm, Matthew Walker wrote: On Wed, January 6, 2010 8:24 pm, Matt Nelson wrote: P.S. I think the Arduino has been one of the funnest gifts that I have gotten for Christmas in a long time. Anyone that has not looked into them yet should take a look! I'm going to

Re: SparkFun Free Day

2010-01-07 Thread William Attwood
It appears no one can order. I'm trying from multiple connections, including a data center on the core internet; nadda! I'm going to start broadcasting BGP to take over traffic to the site, then tunnel to the site myself and order all I want. Ha! -Will On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 8:57 AM, Matthew

Re: SparkFun Free Day

2010-01-07 Thread Matthew Walker
On Thu, January 7, 2010 9:15 am, Kenneth Burgener wrote: On 1/7/2010 9:08 AM, Kenneth Burgener wrote: An excellent idea for a publicity stunt. Offer $100,000 free to your site only from the hours of X and Y, raise awareness and interest in your site, and then have your site down between the

Network Control

2010-01-07 Thread Scott Jones
I have a small home network with three young male users, ages 10 to 14, and two adults. It's becoming increasingly necessary for me to implement some type of network access control, based on merit, behavior, homework, etc. I need to be able to prescribe time controls as well as allow and revoke

Re: Network Control

2010-01-07 Thread Jonathan Duncan
On 07 Jan 2010, at 09:24, Scott Jones wrote: I have a small home network with three young male users, ages 10 to 14, and two adults. It's becoming increasingly necessary for me to implement some type of network access control, based on merit, behavior, homework, etc. I need to be able to

Re: SparkFun Free Day

2010-01-07 Thread Jonathan Duncan
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Stuart Jansen sjan...@buscaluz.org wrote: Because I know there's several people on the list who'll be interested: http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/news.php?id=305 Thanks for the tip, Stuart. /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe:

Re: SparkFun Free Day

2010-01-07 Thread Stephen Shaw
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 09:16, Matthew Walker mwal...@kydance.net wrote: On Thu, January 7, 2010 9:15 am, Kenneth Burgener wrote: On 1/7/2010 9:08 AM, Kenneth Burgener wrote: An excellent idea for a publicity stunt.  Offer $100,000 free to your site only from the hours of X and Y, raise

Re: Network Control

2010-01-07 Thread Merrill Oveson
A simple solution is called bob. It plugs into wall then into the TV, or whatever. You set the time of day, time allowed, etc. When the times up the power is cut. (For a computer, plug it into the monitor.) Each child has a password. Parents have the admin password. We use it and works

Re: Network Control

2010-01-07 Thread Stephen Shaw
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 09:29, Jonathan Duncan jonat...@bluesunhosting.com wrote: On 07 Jan 2010, at 09:24, Scott Jones wrote: I have a small home network with three young male users, ages 10 to 14, and two adults. It's becoming increasingly necessary for me to implement some type of

Re: SparkFun Free Day

2010-01-07 Thread Mr Ritter
I got a page to partially load. $546.44 given away so far. Argh. Last one I saw was $75.90. Just saw $3,300 plus $9,800+ /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin. */

Re: SparkFun Free Day

2010-01-07 Thread Matthew Walker
On Thu, January 7, 2010 9:32 am, Stephen Shaw wrote: Just saw $3,300 plus $9,260.67 -- Matthew Walker Kydance Hosting Consulting, Inc. - http://www.kydance.net/ PHP, Perl, and Web Development - Linux Server Administration /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe:

Re: SparkFun Free Day

2010-01-07 Thread Stephen Shaw
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 09:53, Matthew Walker mwal...@kydance.net wrote: On Thu, January 7, 2010 9:32 am, Stephen Shaw wrote: Just saw $3,300 plus $9,260.67 -- The irc channel #sparkfun on freenode is kind of fun to watch. Also not everyday that you see a channel with around 2400 users

Re: Network Control

2010-01-07 Thread Daniel C.
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Merrill Oveson move...@gmail.com wrote: A simple solution is called bob. It plugs into wall then into the TV, or whatever.  You set the time of day, time allowed, etc. When the times up the power is cut.  (For a computer, plug it into the monitor.) I'm sure

Re: Network Control

2010-01-07 Thread Bret Palsson
You would be surprised. -Bret On Jan 7, 2010, at 9:56 AM, Daniel C. wrote: On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Merrill Oveson move...@gmail.com wrote: A simple solution is called bob. It plugs into wall then into the TV, or whatever. You set the time of day, time allowed, etc. When the

Re: Network Control

2010-01-07 Thread Barry Roberts
I'm currently researching this also. I'm using a script on the shared kids desktop computer to log them out after their alloted time is up. It works ok, but I could never get timekpr to work on Fedora, so I'm just using an old bash script. I'm looking into adding some UbuntuCE packages

Re: SparkFun Free Day

2010-01-07 Thread Matthew Walker
On Thu, January 7, 2010 9:53 am, Matthew Walker wrote: On Thu, January 7, 2010 9:32 am, Stephen Shaw wrote: Just saw $3,300 plus $9,260.67 $12,571.08. Site seems to be recovering a little. -- Matthew Walker Kydance Hosting Consulting, Inc. - http://www.kydance.net/ PHP, Perl, and Web

Re: Network Control

2010-01-07 Thread Scott Jones
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Daniel C. dcrooks...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Merrill Oveson move...@gmail.com wrote: A simple solution is called bob. It plugs into wall then into the TV, or whatever. You set the time of day, time allowed, etc. When the times

Re: Network Control

2010-01-07 Thread Daniel C.
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Bret Palsson bre...@gmail.com wrote: You would be surprised. Begging your pardon, sir - are you from Betelgeuse? /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin. */

Re: Network Control

2010-01-07 Thread Bret Palsson
I just might be. I missed the ellipsis you placed at the end of your comment. Sorry about that. :) -Bret On Jan 7, 2010, at 10:03 AM, Daniel C. wrote: On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Bret Palsson bre...@gmail.com wrote: You would be surprised. Begging your pardon, sir - are you from

Re: Network Control

2010-01-07 Thread Stephen Shaw
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 10:00, Scott Jones sanch...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Daniel C. dcrooks...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Merrill Oveson move...@gmail.com wrote: A simple solution is called bob. It plugs into wall then into the TV, or

Re: SparkFun Free Day

2010-01-07 Thread Matthew Walker
On Thu, January 7, 2010 10:00 am, Matthew Walker wrote: On Thu, January 7, 2010 9:53 am, Matthew Walker wrote: On Thu, January 7, 2010 9:32 am, Stephen Shaw wrote: Just saw $3,300 plus $9,260.67 $12,571.08. $17,615.64. Just got to the spot to add the second item to my cart. Should be

Re: SparkFun Free Day

2010-01-07 Thread Stephen Shaw
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 10:00, Matthew Walker mwal...@kydance.net wrote: On Thu, January 7, 2010 9:53 am, Matthew Walker wrote: On Thu, January 7, 2010 9:32 am, Stephen Shaw wrote: Just saw $3,300 plus $9,260.67 $12,571.08. Last update for me was $20,176.54. Cheers, Stephen PS. I'll

Re: SparkFun Free Day

2010-01-07 Thread Matthew Walker
On Thu, January 7, 2010 10:19 am, Stephen Shaw wrote: On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 10:00, Matthew Walker mwal...@kydance.net wrote: On Thu, January 7, 2010 9:53 am, Matthew Walker wrote: On Thu, January 7, 2010 9:32 am, Stephen Shaw wrote: Just saw $3,300 plus $9,260.67 $12,571.08. Last

Re: Network Control

2010-01-07 Thread Stephen Shaw
This reminds me of my brother in law who when he was 15 his parents took away the computer power cable to revoke his access to the computer which was in the basement.  He used the computer happily for a few weeks without his parents knowing, then his dad decided to give his access back and

Re: Network Control

2010-01-07 Thread Lee Higginson
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Scott Jones sanch...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Daniel C. dcrooks...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Merrill Oveson move...@gmail.com wrote: A simple solution is called bob. It plugs into wall then into the TV,

Re: SparkFun Free Day

2010-01-07 Thread Matthew Walker
On Thu, January 7, 2010 10:24 am, Matthew Walker wrote: On Thu, January 7, 2010 10:19 am, Stephen Shaw wrote: On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 10:00, Matthew Walker mwal...@kydance.net wrote: On Thu, January 7, 2010 9:53 am, Matthew Walker wrote: On Thu, January 7, 2010 9:32 am, Stephen Shaw wrote:

Re: SparkFun Free Day

2010-01-07 Thread Kenneth Burgener
On 1/7/2010 10:24 AM, Matthew Walker wrote: $38,788.01. Eek. Going up fast. Starting checkout process now. Order is /just/ over $100. :) Getting the Arduino starter kit, plus the Ethernet Shield. NOI was in the middle of checkout, when I was notified that the $100,000 has been

Re: Network Control

2010-01-07 Thread Brandon Stout
On 01/07/2010 10:26 AM, Lee Higginson wrote: This reminds me of my brother in law who when he was 15 his parents took away the computer power cable to revoke his access to the computer which was in the basement. He used the computer happily for a few weeks without his parents knowing, then

Re: Network Control

2010-01-07 Thread Doran L. Barton
On Thursday 07 January 2010 10:13:19 Stephen Shaw wrote: I've been using it for about 3+ years and it works well. It has all of the content filtering stuff as well. Its also a local company here in orem I believe. I can't remember. It was formerly clarkconnect and centralpointe server.

Re: SparkFun Free Day

2010-01-07 Thread Lance Grover
Did anyone on this list get their order in? I think this may end up being a good promotional deal for them, I have never gone to their site before and I was looking around, last night when I sort of could, and I will probably still order something from them - when I can get the money together.

Re: SparkFun Free Day

2010-01-07 Thread Jonathan Duncan
On 07 Jan 2010, at 11:16, Lance Grover wrote: Did anyone on this list get their order in? I think this may end up being a good promotional deal for them, I have never gone to their site before and I was looking around, last night when I sort of could, and I will probably still order

Re: Network Control

2010-01-07 Thread Merrill Oveson
It's locked inside bob. On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Daniel C. dcrooks...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Merrill Oveson move...@gmail.com wrote: A simple solution is called bob. It plugs into wall then into the TV, or whatever.  You set the time of day, time allowed,

Re: SparkFun Free Day

2010-01-07 Thread Matthew Walker
On Thu, January 7, 2010 11:16 am, Lance Grover wrote: Did anyone on this list get their order in? I think this may end up being a good promotional deal for them, I have never gone to their site before and I was looking around, last night when I sort of could, and I will probably still order

Re: Network Control

2010-01-07 Thread Steven Alligood
And locked on the monitor? And the computer doesn't have any form of tv out? and there aren't any other monitors in the house? I got around much harder impediments than any of this stuff when I was a teenager. The very best thing you can do it put the computer in a public area and

Re: SparkFun Free Day

2010-01-07 Thread Stephen Shaw
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 11:16, Lance Grover lance.gro...@gmail.com wrote: Did anyone on this list get their order in?  I think this may end up being a good promotional deal for them, I have never gone to their site before and I was looking around, last night when I sort of could, and I will

Re: SparkFun Free Day

2010-01-07 Thread Lance Grover
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Matthew Walker mwal...@kydance.net wrote: I didn't get mine in, but I think I'm going to place it anyway. The Arduino is just /cool/, and I've got some cash to spare right now. I agree, I have just got to have one of those! I also want a usb rfid reader.

Re: Network Control

2010-01-07 Thread Grant Shipley
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Scott Jones sanch...@gmail.com wrote: I have a small home network with three young male users, ages 10 to 14, and two adults. It's becoming increasingly necessary for me to implement some type of network access control, based on merit, behavior, homework,

Re: Network Control

2010-01-07 Thread Wade Preston Shearer
On Thursday, January 07, 2010, at 11:29AM, Grant Shipley gship...@gmail.com wrote: Call me old fashion but what about just trusting them to follow the rules? If they break the rules, just take the computer away for a period of time? Please don't take that as me trying to give you advice

Re: Network Control

2010-01-07 Thread Robert Merrill
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Steven Alligood st...@bluehost.com wrote: Never underestimate the ingenuity of nerd children. That statement sounds like a bumper-sticker candidate to me /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't

Re: Network Control

2010-01-07 Thread Robert Merrill
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Wade Preston Shearer wadeshearer.li...@me.com wrote: On Thursday, January 07, 2010, at 11:29AM, Grant Shipley gship...@gmail.com wrote: Call me old fashion but what about just trusting them to follow the rules?  If they break the rules, just take the

Re: Network Control

2010-01-07 Thread Robert Merrill
It'd also be fun to just pop up a window on their box at random times that says: Hey, this is dad. Yes, I am watching you. /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin. */

Re: SparkFun Free Day

2010-01-07 Thread Jonathan Duncan
On 07 Jan 2010, at 11:47, Lance Grover wrote: I didn't get mine in, but I think I'm going to place it anyway. The Arduino is just /cool/, and I've got some cash to spare right now. I agree, I have just got to have one of those! I also want a usb rfid reader. Hmmm, perhaps family

Re: Network Control

2010-01-07 Thread Stuart Jansen
On Thu, 2010-01-07 at 13:14 -0700, Robert Merrill wrote: Afterall, is there ANYTHING in the world more persuasive to a 12 year-old boy than his 10 and 14yr old brothers threatening to punch you in the face if they break the rules again? I think this is the best approach. Teach them important

Re: SparkFun Free Day

2010-01-07 Thread Louis Zirkel
On 1/7/10 1:23 PM, Jonathan Duncan wrote: On 07 Jan 2010, at 11:47, Lance Grover wrote: I didn't get mine in, but I think I'm going to place it anyway. The Arduino is just /cool/, and I've got some cash to spare right now. I agree, I have just got to have one of those! I also want a usb

Re: Network Control

2010-01-07 Thread Derek Davis
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 3:28 PM, Stuart Jansen sjan...@buscaluz.org wrote: On Thu, 2010-01-07 at 13:14 -0700, Robert Merrill wrote: Afterall, is there ANYTHING in the world more persuasive to a 12 year-old boy than his 10 and 14yr old brothers threatening to punch you in the face if they break

Re: Network Control

2010-01-07 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 13:28:19 -0700 Stuart Jansen sjan...@buscaluz.org wrote: On Thu, 2010-01-07 at 13:14 -0700, Robert Merrill wrote: Afterall, is there ANYTHING in the world more persuasive to a 12 year-old boy than his 10 and 14yr old brothers threatening to punch you in the face if they

Re: Network Control

2010-01-07 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 13:05:28 -0700 Robert Merrill robertmerr...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Steven Alligood st...@bluehost.com wrote: Never underestimate the ingenuity of nerd children. That statement sounds like a bumper-sticker candidate to me We have too many of

Re: Network Control

2010-01-07 Thread Chris
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 1:14 PM, Robert Merrill robertmerr...@gmail.comwrote: One way to enforce this may be to simply restrict EVERYONE's home network usage if one person proves to go outside prescribed and pre-agreed boundaries That technique is used to great effect in military

Re: Network Control

2010-01-07 Thread Alex Esplin
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 13:52, Chris plug@2nerds.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 1:14 PM, Robert Merrill robertmerr...@gmail.comwrote: One way to enforce this may be to simply restrict EVERYONE's home network usage if one person proves to go outside prescribed and pre-agreed boundaries

Re: Network Control

2010-01-07 Thread Brandon Stout
On 01/07/2010 01:14 PM, Robert Merrill wrote: EVERYONE's home network usage if one person proves to go outside prescribed and pre-agreed boundaries. For example, if it's discovered through logs or other means that computer usage was too high or through parental-educational

Re: Network Control

2010-01-07 Thread Dallin Jones
On Jan 7, 2010, at 2:22 PM, Brandon Stout wrote: On 01/07/2010 01:14 PM, Robert Merrill wrote: EVERYONE's home network usage if one person proves to go outside prescribed and pre-agreed boundaries. For example, if it's discovered through logs or other means that computer usage was too high

Re: Network Control

2010-01-07 Thread Brandon Stout
On 01/07/2010 02:26 PM, Dallin Jones wrote: Looks like we have finally fulfilled Godwin's Law. Now there's a self-fulfilling law if I ever saw one. As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches. I can say that about anything: As an

Re: Network Control

2010-01-07 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 13:52:44 -0700 Chris plug@2nerds.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 1:14 PM, Robert Merrill robertmerr...@gmail.comwrote: That technique is used to great effect in military boot-camp-type training scenarios. When one grunt screws up, the entire squad/platoon

48-port GigE switch for sale

2010-01-07 Thread dave
Fellow Linux nerds: My company has a new-in-box Netgear 48-port switch for sale. It's GigE on all 48 ports, has fiber uplink ports and some static routing and QoS capabilities. We've been using the same model in our office for the last couple months and it rocks. I think (though I could be

Re: [sllug-members]: 48-port GigE switch for sale

2010-01-07 Thread dave
On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 17:19:10 -0500, dave d...@thesmithfam.org wrote: My company has a new-in-box Netgear 48-port switch for sale. Sorry I forgot to mention, its model number is GS748TR-100NAS with firmware version 3.0.2. --Dave /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe:

New: UTOS “announce” mailing list

2010-01-07 Thread Utah Open Source
The Utah Open Source Foundation is proud to announce a new mailing list, annou...@utos.org. The idea behind this mailing list is to simplify the announcements that UTOS provides to the community. While we do a fair bit on our blog, we'd like to keep the mailngs going, but it has become

Re: Network Control

2010-01-07 Thread Stuart Jansen
On Thu, 2010-01-07 at 14:26 -0700, Dallin Jones wrote: Looks like we have finally fulfilled Godwin's Law. Bzzzt, wrong. Godwin's law was invoked by my mention of the gestapo earlier today. (Note to the pedantic: While Godwin's law does not apply when deliberately triggered, I did not

More switches for sale: from 4 to 16 ports

2010-01-07 Thread dave
I have some more switches for sale. All switches are 10/100 (no GigE). $40 Zonet16-port $10 Netgear 8-port $10 Zonet8-port $10 TrendNet 8-port $5 Linksys 5-port (2 of these) These are all located in Murray. If you want them, you'll have to come get them during business hours

Getting your own posts

2010-01-07 Thread Brandon Stout
I stopped getting my own posts to the list recently. I finally checked my subscriber options, and 'Receive your own posts to the list?' is set to 'Yes'. Is anyone else who wants to see their own posts not getting them? It's really annoying to me because now I have to check the archives every

Re: Getting your own posts

2010-01-07 Thread Scott Jones
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 4:54 PM, Brandon Stout b...@mscis.org wrote: I stopped getting my own posts to the list recently. I finally checked my subscriber options, and 'Receive your own posts to the list?' is set to 'Yes'. Is anyone else who wants to see their own posts not getting them?

Home Internet Filtering for Linux Users WAS Re: Network Control

2010-01-07 Thread Richard Esplin
Though I agree with Grant and Wade in principle, it is important to realize that every person is different. Some people struggle more with unfiltered Internet than others. Giving parents (and individuals) good tools to train their children (and remind themselves), is important in reaching the

Re: Getting your own posts

2010-01-07 Thread Gabriel Gunderson
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 4:54 PM, Brandon Stout b...@mscis.org wrote: I stopped getting my own posts to the list recently.  I finally checked my subscriber options, and 'Receive your own posts to the list?' is set to 'Yes'.  Is anyone else who wants to see their own posts not getting them?  It's

Re: Getting your own posts

2010-01-07 Thread Brandon Stout
On 01/07/2010 04:59 PM, Scott Jones wrote: Brandon: I have posted a few times today and have received my own posts without incident! Scott In that case, I wonder if it's something with using Google Apps for my email hosting? Anyone else using Google Apps and not getting your own posts?

Re: Getting your own posts

2010-01-07 Thread Jason Hall
On Jan 7, 2010, at 6:36 PM, Brandon Stout b...@mscis.org wrote: On 01/07/2010 04:59 PM, Scott Jones wrote: Brandon: I have posted a few times today and have received my own posts without incident! Scott In that case, I wonder if it's something with using Google Apps for my email

Re: Getting your own posts

2010-01-07 Thread Spencer Gibb
I use the Receive acknowledgement mail when you send mail to the list? because I use google apps. I use the web interface so my message stays in the thread. -- Spencer /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin.

Re: Getting your own posts

2010-01-07 Thread Brandon Stout
On 01/07/2010 06:39 PM, Jason Hall wrote: Yes gmail automatically will filter your own messages out Okay, that's really annoying, not to mention stupid. Oh, I guess I mentioned it... I'm even using my own smtp instead of Google's. It's almost annoying enough to stop using Google apps.

Re: Getting your own posts

2010-01-07 Thread Wade Preston Shearer
On 7 Jan 2010, at 19:20, Brandon Stout wrote: Okay, that's really annoying, not to mention stupid. Oh, I guess I mentioned it... I'm even using my own smtp instead of Google's. It's almost annoying enough to stop using Google apps. Almost, but not quite. It's enough for me. I stopped.

Re: Getting your own posts

2010-01-07 Thread Brandon Stout
On 01/07/2010 07:13 PM, Spencer Gibb wrote: I use the Receive acknowledgement mail when you send mail to the list? because I use google apps. I use the web interface so my message stays in the thread. That solves one problem. You know your message got there. But there's still one more.

Re: Getting your own posts

2010-01-07 Thread Spencer Gibb
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 7:23 PM, Brandon Stout b...@mscis.org wrote: I use the Receive acknowledgement mail when you send mail to the list? because I use google apps.  I use the web interface so my message stays in the thread. That solves one problem.  You know your message got there.  But

Re: Getting your own posts

2010-01-07 Thread Spencer Gibb
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 7:13 PM, Spencer Gibb spudg...@gmail.com wrote: I use the Receive acknowledgement mail when you send mail to the list? because I use google apps.  I use the web interface so my message stays in the thread. -- Spencer Like so. /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on

Re: Network Control

2010-01-07 Thread Shane Hathaway
Brandon Stout wrote: In other words, the longer any discussion is, the greater the likelihood that anything will be discussed. Sure, but discussions often converge toward the Nazi topic specifically. That convergence is an interesting phenomenon. As a rule, whenever the Nazi topic comes up

Re: SparkFun Free Day

2010-01-07 Thread Jonathan Duncan
On 07 Jan 2010, at 13:39, Louis Zirkel wrote: On 1/7/10 1:23 PM, Jonathan Duncan wrote: Hmmm, perhaps family bracelets with rfid chips in them... personal announcements when they walk in the front door... lol that would drive my wife insane. And here I was thinking instead of a

Re: Network Control

2010-01-07 Thread Stuart Jansen
On Thu, 2010-01-07 at 20:09 -0700, Shane Hathaway wrote: As a rule, whenever the Nazi topic comes up in an emotional context, it's time to abruptly leave the discussion. There is often no way to exit cleanly. Shut up you pinko nazi anarcho-fascist dog! -- XML is like violence: if it