Sure, some of the radical rhetoric, on both sides, sounds scary, and I
understand people are upset and angry. While I don't think a listserv lends
to people understanding each other on a volatile issue like this, I thought
I'd still share this link from the conservative think tank, the Cato
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 21:41, Bryan O'Neal
bryan.on...@theonealandassociates.com wrote:
Did you not even read you cited references?
Not that I am complaining. I think it was a bold move that paid off
very, very, well. But denying the nature of the conflict is like
saying the Civil War was
Regardless of your political point of view or personal feelings on the
issues boycotts by state are stupid and pointless. These boycotts of
arizona do not affect those who affect the law. The boycotts only hurt
those they are trying to protect. I am a fan of an eye for an eye but
these boycotts
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 06:58, James Finstrom
jfinst...@rhinoequipment.comwrote:
Regardless of your political point of view or personal feelings on the
issues boycotts by state are stupid and pointless. These boycotts of
arizona do not affect those who affect the law. The boycotts only hurt
All rhetoric aside... for anyone actually interested the text of the law
fueling all of this debate you can read it here:
http://www.azleg.gov/alispdfs/council/SB1070-HB2162.PDF
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Sure, some of the radical rhetoric, on both sides, sounds scary, and I
understand people are upset and angry. While I don't think
I agree. The first question one should ask when someone makes a comment is
Have you read the law?. I have and it is very tame.
Keith Smith
--- On Tue, 5/18/10, JD Austin j...@twingeckos.com wrote:
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someone makes a comment is
Have you read the law?. I have and it is very tame.
Keith Smith
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Subject: Re: OT ditching Apple products due to boycotts?
To: Main PLUG
JD - Good I am taking this in a very light hatred manor - I was hoping
it came across that way through email :)
As for the American empire and current illegal activity; it does not
justify the breaking of laws in any way - I was retorting to the
liberal (or conservative not sure which it was)
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 12:04, Bryan O'Neal
bryan.on...@theonealandassociates.com wrote:
The whole point I would like to make is that truth depends greatly on
your point of view. Don't recite rhetoric, think in a logical and
scientific manor, don't cloud the issue, define the problem and
, 5/17/10, Ariel Gold arielqg...@gmail.com* wrote:
From: Ariel Gold arielqg...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: OT ditching Apple products due to boycotts?
To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
Date: Monday, May 17, 2010, 11:40 PM
Sure, some of the radical rhetoric
At 12:47 PM 5/18/2010, you wrote:
So you are seriously telling me
the DOJ stats, cited by the conservative CATO institute, are
misinformation?
I don't know yet...I did copy that info to one of the section leaders in
the county Atty's office, and the immediate response was one of
surprise.and
but crime has not risen!
Keith Smith
--- On Tue, 5/18/10, Ariel Gold arielqg...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Ariel Gold arielqg...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: OT ditching Apple products due to boycotts?
To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
Date
I agree - what I would like to see is not to allow more immigration
but allow more guest workers. No rites, heavily taxed, but documented
and working.
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 12:30 PM, JD Austin j...@twingeckos.com wrote:
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 12:04, Bryan O'Neal
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 13:25, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.com wrote:
I think you missed my point. My Point : Just because there is as much
crime last year as this year does not mean there isn't a problem.
It's a sad truth that few people are ever swayed by logic when the issue is
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From: Bryan O'Neal bryan.on...@theonealandassociates.com
Subject: Re: OT ditching Apple products due to boycotts?
To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
Date: Tuesday, May 18, 2010, 1:44 PM
I agree - what I would like to see is not to allow more immigration
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 13:44, Bryan O'Neal
bryan.on...@theonealandassociates.com wrote:
I agree - what I would like to see is not to allow more immigration
but allow more guest workers. No rites, heavily taxed, but documented
and working.
This covers the above:
While I agree that it is generally preferable to try to keep this forum as
focused as possible on primarily Linux related topics ... on the other
hand as long as the subject line clearly states OT ... then why not just
let it run its course.
Seems to me that the main thing is to just make sure
At 01:02 PM 5/18/2010, you wrote:
At 12:47 PM 5/18/2010, you
wrote:
So you are seriously telling me
the DOJ stats, cited by the conservative CATO institute, are
misinformation?
I don't know yet...I did copy that info to one of the section leaders in
the county Atty's office, and the immediate
Excellent reference!
Keith Smith
--- On Tue, 5/18/10, Lyle Tuttle l.tut...@cox.net wrote:
From: Lyle Tuttle l.tut...@cox.net
Subject: Re: OT ditching Apple products due to boycotts?
To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
Date: Tuesday, May
On Tue, 2010-05-18 at 00:40 +, huerta...@gmail.com wrote:
It should be marked as OT. The thread doesn't really have anything to do with
Linux anymore.
it never did.
It does however illustrate the perceptual problem that people living
elsewhere have with Arizona.
Craig
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Subject: Re: [OT] ditching Apple products due to boycotts?
To: huerta...@gmail.com, Main PLUG discussion list
plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
Date: Monday, May 17, 2010, 5:49 PM
On Tue, 2010-05-18 at 00:40 +, huerta...@gmail.com wrote:
It should be marked as OT. The thread doesn't really
people living elsewhere don't have a perceptual problem with Arizona.
Last time I checked over 65% of the country is in total support of us. You
need to stop watching the idiot box.
-jmz
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 5:49 PM, Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com wrote:
On Tue, 2010-05-18 at
The Tucson Unified School District is teaching La Raza classes and they teach
this is AZLAN and this part of the US was stolen from Mexico. If you do not
believe me Google both.
I saw this type of festering mess in Cochise County in 1981 and 1982 when a
group of radicals moved into Miracle
Well... we did steal it from Mexico. In a style that is reminiscent of the
Romans but is still distinctly American. In truth it is an awesome tail of
we want it, we can make claim for it, we can take it, and we are so cool the
rest of the world will demand you apologize to us for making us take it
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 20:12, Bryan O'Neal
bryan.on...@theonealandassociates.com wrote:
Well... we did steal it from Mexico. In a style that is reminiscent of the
Romans but is still distinctly American. In truth it is an awesome tail of
we want it, we can make claim for it, we can take it,
Did you not even read you cited references? It is more like if I
called your mama fat beat you up and then drove off down the street in
your car after tossing you a few bucks and a pick of your naked sister
out the window onto your limp body and then when the cops showed up
made you say thank you
Flame wars? Really? Did you all read that linux magazine article about how
the editor thinks they are enjoyable reads?
from my DROID
On May 17, 2010 9:41 PM, Bryan Oapos;Neal
bryan.on...@theonealandassociates.com wrote:
Did you not even read you cited references? It is more like if I
called
Indeed I did ;)
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 10:01 PM, Tim Noeding tim.noed...@gmail.com wrote:
Flame wars? Really? Did you all read that linux magazine article about how
the editor thinks they are enjoyable reads?
from my DROID
On May 17, 2010 9:41 PM, Bryan Oapos;Neal
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