Re: Test Reforms

2004-02-23 Thread Erick Calder
> At some point, the cookbook and possibly the tutorials > should be bundled into CPAN distributions. Perhaps POE::Tutorials > or POE::Examples I'm almost tempted to suggest that should be left to each distro... in RH one often finds packages like -doc containing all that stuff.

Re: Test Reforms

2004-02-23 Thread Erick Calder
> At some point, the cookbook and possibly the tutorials > should be bundled into CPAN distributions. Perhaps POE::Tutorials > or POE::Examples I'm almost tempted to suggest that should be left to each distro... in RH one often finds packages like -doc containing all that stuff.

Re: Test Reforms

2004-02-23 Thread Erick Calder
> At some point, the cookbook and possibly the tutorials > should be bundled into CPAN distributions. Perhaps POE::Tutorials > or POE::Examples I'm almost tempted to suggest that should be left to each distro... in RH one often finds packages like -doc containing all that stuff.

Re: Test Reforms

2004-02-23 Thread Erick Calder
Randal L. Schwartz > Don't remove all examples from the distro. At 30K feet, they were > very helpful for me while I was trying to write code, but couldn't > get > to the website. Or maybe make a simple "one-stop-download" link on > the website. they can at least be packaged separately. in fact

Re: Test Reforms

2004-02-22 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
> "Rocco" == Rocco Caputo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Rocco> Added to the plan: Rocco> At some point, the cookbook and possibly the tutorials should be Rocco> bundled into CPAN distributions. Perhaps POE::Tutorials or Rocco> POE::Examples, so the low-tech and high-altitude crowds can a

Re: Test Reforms

2004-02-22 Thread Rocco Caputo
On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 04:49:53AM -0800, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > > "Rocco" == Rocco Caputo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Rocco> POE still ships with about 200K of samples, and it will continue to > Rocco> until they're replaced by cookbook recipes or tutorials. The plans > Rocco> have

Re: Test Reforms

2004-02-22 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
> "Rocco" == Rocco Caputo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Rocco> POE still ships with about 200K of samples, and it will continue to Rocco> until they're replaced by cookbook recipes or tutorials. The plans Rocco> have been on display for months at Rocco> http://poe.perl.org/?POE_RFCs/Deprecate_S

Re: Test Reforms

2004-02-21 Thread Rocco Caputo
On Sat, Feb 21, 2004 at 01:13:30AM -0500, sungo wrote: > On (02/07 15:53), Rocco Caputo wrote: > > > I think the tests should be generated at "make test" time. We get a > > smaller distribution this way. > > you've never been terribly concerned about a really small distribution > before. we've s

Re: Test Reforms

2004-02-20 Thread sungo
On (02/07 15:53), Rocco Caputo wrote: > I think the tests should be generated at "make test" time. We get a > smaller distribution this way. you've never been terribly concerned about a really small distribution before. we've shipped 10K of examples until really recently. i'd much rather ship 10

Re: Test Reforms

2004-02-18 Thread Rocco Caputo
This thread has stalled. I made more revisions to http://poe.perl.org/?POE_RFCs/Test_Reforms while waiting for feedback. -- Rocco Caputo - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://poe.perl.org/

Re: Test Reforms

2004-02-07 Thread Rocco Caputo
On Fri, Feb 06, 2004 at 11:57:26PM -0500, sungo wrote: > On (02/04 04:14), Rocco Caputo wrote: > > > Thanks for the reply. http://poe.perl.org/?POE_RFCs/Test_Reforms has > > been harshly (and incompletely, but it's like 03:00 here) revised based For perspective: The goal of updating POE's test

Re: Test Reforms

2004-02-06 Thread sungo
On (02/04 04:14), Rocco Caputo wrote: > Thanks for the reply. http://poe.perl.org/?POE_RFCs/Test_Reforms has > been harshly (and incompletely, but it's like 03:00 here) revised based so, we've gone from our current test suite which is not complete but workable to a proposed test suite which invo

Re: Test Reforms

2004-02-04 Thread sungo
On (02/04 04:14), Rocco Caputo wrote: > So in practice the wiki's a flop. i don't think i'd say that. the Cookbook alone makes it a success. but the wiki is not a project management or team collaboration tool. its just a web site. esp since watching the wiki for new content is an active ende

Re: Test Reforms

2004-02-04 Thread Rocco Caputo
On Tue, Feb 03, 2004 at 04:04:10PM -0500, Sean Egan wrote: > > I read the page and I like the idea of a plan for standardized > test. Howver, I am a little concerned with some parts of the plan. > > The "unit tests" sound good but POE is a whole environment. So > having unit tests are a good thin

Re: Test Reforms

2004-02-03 Thread Sean Egan
I read the page and I like the idea of a plan for standardized test. Howver, I am a little concerned with some parts of the plan. The "unit tests" sound good but POE is a whole environment. So having unit tests are a good thing for those parts that can be isolated, but overall will have limited i

Re: Test Reforms

2004-02-03 Thread Sam Vilain
Rocco Caputo wrote: I gave it a shot. Devel::Cover has come a long way since I last looked at it. It only introduces failures in three of the tests. The results are temporarily available at http://nopaste.snit.ch:8001/541 Yep, it sure has. You want to generate the HTML report next, which wil

Re: Test Reforms

2004-02-02 Thread Rocco Caputo
On Tue, Feb 03, 2004 at 10:13:04AM +1300, Sam Vilain wrote: > Rocco Caputo wrote: > > >Tests are a vital part of the POE project. Its current tests succeed at > >covering about 70% of POE's its instrumentable breakpoints, but they do > >so without any coherent plan. > > > Have you tried running t

Re: Test Reforms

2004-02-02 Thread Sam Vilain
Rocco Caputo wrote: Tests are a vital part of the POE project. Its current tests succeed at covering about 70% of POE's its instrumentable breakpoints, but they do so without any coherent plan. Have you tried running the test suite with Devel::Cover ? It replaces the Perl_runops() loop with