bpa wrote:
Since BBC are the hunt for a format which cannot be played except by
their players - I expect we'll need a PlayHDS except AFAICT ffmpeg, vlc
and mplayer cannot play it - perfect for BBC but don't worry I expect
Apple won't allow an Adobe format player on their system
All is not
I've been trying to get Shairport4w running on my HP MediaSmart Windows
Home Server following the tips from Spastic. I was able to get the
WaveInput plugin running with the help of VB-Audio Virtual Cable, but am
having problems getting Shairport4w to work.
When I try to run Shairport4w I get
d6jg wrote:
Am I reading that someone has a fix to restore Listen Again in Triode
iPlayer app ?
If so could the instructions be re-posted (new thread?) as this topic
just grows and grows and I have already tracked back 5 pages without
finding the definitive post on the subject.
Cheers
castalla wrote:
Just want to say thanks to you and others for your dedication and work
in all this.
I concurr. I've just applied the change to the parser and it's working
fine.
Now onto the HLS changes.
DecTenToo's
ChipMonk wrote:
Yes I'd done all that. I've now moved from my original, rather complex
avconv + hlsplay.pl workaround to using your ffmpeg on my main RasPi 2
LMS system and it's all working fine - for live HLS that is. I continue
to get problem: can't open file for: when I try any of the LA
castalla wrote:
Anybody else noticed that the LA lists are not up-to-date - eg. BBC 6
Music shows Today - Monday - etc. while BBC 4 just shows Monday -
Sunday. Similar for other channels.This has been par for the course for a
long while. The programmes will
appear eventually, just rather
TheLastMan wrote:
What is it with these guys, don't they want us to listen to their
programmes?!
Using Triode plugin playing Flash audio stream but without using a web
page which tracks visitors finding the Flash streams - I think Squeezbox
users were practically invisible (esp as a vendor
Am I reading that someone has a fix to restore Listen Again in Triode
iPlayer app ?
If so could the instructions be re-posted (new thread?) as this topic
just grows and grows and I have already tracked back 5 pages without
finding the definitive post on the subject.
Cheers
*Vortexbox LMS 7.8
Thanks. I wasnt' aware of the limitations.
So, what remains for me is to make a request...
I know it's asking a lot, but could you create an ultra stupid version
of the algorithm for me? The one that just throws the artist+track
query at search and grab the first thing it can get? That would
PaulinPosset wrote:
Having made the changes I'm finding that LA programmes will play from
some stations, eg from Radio 1,Radio 1 Xtra, Radio 2 and Radio 4 but not
from others like Radio 3 and Radio 4 Extra.
Is this a general problem or specific to me and is there a cache that
needs
JohnB wrote:
A question about the HLS Listen Again streams (those that can now be
accessed via the hack) - are they 128kbps or 320kbps.
I ask because if the LA HLS streams are only 128 kbps it would be better
to stay (for now) on the rtpm streams (certainly as far as Radio 3 is
expectingtofly wrote:
A couple of things to check :
- You need to restart LMS after making the change
- The plugin caches a station's programme list for a short while, so
if you loaded a station's list before making the change, the chances
are that the old (not working list)
ChipMonk wrote:
Well, for the first time in this sorry business I'm stumped. Tried to
get Listen Again back using expectingtofly's BBCXMLParser.pm
modifications for RTMS then HLS streams but no joy. I'm using the HLS
plugin with avconv and the playhls.pl modification to kill multiple
copies
A question about the HLS Listen Again streams (those that can now be
accessed via the hack) - are they 128kbps or 320kbps.
I ask because if the LA HLS streams are only 128 kbps it would be better
to stay (for now) on the rtpm streams (certainly as far as Radio 3 is
concerned).
As the BBC are
Many thanks to you all, especially castalla, for helping me with this.
Somewhere in the heat and anger and confusion of last night I completely
missed the reference to changes to the iPlayer.pm file. Your file sorted
me out on that - cheers castalla.
If only the BBC had been 1% as helpful and
expectingtofly wrote:
A couple of things to check :
- You need to restart LMS after making the change
- The plugin caches a station's programme list for a short while, so
if you loaded a station's list before making the change, the chances
are that the old (not working list)
expectingtofly wrote:
Yes, in BBCXMLParser.pm ... That gets you the RTMP streams.
I'm amazes me how simple the changes are IF you know what you're doing
(as undoubtedly you do, expectingtofly)! A million thanks.
(I've also made the switch to HLS not RTMP per your other post. Who
would have
ChipMonk wrote:
Many thanks to you all, especially castalla, for helping me with this.
Somewhere in the heat and anger and confusion of last night I completely
missed the reference to changes to the iPlayer.pm file. Your file sorted
me out on that - cheers castalla.
If only the BBC had
castalla wrote:
Allegedly, there are possibly other non-public entities seemingly
involved
It is the BBC's responsibility to honour its charter and agreements to
provide a public service and that must include anything which it chooses
to contract out. I assure you that the BBC's pay
PaulinPosset wrote:
Thanks for checking. I've tried both RTMP and the HLS hack, currently
using the HLS hack, but if you've got both working it must be something
at my end!
I've looked at the URL's and they're a different format to each other.
This one works:
Code:
PasTim wrote:
When switching between HLS and RTMP I had to stop LMS, delete cache.db
(from the .../squeezeboxserver/cache folder) and restart it. The URLs
in the cache need to match the code being run.
Yup, that sorted it. 2 cache.db files in the folder so deleted both,
re-booted for good
A question on playlists in the streaming plugin:
When I add several albums to a playlist in Qobuz Desktop (for Windows),
they get saved as individual albums with the tracks inside / below them.
So when I open a playlist, I first see the albums and when I click on
one of the albums, I see the
castalla wrote:
The moderator on the blog is threatening to close the comments if people
don't stop 'campaigning'.
Do I detect wagons being drawn into a circle?
I read through the most recent comments, and can't see any
'campaigning'. Have I missed something?
ukslim wrote:
Not to defend the BBC to firmly, because this is a debacle, however:
I think it's important that we all keep in mind the conflicting demands
the BBC has. Many of their programs contain licensed content (easiest
example: music) that they're only allowed to broadcast under
SteveSmythe wrote:
Yes, I deleted it. When I restarted the LMS, it didn't get created
again.
Just tried again and, although it cache.db hasn't re-appeared (should I
be worried?), the Radio 4 LA stream is now working. Thanks.
If it works, I wouldn't be worried :) The file will no doubt
PasTim wrote:
This can't be right. The onus has always been on the user not to record
things for public performance, or to keep for an extended period. There
never has been anything the BBC could do to stop people recording
things. My Dad used a reel-to-reel tape recorder. DRM wouldn't
ChipMonk wrote:
Many thanks to you all, especially castalla, for helping me with this.
Somewhere in the heat and anger and confusion of last night I completely
missed the reference to changes to the iPlayer.pm file. Your file sorted
me out on that - cheers castalla.
I missed that too! What
Browsing the settings on my Napster iOS app last week, I noticed that
Napster now has an option to stream at 320kbs.
Could we access this through LMS, or is this the sort of API dialogue
that has long since gone between Logitech and 3rd party providers?
Modwright Transporter Kondo M7 LV
ChipMonk wrote:
It is the BBC's responsibility to honour its charter and agreements to
provide a public service and that must include anything which it chooses
to contract out. I assure you that the BBC's pay structure will fully
incorporate these additional outside responsibilities when it
TheLastMan wrote:
That's odd. Are you using the RTMP streams or the HLS streams? I am
using the RTMP streams and Radio 3 is there in all its 320 kbps glory
and 4 Extra is there too. It might be that the beeb are not offering
all the HLS LA streams yet or, as you suggest, a cache needs
bpa wrote:
All is not lost I can play BBC HDS live streams.
FYI The HDS live streams (non UK at least) include - I'm sure UK user
can guess the UK equivalent and quality.
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hds/nonuk/low/ak/bbc_radio_one.f4m
TheLastMan wrote:
Play them on what hardware or OS? Windows, Linux,
Play in the context of LMS. Yes
BBC already uses them on the Flash based web page Radio playing Live
iOS or Android?
Don't care.
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PasTim wrote:
When switching between HLS and RTMP I had to stop LMS, delete cache.db
(from the .../squeezeboxserver/cache folder) and restart it. The URLs
in the cache need to match the code being run.
I have got the iPlayer, listen live and listen again (LA) working fine
using the
SteveSmythe wrote:
I have got the iPlayer, listen live and listen again (LA) working fine
using the instructions above, but I can't clear the cache.
LA channels I hadn't listened to before editing the BBCXMLParser.pm are
working OK but LA on Radio 4 (which I had been trying to listen to
TheLastMan wrote:
I note you have fixed this, but just for the record, once I had RTMP
working I did not bother with the HLS hack. I was just interested in
getting the LA streams back as they were a couple of days ago. Not
interested in doing more hacking than I need to!
The HLS hack is on
PaulinPosset wrote:
Thanks for checking. I've tried both RTMP and the HLS hack, currently
using the HLS hack, but if you've got both working it must be something
at my end!
I've looked at the URL's and they're a different format to each other.
This one works:
Code:
PaulinPosset wrote:
Yup, that sorted it. 2 cache.db files in the folder so deleted both,
re-booted for good measure and all now working.
Thanks PasTim and expectingtofly.:D
With all this going on it's great to have support from so many people.
The only problem is keeping up with the sheer
PaulinPosset wrote:
Thanks for checking. I've tried both RTMP and the HLS hack, currently
using the HLS hack, but if you've got both working it must be something
at my end! I note you have fixed this, but just for the record, once I had
RTMP
working I did not bother with the HLS hack. I was
The moderator on the blog is threatening to close the comments if people
don't stop 'campaigning'.
Do I detect wagons being drawn into a circle?
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PasTim wrote:
Given that you are able to edit the plugin, can't you also delete the
file called cache.db in the main .../squeezeboxserver/cache directory?
(LMS should be stopped first). If you not able to do so can you explain
why not? Can you not find it, or does something prevent
bpa wrote:
TheLastMan wrote:
Play them on what hardware or OS? Windows, Linux, Play in the context of
LMS. Yes
Thanks for clarifying that.
iOS or Android? Don't care.:)
Matt
http://www.last.fm/user/MJL-UK
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ncameron wrote:
I have LMS on Windows 8.1 with multiple Squeezeboxes and Booms, but no
Touch. I have no such directory structure as you describe, and I have no
*.lua file anywhere on my had drive. Yet I use Triode's PlugIn and my
Listen Again has also broken. Am I missing something obvious?
mikeybs wrote:
I tried using the following in my /etc/modules:
snd_soc_bcm2708
bcm2708_dmaengine
snd_soc_pcm512x
snd_soc_hifiberry_dacplus
still can't get my hifiberry dac+ working
root@max2play:~# aplay -l
aplay: device_list:252: no soundcards found...
ok I got it
add the
expectingtofly wrote:
Sure,
Just do this :
Code:
$entry-{'url'} =~ s/redir/select/ig;
and leave out this bit :
Code:
my $_find = audio-syndication/proto/http;
my $_replace = pc;
$_find
The Ask Jack technology page at The Guardian is still open for comments.
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ncameron wrote:
Am I missing something obvious?
Quite probably. The BBC iPlayer applet runs on a Touch, or Radio, which
you do not seem to have.
There is a separate thread for the LMS BBC iPlayer plugin. I think
that's what you're after.
castalla wrote:
The Ask Jack technology page at The Guardian is still open for comments.
I see you posted a comment; I emailed Jack directly and asked if he'd
been following the comments (with a direct link to yours), and also gave
him my summary of the events on the BBC blog.
PasTim wrote:
This can't be right. The onus has always been on the user not to record
things for public performance, or to keep for an extended period. There
never has been anything the BBC could do to stop people recording
things. My Dad used a reel-to-reel tape recorder. DRM wouldn't
JohnB wrote:
My understanding is that most of the software packages that capture the
audio on a PC do so after the audio has been passed through the PC's
soundcard and it is then re-digitised. One exception is a Total Recorder
which captures the audio in the digital domain.
That may depend
ChipMonk wrote:
attached is what castalla sent me (remove .txt). I didn't even look to
see what was different but when I replaced mine with this in BBCiPlayer
plugin folder it all started to work. Hope it does for you too.
Thanks. It's expectingtofly's hack of the iplayer.pm to get the HLS
hokie- It will be something to do with Apple's Bonjour service. Make
sure that it is running and set to boot in msconfig. If that fails, try
reinstalling the Bonjour service using this link:
http://support.apple.com/kb/DL999
Also, make sure to reboot after installing Bonjour or making it active
schmurtz wrote:
hokie- It will be something to do with Apple's Bonjour service. Make
sure that it is running and set to boot in msconfig. If that fails, try
reinstalling the Bonjour service using this link:
http://support.apple.com/kb/DL999
Also, make sure to reboot after installing
ukslim wrote:
This is called 'the analogue hole'
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analog_hole) in any copy protection
scheme, and it's inevitable. But there are other inevitable holes in
copy-protection because it has to be in some unprotected state at some
point between the network and the
expectingtofly wrote:
Sure,
Just do this :
Code:
$entry-{'url'} =~ s/redir/select/ig;
and leave out this bit :
Code:
my $_find = audio-syndication/proto/http;
my $_replace = pc;
$_find =
majones wrote:
I missed that too! What are the changes required to then iPlayer.pm
file?
attached is what castalla sent me (remove .txt). I didn't even look to
see what was different but when I replaced mine with this in BBCiPlayer
plugin folder it all started to work.
Hope it does for you
Start to comment about it on every other BBC blog post ??
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This can be disruptive to other users
What was more disruptive to users than this stupid 'Audio Factory'???
It's not a shame - it's censorship and a utter disgrace!
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mikeybs wrote:
I am trying to use the hifiberry DAC+ connected to an RPi 2. I can't
get squeezelite to start up using the hifiberry for output. I've tried
doing it manually from the command line using the options I retrieved
from picoreplayer
root@max2play:/opt#
After having some success with SmartMix early on, I didn't use it for
awhile, had a major system meltdown that caused me to reinstall LMS and
rebuild all my core functionality.
I'm running a stable 7.8.1, and have SmartMix v1.6.3 installed. I try
to get a mix started, and can't get past square
Am I missing some important component that I just forgot about from my
first success with this add-in?
Did LMS run a scan after installation of the plugin? What music sources
are you using (local music only, music services?).
--
Michael
___
Giza2020 wrote:
Start to comment about it on every other BBC blog post ??
They'll just mod it as 'off topic' ...
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ftlight wrote:
Nick Reynolds has just closed the BBC blog thread to comments.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/internet/entries/234a65f0-89c1-489c-b6e9-55d2de932e53?filter=none#comments
Now what?
Complain again to the BBC, radio 4 Feedback, emails to Mr Hall et al, MP
committees, and so on, not
What we users need is a 'whistle-blower' or a 'mole' inside the Beeb!
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ChipMonk wrote:
I'm afraid that I had the audacity to suggest (post 317) rather than
contacting our MPs, I suggest we focus on Javid and Vaizey at
Westminster, the BBC Trust and top management and the daily press.
I know I'm a bad fellow but I have spent the best part of a month trying
to
Nick Reynolds has just closed the BBC blog thread to comments.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/internet/entries/234a65f0-89c1-489c-b6e9-55d2de932e53?filter=none#comments
Now what?
ftlight's Profile:
StephenC wrote:
I read through the most recent comments, and can't see any
'campaigning'. Have I missed something?
I'm afraid that I had the audacity to suggest (post 317) rather than
contacting our MPs, I suggest we focus on Javid and Vaizey at
Westminster, the BBC Trust and top management
Notwithstanding some theories expounded her and on the defunct blog, I
still believe this was an almighty cock-up rather than a conspiracy.
They thought they were saving money and asked Internet Radio
manufacturers if moving off WMA to AAC would be a problem. The answers
would have been mostly
ftlight wrote:
Nick Reynolds has just closed the BBC blog thread to comments.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/internet/entries/234a65f0-89c1-489c-b6e9-55d2de932e53?filter=none#comments
Now what?
Utterly disgraceful, considering that the BBC is a public service
broadcaster.
How about we
castalla wrote:
There's a new Twitter feed:
#bbcaudiofail
Don't use twitter myself , so on you go
Me neither.
LMS 7.9 on VortexBox Midi, Xubuntu 14.04, FLACs 16-24 bit,
44.1-192kbps. LMS Squeeze2upnp to MF M1 CLiC (to MF amp ESLs)
Marantz CR603 UPnP renderers. Minimserver
I am trying to use the hifiberry DAC+ connected to an RPi 2. I can't
get squeezelite to start up using the hifiberry for output. I've tried
doing it manually from the command line using the options I retrieved
from picoreplayer
root@max2play:/opt# /opt/squeezelite/squeezelite -n max2play -o
expectingtofly wrote:
Yes, in BBCXMLParser.pm
Remove :
Code:
if ($entry-{'url'} =~
/http:\/\/www\.live\.bbc\.co\.uk\/mediaselector\/4\/mtis\/stream\/(.*)/) {
$entry-{'url'} =
W92Neriah wrote:
Shame on you trying to question the BBC! ;)
I'll repeat post this here, as I expect the BBC moderators will remove
my comment #335 from
www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/internet/entries/234a65f0-89c1-489c-b6e9-55d2de932e53?:
It has already been removed by a moderator.
Peter314 wrote:
Thanks for all your help with this issue. I tried the change listed
above and it restored LA for Radio 3 and Radio 4 (albeit without
pictures :)) but Radio 2 LA gives a Problem: can't open file for...
message. Editing for the HLS stream per your later post didn't change
Peter314 wrote:
Thanks for all your help with this issue. I tried the change listed
above and it restored LA for Radio 3 and Radio 4 (albeit without
pictures :)) but Radio 2 LA gives a Problem: can't open file for...
message. Editing for the HLS stream per your later post didn't change
Owen Smith wrote:
There have been no pictures for several weeks. I'm not sure whether they
went before or after Audio Factory was introduced.
I can live without pictures, this is radio.
I didn't even notice the pictures had gone, so happy was I to get decent
sound again.
LMS 7.9 on
After applying the HLS hack for listen again everything seems to be
working but if I check the file format under more info I see unknown
format. Is this normal?
slartibartfast's Profile:
ftlight wrote:
Nick Reynolds has just closed the BBC blog thread to comments.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/internet/entries/234a65f0-89c1-489c-b6e9-55d2de932e53?filter=none#comments
Now what?
What a disgrace - I hope appeals to various quarters blows this wide
open.
What are they trying
I've emailed Nick Reynolds and Andrew Scott, voicing my continued
concerns, and asking for clarification on the reason for the comments
closure. I can't see any justification under their 'campaigning' rule
(which, as far as I can tell, is only rolled out during elections, so to
use it to silence
Revised version works for listen again from outside UK. Thanks bpa for
your efforts.
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W92Neriah wrote:
Utterly disgraceful, especially considering that the BBC is a public
service broadcaster.
How about we set-up a new thread on this forum for 'campaigning'
discussions e.g. BBC 2015 Streaming Changes - Campaign, to save this
'BBC iPlayer' plug-in thread going off-topic?
A
slartibartfast wrote:
After applying the HLS hack for listen again everything seems to be
working but if I check the file format under more info I see unknown
format. Is this normal?
I think so - it's the same for me. I've gone back to RTMP because the
forward/rewind functionality isn't
There's a new Twitter feed:
#bbcaudiofail
Don't use twitter myself , so on you go
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PasTim wrote:
Apologies if my response was a bit blunt. It wasn't intended to be
critical of the messenger.
I still really don't understand this. There's no real loss of quality
if people make a digital copy, and it is very easy to do using standard
software. It just seems that the BBC
I'm not sure why the transcoding framework would be involved, though.
From the looks of it, seeking has directly been disabled from Qobuz
plugin's ProtocolHandler.pm.
It's not really involved, in that flac can be streamed directly to the
player. But the transcoding helper would still need to
So, why is it, that if I let SmartMix search for tracks, then grab the
track and throw it at the Qobuz Plugin search engine I get useful
results, and when the SmartMix Plugin does it it fails???
Because you know what you are looking for, even if it is not in the
exact fields the software is
Well, for the first time in this sorry business I'm stumped. Tried to
get Listen Again back using expectingtofly's BBCXMLParser.pm
modifications for RTMS then HLS streams but no joy. I'm using the HLS
plugin with avconv and the playhls.pl modification to kill multiple
copies - can that be the
Thanks Michael.
I did try enabling debugging for the Qobuz Plugin, but did not see
anything interesting when I initiated a search but I'll investigate a
little next time I have spare time. I dont' really expect to come up
with anything useful though...
Just two more questions, then I promise
PasTim wrote:
You need to decide whether to use HLS or RTMP for Listen Again, set up
the code appropriately, and stick with the decision for a while. The
cache can get a mix of URLs from the HLS and RTMP version, and so you
should stop LMS, delete .../squeezeboxserver/cache/cache.db, and
ChipMonk wrote:
Well, for the first time in this sorry business I'm stumped. Tried to
get Listen Again back using expectingtofly's BBCXMLParser.pm
modifications for RTMS then HLS streams but no joy. I'm using the HLS
plugin with avconv and the playhls.pl modification to kill multiple
copies
bpa wrote:
Recent changes to BBC Listen Again have broken Triode's BBC Radio
Applet.
Attached below is a replacement file for the Applet which works ok for
me but I'm outside the UK so perhaps UK users can also test and see if
it is a good fix.
1. Download and unzip the file.
2. Make
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