This idea was fairly popular a few years ago but has mostly been
dropped since other methods that aren't so annoying for non-spammers
do a pretty good job.
But some people are still working on them, e.g.
http://tmda.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/FrontPage
On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Jessie
That's a good way to get a corrupt export unless you shut down the server first.
-Jonathan
On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 5:18 PM, William Attwood wrote:
> You may also try just tarballing the entire data folder for MySQL; may be
> faster if you have that much data to export.
> -Will
>
> On Mon, Dec 29
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 5:50 PM, Kyle Waters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I almost sent this to udbug but felt it was more of a general question.
> I have a database with lots of information in it, and find that I need to
> run a report the is going to take up to several minutes to run. It's ok if
I also have some extra ram and stuff to give away.
2x pc-133 512MB dimm
2x pc2-5300 256MB sodimm
1x unidentified sodimm pulled from a dell that died. I think it's 256
MB, no idea about the speed. The dell was a 800 MHz p3 IIRC.
orinoco gold pcmcia 802.11b card. this card is famous for having
e
On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 9:27 AM, Dave Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jonathan Ellis wrote:
>>
>> You could probably get an adapter to do it that way, but all our
>> monitors work out of the box with a single, dual-link DVI port. Since
>> you can find graphics
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 4:52 PM, Dave Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jonathan Ellis wrote:
>> You can easily fit two 30-inch monitors into $3000. As for specific
>> brands, we have 3 different brands of 30" here (Apple, Dell, and HP)
>> and I can't really
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 4:36 PM, Dave Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My work has afforded me a very nice opportunity to buy a new monitor (or
> monitors). Money is almost no object. If you were in my shoes, what display
> (or displays) would you buy? Bare in mind that I have a new Dell Precisio
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 4:36 PM, Dave Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Anyway, what would *you* buy? I will probably top out at around $3,000 (like
> I said, *almost* no object), but it may be as low as $1500 realistically.
You can easily fit two 30-inch monitors into $3000. As for specific
bra
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 9:06 AM, Hans Fugal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I love my mac and I love the magsafe concept, but power adapters is
> probably the least-reliable thing on a mac (and they're not cheap - $72
> apiece retail). I also had trouble with the power adapter on my iBook,
> first the
On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 7:40 AM, Stuart Jansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On
> the topic of housing, however, there was a strong counter argument: "The
> market has swung too far, even those who don't want them are being
> forced to buy too large homes on too small land."
Except that's not reall
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 9:08 PM, Dave Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> - Consumers want small yards. That's why developers cram lots of houses on
> the land they buy.
They may want big yards, but they're not willing to pay a premium for
them. That's what matters.
-Jonathan
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On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 9:41 PM, Dave Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Andy Bradford wrote:
>>
>> So, are you arguing that developers out here are greedier than those
>> back east and which clearly build things the way their customers demand,
>> while those out here are taking advantage of us
On 4/17/08, Stuart Jansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The
> simple fact is, our current system subsidies other nation's health care.
> How can can other countries get away with price controls on drugs? We
> fund the research with our purchases, while they reap the benefits. It's
> simple paras
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Michael Torrie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How "pythonic do you want your script? Here are a couple of points:
>
> - None of your scripts have any comments at all. Shell scripting in
> particular requires many comments, in my experience.
> - Only ever compil
On 4/9/08, Michael Torrie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Maybe we could have a combined PLUG/ Python users meeting and while
> talking about and demoing development with Google's App Engine, build
> plug.org with it and host it at google! The mailing list can be handled
> by groups. Seems ideal.
On 4/9/08, Bryan Sant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My understanding is that gmail was built with GWT, thus Java.
Wikipedia may or may not be correct about the gmail backend being
Python, but it's definitely not built with GWT. Gmail's js is
hand-rolled.
-Jonathan
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On 4/8/08, Dave Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jason Hall wrote:
>
> > They already use it (python) as their main platform
> >
>
> Define "main". I understand they also make very heavy use of Java.
I have heard Googlers who would not wish to be identified say that
"most" of their properties a
On 4/8/08, Michael Torrie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm merely expressing how interesting it is that python is the choice
> for a system designed to scale up to enormous sizes.
There's nothing magical about Python for scalability. The
architecture (strictly enforced shared nothing) is what i
Hi all,
Last night, Google announced their App Engine
(http://code.google.com/appengine/), which allows creating web
applications that access Google's BigTable technology and invisibly
scales across as many servers as necessary to handle load.
Here is a short summary of why App Engine is exciting
On 3/28/08, Lars Rasmussen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I spend hours each day in a noisy cubicle and am ready to shell out
> $50 - $200 for some comfortable headphones to insulate me from the
> loud folks in the adjacent conference room.
I'm very happy with my AudioTechnica QuietPoint headphone
On 3/26/08, Stuart Jansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, sure, if you enjoy installing and maintaining someone else's
> software or writing yet another method to push bits back and forth from
> a database, why even bother getting any degree?
Or if you enjoy actually working on interesting pr
On 3/26/08, Nathan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am really going to have to disagree with the majority of people that
> assume that a Master's degree is worthless. It isn't. It might be
> harder right out of graduate school, if you didn't work during that
> time. I have worked full-time whil
Hi all,
The Utah Python user group would like to invite all of you to our
February meeting tomorrow (Wednesday).
John Harrison will be presenting how he uses PyGame and PySight with a
projector and a laser pointer to create video games controlled by
shining a laser on the projection surface.
Che
On 2/8/08, Nathan Blackham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The ACLU will fight any fight that is against civil rights. They are blind
> when it comes to other issues.
This used to be true. I can remember the ACLU supporting the right of
people to protest outside abortion clinics, for instance.
But
On 2/4/08, Gabriel Gunderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Anyway, this morning, my glasses broke *again* and I'm faced with
> spending several hundred dollars to get them replaced - a ritual I do
> every other year. I'm don't really like my glasses and I stopped
> wearing contacts almost a decade
On 1/19/08, Alex Esplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Your second argument kind of trumps your first one. Thanks to the
> efforts of fink and/or macports, almost every packaged available for
> linux is available for OSX.
Have you actually used both fink and, say, aptitude recently?
Fink sucks. I
On 1/16/08, Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I need to fix a couple of things with the layout now, and to be
> perfectly frank I don't see why the layout isn't displaying correctly.
Did you try firebug? I've found "inspect element" and checking Style
and Layout tabs for parent and child element
On 1/14/08, Bryan Sant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Careful now. You're surrounded by scripting language enthusiasts. If
> they detect that you're advocating type safety and design-by-contract
> even further than the level provided by Java/C++, then you may get
> lynched.
Fortunately, advocating
On 1/8/08, Bryan Sant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> For as much of a Java bigot as I am, I agree that Java (or any
> high-level language) shouldn't be the core of a curriculum. I started
> in C and wrote a lot of useful software with it. Starting with a
> low-level language will give a person a be
On 1/8/08, Levi Pearson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Basically, google " book" and click some links. If you
> need hardcopies, those that have been published and aren't too long
> out of print should have copies available through online used
> bookstores. Otherwise, see your favorite print/copy s
On 1/7/08, Scott Barlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Jan 7, 2008 11:33 AM, Jonathan Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> > We're deploying on HP-UX on Itanium
>
>
> Is it the specific registers that you're taking advantage of (like
> sec
On 1/7/08, Bryan Sant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Jan 3, 2008 10:02 PM, Jonathan Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Summary: Short-term we need Java skill. Long term we are interested
> > in a diverse skill set. (Even short term, I'm subversively using
>
Summary: Short-term we need Java skill. Long term we are interested
in a diverse skill set. (Even short term, I'm subversively using
Jython. But officially it is a Java project. Shh.)
We pay well -- our corporate parent is based in Chicago and that is
where they calibrate salaries. (And if you
On 1/2/08, Dave Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am looking for a watchdog daemon that monitors individual processes
> (given a pid file for each one), and restarts one if its pid is found to
> not be running. This is different than the typical watchdog, which would
> reboot the entire computer
On 12/21/07, Dr. Scott S. Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There was one group at the back, with at least two guys wearing charcoal
> hats with green "1 0" on the front; another guy was there, with very short
> hair cut, I think a total of 6 or 7 guys at the far back.
Doh!
We were the group far
On 12/20/07, Kurt Griffiths <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> With that in mind, there is no denying that the overall complexity (and,
> therefore, tendency toward code entropy) goes up the bigger you system gets.
> Although languages like Ruby can certainly reduce the amount of lines you
> write, the l
On 12/20/07, Steven Alligood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So what on earth is wrong with sendmail?
http://www.google.com/search?q=sendmail+vulnerabilities
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On 12/19/07, Levi Pearson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Not only did it solve a need at my previous job, the experience helped
> get me my next job as well. Yay for perl! May perl 6 soon bring
> sanity to the poor benighted language. ;)
I followed the first few apocolypses / exegesises. Sanity w
On 12/18/07, Gabriel Gunderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I talked to Tom and it looks like he wasn't able to get any traction on
> this job posting. Are there no Python/Django developers looking for
> work? Is this a matter of a tight job market, an unpopular framework or
> a bad job posting?
On 12/14/07, Charles Curley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://xkcd.com/224/
http://xkcd.com/353/, of course :)
-Jonathan
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On 12/14/07, Bryan Sant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dice.com:
>
> # of perl jobs -
> # of php jobs - 2321
> # of python jobs - 1393
> # of ruby jobs - 669
# of cobol jobs: 1118
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On 12/11/07, Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A few people have mentioned opendns.com as a solution.
> What would be the advantages and disadvantages of going with opendns?
advantage: more reliable than your isp's
disadvantage: their business plan seems weak. they probably won't be
around fore
On 12/6/07, Michael L Torrie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If the script was invoked like this,
>
> foo ../bar
>
> then I need foo to be able to get a path that's the real, reduced path,
> without any dots in it. In other words, `pwd`/../bar is not going to
> work.
>
> Any tips?
Write the script i
On 11/29/07, Shane Hathaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> CVS makes this process hard and error prone. Subversion probably isn't
> as bad as CVS in this regard, but ever since I started using Mercurial,
> I've had no desire to dig deeper into Subversion. Mercurial gets more
> done with fewer comma
On 11/29/07, Dennis Muhlestein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Tried the utahpython.org list? I'd wager most of them are monitoring
> this list too, but you never know.
Many (most?) on the utahpython list are in the salt lake area or even
farther North, so I would guess probably not.
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On 11/20/07, Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So far I'm at a toss up between an iPod touch, or an Asus EeePC ($400
> is about the limit this year)
> But before I ask Mrs Claus to bring me anything, I figured I'ld better
> ask the list in case I'm missing any cool geek toys this year.
>
> So what
On 11/15/07, Hans Fugal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In my case, I'm trying to decide whether to abandon darcs for
> mercurial (hg) or hold out hope that one day darcs will get over the
> exponential merge problem. Right now I sit on the fence. I use hg
> sometimes and darcs other times. I'm quite
On Nov 8, 2007 2:22 PM, Andres Gonzalez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am not familiar with software RAID on linux. Do you mean manually
> using rsync to keep the 2 disks the same? If not, it is a package I
> use?
mdadm
I believe most modern distros will offer to set it up for you if they
detect
On 10/30/07, Michael L Torrie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jonathan Ellis wrote:
> > I'm not really a fan because
>
> Would you mind sharing more specific details on your two points,
> especially #1?
just look through the api reference for things that make you
On 10/30/07, Jordy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As an up-and-coming python hacker, I've been intrigued by what I've read
> about twisted. Does anyone here have experience with it? Can you
> recommend it / advise against it for writing network servers in python?
I'm not really a fan because
1) f
On 10/29/07, Dave Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I like Java's checked exceptions. To me, it's what makes them useful.
> C++ exceptions are basically useless because the compiler does not force
> them to be caught. Why did Sun decide to ditch them in Java 7?
Probably because there usually real
On 10/29/07, Bryan Sant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That's going away in Java 7. No more checked exceptions.
Poor java, always one version away from not sucking.
Maybe if the Python and Ruby and Haskell and Erlang communities
stopped all development for five or six years Java could catch up.
Bu
On 10/26/07, Alex Esplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That's strange, I was trying to help the OP do something a little
> faster in as easy a way as possible. Granted, if I wasn't in the
> middle of a particularly trying semester right now it would be fun to
> hunt around for an efficiency class c
On 10/24/07, Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I fail to see how using "send" vs "sendto" makes things much easier.
Then you don't know enough to know what you don't know. :) If you
want to pursue this futher, you should probably invest in a good book
like the one Levi mentioned.
-Jonathan
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On 9/28/07, Aaron Toponce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There is quite the uproar as of late about whether or not you can strip
> a BSD license from it's software, and relicense it as GPL, or some other
> license.
LWN has the best summary I have read.
http://lwn.net/Articles/247872/ and http://lwn
On 9/28/07, Shane Hathaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Here's a Python solution with much plagiarism from Hans. ;-)
What, no love for doctest? :(
-Jonathan
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On 9/27/07, Nicholas Leippe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you can pick up a Kinesis cheap on ebay or somewhere, go for it. New will
> set you back over $200, though you may be able to get your employer to foot
> the bill if it is health related, or perhaps write it off somehow.
I paid full price
On 9/25/07, Nicholas Leippe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> - Learn regular expressions (not a single class at BYU that I took even
> mentioned them)
For CS majors at BYU, regexps are part of the required CS 252.
(That's what you get for studying CE. :)
-Jonathan
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On 9/25/07, Brandon Beattie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 11:25:17PM -0400, John Anderson wrote:
> > Whats the best (in your humble opinion) computer science school in Utah?
>
> I'm shocked the UofU hasn't been mentioned yet...
Well, geography matters; I would imagine you'd
On 9/24/07, Ryan Simpkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Some of my groups have that option, but this PLUG isn't one of them. Maybe a
> > setting on the Admin side?
>
> Yes there was, but I enabled it before sending my original post. I had the
> option immediately after I enabled it. Is anyone else
On 9/20/07, Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've decided that I really don't want to build a site from scratch,
> but it's been a few years since I looked at any site in a box, or CMS
> solutions.
There's more options than you can shake a stick at, but I believe the
big three are Plone, Drupal,
On 9/20/07, Nicholas Leippe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> AOP is not dead. There are many projects to add AOP to several languages.
> They include at least (from my recollection when I last read up on it) Lisp,
> PHP, boo, Ruby, Python, javascript, and I believe even C++ --although code
> weaving in
On 9/18/07, Jesse Stay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Tomorrow at 12pm we'll be having a geek lunch at Thai spice
> in Draper.
I know most of the Draper restaurants but I don't remember seeing
this. Do you mean the Thai Spice on Ft Union (Midvale)?
-Jonathan
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On 9/14/07, Bryan Sant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I haven't worked with Xen/OpenVZ/KVM much (yet), but VMware is
> implemented with a copy-on-write memory system where two or more
> virtual machines who have mostly the same memory pages, will have that
> common memory mapped to the same physical
On 9/10/07, Derek Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Desired Skills, in no real order:
> - ncurses for our Linux product
!
(But you get good karma for a better / more amusing job ad than most. :)
-Jonathan
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On 9/10/07, Shane Hathaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> OTOH, some topics don't need extensive coverage. At PyCon I've seen a
> lightning talk session where people get to talk for 5 minutes about
> their favorite project. The speakers wait in line and a time keeper
> sits in front with a xylophon
On 9/6/07, Alec Shaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> 2) If I do "svn log" in checkout directory I do not get a list of all
> >> the revisions (only old revisions)
> >>but if I do "snv log file:///repository/project1/branches/xxx" I get
> >> them all. Why the difference?
> >>
> >
> > I don't un
On 9/6/07, Alec Shaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a subversion repository /repository with 2 sub directories for
> different projects
> (/repository/project1 and /repository/project2).
> 1) How can I list the names (paths) of the branches that have been
> created for each of the
> projects?
On 8/29/07, Alex Esplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> I've recently decided to try git as my SCM, but I have an Intel
> Macbook, so there are no pre-built packages or binaries that I can
> find.
fink kinda sucks but it beats building stuff manually. (and it does have git.)
you could
On 8/23/07, Matthew Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Wed, August 22, 2007 10:52 am, Jeremy Hansen wrote:
> > ### THIS IS A RANT. COMMENCE TO IGNORE. ###
> >
> > I have driven in many different parts of the country, as doubtless many of
> > you have and, in my experience, there is no shortag
On 8/22/07, Jon Gale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm no anti-technologist...I've been fully assimilated. But to say that I
> could not live without internet access at my home is plain silly.
I debated whether to append a footnote to my original statement to
emphasize that I was calling internet
On 8/22/07, Jonathan Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Correct me if I am wrong, please. Let me be the devil's advocate for
> a moment here.
>
>
> Since when is having a connection to the Internet a God given right?
> You have no right to connect to the Internet.
I don't think this is a very s
On 8/21/07, Mister E <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ps - recent studies show that cell phone users, while driving, have the
> same reaction time as do legally intoxicated drivers, so this is no lite
> thing for me personally... and I would have probably done differently
> above had it happened recent
On 8/21/07, Clint Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If Comcast can block one particular protocol from being sent across
> their wires, what's to stop them (or another major/minor ISP) from
> doing it to other protocols/traffic. Since when is it illegal to use
> bittorrent? Since when does an IS
On 8/16/07, Andrew Jorgensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Assuming one is qualified for one's position, how can a potential
> raise be a better thing than being paid that much in the first place?
> I get that it feels good to get a big raise, but mathematically it
> doesn't make sense. Is there so
Thanks for an informative presentation, Robert.
-Jonathan
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On 8/6/07, Robert Merrill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> - What do you want to know?
How many clients do you have? What do you specialize in? (For
recruiters, do you specialize in finding certain types of employees?
What makes one recruiter better than another at this? If you wanted
to get back i
On 8/8/07, Shane Hathaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog43.html
>
> Most of the job listings on jobs.joelonsoftware.com include a test
> score. I find that very helpful. Unfortunately, none of the jobs
> listed are in Utah. I hope that changes.
M
On 8/8/07, Robert Merrill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, who wants to recruit for slow-paced jobs? Aren't the fast-paced
> and exciting ones better to recruit on?
True enough, but to stand out you need to explain _what_ makes this
job more compelling/"fast-paced" than others.
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On 7/2/07, Michael L Torrie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Mon, 2007-07-02 at 13:27 -0400, Jonathan Ellis wrote:
> The important thing is the concept of digital *cash* that, like paper
> cash, would be anonymous but secure.
Not going to ever happen, in my opinion. The current syste
On 7/2/07, Michael L Torrie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I know this doesn't really answer your question, though. But I guess
what I mean is maybe the specifics of encrypted digital currency aren't
that important.
The important thing is the concept of digital *cash* that, like paper
cash, would
On 6/27/07, Michael L Torrie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
In my quest to implement a mixed Google Mail/Postfix mail solution for
my domain, I just came across a situation that shows how SPF really
really sucks and is fundamentally broken.
It's well-known that SPF breaks relaying. Did I miss the
On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 18:41:03 - (GMT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> > This Thursday (April 12) I'm presenting an overview of dscm in general
> > and Mercurial in particular. If you've been happy with svn and you've
> > been wondering what the fuss is over this new-fangled distributed stuff,
> > yo
This Thursday (April 12) I'm presenting an overview of dscm in general
and Mercurial in particular. If you've been happy with svn and you've
been wondering what the fuss is over this new-fangled distributed stuff,
you might find this interesting.
Mercurial is part of the 2nd generation of dscm sy
On Mon, 5 Mar 2007 15:51:53 -0500, "Grant Shipley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
> I repeated steps 1-5 and noticed our disk space kept growing 400 meg each
> run.
>
> I found the following options that might help?:
> # - Free Space Map -
>
> #max_fsm_pages = 2 # min max_fsm_rela
rewrite them in [i]python, that is what OLPC is doing :)
or ruby if that's your speed...
seriously, if your brain isn't already twisted by bash, there's no sense
in doing that to yourself now when there are good, less-fragile
alternatives out there.
On Thu, 1 Mar 2007 14:01:23 -0700, "Stephen Sh
On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 16:03:52 -0800, "Jonathan Ellis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 16:47:08 -0700, "Ryan Byrd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> said:
> > Let's say I need to store a petabyte of data. I need fast access
> > (tap
On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 16:47:08 -0700, "Ryan Byrd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
> Let's say I need to store a petabyte of data. I need fast access
> (tape/DVDs
> aren't fast enough) and redundancy like RAID.
>
> How should I do it? Initially the data will be in large (several MB)
> binary
> objects and
On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 15:03:16 -0700, "Michael L Torrie"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Thu, 2007-02-15 at 14:53 -0700, Mike Heath wrote:
> > PHP is "good" for web development the same way that VB is "good" for
> > GUI development. They're the fast food of software development.
>
> That's a bunch o
On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 10:48:55 -0700, "Bryan Sant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
> On 2/14/07, Hans Fugal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I disagree that duck typing (which is a feature of ruby also) is a
> > problem. I find it much more useful than not. I do agree however that it
> > is important to docu
On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 16:37:34 -0700, "Nicholas Leippe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
> Just curious. I've been curious to learn python, (but haven't had the
> time/opportunity yet), but then I ran across boo, which looked extremely
> interesting to me.
>
> Has anyone tried boo?
One of the python UG
On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 16:29:50 -0700, "Michael L Torrie"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Thought I'd interject with a few of my favorite things to hate about
> python.
>
> This often makes working with
> third-party libraries very painful. I had to run several python twisted
> networking apps in a debu
On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 16:29:01 -0700, "Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Since there is already a thread going on best language to learn, I
> figured I'ld stoke the flames a little more and break out some
> marshmallows.
>
> I'm curious in the collective wisdom of the LUG, whats the worst
> languag
On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 14:30:41 -0700, "Bryan Sant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
I've written production code in all three languages you mention (the
Perl was a long time ago, but I have no desire to go back for a
refresher), and I prefer Python; I find it elegant but practical. My
second pick would be
On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 15:03:44 -0700, "Bryan Sant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
> On 2/14/07, Daniel C. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 2/14/07, Bryan Sant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > And then it goes limp.
> >
> > I love how you ask for advice and then spit on the advice people give.
>
> Your c
On Thu, 8 Feb 2007 13:51:25 -0700, "Bryan Sant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
> On 2/8/07, Grant Shipley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > book is don't tie yourself to the most popular technology because that
> > is what always gets outsourced. In other words, don't be a programmer
> > who only knows Ja
On Tue, 6 Feb 2007 20:42:30 -0700 (MST), [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> On Tue, 6 Feb 2007, Jonathan Ellis wrote:> > I'll be presenting on SQLAlchemy
> at the utah python user group on the
> > 9th at 7:30 in American Fork.
>
> utahphython.org says the meeting is on the
I'll be presenting on SQLAlchemy at the utah python user group on the
9th at 7:30 in American Fork.
SQLAlchemy is the object-relational mapper recently adopted by GNU
Mailman among other more Python-specific projects such as TurboGears.
Unlike with simpler rowset mappers, it's pretty difficult to
On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 23:26:16 -0700 (MST), "Ryan Simpkins"
> What if a PLUG volunteer(s) helped companies fill Linux/FOSS jobs?
There are people that do that. They are called recruiters.
-Jonathan
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On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 22:24:34 -0700, "Shane Hathaway"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Brian Beardall wrote:
> > I would get the sata II controller. The advantage of the sata II
> > controller is the addition of NCQ. NCQ is what helps make SCSI drives so
> > appealing and fast. NCQ is not available on mo
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